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(HelenaIR.com)   Criminal genius: Lets see, I'm the sole employee of this used car dealership, and the owner is on vacation. I'll sell the entire inventory to an out-of-state dealer, pocket the money and no one will be the wiser   (helenair.com) divider line 56
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2012-10-18 11:24:02 AM
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I'm cooperating here
 
2012-10-18 11:34:41 AM
McGinnis has sold the dealer 25 or 26 cars around Aug. 2, according to prosecutors. The dealer sent more than 20 drivers to move the cars to Idaho and left McGinnis a check for approximately $100,000, according to prosecutors.

Hmm, I think you can get a better estimate than that, TFA.
Now I want to see the plan for 21 guys trying to drive 26 cars across the country. Do you think there were 5 guys who each drove two cars simultaneously? Or was there one guy driving 6 cars simultaneously?
 
2012-10-18 11:42:13 AM
Lot check!
 
2012-10-18 11:42:56 AM

serial_crusher: McGinnis has sold the dealer 25 or 26 cars around Aug. 2, according to prosecutors. The dealer sent more than 20 drivers to move the cars to Idaho and left McGinnis a check for approximately $100,000, according to prosecutors.

Hmm, I think you can get a better estimate than that, TFA.
Now I want to see the plan for 21 guys trying to drive 26 cars across the country. Do you think there were 5 guys who each drove two cars simultaneously? Or was there one guy driving 6 cars simultaneously?


A few trucks towing smaller cars perhaps?
 
2012-10-18 11:51:41 AM
Wanted for questioning
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-18 02:15:30 PM
The real criminal in this situation is a government that wants to collect tax on the sale of a used car it already collected sales tax on when it was new.
 
2012-10-18 02:18:05 PM

Elandriel: serial_crusher: McGinnis has sold the dealer 25 or 26 cars around Aug. 2, according to prosecutors. The dealer sent more than 20 drivers to move the cars to Idaho and left McGinnis a check for approximately $100,000, according to prosecutors.

Hmm, I think you can get a better estimate than that, TFA.
Now I want to see the plan for 21 guys trying to drive 26 cars across the country. Do you think there were 5 guys who each drove two cars simultaneously? Or was there one guy driving 6 cars simultaneously?

A few trucks towing smaller cars perhaps?


This is already more thought than what went in to the original plan.
 
2012-10-18 02:18:37 PM
20 to 29%??!!


FARK YOU!!!


/in the goat arse
 
2012-10-18 02:19:42 PM
People suck.
 
2012-10-18 02:19:44 PM
Also wanted for questioning

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-18 02:20:26 PM

Elandriel: serial_crusher: McGinnis has sold the dealer 25 or 26 cars around Aug. 2, according to prosecutors. The dealer sent more than 20 drivers to move the cars to Idaho and left McGinnis a check for approximately $100,000, according to prosecutors.

Hmm, I think you can get a better estimate than that, TFA.
Now I want to see the plan for 21 guys trying to drive 26 cars across the country. Do you think there were 5 guys who each drove two cars simultaneously? Or was there one guy driving 6 cars simultaneously?

A few trucks towing smaller cars perhaps?


Ever driven down I-10 through Arizona, New Mexico and west TX?
 
2012-10-18 02:22:57 PM
You kept the guy you bought the business from on as the sole employee and didn't expect him to do something shady?
 
2012-10-18 02:23:25 PM
All that for a few hundred thou? Go big or go home, son.
 
2012-10-18 02:25:21 PM
Lying scumbags screwing over other lying scumbags? Oh boy, can we get a few REALTORS® involved and set the whole thing on fire?
 
2012-10-18 02:25:59 PM
Photo of the suspect:

www.dvd.net.au
 
2012-10-18 02:26:16 PM
What is this world coming to when you can't trust a used car salesman?!?!
 
2012-10-18 02:26:31 PM
If the guy was nearing retirement, $600k might be enough to be "take it and run off to Mexico" money.

If he didn't run though, I have no idea what he was thinking.
 
2012-10-18 02:29:23 PM

zeio: The real criminal in this situation is a government that wants to collect tax on the sale of a used car it already collected sales tax on when it was new.


This is what TeaBaggers really believe.

No brains, no headaches I suppose.
 
2012-10-18 02:32:01 PM

There's a simple solution. All the owner has to do is ask for a...

www.homevideos.com

DON'T YOU SAY IT!

 
2012-10-18 02:34:04 PM
Sounds like he was Robbed Easy, alright.
 
2012-10-18 02:35:07 PM
Maybe the salesman just realized how badly Dildo Douchbaggins was screwing over the average man with the usurious finance rates and decided to shut it down.

/Wish I could get 20% interest.
 
2012-10-18 02:38:41 PM
And he would have got away with it too; if it wasn't for those meddling kids.
 
2012-10-18 02:38:45 PM

zeio: The real criminal in this situation is a government that wants to collect tax on the sale of a used car it already collected sales tax on when it was new.


So much THIS!!!
 
