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(Chicago Trib)   "As Chris Rock would say, if it costs a million dollars to society for every gunshot wound, we ought to charge a tax of a million dollars per bullet." Cook County - where policies based on misquoting Chris Rock's "Bigger & Blacker" gain traction   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 51
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2012-10-18 11:44:06 AM  
I'm currently paying $20/pack here in Aust, so im getting a kick outta..

/oh nevermind.. sigh
 
2012-10-18 01:27:05 PM  
TFA: Preckwinkle, who is presenting her budget today, also wants to charge a new 1.25 percent tax on merchandise worth more than $2,500 purchased outside Cook that's brought into the county.

And just how, pray tell, does she propose to monitor this?

Reading on...

In addition to the new and higher taxes and fees, Preckwinkle also plans to make about $50.7 million in cuts. Those include eliminating 462 jobs, all but 10 of which are now vacant, to save $27 million.

Whodowhatthefark?

Aaaaand rounding it out:


And Preckwinkle also has proposed some lesser new and higher fees to raise about $450,000.

They include:

*Ending building and zoning waiver fees for other governments and non-profit groups and instituting new fees at the morgue, including a $5 charge for each "confirmation of death" letter.

*She also wants to boost the cost of a permit to build on county land near highways and assess fees on oversized trucks.


Cook county ain't the only real estate around, my dear.
 
2012-10-18 02:08:51 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: And just how, pray tell, does she propose to monitor this?


On the CT tax forms, they have a page where you're supposed to list purchases made out of state so you can pay sales tax. There's no mechanism to actually check this, so I shiat you not, they're on the honor system.
 
2012-10-18 02:12:04 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Whodowhatthefark?


That one isn't so weird. My company does something similar.

If someone leaves a job here, their pay and benefits are still factored into the budget, even if the job hasn't been filled, so when it does get filled there's not a sudden budget overrun.
 
2012-10-18 02:31:40 PM  
www.trbimg.com
 
2012-10-18 02:31:44 PM  
Also, there's black people and there's moochers.
 
2012-10-18 02:34:57 PM  
that's quite the stretch....

I believe the quote was "Bullets should cost $5000 each"


Also, taxes on cigarettes ARE a good idea. Packs costing $10-$12 here in Canad are mainly what pushed me to switch the E-cigs.
 
2012-10-18 02:36:10 PM  

Tamater: that's quite the stretch....

I believe the quote was "Bullets should cost $5000 each"


Also, taxes on cigarettes ARE a good idea. Packs costing $10-$12 here in Canada are mainly what pushed me to switch the to E-cigs.


Clearly, nicotine has warped my typing skills.
 
2012-10-18 02:36:15 PM  
Preckwinkle, who is presenting her budget today, also wants to charge a new 1.25 percent tax on merchandise worth more than $2,500 purchased outside Cook that's brought into the county.

Does this ever work?

Is it even legal? I mean I get it for cars because you are going to use their roads when you move there with a car but with TV's or washers?
 
2012-10-18 02:39:39 PM  

liam76: Preckwinkle, who is presenting her budget today, also wants to charge a new 1.25 percent tax on merchandise worth more than $2,500 purchased outside Cook that's brought into the county.

Does this ever work?

Is it even legal? I mean I get it for cars because you are going to use their roads when you move there with a car but with TV's or washers?


Cities and states can't be expected to cut spending. Ever. So the only reasonable solution is to find more shiat to tax. Hopefully they'll never tax "thingy"...

affordablehousinginstitute.org
 
2012-10-18 02:40:25 PM  

GanjSmokr: liam76: Preckwinkle, who is presenting her budget today, also wants to charge a new 1.25 percent tax on merchandise worth more than $2,500 purchased outside Cook that's brought into the county.

Does this ever work?

Is it even legal? I mean I get it for cars because you are going to use their roads when you move there with a car but with TV's or washers?

Cities and states can't be expected to cut spending. Ever. So the only reasonable solution is to find more shiat to tax. Hopefully they'll never tax "thingy"...

[affordablehousinginstitute.org image 320x240]


FTA: "In addition to the new and higher taxes and fees, Preckwinkle also plans to make about $50.7 million in cuts"
 
2012-10-18 02:42:34 PM  

GanjSmokr: Cities and states can't be expected to cut spending. Ever. So the only reasonable solution is to find more shiat to tax. Hopefully they'll never tax "thingy"...


