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2012-10-19 04:37:41 AM

justtray: I've seen like all of these movies, and pretty much none of them are real plot holes. Glad to see most of them covered here.

Where's PROMETHEUS on this list? Seriously. Let us begin;

1. First scene, what world is the alien on that suicides himself? Earth, or the military planet?
2. Why are the aliens in the holographic sequence running INTO the room that houses all the goo that creates the deadly Aliens?
3. How is it that the guy who uses flying mapping devices gets LOST backtracking through the tunnels when he has an open Mic?
4. Why do the people who get lost decide to hide in the one room that causes them to flee the building earlier?
5. How does the girl who performs C section on herself manage to run around for the rest of the film?
6. Why does no one run to the side of falling objects?

There's more, but I'm tired, and the slideshow is too stupid to earn any further explanation of plot holes.


Charlize Theron can't run in diagonals!!!
 
2012-10-19 04:40:11 AM
Prometheus: they land and they watch a movie from an old dying man explaining the plot of the movie. What was the point of that? A couple hours later, the old man reveals he is actually on the ship. Was that some sort of joke? Why keep it a secret he is on the ship for a less than a day?
 
2012-10-19 04:40:19 AM

Anarchangel: wallywam1: kab: Mugato: As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy.

Well, no, the point of using humans was to keep what the machines perceived as their primary enemy under complete control, AND to acquire heat energy.

Basically.

The heat energy thing was a giant bag of FAIL. They had just explained that the light of the sun had been blocked from earth. So, you've got an incredibly inefficient non-rechargeable battery at best.

I heard somewhere, maybe it was just some rabid Matrix fan, that the original story was for the machines to use human brains for additional CPU capacity/reasoning ability as well as energy. The Matrix was designed as an ever-growing system of interconnected CPUs that all help power the illusion because once the human brain accepted it as reality, it would become part of the overall system itself. Once they could grow humans in pods, the system became self-sustainable until the presence of the anomaly, humans escaping, etc... which makes the Architect's speech in the second film make a bit more sense. It also was supposed to go into way more detail about the difference between the "primary machine" programming that the Agents of the system had and the other programs in the Matrix, and how humans may have subconsciously programmed some of them in the real world from inside their pods.

Warner Bros. thought it was too complicated for moviegoers, who would only give a crap about the special effects anyway.

/or so the story goes...


Too sciencey for the public.
 
2012-10-19 04:44:11 AM

nytmare: I saw the Gremlins when I was about 12 and the whole "5 minutes before midnight = hunky-dory; 5 minutes past midnight = devastation; but for how long past midnight = who knows" thing bugged me to no end. Major incongruity. Full moons make a lot more sense than demon creatures bowing down to local wall clocks.


I always thought about timezones, daylight savings....I'd just feed the farking thing whenever I wanted and kill anything that popped off of him before it hatched.
 
2012-10-19 04:48:36 AM

wallywam1: kab: Mugato: As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy.

Well, no, the point of using humans was to keep what the machines perceived as their primary enemy under complete control, AND to acquire heat energy.

Basically.

The heat energy thing was a giant bag of FAIL. They had just explained that the light of the sun had been blocked from earth. So, you've got an incredibly inefficient non-rechargeable battery at best.


Well you've got nearly every human on earth hooked up, they're being fed by the dead and I'm sure the machines were breeding new humans. I don't know how much human energy per machine the machines needed, but if they adjust the ratio to fit the plot, it makes sense to me.
 
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2012-10-19 05:01:33 AM
Personally I thought Twelve Monkeys was a perfectly plotted self contained time travel story.

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2012-10-19 05:12:43 AM

justtray: I've seen like all of these movies, and pretty much none of them are real plot holes. Glad to see most of them covered here.

Where's PROMETHEUS on this list? Seriously. Let us begin;

1. First scene, what world is the alien on that suicides himself? Earth, or the military planet?
2. Why are the aliens in the holographic sequence running INTO the room that houses all the goo that creates the deadly Aliens?
3. How is it that the guy who uses flying mapping devices gets LOST backtracking through the tunnels when he has an open Mic?
4. Why do the people who get lost decide to hide in the one room that causes them to flee the building earlier?
5. How does the girl who performs C section on herself manage to run around for the rest of the film?
6. Why does no one run to the side of falling objects?

