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(Jerusalem Post)   Iranian president: U.S. empire will fall due to massive debt. U ahmad, bro?   (jpost.com) divider line 75
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2012-10-18 11:35:05 AM
It's funny because the Iranian economy has collapsed due to sanctions imposed on it by the US and partner countries. It's gotten so bad that people are rioting because their Iranian rial currency is worth less every day and that they can no longer afford food.
 
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2012-10-18 11:37:12 AM
Iran will go first judging by the effect the sanctions are having.
 
2012-10-18 11:40:56 AM
No, it won't.
 
2012-10-18 11:57:13 AM
Yes, it will.

/all empires collapse under their own weight
//END THE FED
/legalizing drugs would destroy Wall Street
..where white men used to rent out slaves by the day or week
/now they gamble your future and that of your unborn great-grandchildren
 
2012-10-18 12:04:49 PM
Incorrect, Iranian president. If the US falls, it will be because of ninjas.

i76.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-18 12:16:42 PM
That may be. And if that happens, then the economy of China also implodes, due to the loss of its primary trading partner. The EU and major SE Asian nations are caught up in the collapse, which leads to, among many other things, the global demand- well, ability to pay for- oil cratering. And Iran, which isn't doing too hot economically at the moment anyway, suddenly becomes a post-apocalyptic, distopian society.

That, or the Fed prints a bit more money and we deal with the mild heartburn of inflation. One or the other.
 
2012-10-18 12:20:34 PM
Iranian Presient Mittmoud Romninajhad.
 
2012-10-18 12:40:14 PM
Yeah, so what of it?
 
2012-10-18 12:43:31 PM
Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?
 
2012-10-18 12:55:39 PM

DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?


Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.
 
2012-10-18 12:56:32 PM

GAT_00: DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?

Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.


What the difference between "bad inflation" and hyperinflation?

Not a joke, serious question. Is there some generally acceptable economic principle about how to differentiate the two?
 
2012-10-18 01:06:31 PM

urban.derelict: Yes, it will.

/all empires collapse under their own weight
//END THE FED
/legalizing drugs would destroy Wall Street


Did your fedora pop off while you typed that?
 
2012-10-18 01:08:14 PM

DamnYankees: GAT_00: DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?

Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.

What the difference between "bad inflation" and hyperinflation?

Not a joke, serious question. Is there some generally acceptable economic principle about how to differentiate the two?


Hyperinflation I think should refer to conditions where prices double within a one week period or less. That's my rough definition anyway.
 
2012-10-18 01:13:27 PM

GAT_00: DamnYankees: GAT_00: DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?

Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.

What the difference between "bad inflation" and hyperinflation?

Not a joke, serious question. Is there some generally acceptable economic principle about how to differentiate the two?

Hyperinflation I think should refer to conditions where prices double within a one week period or less. That's my rough definition anyway.


If my math is right, that would be an inflation rate of approximately 450,000,000,000,000,000%.

I think you're being a little too strict in the definition.
 
2012-10-18 01:13:33 PM
That asshole has been listening to Glenn Beck.
 
2012-10-18 01:24:30 PM

sweetmelissa31: urban.derelict: Yes, it will.

/all empires collapse under their own weight
//END THE FED
/legalizing drugs would destroy Wall Street

Did your fedora pop off while you typed that?


IT IS NOT A FEDORA IT IS A TRILBY AND FURTHERMORE COMMA
 
2012-10-18 01:24:49 PM

Gonz: That may be. And if that happens, then the economy of China also implodes, due to the loss of its primary trading partner. The EU and major SE Asian nations are caught up in the collapse, which leads to, among many other things, the global demand- well, ability to pay for- oil cratering. And Iran, which isn't doing too hot economically at the moment anyway, suddenly becomes a post-apocalyptic, distopian society.

That, or the Fed prints a bit more money and we deal with the mild heartburn of inflation. One or the other.


Basically, yeah.

It's in the interests of the world economy that the US not fall, because, quite literally, if we fall, everyone falls.
 
2012-10-18 01:35:44 PM

urban.derelict: Yes, it will.