That strawman never stood a chance against your dizzying intellect.
 
2012-10-18 02:44:01 PM  
As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray
 
2012-10-18 02:44:10 PM  
Man, what a prick wrinkle.
 
2012-10-18 02:45:52 PM  

thurstonxhowell: GanjSmokr: Cities and states can't be expected to cut spending. Ever. So the only reasonable solution is to find more shiat to tax. Hopefully they'll never tax "thingy"...

That strawman never stood a chance against your dizzying intellect.


I just wanted to get a Monty Python reference in. "Truthiness" wasn't a priority there.
 
2012-10-18 02:45:55 PM  
Im surprised Chris Rock is hanging from Obama's nuts so hard on Twitter.

Oh wait, no Im not.
 
2012-10-18 02:49:56 PM  

torr5962: Im surprised Chris Rock is hanging from Obama's nuts so hard on Twitter.

Oh wait, no Im not.


Disposable post of the day.
 
2012-10-18 02:49:56 PM  

PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray


Because that would make the inside of their car smell worse....much better to fling the butts at the cars (and motorcycles...*grumble*) behind them.
 
2012-10-18 02:51:20 PM  
Wait, Preckwinkle?

Seriously?

That's almost as bad as Reince Prebus or Dick Armey
 
2012-10-18 02:53:09 PM  

Spartapuss: Also, there's black people and there's moochers.


The moochers have got ta GO! Can't keep a disco open for four weeks! Grand openin'? GRAND WELFARE!
 
2012-10-18 02:54:28 PM  

PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray


1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.
 
2012-10-18 03:14:20 PM  
While I'm in favor of raising cigarette taxes, people with access to transport are just going to drive to Lake, Du Page, Will, Lake (IN), Kane and McHenry Counties for smokes. And people who commute into Chicago are going to bring cigarettes with them. And, you know, smuggling may ensue.
 
2012-10-18 03:22:10 PM  

Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.


If you smoke then you already smell like an ashtray yourself. You may not think so, but you do.
 
2012-10-18 03:37:58 PM  
Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets?
 
2012-10-18 03:38:28 PM  
So how much should a person pay to shoot off a couple of boxes of ammo at paper targets at the shooting range?
 
2012-10-18 03:39:35 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets?


No it only protects the right to pistol whip an assailant.
 
2012-10-18 04:18:39 PM  

Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.


Maybe switch to, oh I don't know..non-filters? Pretty much eliminates the nasty butt problem.
 
2012-10-18 04:21:00 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets cartridges?


Yes.
 
2012-10-18 04:27:14 PM  

Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.


How about this. If you decide to pick up a nasty habit, you have the responsibility to cleanly dispose of your crap.
 
2012-10-18 04:47:50 PM  
www.faecdn.com

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-18 04:53:44 PM  
As Chris Rock would say, if it costs a million dollars to society for every gunshot wound, we ought to charge a tax of a million dollars per bullet."

No Chris. Because %99.99999 of bullets don't hit people. How about charge everyone who illegality shoots another person 1 million dollars?
 
2012-10-18 04:58:02 PM  

pdee: As Chris Rock would say, if it costs a million dollars to society for every gunshot wound, we ought to charge a tax of a million dollars per bullet."

No Chris. Because %99.99999 of bullets don't hit people. How about charge everyone who illegality shoots another person 1 million dollarswith murder?


Even better?
 
2012-10-18 04:58:48 PM  
...how much for one rib?
 
2012-10-18 04:58:59 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: Mike Chewbacca: Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets cartridges?

Yes.


Yes, I know the difference. The headline used bullets so I did, too.

/you're so awesome for "correcting" me!
 
2012-10-18 05:02:09 PM  
The GDs are gonna have to work on their aim.
 
2012-10-18 05:07:17 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Ow! That was my feelings!: Mike Chewbacca: Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets cartridges?

Yes.

Yes, I know the difference. The headline used bullets so I did, too.

/you're so awesome for "correcting" me!


Thanks!  I always knew it, but it's nice to read it.
 