2012-10-18 02:43:45 PM
I worked for a dealership when I was a teen, there was a back lot full of older cars that had been sitting for a couple years, the owner of the place would not sell them for some reason. He was pretty old, and his adult sons also worked there and ran another dealership. So one day the old man is out of town, and the sons decide to sell off these cars, must have been over 50 cars that were not worth more then $1500 each. I was out there all day getting them started, putting gas in them, jumping the batteries and so on. We get these moved to another lot to sell, then the old man got word and freaked out, so back they go to sit and rot. Some years later he died, so the first thing the sons did was liquidate 100s of cars that he hoarded, he had multiple lots and indoor buildings full of sweet cars. I got to go into one warehouse, it was pretty impressive. But I couldn't understand why he wouldn't sell those other crap cars that weren't worth much. Did I mention he was Jewish? Oh well.
 
2012-10-18 02:44:11 PM
Somebody needed a mile of used cars......

thisdistractedglobe.com
 
2012-10-18 02:46:05 PM

Apos: Photo of the suspect:

[www.dvd.net.au image 500x270]


What are we talkin' about here? Pussy, right? Let's face it: The 'Vette...gets 'em wet.

/Absolutely a CLASSIC character for Paxton.
 
2012-10-18 02:50:27 PM
Sheesh, well I guess I'll never do that again!
 
2012-10-18 02:51:50 PM

Johnnyflash: I worked for a dealership when I was a teen, there was a back lot full of older cars that had been sitting for a couple years, the owner of the place would not sell them for some reason. He was pretty old, and his adult sons also worked there and ran another dealership. So one day the old man is out of town, and the sons decide to sell off these cars, must have been over 50 cars that were not worth more then $1500 each. I was out there all day getting them started, putting gas in them, jumping the batteries and so on. We get these moved to another lot to sell, then the old man got word and freaked out, so back they go to sit and rot. Some years later he died, so the first thing the sons did was liquidate 100s of cars that he hoarded, he had multiple lots and indoor buildings full of sweet cars. I got to go into one warehouse, it was pretty impressive. But I couldn't understand why he wouldn't sell those other crap cars that weren't worth much. Did I mention he was Jewish? Oh well.


Those were probably cars the mob didn't want him to sell.
 
2012-10-18 02:58:39 PM
done in one.
 
2012-10-18 03:03:22 PM
Steals 592,0000.00 and bail is only 50k? what the hell?
 
2012-10-18 03:10:05 PM

Evil Mackerel: Steals 592,0000.00 and bail is only 50k? what the hell?


He caused $592,000 in losses. He sold the cars for $100,000.
 
2012-10-18 03:11:51 PM

Scoot951: If the guy was nearing retirement, $600k might be enough to be "take it and run off to Mexico" money.

If he didn't run though, I have no idea what he was thinking.


Yeah, this sort of crime has to be a take-the-money-and-run type thing as there's no way in the world it won't be traced to him.

Maybe he was planning on running before the owners came back but was found out too early.
 
2012-10-18 03:12:42 PM
I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.
 
2012-10-18 03:18:35 PM
Anyone else have the Car Hop ad on the top of this page?

Just in case you don't, here's their YT page, they are another buy here pay here crooked lot. They are always playing their stupid commercials here in KC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3pPEz_gykE
 
2012-10-18 03:27:19 PM
Hoopy Frood: I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.


They have nothing on title loans, I know someone who used one and is stuck with 400% interest. The freaking interest alone is like $400 a month! Ahhhh!
 
2012-10-18 03:28:32 PM
ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com 

I told ya. We haven't had any vehicles go missing.

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-18 03:43:44 PM

ltdanman44: [ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com image 425x315] 

I told ya. We haven't had any vehicles go missing.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x471]


Alright, you WANT me to do a lot check, I'll do a DAMN lot check!!!

... the lot is empty. Happy now?
 
2012-10-18 03:49:30 PM

Johnnyflash: Hoopy Frood: I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.

They have nothing on title loans, I know someone who used one and is stuck with 400% interest. The freaking interest alone is like $400 a month! Ahhhh!



While working as a PI I was part of a Forensic Accounting Audit of a Buy Here, Pay Here as part of a divorce proceeding. Title loans are least upfront about screwing you.

Step one: Buy Here Pay Here Business Plan, buy car for $1,000 at auction put car on lot for $7,500 financed over 84 months at 25% interest with $1,000 down.

Step 2 Option A: Repo car 3 months later after collecting $1,000 in payments, sell again for $1,000 down and $7,500 over 84 months.

Step 2 Option B: When car blows engine 3 months later and $1,000 in payments, sell buyer another $1,000 car for $8,500 over 84 months and $500 down.

Step 3: Profit
 
2012-10-18 03:50:22 PM
Looks like somebody read this handbook:
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-18 03:57:15 PM

Johnnyflash: Hoopy Frood: I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.

They have nothing on title loans, I know someone who used one and is stuck with 400% interest. The freaking interest alone is like $400 a month! Ahhhh!


Try the legal loan sharks like wonga.com they charge around 1000 to 2000% interest.
 
2012-10-18 04:01:04 PM

Scoot951: If the guy was nearing retirement, $600k might be enough to be "take it and run off to Mexico" money.

