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(ESPN)   With Ray Lewis gone, Terrell Suggs is going to take a stab at picking up the slack on the Ravens defense this Sunday   (espn.go.com) divider line 38
    More: Scary, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Ngata, Ed Reed, understatement, Achilles tendon, ESPN NFL, Matt Schaub, Ben Roethlisberger  
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2012-10-18 01:23:23 PM  
The irony here is that literally 2 hours after that article posted to ESPN, Jamison Hensley was tweeting that he couldn't understand why people were under the impression Suggs would play on Sunday. I'd quote it but Firefox has once again decided that Twitter's security certificate is invalid, so I won't be able to access the site for an hour or four.
 
2012-10-18 02:11:42 PM  
Ray Lewis was apparently the only Raven the Cowboys were capable of containing this week.
 
2012-10-18 02:18:32 PM  
Ed Reed has a Torn labrum? How was that not news? Yeah, kind of hope Suggs isn't returning too early and risking it otherwise my Md friends might be on suicide watch soon.

quoth the raven
 
2012-10-18 02:27:55 PM  
ESPN injury expert
 
2012-10-18 02:32:23 PM  
i.telegraph.co.uk
 
2012-10-18 02:48:46 PM  
From what I've seen, the notion that Suggs would play this weekend is laughable. People aren't legitimately expecting him to be allowed on the field for at least a month.
 
2012-10-18 03:03:42 PM  
ESPN is f*cking horrible. God how I wish they had a real competitor.
 
2012-10-18 03:06:53 PM  

seumasokelly: From what I've seen, the notion that Suggs would play this weekend is laughable. People aren't legitimately expecting him to be allowed on the field for at least a month.


Yeah, hasn't he only been cleared for what amounts to jogging?
 
2012-10-18 03:14:00 PM  
Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.
 
2012-10-18 03:23:22 PM  
with a two game lead in the division, and teh following 4 on the schedule

@ Hous
BYE WEEK
@ Cleve
Oakland
@ Steelers

on paper, that's not exactly a murderer's row. he snapped his achilles about 5 months ago and there's no way he's 100% and more to the piont, in football shape. dumb idea. best case scenario is he plays at 80% and is ineffective, wrost case scenario he aggravates it and misses the entire season.

Better to miss one game, take advantage of teh bye week, sit out a "probably win" vs Cleveland and maybe oakland, tehn return in five weeks vs Pitts.

dumb idea, T-Sizzle.
 
2012-10-18 04:29:44 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: ESPN is f*cking horrible. God how I wish they had a real competitor.


THIS
Their college coverage is good, but the NFL coverage is a joke.
They've basically become Fox News for sports. Rather than real reporting just determine what is trending then repeat it back to the masses.
We receive a small endorphin rush when we hear things with which we agree. Easy to get viewers that way.

FYI
Romo is a terrible QB
The passer rating is stupid and can't possibly be understood.
Favre is the best Packer ever.
Tebow

/#Bayless
 
2012-10-18 04:37:10 PM  
Golf Claps subby.
 
2012-10-18 05:03:01 PM  

thecpt: Ed Reed has a Torn labrum? How was that not news? Yeah, kind of hope Suggs isn't returning too early and risking it otherwise my Md friends might be on suicide watch soon.

quoth the raven


Is Future Canton Enshrinee/Defensive Coordinator Ed Reed's injury a non-playing one? If he's out, our D will probably stay 31 or 32 for the year. That's Reed, Lewis, Sizzle, Ngata, Webb - 2 guys from every level of the D (except LB, but Sizz is a hybrid).
 
2012-10-18 05:07:45 PM  

Dr Dreidel: thecpt: Ed Reed has a Torn labrum? How was that not news? Yeah, kind of hope Suggs isn't returning too early and risking it otherwise my Md friends might be on suicide watch soon.

quoth the raven

Is Future Canton Enshrinee/Defensive Coordinator Ed Reed's injury a non-playing one? If he's out, our D will probably stay 31 or 32 for the year. That's Reed, Lewis, Sizzle, Ngata, Webb - 2 guys from every level of the D (except LB, but Sizz is a hybrid).


Word is that Reed will play and has even challenged teams to try to pick on him.
 