There's more, but I'm tired, and the slideshow is too stupid to earn any further explanation of plot holes.


Tony Scott committed suicide so it feels kind of icky to discuss plot holes in Prometheus, doesn't it? At least, to me.
 
2012-10-19 05:41:53 AM

stoli n coke: One plot hole I never got over was Face/Off.

At the end of the movie, after Travolta killed Nic Cage and got changed back, why did he have his love handles put back in?


Even before that. Why not just kill the bad guy after you remove his face?

If ET could make a bunch of kids on bikes fly, would could he fly his ass back to the ship in the first 10 minutes?
 
2012-10-19 05:42:48 AM

MagSeven: wallywam1: kab: Mugato: As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy.

Well, no, the point of using humans was to keep what the machines perceived as their primary enemy under complete control, AND to acquire heat energy.

Basically.

The heat energy thing was a giant bag of FAIL. They had just explained that the light of the sun had been blocked from earth. So, you've got an incredibly inefficient non-rechargeable battery at best.

Well you've got nearly every human on earth hooked up, they're being fed by the dead and I'm sure the machines were breeding new humans. I don't know how much human energy per machine the machines needed, but if they adjust the ratio to fit the plot, it makes sense to me.


No sunlight means no new source of energy. So that leaves a closed system burning itself out.

Say you kill half the people and feed them to the other half. How long could one live person live off one dead person? Maybe a month or two? Cut the total population in half every two months and there will be no people left after only a few years.
 
2012-10-19 05:47:31 AM
Is ya'll ig'nant? Were your parents cousin kissers? The most obvious plot hole is the FATE OF DANIEL SIMPSON "D-DAY" FARKIN' DAY, that's who. He could be your neighbor, your father, your father's raper, your wife's creepy uncle who looks at you like a rare piece of stinky French cheese at holidays, or just like that guy in the rusted chevy who cut you off yesterday when you obviously had the right-of-way, you pompous farkwit. But, no, we don't know. that's the plot hole that needs filled, you stupid farks,

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2012-10-19 05:49:59 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: Tony Scott committed suicide so it feels kind of icky to discuss plot holes in Prometheus, doesn't it? At least, to me.


Why does the brother of the director committing suicide after the film was released have any bearing on criticizing Prometheus?
 
2012-10-19 05:54:58 AM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: That wasn't a bad movie, you asshole. It wasn't the best but it was all about the characters and they were great.


I hope I am missing sarcasm. I was stoked when Alien: Resurrection was announced. Jeunet is a bad-ass director, and I was eager to see what he would do with the Alien franchise. Had I realized he'd not also written it, I may have been less excited. That thing was a mess, and a complete waste of good talent.
 
2012-10-19 05:58:34 AM

total165: Fury Pilot: moothemagiccow: CPennypacker: If the whole premise of a Looper is that they need to send people back in time to kill them because its so hard to kill people in the future, why do the people who went to all the trouble of setting up this system so they can kill people without getting caught KILL BRUCE WILLIS'S WIFE IN THE FUTURE FOR NO REASON?! The plot device at the core of the entire movie collapses on itself when they use it to set up the plot!

I figured the obvious hole was sending Loopers to be killed by their past selves. Someone else would've shot Willis, end of story.

Wasn't it part of their contracts that they had to close their own loop.

Here's what I didn't get: Why tell the loopers that this is going to happen? Even if for some farked up reason they absolutely must kill their future self or the planet will spin off its axis, just stick a bag over dude's head and blast him to the past but don't strap gold to his back. The looper would kill himself not ever knowing it was him from the future, collect his regular fee of silver bars and away he goes none the wiser.

Even better, let the future baddies kill the guy and send the corpse back to the past to be incinerated. There there's zero chance that a future you gets sent to the past and is allowed to run amok.

I like time travel as a premise but goddamnit, it's tough to make a good movie about it.


All of this, right here. I don't mind a good time-travel yarn, if you're at least not going to me schmucks about it.

Not a movie, but Doctor Who's "Blink" episode? Yeah, that's cool.

This is a crap list.