/all empires collapse under their own weight
//END THE FED
/legalizing drugs would destroy Wall Street
..where white men used to rent out slaves by the day or week
/now they gamble your future and that of your unborn great-grandchildren


Shouldn't you be throwing a bag of your own feces at a police officer right now?
 
2012-10-18 01:36:53 PM
Somewhere, George Kennan is laughing at you, Ahmadinejad.
 
2012-10-18 01:37:09 PM

DamnYankees: GAT_00: DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?

Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.

What the difference between "bad inflation" and hyperinflation?

Not a joke, serious question. Is there some generally acceptable economic principle about how to differentiate the two?


Usually, hyperinflation means 50% monthly inflation, as a ballpark figure. If a nation'shiatting, say, 45% monthly, there aren't many economists who will come out and say "Quit calling that hyperinflation! It doesn't meet the textbook definition!"

I'd say NO economist would say that, but as politicized as that field has become, if some economist thought he could discredit an idealogical adversary by making that argument, they might. Hell, why am I qualifying that? They would.
 
2012-10-18 01:44:02 PM
Trilby ⊂ Fedoras. Therefore, it is a fedora. QED.
 
2012-10-18 01:47:53 PM

sweetmelissa31: Trilby ⊂ Fedoras. Therefore, it is a fedora. QED.


Wake up, sheepulace. The truth is out there. And it is wearing a fedora.
 
2012-10-18 02:05:55 PM
So Paul Ryan is president of Iran?
 
2012-10-18 02:10:15 PM
He's just bitter about getting his lay-off notice
 
2012-10-18 02:33:12 PM
He is a religious conservative, after all.
 
2012-10-18 02:37:27 PM

urban.derelict: //END THE FED


Yeah, destroy the thing that's prevented us from being destroyed. And replace it with the exact thing the fed was created to save us from. farking history, how does it work?
 
2012-10-18 02:39:32 PM
A fellow social conservative
 
2012-10-18 02:39:43 PM

RexTalionis: It's funny because the Iranian economy has collapsed due to sanctions imposed on it by the US and partner countries. It's gotten so bad that people are rioting because their Iranian rial currency is worth less every day and that they can no longer afford food.


That's not all that funny.
 
2012-10-18 02:41:40 PM
Oh you islamic Republicans! Always projecting
 
2012-10-18 02:42:38 PM

DamnYankees: GAT_00: DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?

Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.

What the difference between "bad inflation" and hyperinflation?

Not a joke, serious question. Is there some generally acceptable economic principle about how to differentiate the two?


This is what hyperinflation looks like:

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-18 02:47:13 PM

sweetmelissa31: Trilby ⊂ Fedoras. Therefore, it is a fedora. QED.


Your Mother ∴ Combat Boots. BOOM!
 
2012-10-18 02:54:20 PM

SN1987a goes boom: DamnYankees: GAT_00: DamnYankees: Isn't Iran undergoing borderline hyperinflation right now?

Not really, just bad inflation. What he is doing is using the same talking points the Republicans around here use, projecting their weaknesses onto us to hide their own.

What the difference between "bad inflation" and hyperinflation?

Not a joke, serious question. Is there some generally acceptable economic principle about how to differentiate the two?

This is what hyperinflation looks like:

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 240x120]


I so need to buy some of those off ebay.
 
2012-10-18 02:57:06 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Gonz: That may be. And if that happens, then the economy of China also implodes, due to the loss of its primary trading partner. The EU and major SE Asian nations are caught up in the collapse, which leads to, among many other things, the global demand- well, ability to pay for- oil cratering. And Iran, which isn't doing too hot economically at the moment anyway, suddenly becomes a post-apocalyptic, distopian society.

That, or the Fed prints a bit more money and we deal with the mild heartburn of inflation. One or the other.

Basically, yeah.

It's in the interests of the world economy that the US not fall, because, quite literally, if we fall, everyone falls.

 

This is a fallacy. If China has enough energy/food and labor to sustain itself it will be fine. Why does China need to trade with anybody? Instead of selling goods to the US, they can just use them for themselves.
 