If he didn't run though, I have no idea what he was thinking.


He mistakenly sold his getaway car.

And he only got a check for $100K. The value of the inventory is estimated at $600K.
 
2012-10-18 04:02:12 PM

weapon13: Johnnyflash: Hoopy Frood: I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.

They have nothing on title loans, I know someone who used one and is stuck with 400% interest. The freaking interest alone is like $400 a month! Ahhhh!

Try the legal loan sharks like wonga.com they charge around 1000 to 2000% interest.


I put my full faith and credit in OctoLoan.com
 
2012-10-18 04:03:53 PM
Meh - steal 100,000 and you are criminal.
Steal 10,000,000 and you're a business man.
 
2012-10-18 04:07:46 PM

BarkingUnicorn: The value of the inventory is estimated at $600K.


BarkingUnicorn: He mistakenly sold his getaway car.

And he only got a check for $100K. The value of the inventory is estimated at $600K.



No the retail value of the cars was about $200K, the values of the loans was $400k making the owners potential losses $600K.
 
2012-10-18 04:10:03 PM

emersonbiggins: Lying scumbags screwing over other lying scumbags? Oh boy, can we get a few REALTORS® involved and set the whole thing on fire?


Let them each hire a couple lawyers first.
 
2012-10-18 04:10:06 PM

Securitywyrm: Evil Mackerel: Steals 592,0000.00 and bail is only 50k? what the hell?

He caused $592,000 in losses. He sold the cars for $100,000.


It says something about hte economics of hoopty dealers that 100K worth of cars will net them 500 K in profit
 
2012-10-18 04:16:50 PM

weapon13: Johnnyflash: Hoopy Frood: I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.

They have nothing on title loans, I know someone who used one and is stuck with 400% interest. The freaking interest alone is like $400 a month! Ahhhh!

Try the legal loan sharks like wonga.com they charge around 1000 to 2000% interest.


I've seen worse with payday lenders, saw the reciept from one of those places in the desk of an employee I fired and my farking heart broke.

All of this used to be illegal, until one Supreme Court decision in 1978 on a technical jurisdiction question (did the lending laws of the state where a credit card company was Hq'ed or the laws of the state where the customer lived control thier contract?) The SC decided in favor of the CC companies and the floodgates opened. Starting with South DaKota, states began to loosen their usury and consumer protection laws in an effort to convice CC companies to relocate there. It was a race to the bottom that Delaware and Nevada eventually won
 
2012-10-18 04:25:59 PM

Deathfrogg: zeio: The real criminal in this situation is a government that wants to collect tax on the sale of a used car it already collected sales tax on when it was new.

This is what TeaBaggers really believe.

No brains, no headaches I suppose.


Funny. How are regressive taxes helpful to the population at large? Im interested in hearing your answer. So you think its good to tax food, clothes, transportation, you know, to help the little guy out?
 
2012-10-18 04:28:18 PM

special20: Looks like somebody read this handbook:
[i.imgur.com image 708x1064]


You still think there are two parties vying for control. lol. How cute.

G Edward Griffin baby. Youve been had, bamboozled. Your partisan nature ensures your role as a slave , a prole.

No inner party info for you. Guess what, just like in 1984, there is no more than one inner party.

Name a police state with two power structures.
 
2012-10-18 04:49:00 PM
Tom_Slick: Johnnyflash: Hoopy Frood: I feel bad for the g--

in-house financing of 20 to 29 percent

Never mind.

They have nothing on title loans, I know someone who used one and is stuck with 400% interest. The freaking interest alone is like $400 a month! Ahhhh!


While working as a PI I was part of a Forensic Accounting Audit of a Buy Here, Pay Here as part of a divorce proceeding. Title loans are least upfront about screwing you.

Step one: Buy Here Pay Here Business Plan, buy car for $1,000 at auction put car on lot for $7,500 financed over 84 months at 25% interest with $1,000 down.

Step 2 Option A: Repo car 3 months later after collecting $1,000 in payments, sell again for $1,000 down and $7,500 over 84 months.

Step 2 Option B: When car blows engine 3 months later and $1,000 in payments, sell buyer another $1,000 car for $8,500 over 84 months and $500 down.

Step 3: Profit


I have friends who worked for buy her pay here lots just like that, it was mind numbing the practices they used. They would indeed "recycle" these crap cars over and over due to repos. And if it broke down, they would pay for 50% of the inflated repairs from their shop. But their shop never did the job right, ever. Just put a bandage on it and cross their fingers. But either way, they knew they could get away with it. Because the customers thought they had nowhere else to go, let alone the idea just to buy a cheap car for the price of the down payment. I did encounter one "true" buy here pay here lot that actually gave you a good deal. Their financing was truly in house and only involved a service fee. It was a run down building, a fence around the lot, a couple mean dogs, a 12 yo kid with a shotgun hanging out, and they had signs on the walls made from paper plates. It was ridicules, but they gave my bad credit buddy a great deal on a Neon. The car was reliable, he ended up getting it for private party value after the loan was paid. But they also didn't take any crap.
 
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