As for Signs, I call BS on the plot hole as it stands. We humans like the idea of going to other planets where there's NO AIR, and yet, we'd call out this movie for aliens wanting to go to a planet that's mostly water? The only problem I have with it is that the aliens are advanced enough to travel to this planet, but not smart enough to have protective gear on.

And yes, Prometheus hella belongs on this list.
 
2012-10-19 06:01:17 AM

unicron702: You want to know how Bruce Wayne got back to Gotham so fast? He's Bruce Wayne. He finds the nearest Wayne Corporation facility or a sister company and tells the front desk girl he'll be taking the jet back to Gotham.


Yeah, I don't get this as a plot hole. First of all, he's the god damn Batman. Second he's also a rich motherfarker with his name on a multinational corporation lots of global resources (the plot hole I'm more bothered by is that apparently ALL his assets disappeared in the stock transfer. Bullshiat.)
 
2012-10-19 06:01:27 AM

ExperianScaresCthulhu: justtray: I've seen like all of these movies, and pretty much none of them are real plot holes. Glad to see most of them covered here.

Where's PROMETHEUS on this list? Seriously. Let us begin;

1. First scene, what world is the alien on that suicides himself? Earth, or the military planet?
2. Why are the aliens in the holographic sequence running INTO the room that houses all the goo that creates the deadly Aliens?
3. How is it that the guy who uses flying mapping devices gets LOST backtracking through the tunnels when he has an open Mic?
4. Why do the people who get lost decide to hide in the one room that causes them to flee the building earlier?
5. How does the girl who performs C section on herself manage to run around for the rest of the film?
6. Why does no one run to the side of falling objects?

There's more, but I'm tired, and the slideshow is too stupid to earn any further explanation of plot holes.

Tony Scott committed suicide so it feels kind of icky to discuss plot holes in Prometheus, doesn't it? At least, to me.


Wrong Scott brother. Prometheus was directed by Ridley and not Tony.
 
2012-10-19 07:01:02 AM
hm, I don't recall seeing any eggs in Alien 3. I only recall seeing the facehugger walking around and eventually smashing into one of the pods. Alien 3 has quite a bit of holes otherwise.
 
2012-10-19 07:04:59 AM

FeedTheCollapse: Alien 3 has quite a bit of holes otherwise.


Ummm...until Ripley crash landed, it was a total sausagefest...
 
2012-10-19 07:17:59 AM

total165: Even better, let the future baddies kill the guy and send the corpse back to the past to be incinerated. There there's zero chance that a future you gets sent to the past and is allowed to run amok.


Something about the field generated by a living organism. Nothing dead will go. I didn't build the farking thing!
 
2012-10-19 07:31:31 AM

Anarchangel: wallywam1: kab: Mugato: As for The Matrix plot hole, none of it makes sense at all since they could have just used cows if all they wanted was heat energy.

Well, no, the point of using humans was to keep what the machines perceived as their primary enemy under complete control, AND to acquire heat energy.

Basically.

The heat energy thing was a giant bag of FAIL. They had just explained that the light of the sun had been blocked from earth. So, you've got an incredibly inefficient non-rechargeable battery at best.

I heard somewhere, maybe it was just some rabid Matrix fan, that the original story was for the machines to use human brains for additional CPU capacity/reasoning ability as well as energy. The Matrix was designed as an ever-growing system of interconnected CPUs that all help power the illusion because once the human brain accepted it as reality, it would become part of the overall system itself. Once they could grow humans in pods, the system became self-sustainable until the presence of the anomaly, humans escaping, etc... which makes the Architect's speech in the second film make a bit more sense. It also was supposed to go into way more detail about the difference between the "primary machine" programming that the Agents of the system had and the other programs in the Matrix, and how humans may have subconsciously programmed some of them in the real world from inside their pods.

Warner Bros. thought it was too complicated for moviegoers, who would only give a crap about the special effects anyway.

/or so the story goes...


So, let me start by saying that I'm a EE/HWw and since I got my EECS degree at Cal, I was forced to take man CS classes also. The human battery thing is super stupid but I can accept it. For whatever reason that's how they decided to power themselves.