2012-10-18 02:59:13 PM

TheLalagah: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Gonz: That may be. And if that happens, then the economy of China also implodes, due to the loss of its primary trading partner. The EU and major SE Asian nations are caught up in the collapse, which leads to, among many other things, the global demand- well, ability to pay for- oil cratering. And Iran, which isn't doing too hot economically at the moment anyway, suddenly becomes a post-apocalyptic, distopian society.

That, or the Fed prints a bit more money and we deal with the mild heartburn of inflation. One or the other.

Basically, yeah.

It's in the interests of the world economy that the US not fall, because, quite literally, if we fall, everyone falls. 

This is a fallacy. If China has enough energy/food and labor to sustain itself it will be fine. Why does China need to trade with anybody? Instead of selling goods to the US, they can just use them for themselves.


Okay
 
2012-10-18 03:00:49 PM

TheLalagah: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Gonz: That may be. And if that happens, then the economy of China also implodes, due to the loss of its primary trading partner. The EU and major SE Asian nations are caught up in the collapse, which leads to, among many other things, the global demand- well, ability to pay for- oil cratering. And Iran, which isn't doing too hot economically at the moment anyway, suddenly becomes a post-apocalyptic, distopian society.

That, or the Fed prints a bit more money and we deal with the mild heartburn of inflation. One or the other.

Basically, yeah.

It's in the interests of the world economy that the US not fall, because, quite literally, if we fall, everyone falls. 

This is a fallacy. If China has enough energy/food and labor to sustain itself it will be fine. Why does China need to trade with anybody? Instead of selling goods to the US, they can just use them for themselves.


China's population isn't wealthy enough to consume what they produce at a price high enough to keep things afloat.
 
2012-10-18 03:03:39 PM

RexTalionis: It's funny because the Iranian economy has collapsed due to sanctions imposed on it by the US and partner countries. It's gotten so bad that people are rioting because their Iranian rial currency is worth less every day and that they can no longer afford food.


1. The Iranian president is right.
2. It's not really funny. We're committing acts of war and aggression against a country that has not directly attacked us. We've also manipulated the politics and leadership of that country in the past. If you really wish that sort of thing on other people then @#$% you.
 
2012-10-18 03:04:50 PM
Actually, on that point of his speech, he's completely right.

/even a broken clock ...
 
2012-10-18 03:11:08 PM

kid_icarus: Incorrect, Iranian president. If the US falls, it will be because of ninjas.

[i76.photobucket.com image 204x179]


We have a bad dude deficit.
 
2012-10-18 03:11:44 PM

beta_plus: Actually, on that point of his speech, he's completely right.

/even a broken clock ...


Just like how the US collapsed after WWII?
 
2012-10-18 03:14:08 PM

PC LOAD LETTER: urban.derelict: //END THE FED

Yeah, destroy the thing that's prevented us from being destroyed. And replace it with the exact thing the fed was created to save us from. farking history, how does it work?


I want these people to find one world power in history that did not control their currency through either policymakers or a central bank through either by fiat or manipulation of the supply and demand of the commodity backing the currency.

Whatever you choose to do, the government will still want the power to control the currency because the alternative is so much worse for everyone. Do you prefer it be a bunch of retired bankers who are semi-accountable for the economy chugging ahead or do you want to obscure it so that anyone with significant enough wealth can manipulate our currency by cornering the market?
 
2012-10-18 03:25:53 PM
Oh wow, we should spend a ton of money invading Iran to shut him up. Romney 2012!
 
2012-10-18 03:28:51 PM

TheLalagah: This is a fallacy. If China has enough energy/food and labor to sustain itself it will be fine. Why does China need to trade with anybody? Instead of selling goods to the US, they can just use them for themselves.


This is the "there are levels of existence that we are prepared to accept".

Yes, physically, most countries will survive. Politically and economically, however, they will suffer great setbacks. You can't sustain a first world economy without trade.
 
2012-10-18 03:31:07 PM

Arkanaut: beta_plus: Actually, on that point of his speech, he's completely right.

