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(My Fox DC)   Five million dollar lottery winner waits 6 years to cash in his winning ticket because he didn't want his "windfall to influence his engagement and subsequent marriage" or in other words, he wanted to see if his wife was a golddigger   (myfoxdc.com) divider line 73
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2012-10-18 12:29:09 AM

golem222: so he purchased the ticket from his parents store and then waited years to cash it, i wonder if maybe that has something to do with not cashing it. What i am saying is either the ticket was stolen from one of there customers and they waited a long time so it would blow over or they found some way to figure out which tickets are winners.


Oh, well there is your answer. Stole the ticket, waited a long time to cash it so no one else would come forward and contest it.
 
2012-10-18 12:30:31 AM
... or some combination of the above. If the store sold the winning ticket, they received a percentage of the win as a commission... so they knew the winning numbers. Since they run a store that sells lottery, they have access to the lottery paper etc for a good forgery.
 
2012-10-18 12:36:32 AM

Diarrhea Anne Frank: ozarkmatt: KrispyKritter: when i was a young man my goal was to hit the Lottery, buy a huge liquor warehouse and have the windows boarded up so I could drink in peace.

Hell, I want to do that now in a Lowe's or a Home Depot. Just walk around and buy all the cool toys you want. I know most will never be used, but I would have a home workshop that makes Norm Abram look like a pussy.

I'm 33, and if growing "older" has brought me any wisdom at all, they have been in the form of strategies for getting locked into a Toy'r'Us overnight.


*It has.

"IT HAS been in the form of...", not "they have...". Dang it all to gosh. My failure turned a heartfelt expression of my innermost desires turned into a festival of wankpuddery. I feel your pain, Kristen Stewart! I feel it!

(Also if she ever reads this and wants to upgrade "pain" to "boob", I'm up for it. Email is username at gmail. I've got a couch that folds out if the scrawny guy with the hair tags along.)
 
2012-10-18 12:48:38 AM
A smart lottery winner?

I may have become less cynical just now.
 
2012-10-18 01:11:30 AM

leadmetal: puffy999:
I smell some sort of fraudulent activity.

There's only two ways that seem possible.
1) They found a way to read the tickets without scratching them off.
2) A customer won and brought it back to the store, they stole it from the customer, and the customer never complained about it.

I find both of these highly unlikely.


Uhh...you might be surprised at how often clerks cheat drunks and stoners out of big prizes. Happens every day in every city. Drunks & stoners are usually happy to get $50 and walk away with no memory of it.
 
2012-10-18 01:17:01 AM
k.. sorry dont mean to ramble here, but I enjoy the mental exercise. If you have a lottery machine in your possession, any hacker worth his salt can get into it and make it do what you want. I have experience reverse engineering electronics... obviously the machine has an alarm mechanism on it, but I'd be willing to bet good money that its a simple switch on the case so when you try to open the service door or slide the case open, it trips. So you cut into the side of the machine, disable the security mechanism, then access the electronics to print your new ticket. Once completed, you machine yourself a replacement case, and put it back together.. and no one would ever know. Assuming you didnt just forge an authentic service key or tool.

Anything can be hacked. Anything.

If they get away with it.. my (black) hat is off to them.
 
2012-10-18 01:17:41 AM
Oh, it was a scratch off? fark. Well I just wasted my time.. hahah.
 
2012-10-18 01:30:00 AM

BMFPitt: I thought lottery tickets expired after a year?


Reading the article always helps.
 
2012-10-18 01:39:40 AM
Work counter at parents store.
Check ticket from elderly customer.
Tell them. "Oh... sorry. No winner this time Harold. Thank you, come again."
Put 5 million dollar ticket in safe deposit box.
Wait 5 years for Harold to die and /or completely forget about ticket.
Profit.

/Senanigans
 
2012-10-18 02:05:21 AM

reported: ....
I agree... they don't seem like the type to blow the money on customized double-wides with gold fixtures and Lamborghinis with rebel flag paint jobs. Actually they may be better off getting the money now than in 2006. At the time, the hot investment was sub-prime mortgage derivatives (and we all know how well that turned out).



I know what I want for Christmas!!!!

www.mileanhour.com 

/hot like Daisy's shorts!
 
2012-10-18 02:20:04 AM
FTFA. Brothers 6 million dollar winnings is the top prize of a scratch off game that was sold for several years. Unlike dated lottery games such as lotto, Mega Millions, Powerball, scratch off tickets are valid to cash in for a year after sales of a scratch off game terminates. It's hard to believe but brothers claim they bought ticket six years ago and waited one year after scratch off sales ended. Game terminated in March, 2011 and brothers cashed in ticket in March, 2012. It took several months for State Lottery Commission to investigate the sale of this ticket because brother bought ticket from their parents convenience store.

There are several aspects of the story that are difficult to believe. Unless someone is Donald Trump or a Rockefeller, hard to believe someone could wait 6 years to cash in a six million dollar winning ticket. Also fact that brothers' parents sold them the ticket sounds a little fishy
 
2012-10-18 05:43:58 AM

FirstNationalBastard: So, he just postponed the inevitable divorce and her trying to take all his money for six years.