Now, the trilogy gets a bad wrap., and I think it's totally unwarranted. While there was a while bunch of bullshiatty pseudo philosophy wankery, the technical side of things was VERY well thought out. Why there was a Neo, Why Neo had powers inside the Matrix. Who the Architect and the Oracle were and why. How All the Agent Smiths multiplied and why when defeating the most powerful (and lastish) all the others disappeared. Why Neo had to be analyzed and a new Matix singularity created. From a CS standpoint the movie was very tight.

I feel like the major plot hole was what Neo was able to leave the real world and enter the Matrix through inexplicable means. Similarly I was not so jazzed about Neo defeating real word; squiddies. through mind power and even worse was being able to see the machines and their world while blind.
But if I ignore Neo's real world machine interactions, I thought it was an amazing movie.
 
2012-10-19 07:45:16 AM
"Memento"
If he can't store new memories how does he know he has anterograde amnesia?


Did they somehow miss the entire part of the movie where he says he takes pictures and tattoos himself to remind himself of new things he learns?
 
2012-10-19 08:06:20 AM
Given that we don't know why the aliens were harvesting humans in "Signs," I can come up with a good reason for harvesting water-based lifeforms:

Assume that the aliens are in the middle of a war somewhere on their home planet, and that they could bio-mechanically control humans. Having an army of easily killed lifeforms who's entire body was made of acid (to the aliens) would be an awesome weapon.
 
2012-10-19 08:17:52 AM

fusillade762: How did they compensate for the motion of the Earth in that one?


People who think this question is clever don't understand how time travel works (or would work, if it were possible).

To put it crudely, there is no such thing as "space travel" nor "time travel". All travel is "spacetime travel". If time travel to the past exists, it almost certainly involves traveling a path in spacetime that is continuous, not a discontinuous jump from one point in spacetime to another point in spacetime. A "time traveler" is always moving continuously in space too, so the question of the earth (or solar system or galaxy) "moving out from under him" simply doesn't apply.

This is hard to picture because you need 4 dimensions and our brains can only picture 3. Here's a very coarse and flawed analogy that might help. It's especially crude because it's going to have just one space dimension. Suppose you are an ant living on the surface of the earth, let's say at Greenwich, London, right on the Prime Meridian. Your spacetime has only two dimensions, represented by the surface of the earth: east-west represents time and north-south represents space. You can move north-south (space) at will, but not east-west (time). You are carried through "time" at a constant rate by the rotation of the earth: it's noon now, and an hour from now it will be 1pm, and so on. Ants living further east are in your future -- when it's noon for you it's 1pm for an ant in Paris -- and further west are in your past.

One day you decide to visit some ants (or possibly aunts) that live to your north. Eventually you reach a cold, snowy land. Now, you are an inteprid ant so you keep heading north and finally you reach the North Pole. You look around for a bit, but it's cold and featureless so you decide to head south again. However, without realizing it you got turned around in all that snow, and you're now facing about 19 degrees further west. Eventually you reach a city but to your surprise it's not London -- it's Boston, Mass. Even more surprising, when you compare your watch with the local ants you discover that your watch is five hours ahead of theirs! Somehow, while walking only north-south -- remember, you never actually walked east-west, you just stood on the pole and turned around -- and while traveling at a continuous rate into the future as far as you are concerned, and without ever noticing anything anomalous, and without your feet ever leaving the surface of the earth, you have traveled five hours into the past!

And that's what time travel would actually be like, if you can picture that with three space and one time dimensions.
 
2012-10-19 08:21:14 AM

ThatBillmanGuy: Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: "The Dark Knight"
"The Dark Knight Rises" is not the only movie in Christopher Nolan's Batman trilogy that contains major plot holes. In the second film, when the Joker shows up at the fundraiser looking for Harvey Dent, he threatens Rachel, ultimately dropping her out of a window. Batman jumps after her, catching her in time to break her fall. But what happens to all those people still at the fundraiser? Did the Joker and his goons just shrug and leave?


Does it matter to the plot of the movie? Did Rachel need to take a dump after having the crap scared out of her from the whole being-thrown-out-the-window experience? Do we really need to know? At the time of the party, we know that Joker was there to just f*ck with everyone and stir up some high-profile trouble anyway. He accomplished that.