2012-10-18 05:22:51 PM  
"As Chris Rock would say, if it costs a million dollars to society for every gunshot wound, we ought to charge a tax of a million dollars per bullet."

Which might be defensible if every bullet ended up wounding somebody, and every wound cost society a million bucks, neither of which is true.

But I like the precedent. If every gasbag in Congress ends up voting for excess spending of, say, a trillion dollars, then we should subtract that from their pay.
 
2012-10-18 05:36:12 PM  

Ow! That was my feelings!: [www.faecdn.com image 655x397]

[i.imgur.com image 515x719]


No one gives a shiat.
 
2012-10-18 05:44:41 PM  

Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.


Yeah, I have three points in reply:
1 it's still littering
2 it's still littering
3 it's still littering
 
2012-10-18 05:54:27 PM  

poot_rootbeer: ...how much for one rib?



I sure am hungry.
 
2012-10-18 05:58:09 PM  

pdee: As Chris Rock would say, if it costs a million dollars to society for every gunshot wound, we ought to charge a tax of a million dollars per bullet."

No Chris. Because %99.99999 of bullets don't hit people. How about charge everyone who illegality shoots another person 1 million dollars?


Because police departments would go bankrupt.
 
2012-10-18 06:39:29 PM  
As a smoker and motorcycle rider, I think people who throw cigarettes (or anything) out of their windows should be fed to ravenous muskrats. By taking up the habit, we accept that we, and all of our shiat, are going to smell like smoke. If you don't want to embrace that, then just quit.
 
2012-10-18 07:18:28 PM  

PsyLord: Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.

How about this. If you decide to pick up a nasty habit, you have the responsibility to cleanly dispose of your crap.


briefly once upon a time, there were these waxed-paper fold-over pocket kinda thingeys that were free and meant as portable ashtrays. i loved them, and thought them a brilliant solution to the above kind of in-car problems, and outdoor sporting like golf. but i don't see them anymore. if they were sold everywhere smokes were for a quarter or w/e, and people knew about them, i think these problems would alleviate.
 
2012-10-18 08:00:26 PM  
Right, cute joke. And Chris is really funny, no snark. But... Really?

Cue the BLACK market.

/hope Rock would find that funny
 
2012-10-18 08:01:50 PM  
FTFA:

and the higher we increase our cigarette prices the more we discourage particularly young people from smoking and save (ourselves) the cost of treating people who are addicted to tobacco and nicotine for the rest of their lives," Preckwinkle told the Tribune editorial board Wednesday.

Years ago, when they pushed for a ballot initiative here in California to add a huge tax on cigarettes, one of the arguments was the tax revenues would be used to help people quit smoking. The tax passed, so how come all of the options for quiting, nicotine gum, the patch, ecigarettes, cost and arm and a leg?
 
2012-10-18 08:03:38 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets?


Would it make sense for the Constitution to guarantee the free press, but allow the government to outlaw the private ownership of ink?
 
2012-10-18 09:44:24 PM  
farking C(r)ook County, the biggest government welfare organization in America. Think of it as the effectiveness of the Soviet bureaucracy staffed by 10s of THOUSANDS of sassy black nigs.
 
2012-10-18 10:52:53 PM  

rga184: Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.

Yeah, I have three points in reply:
1 it's still littering
2 it's still littering
3 it's still littering


Somebody asked why, I gave a 3 part reply. You sound tense.
 
2012-10-18 10:54:38 PM  

drewogatory: Blue_Blazer: PsyLord: As a non-smoker, I have no problems with this.

/Still can't figure out why smokers flick their ashes/cig butts out their car windows instead of using their car's ashtray

1. Not every car has an ashtray.
2. Nobody wants a smelly ashtray.
3. Maybe if the manufacturers made butts that were more biodegradable, you wouldn't see so many.

Maybe switch to, oh I don't know..non-filters? Pretty much eliminates the nasty butt problem.


Only if you smoke them out of existence. I guess with one of those old-timey cigarette holder thingies it would be possible. Do they still make those?
 
2012-10-19 03:48:17 AM  

OgreMagi: Mike Chewbacca: Does the second amendment protect our right to keep and bear bullets?

Would it make sense for the Constitution to guarantee the free press, but allow the government to outlaw the private ownership of ink?


It makes as much sense as Free Speech Zones, and yet we still have those.
 
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