2012-10-18 05:16:54 PM  

seumasokelly: Dr Dreidel: thecpt: Ed Reed has a Torn labrum? How was that not news? Yeah, kind of hope Suggs isn't returning too early and risking it otherwise my Md friends might be on suicide watch soon.

quoth the raven

Is Future Canton Enshrinee/Defensive Coordinator Ed Reed's injury a non-playing one? If he's out, our D will probably stay 31 or 32 for the year. That's Reed, Lewis, Sizzle, Ngata, Webb - 2 guys from every level of the D (except LB, but Sizz is a hybrid).

Word is that Reed will play and has even challenged teams to try to pick on him.


*puts down razor blade*
Good.
 
2012-10-18 05:27:49 PM  
I hope he waits it out till after the bye. I love Suggs and can't wait to see him back, but let's not rush it, man.
 
2012-10-18 09:15:25 PM  

Treygreen13: Ray Lewis was apparently the only Raven the Cowboys were capable of containing this week.


LaDarius Webb.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: ESPN is f*cking horrible. God how I wish they had a real competitor.


NBC is hyping a new highlights show that's supposed to be highlights instead of what Sportscenter has devolved into. I'm not holding my breath, but best of luck to them.
 
2012-10-18 09:16:01 PM  
I've never understood why Lewis gets a pass on the whole murder thing. He's a great football player for sure, but still. I can see that he wasn't convicted and should be able to earn a living, but to be in commercials, I don't get it.

I want to see an edited commercial with the girl asking him questions at a press conference where she asks what it feels like to kill someone.
 
2012-10-18 11:32:26 PM  

mjbok: I've never understood why Lewis gets a pass on the whole murder thing. He's a great football player for sure, but still. I can see that he wasn't convicted and should be able to earn a living, but to be in commercials, I don't get it.

I want to see an edited commercial with the girl asking him questions at a press conference where she asks what it feels like to kill someone.


You do realize he never killed anybody, right? That he was never even accused of killing anybody?
 
2012-10-18 11:36:26 PM  

jack21221: You do realize he never killed anybody, right? That he was never even accused of killing anybody?


"Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were questioned by Atlanta police, and eleven days later the three men were indicted on murder and aggravated assault charges." Accused, indicted.
 
2012-10-18 11:38:56 PM  

mjbok: jack21221: You do realize he never killed anybody, right? That he was never even accused of killing anybody?

"Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were questioned by Atlanta police, and eleven days later the three men were indicted on murder and aggravated assault charges." Accused, indicted.



So, no I don't realize that. I do realize he plead out which included him ratting out his buddies, then paid an undisclosed amount to multiple parties to end the matter. Nope, he's a farking saint.
 
2012-10-18 11:57:02 PM  

mjbok: mjbok: jack21221: You do realize he never killed anybody, right? That he was never even accused of killing anybody?

"Lewis and two companions, Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting, were questioned by Atlanta police, and eleven days later the three men were indicted on murder and aggravated assault charges." Accused, indicted.


So, no I don't realize that. I do realize he plead out which included him ratting out his buddies, then paid an undisclosed amount to multiple parties to end the matter. Nope, he's a farking saint.


I'm sorry, you don't understand the difference between killing somebody and being accused of murder. He was accused of hanging out with the actual murderer and refusing to rat him out. You want somebody to ask him what it "feels like to kill somebody." Well, he has never done so, so that's a ridiculous question.

Nobody's saying he's a saint, that's a non sequitur. However, you are claiming that he actually killed somebody, which is something he's never been accused of. Do you at least see the difference between stabbing somebody and watching a friend stab somebody? Or are those the same act to you?
 
2012-10-19 05:44:09 AM  
The vaunted Ravens' defense is 26th is yards/game and 22nd in points/game.
 
2012-10-19 07:04:31 AM  

jack21221: Nobody's saying he's a saint, that's a non sequitur. However, you are claiming that he actually killed somebody, which is something he's never been accused of. Do you at least see the difference between stabbing somebody and watching a friend stab somebody? Or are those the same act to you?