I thought he was there to kill Harvey Dent. Especially after that montage of Commissioner Leob and the Judge lady getting poisoned/blown the fark up. So again, we're back to "Did the Joker and his goons just shrug and leave? Making no further effort to find Harvey Dent? Who they were there to kill to begin with?"


Probably because he thought Batman was Harvey. He mentions it later on in the film.
 
2012-10-19 08:24:16 AM
How does the guy who left the 300 Spartans before their final fight know what happened during said fight?
 
2012-10-19 08:28:27 AM

czetie: fusillade762: How did they compensate for the motion of the Earth in that one?

People who think this question is clever don't understand how time travel works (or would work, if it were possible).

To put it crudely, there is no such thing as "space travel" nor "time travel". All travel is "spacetime travel". If time travel to the past exists, it almost certainly involves traveling a path in spacetime that is continuous, not a discontinuous jump from one point in spacetime to another point in spacetime. A "time traveler" is always moving continuously in space too, so the question of the earth (or solar system or galaxy) "moving out from under him" simply doesn't apply.

This is hard to picture because you need 4 dimensions and our brains can only picture 3. Here's a very coarse and flawed analogy that might help. It's especially crude because it's going to have just one space dimension. Suppose you are an ant living on the surface of the earth, let's say at Greenwich, London, right on the Prime Meridian. Your spacetime has only two dimensions, represented by the surface of the earth: east-west represents time and north-south represents space. You can move north-south (space) at will, but not east-west (time). You are carried through "time" at a constant rate by the rotation of the earth: it's noon now, and an hour from now it will be 1pm, and so on. Ants living further east are in your future -- when it's noon for you it's 1pm for an ant in Paris -- and further west are in your past.

One day you decide to visit some ants (or possibly aunts) that live to your north. Eventually you reach a cold, snowy land. Now, you are an inteprid ant so you keep heading north and finally you reach the North Pole. You look around for a bit, but it's cold and featureless so you decide to head south again. However, without realizing it you got turned around in all that snow, and you're now facing about 19 degrees further west. Eventually you reach a city but to your surprise it's not ...


I know it's hard, but it's time to put down the bong, son.
 
2012-10-19 08:28:42 AM

Hoboclown: "Memento"
If he can't store new memories how does he know he has anterograde amnesia?

Did they somehow miss the entire part of the movie where he says he takes pictures and tattoos himself to remind himself of new things he learns?


Yes. In particular they missed the tattoo that says "Remember Sammy Jankis", as a way of reminding himself that he has the same condition that Sammy had.


Fark Me To Tears: FTFA: "Minority Report"
Like many time travel films, movies surrounding future timelines and predictions tend to be ripe with plot holes. "Minority Report" is no different, with the precogs predicting a future -- or at least future intentions -- that never comes to pass.

The author is screwed in the head on this one. The whole POINT of the movie was that the precogs weren't 100% perfect, and because of that the whole pre-crime concept was flawed, prone to abuse by people in power, and doomed to fail.


Yes. And the whole point of the source short story by Philip K. Dick was the inherent paradox of a prediction about the future that could change the future -- and not the tedious, well-worn technical paradox but the much more interesting moral paradox of punishing somebody for a crime not committed.
 
2012-10-19 08:31:37 AM

1. Put snakes on plane: I know it's hard, but it's time to put down the bong, son.


I have no idea what you think that means, but I'm perfectly lucid, and so was my post.

By the way, I'm willing to bet that I have at least a decade on you, maybe two, "son".
 
2012-10-19 08:47:24 AM
I guess the author never saw Gremlins 2 where they tear apart the whole time zone issue.
 
2012-10-19 08:47:31 AM
This list is just awful. I really just wanted to say that while reading it.

And no, you can't defend Prometheus by saying that everything can be explained because of idiotic mistakes by the crew. If that's the case then you have no compelling characters which makes the movie bad anyways.
 
2012-10-19 08:48:24 AM
Can't people just enjoy a movie any more?
 
2012-10-19 08:51:20 AM

snowshovel: Given that we don't know why the aliens were harvesting humans in "Signs," I can come up with a good reason for harvesting water-based lifeforms:

Assume that the aliens are in the middle of a war somewhere on their home planet, and that they could bio-mechanically control humans. Having an army of easily killed lifeforms who's entire body was made of acid (to the aliens) would be an awesome weapon.