Gig103:
Yeah the difference is that if she IS a gold-digger, now she is legally entitled to half as joint property. If he had cashed it single he could have protected it.

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"Congratulations, you're she's the first to survive the audition."


Did you guys not WATCH "Coming to America"? If she sticks around through a half-decade of American lower-middle class living and probably having to work more than a few shifts at the family convenience store, she's probably not a "gold-digger". That's the whole point.

/hopes these brothers are on the up-and-up, it's a good story
 
2012-10-18 07:29:33 AM

ThatDarkFellow: So you can claim a ticket after 6 years and have a relative sell you the winning ticket?

/that makes a lot of sense
//in texas if you are related to anyone involved in the lottery you are barred from playing. if you don't claim your prize within the allotted amount of time then you're SOL.


YEE HAW!!!!

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2012-10-18 09:51:46 AM

FirstNationalBastard: So, he just postponed the inevitable divorce and her trying to take all his money for six years.


Done in one.
 
2012-10-18 10:33:24 AM

leadmetal: puffy999:
I smell some sort of fraudulent activity.

There's only two ways that seem possible.
1) They found a way to read the tickets without scratching them off.
2) A customer won and brought it back to the store, they stole it from the customer, and the customer never complained about it.

I find both of these highly unlikely.


What you do as a store clerk is whenever a person buys something that isn't tracked (say candy bars) you ring them up as lottery tickets. Manually punch it into the register instead of scanning it. Then you help yourself to the lottery tickets and turn in the winners. The store's inventory tracking shows the tickets as legitimately bought and as long as you don't get greedy, the loss of the candy bars isn't noticed.
 
2012-10-18 11:24:45 AM
You guys conspiracy theorizing do know that the lottery commission's investigation likely did cover everything that you guys might think up right? They have a financial incentive not to pay out if they don't have to after all. They didn't find anything, give it a break.
 
2012-10-18 11:29:19 AM
I think they ripped off an old person of the ticket and that old person just died, so they can cash in the ticket. I have a feeling we will see more on this story in the future. (cynical, I know).
 
2012-10-18 12:47:37 PM

ThatDarkFellow: So you can claim a ticket after 6 years and have a relative sell you the winning ticket?


according to the article, the state's rules allow scratch tickets to be claimed upto a year after the game is discontinued. this one was discontinued in 2011, so they couldn't sit on it any longer. state rule also has the commission investigate if the winner is related to the store owner, and like the article stated at the end, determined it was legitimate.

/how are there so many comments asking questions the article already addressed?
 
2012-10-18 02:43:55 PM
Oh yeah, this is fraud!

Customer brought ticket into store 6 years ago, store owner (mom or dad) scans it, "sorry not a winner, want me throw away for you?"

Hold the ticket for as long as possible and cash in just short of expiration. I'm certain of this.
 
2012-10-18 02:50:24 PM
...AND my comment was number 69 so i'm REALLY certain of this!
 
2012-10-18 05:10:49 PM

leadmetal: puffy999:
I smell some sort of fraudulent activity.

There's only two ways that seem possible.
1) They found a way to read the tickets without scratching them off.
2) A customer won and brought it back to the store, they stole it from the customer, and the customer never complained about it.

I find both of these highly unlikely.


Actually, the second one is kinda what I was thinking.

(don't have the link), but I remember a story a while back where a customer had been coming in for years to the same store and instead of checking his tickets himself, he would hand them over to the cashier to see what he had won.

Long story short, the cashier told him he didn't win anything that day and tried to cash in on a prize worth millions of dollars.

Since they waited so long to cash these in, I would think this is a possibility here. For someone who comes into their store and does this, they can't possibly remember (or know) if this happened to them more than 5 years ago. If it was an old person, they might have died of old age already. Even if a regular customer realized/suspects they did this to them... No one will believe them after 5 years or so has passed.
 
2012-10-18 07:44:45 PM
I am pretty damn sure that every multi-million dollar winner is investigated and that if the circumstances are unusual they really get investigated.

Criminals usually don't don't wait six years to cash something in anyways. People with that kind of patience and the ability to defer gratification are far less likely than average to engage in criminal activity.


So I suspect fraud is unlikely. Admittedly I can't rule it out. But then again I can't rule out that Subby is a mass murder. But until thing called "evidence" comes up, he and lottery-winning couple are entitled to the right not to be treated as criminals.
 
2012-10-18 08:09:07 PM

TheMysteriousStranger: I am pretty damn sure that every multi-million dollar winner is investigated and that if the circumstances are unusual they really get investigated.


True, but unless there's someone to complain that they were robbed and who can make a good case for it, there's only so much "investigation" the lottery commission can do - lottery tickets are only one small step above bearer bonds in that regard.

Still, I agree that there's no reason to assume (much less assert) that there's anything nefarious about this lottery win.
 
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