Let me start by saying I am a Ravens fan and that I like Ray Lewis as a player. But then let me say that you're in one hell of a state of denial. You're suggesting anyone's involvement in a crime can be solely judged by what they are ultimately charged with. So If you and I rob a bank (I do the actual gun work and you just drive the getaway car), we get caught and you rat me out in exchange for dropped charges, that's just as good as never having committed the crime. Well, Ray Lewis may not have done the actual stabbing, but he was there, helped his friends get away, lied to police, and destroyed evidence (his white suit that was never found).
 
2012-10-19 08:34:39 AM  

WinoRhino: Well, Ray Lewis may not have done the actual stabbing, but he was there, helped his friends get away, lied to police, and destroyed evidence (his white suit that was never found).


Dude, you're agreeing with me. Ray Lewis never killed anybody. He might have helped somebody who did, but he did not kill anybody. The poster I was responding to wanted to ask Ray what it "feels like to kill somebody." There is a factual difference between the two
 
2012-10-19 09:25:35 AM  
It's only the mentally lazy that say Ray Lewis got away with killing someone. His behavior was clearly wrong after the stabbing, but that should be the only thing he is judged on. His thug friends put him in a bad spot and he didn't know how to handle it.
 
2012-10-19 09:27:57 AM  

jack21221: Dude, you're agreeing with me. Ray Lewis never killed anybody. He might have helped somebody who did, but he did not kill anybody. The poster I was responding to wanted to ask Ray what it "feels like to kill somebody." There is a factual difference between the two


On Fark, people actually believe that helping someone in any way conceal a crime (even if, apparently, you end up telling the police who did it) is the equivalent to having perpetrated the crime. You will be called horrible things if you actually try to bring logic and reality into arguments. Just so you know.
 
2012-10-19 09:37:02 AM  

IAmRight: jack21221: Dude, you're agreeing with me. Ray Lewis never killed anybody. He might have helped somebody who did, but he did not kill anybody. The poster I was responding to wanted to ask Ray what it "feels like to kill somebody." There is a factual difference between the two

On Farkthe internet, people actually believe that helping someone in any way conceal a crime (even if, apparently, you end up telling the police who did it) is the equivalent to having perpetrated the crime. You will be called horrible things if you actually try to bring logic and reality into arguments. Just so you know.


FTFY.
 
2012-10-19 09:51:17 AM  

IAmRight: jack21221: Dude, you're agreeing with me. Ray Lewis never killed anybody. He might have helped somebody who did, but he did not kill anybody. The poster I was responding to wanted to ask Ray what it "feels like to kill somebody." There is a factual difference between the two

On Fark, people actually believe that helping someone in any way conceal a crime (even if, apparently, you end up telling the police who did it) is the equivalent to having perpetrated the crime. You will be called horrible things if you actually try to bring logic and reality into arguments. Just so you know.


What's worse is the people he turned in were acquitted as well. There wasn't enough information available to police to convict anyone. Considering this was in a crowded location and no one is talking, either the police are not trusted in that area (not unlikely) or the people who got stabbed had a whole lot of enemies. (also not unlikely)
 
2012-10-19 09:58:44 AM  

HaywoodJablonski: Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.

Please let Suggs play.


THIS
 
2012-10-19 10:05:34 AM  
Except that Suggs - whose phone #, email, twitter and facebook ALL of the ESPN reporters know, has said he never said any such thing and would have categorically denied it as ridiculous had anyone bothered to ask him.

ESPN = Every Source is Possibly News
 
2012-10-19 01:16:53 PM  

jack21221: mjbok: I've never understood why Lewis gets a pass on the whole murder thing. He's a great football player for sure, but still. I can see that he wasn't convicted and should be able to earn a living, but to be in commercials, I don't get it.

I want to see an edited commercial with the girl asking him questions at a press conference where she asks what it feels like to kill someone.

You do realize he never killed anybody, right? That he was never even accused of killing anybody?


Right at the end you state he was never even accused of murder. He was charged and subsequently plead out. That is most certainly "accused" by any definition.

His participation in the events is not questioned. What that participation was is not known.
 
2012-10-19 02:50:54 PM  

mjbok: Right at the end you state he was never even accused of murder. He was charged and subsequently plead out. That is most certainly "accused" by any definition.


No I did not! I said he was never accused of killing anybody. Do you know the difference between murder and killing somebody? I'll tell you: you don't need to kill somebody to be guilty of murder. Nobody accused him of being the one doing the stabbing, so why would you ask him what it feels like to kill somebody?
 