*Throws away script to Alien 5*
 
2012-10-19 08:53:00 AM
Also...
Thats the one you pick from the dark knight. RLY? Not the sonar cell phone that was suddenly in everybody's phone and could communicate in real time to a master unit which then instantaneously went to goggles? Which Batman preferred to wear for absolutely no reason during the fight with the Joker, in which Batman is supposed to have trained fighting badies exclusively in darkness?

I love that movie, but I cringe every time that scene starts.
 
2012-10-19 08:56:52 AM

Summoner101: cman: #5 is full of shiat. There are some time traveling stories that have 0 plot holes.

Bender's Big Score has no plot-holes whatsoever. In fact, the story writers went WAY out of their way to ensure that there were no plot holes. That is the most insane time-traveling story ever told.

They also obviously haven't seen Primer.

It may have a plot hole somewhere, but that'd require you understanding what the hell is going on to find it or even care.


They never saw Timecrimes either.
 
2012-10-19 08:58:35 AM
Anyone that worries about plot holes in a fantasy-based film is a pretentious douche.
 
2012-10-19 09:12:46 AM
In Time Bandits, where did Sean Connery come from, and how does an ancient middle eastern king become a fireman!!!
 
2012-10-19 09:14:01 AM

thecpt: This list is just awful. I really just wanted to say that while reading it.

And no, you can't defend Prometheus by saying that everything can be explained because of idiotic mistakes by the crew. If that's the case then you have no compelling characters which makes the movie bad anyways.


Vickers picked the crew members and she wanted the mission to fail. She wanted her father to die so she could finally take over Weyland Industries.
 
2012-10-19 09:22:28 AM
Some people clearly didn't listen when Morpheus was explaining shiat. With all the human battery and recycling crap someone that has heard of conservation of energy and thermodynamics also added to the script "coupled with a form of fusion"

Transcript

The human generates more bio-electricity than 120-volt

battery and over 25,000 BTVs of body heat. Combined with

a form of fusion, the machines have found all the energy

they would ever need. There are fields...endless fields,

were human beings are no longer born. We are grown. For

longest time, I wouldn't belive it...and then I saw the

fields with my own eyes. Watch them liquefy the dead, so

they could be fed intravenously to the living. And standing

there, facing the pure horrifying precision, I came to

realize the obviousness of the truth. What is The Matrix?

Control. The Matrix is a computer generated dream world,

built to keep us under control in order to change a human

being into this.
 
2012-10-19 09:34:19 AM

Hoboclown: "Memento"
If he can't store new memories how does he know he has anterograde amnesia?

Did they somehow miss the entire part of the movie where he says he takes pictures and tattoos himself to remind himself of new things he learns?


Not to mention a big part of the twist at the end is that his disorder is ultimately psychological and not physical in nature. He had memories from after the accident: they are incredibly distorted and he falsely believe they were from before the accident, but his brain is capable of retaining knowledge of what happened after the accident so long as it does not disturb his greater assumptions of what happened to him on the night of the accident.

I think I managed to explain that without spoiling the movie.
 
2012-10-19 09:35:21 AM

Riotboy: Vickers picked the crew members and she wanted the mission to fail. She wanted her father to die so she could finally take over Weyland Industries.


No. That doesn't make sense. She could've killed them during transit somehow and nobody would've been the wiser because no one knew he was there (don't give me BS that David could have stopped her, she was supposed be good enough to figure something out). Plus Weyland picked the two main characters, and that guy was an impatient loose canon. Aka idiot.
 
2012-10-19 09:41:16 AM
I followed the link in the description and found the theory posited there to be one of the best I've heard.

Copypasta'd:
When I first saw this film, I didn't realize that it wasn't about aliens at all. It's about the return of demons. Notice it's all about a priest's resurgence of belief, and a preordained moment of redemption-if-dared-and-attempted. There is no alien technology or weaponry or clothing of any kind, only a clawed, naked beast creature and lights in the sky.