/even a broken clock ...

Just like how the US collapsed after WWII?


More like how Yugoslavia collapsed after the fall of the Warsaw Pact and Soviet Union.
 
2012-10-18 03:38:16 PM

RexTalionis: It's funny because the Iranian economy has collapsed due to sanctions imposed on it by the US and partner countries. It's gotten so bad that people are rioting because their Iranian rial currency is worth less every day and that they can no longer afford food.


and his citizens are doing all they can to get their hands on US dollars so they must not be buying into our eminent crash
 
2012-10-18 03:40:38 PM

TheLalagah: RexTalionis: It's funny because the Iranian economy has collapsed due to sanctions imposed on it by the US and partner countries. It's gotten so bad that people are rioting because their Iranian rial currency is worth less every day and that they can no longer afford food.

1. The Iranian president is right.
2. It's not really funny. We're committing acts of war and aggression against a country that has not directly attacked us. We've also manipulated the politics and leadership of that country in the past. If you really wish that sort of thing on other people then @#$% you.



It's not just the United States acting alone, and I find your definition of an "Act of War" a bit off. When most of the world decides it doesn't want to trade with you anymore because of your actions then MAYBE ... just maybe ... that country is acting like a jackass.

I mean, are you really going to stand up for Iran right now? A country that stones gay, treats women as 2nd class citizens and wants to "wipe Israel off the map".
 
2012-10-18 03:42:14 PM
First we go into a nationwide panic from the fiscal cliff, then the Iranians break out the stolen Russian nukes and then they clean up with boots on the ground. Excellent plan.
 
2012-10-18 03:51:38 PM

chasd00: TheLalagah: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Gonz: That may be. And if that happens, then the economy of China also implodes, due to the loss of its primary trading partner. The EU and major SE Asian nations are caught up in the collapse, which leads to, among many other things, the global demand- well, ability to pay for- oil cratering. And Iran, which isn't doing too hot economically at the moment anyway, suddenly becomes a post-apocalyptic, distopian society.

That, or the Fed prints a bit more money and we deal with the mild heartburn of inflation. One or the other.

Basically, yeah.

It's in the interests of the world economy that the US not fall, because, quite literally, if we fall, everyone falls. 

This is a fallacy. If China has enough energy/food and labor to sustain itself it will be fine. Why does China need to trade with anybody? Instead of selling goods to the US, they can just use them for themselves.

China's population isn't wealthy enough to consume what they produce at a price high enough to keep things afloat.


Not to mention the fact their industrial base would collapse from a sheer lack of raw materials. Part of China's trade equation is using the proceeds from manufacturing to bring in raw materials from overseas. They rely on the outside for oil, steel, and plastic.
 
2012-10-18 04:06:48 PM

HellRaisingHoosier: TheLalagah: RexTalionis: It's funny because the Iranian economy has collapsed due to sanctions imposed on it by the US and partner countries. It's gotten so bad that people are rioting because their Iranian rial currency is worth less every day and that they can no longer afford food.

1. The Iranian president is right.
2. It's not really funny. We're committing acts of war and aggression against a country that has not directly attacked us. We've also manipulated the politics and leadership of that country in the past. If you really wish that sort of thing on other people then @#$% you.


It's not just the United States acting alone, and I find your definition of an "Act of War" a bit off. When most of the world decides it doesn't want to trade with you anymore because of your actions then MAYBE ... just maybe ... that country is acting like a jackass.

I mean, are you really going to stand up for Iran right now? A country that stones gay, treats women as 2nd class citizens and wants to "wipe Israel off the map".


Yes I am, because what we're doing to them is wrong. ..and yes, it is an act of war. If country relies on trade for certain goods and your a country is actively denying those goods through intimidation or force, it's an act of war... not to mention sabotaging their nuclear program, killing civilians with drones, or bombing scientists. I ask you, what has Iran done to us to deserve this? Anyone?
 
2012-10-18 04:14:39 PM
Has.
 
2012-10-18 04:15:43 PM
i.imgur.com
 
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