2012-10-19 05:38:52 PM  

jack21221: No I did not! I said he was never accused of killing anybody. Do you know the difference between murder and killing somebody? I'll tell you: you don't need to kill somebody to be guilty of murder. Nobody accused him of being the one doing the stabbing, so why would you ask him what it feels like to kill somebody?


Would it have been better to ask him what it was like to murder someone? You're parsing words. According to Georgia criminal code what he was charged with involves "killing with malice of forethought" or other definitions. Believe it or not "to kill" and "to murder" are often used interchangeably.

Either way, you're still wrong: "An Atlanta police affidavit charged that the 24-year-old Lewis, "along with others," killed Jacinth Baker, 21, and Richard Lollar, 24, both from nearby Decatur, "by punching, beating and stabbing them with a sharp object." A police affidavit charged that Lewis...killed, etc. You can parse it any way you want, but you're not correct. Maybe he didn't actually kill (or murder) someone, but to say that he was never accused in just wrong.

I could use the literal definition of your statement "he was never even accused of killing anybody" and say that he was, by many people. You go to the murder and killing are different, and though he was accused (and charged) of murdering someone, he was never accused of killing someone. He was...by the police...in official documents.
 
2012-10-20 03:48:54 AM  

mjbok: I could use the literal definition of your statement "he was never even accused of killing anybody" and say that he was, by many people. You go to the murder and killing are different, and though he was accused (and charged) of murdering someone, he was never accused of killing someone. He was...by the police...in official documents.


I know you're just here trying to get a reaction, but you need to get your facts straight. Yes, he was charged with murder, but never went on trial for that crime. He accepted a plea bargain in which he turned state's witness against the other two defendants and plead guilty to misdemeanor obstruction of justice; the murder charges were dismissed. See what your legal dictionary says about things "dismissed'. Lewis served 12 months of probation and thus has "paid his debt to society".

But, yeah...that's why he's allowed to do commercials. And as for why they don't have little children asking him about murdering people, that's related to a little-known subsection in U.S. laws concerning people being "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law." Kind of like why you shouldn't be required to preface every post you make with "I am a dumbass" just because I (or others) accuse you of being one, only much more official.
 
2012-10-20 08:53:34 AM  
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2012-10-20 05:26:00 PM  

Harv72b: Yes, he was charged with murder, but never went on trial for that crime. He accepted a plea bargain in which he turned state's witness against the other two defendants and plead guilty to misdemeanor obstruction of justice; the murder charges were dismissed. See what your legal dictionary says about things "dismissed'. Lewis served 12 months of probation and thus has "paid his debt to society".


This has absolutely nothing to do with your statement that he was never accused of killing someone. He was. The fact that the charges were dropped do not magically make that accusation disappear. I didn't say he was tried for murder, I said he was charged with murder, which he was. Can you at least admit you're wrong there?

Harv72b: But, yeah...that's why he's allowed to do commercials. And as for why they don't have little children asking him about murdering people, that's related to a little-known subsection in U.S. laws concerning people being "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law."


cdn.wl.uproxx.com
Wants to know where his commercials were before the kidnapping charges.

He's an incredible football player. That doesn't change the fact that he was involved (somehow) with two people getting killed. If he wasn't, why would he have paid untold millions to the families of the victims?
 
2012-10-20 05:35:16 PM  

mjbok: Can you at least admit you're wrong there?


If I were, I'd gladly admit it. Check the Tuesday NFL Power Rankings thread each week to see me admit how often I'm wrong. In this case I am not, nor have any of the unrelated arguments you posted above shown or even hinted that I was. Of course, your next "point" shows exactly why you'd think I was.

mjbok: Wants to know where his commercials were before the kidnapping charges.


Well there you go. Obviously since they're both football players who were charged with a crime their cases are one in the same. Or is it because they're both black?

Never mind that one actually went on trial for murder and the other didn't. Never mind also that one was charged with actually killing two people with his own hands and the other never was. And most of all, never mind that one was named Orenthal James Simpson and the other Ray Anthony Lewis. Kind of like one poster who responded to your idiocy is named jack21221 and I go by Harv72b.

Also, I'm neither black nor a football player.

/Apples. They're not oranges.
 
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