Furthermore: The running joke throughout the movie is that people see these "invaders" in a way that's related to their particular frame of mind: The cop sees them as prankster kids, the bookstore owners see them as "a hoax to sell commercials," the Army recruitment officer sees them as invading military, the kids see them as UFOs... and the Priest sees them as test of faith. This understanding of the film removed my hatred of the "You've got to be kidding me; they were killed by WATER!" concept. In fact, the priest's daughter had been referred to as "holy" (as revealed during Mel's key monologue)-recognized by all who saw her at her birth as "an Angel;" and her quite particular relationship to water is shown to be very special and spiritual: In other words, she has placed vials of what are, essentially, HOLY WATER all around the house. (And the creature's reaction when coming in contact with this blessed liquid is EXACTLY like monsters/vampires being splashed by spiritual "acid.")

This view of the movie also explains the creature's actions: They act like superior tricksters, are not able to break in through closed doors, can be trapped behind simple wooden latches -all mythological elements of demons and vampire-like creatures of lore. It also explains the news over the radio at the end of the movie that an ancient method of killing the creatures has been found "in three small cities in the Middle East" - one would suspect the religious "hubs" of the three main Abrahamic traditions, each discovering the "mystic methods" of protection-and-dispatch that I've noted earlier.

Note also: All the Christian iconography throughout the movie, the references to "Signs and Wonders" (the true meaning of the title), the crucifix shapes hinted-at everywhere (check out the overhead shot, looking down on the street driving into town) and the ultimate fact that the entire movie is built around a Priest rediscovering he is not abandoned to a random, Godless, scientifically-oriented Universe but, rather, is part of a predicted and dreamed-of plan.

Now -these creatures may for all intents and purposes be some sort of extraterrestrial or inter-dimensional "aliens" -but the point of the movie seems to be that they are, in the ACTUALITY OF THE FILM WORLD, the dark stuff from which all the character's tales of devils and night-creatures were born.


Eh, shaddup.

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2012-10-19 09:41:28 AM

Faddy: Some people clearly didn't listen when Morpheus was explaining shiat. With all the human battery and recycling crap someone that has heard of conservation of energy and thermodynamics also added to the script "coupled with a form of fusion"

Transcript

The human generates more bio-electricity than 120-volt battery and over 25,000 BTVs of body heat. Combined with a form of fusion, the machines have found all the energy they would ever need. There are fields...endless fields, were human beings are no longer born. We are grown. For longest time, I wouldn't belive it...and then I saw the fields with my own eyes. Watch them liquefy the dead, so
they could be fed intravenously to the living. And standing there, facing the pure horrifying precision, I came to realize the obviousness of the truth. What is The Matrix? Control. The Matrix is a computer generated dream world, built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into this.


It's still bullcrap. They should have kept the original idea.
 
2012-10-19 09:42:03 AM
The virus was transmitted to the mother ship from an antenna that had been mounted on the captured spaceship.


The real plot hole is that Jeff Goldboom could act.

/faster faster must go faster
 
2012-10-19 09:51:24 AM

SpanishNinja: fusillade762: Aliens

I'll believe in three "Alien" movies, but not four


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2012-10-19 09:55:20 AM
Ok, Aliens (Alien 2 if you will) when Ripley is fighting the Queen and there is a 20' X 20' hole in the floor and the vacuum of space pulls on Ripley and the Alien but she is able to eventually climb up the ladder and close the airlock.

In Alien Resurrection (Alien 4 if you will) there is a small flick of Ripley's now somewhat Alien blood on the window of the ship where the acid in her blood opens up a pinhole that sucks the cute Alien Babby out of the window like Jello through a straw and all of this while already somewhat into the atmosphere (note the clouds out of the window) vice the full vacuum of space in Aliens.

That kind of physics bullshiat like sound in space just crack me up.
 
2012-10-19 10:02:10 AM

rocky_howard: This. I don't know why people get so focused on that. Also, Batman Begins showed him traveling through the world with zero money. He's a resourceful man.


No, sorry not this.

He was in the middle of no where. He would have spent days using local transportation just to get to city large enough to have one.

Plus even on a nice corporate jet the flight time doesn't change.

It was a huge plot hole.
 
2012-10-19 10:02:34 AM
Is the Bane one "how did he get batman to the prison hole so fast really a plot hole? I mean by the end of the movie you know who is backing bane, which means the dude has access to tons of money and resources. You can fly to most places in the world in around a day, so do we really need a scene of bane and unconscious batman sitting on a plane waiting to get to wherever that prison was for the movie to work? If they ended up on a different planet that would be a plot hole, but air travel is not what I would call a plot hole.
 
2012-10-19 10:04:03 AM

justtray: I've seen like all of these movies, and pretty much none of them are real plot holes. Glad to see most of them covered here.

Where's PROMETHEUS on this list? Seriously. Let us begin;

1. First scene, what world is the alien on that suicides himself? Earth, or the military planet?
2. Why are the aliens in the holographic sequence running INTO the room that houses all the goo that creates the deadly Aliens?
3. How is it that the guy who uses flying mapping devices gets LOST backtracking through the tunnels when he has an open Mic?
4. Why do the people who get lost decide to hide in the one room that causes them to flee the building earlier?
5. How does the girl who performs C section on herself manage to run around for the rest of the film?
6. Why does no one run to the side of falling objects?

There's more, but I'm tired, and the slideshow is too stupid to earn any further explanation of plot holes.


I actually like Prometheus. re: lost map guy and the idiotic biologist pal -- when they first discover the body of the headless Engineer/Big Alien Guy and the geologist 'bad ass' freaks out and wants to go back to the ship. Why in the ever loving hell would the biologist freak out and go back with him?? No matter what sub-field of biology you were in, wouldn't finding a dead, giant alien be the absolute motherlode of a discovery??

#6. A lot of films/shows get this so wrong. A tower/slender-ish object is slowly falling towards you. Why run in its shadow? Turn 90 degrees and run like hell.

They sure picked some pussies for such a mission. "Does the unexplained frighten you?" If you answer 'yes' on the questionnaire, you ain't going on the mission. Lots and lots of holes/bad acting in the movie. But I thought the underlying story was fascinating.
 
2012-10-19 10:06:27 AM

nytmare: I saw the Gremlins when I was about 12 and the whole "5 minutes before midnight = hunky-dory; 5 minutes past midnight = devastation; but for how long past midnight = who knows"


That always bugged me,too. I always wondered how you'd know when it's safe to give them breakfast.
 
2012-10-19 10:07:54 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: rocky_howard: This. I don't know why people get so focused on that. Also, Batman Begins showed him traveling through the world with zero money. He's a resourceful man.

No, sorry not this.

He was in the middle of no where. He would have spent days using local transportation just to get to city large enough to have one.

Plus even on a nice corporate jet the flight time doesn't change.

It was a huge plot hole.


Actually I think if you pay attention to the movie (and the timer on the bomb) it is five months from when the bomb was started to when it was to go off. Bruce arrived in Gotham like a day or two before the timer was up. So even if he spent 3 months in that prison healing and trying to get out, he would still have two months to travel from wherever the prison was back to gotham. Which shouldn't be that difficult considering this is Batman we are talking about. Plus for all we know the prison could be in central america somewhere, which wouldn't be that far from the Continental US and Gotham.
 
2012-10-19 10:08:32 AM

Faddy: Some people clearly didn't listen when Morpheus was explaining shiat. With all the human battery and recycling crap someone that has heard of conservation of energy and thermodynamics also added to the script "coupled with a form of fusion"


If they have "a form of fusion", they don't need the humans.

Regardless of how you spin it, adding humans into the energy production chain can only be a net loss. It's exactly analogous to the fact that in energy terms it's a lot less efficient (but more tasty) to feed grain to cattle to make steaks to feed to people than if people just ate the grain in the first place. The only conceivable way it could make sense is if the "form of fusion" they have is so peculiar that only a human body or brain can turn it into useful energy, so the losses involved in growing humans are unavoidable.

Frankly the Matrix would have been a much scarier prospect if they had discarded the whole "living batteries" thing and admitted that the machines were running the Matrix purely for their own perverse pleasure. Since they have "a form of fusion" they have more power than they know what to do with, so they entertain themselves with a human-powered MMORPG. What they want from humans is something only they can provide: imagination.

/No, I didn't see any of the sequels, so go easy on me if that was actually the plot in the subsequent movies.
 
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