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(WWSB ABC 7)   Mother good: takes teen daughter to Orlando for the weekend. Mother bad: leaves behind a 10-year-old, 3-year-old, and bed-ridden elderly woman to fend for themselves in a filthy house (with pics)   (mysuncoast.com) divider line 23
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2012-10-17 11:10:47 PM  
5 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: So the 10 year old isn't mature enough to take care of things when mom's away for a couple days?

I'd leave my kid (7) at home for a couple days if I had to. He can cook for himself, clean up after himself, and knows the necessary phone numbers to call in case of an emergency. If his grandparents lived with us, he could take care of them too (he already does when we visit them).

Parents should be able to determine whether or not kids are old enough to stay home alone, not nosy do-gooders.


If a 10-year-old doesn't know how to use a can opener, she's not immature; she hasn't been taught a basic life skill by a mom who obviously doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself.
2012-10-17 11:19:35 PM  
3 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: buckler: AverageAmericanGuy: So the 10 year old isn't mature enough to take care of things when mom's away for a couple days?
I'd leave my kid (7) at home for a couple days if I had to. He can cook for himself, clean up after himself, and knows the necessary phone numbers to call in case of an emergency. If his grandparents lived with us, he could take care of them too (he already does when we visit them).
Parents should be able to determine whether or not kids are old enough to stay home alone, not nosy do-gooders.
If a 10-year-old doesn't know how to use a can opener, she's not immature; she hasn't been taught a basic life skill by a mom who obviously doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself.
My kid doesn't know how to use a can opener. We only use fresh organic produce and anti-biotic free meats in our kitchen. We don't use anything canned or in a tube or frozen.
I'm not saying this woman is like me, but there might be more to the story than meets the eye.



Do you also have to be to the gym in 26 minutes?
cuz you kind of sound like a douche.
Teach your kid to use a can opener already.
Might save their life someday.
2012-10-17 11:11:58 PM  
3 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: So the 10 year old isn't mature enough to take care of things when mom's away for a couple days?

I'd leave my kid (7) at home for a couple days if I had to. He can cook for himself, clean up after himself, and knows the necessary phone numbers to call in case of an emergency. If his grandparents lived with us, he could take care of them too (he already does when we visit them).

Parents should be able to determine whether or not kids are old enough to stay home alone, not nosy do-gooders.


FTA: "Detectives found a can of tomato soup on the kitchen counter that had multiple punch marks trying to open it. The 10 year old said she didn't know how to use a can opener; she also said she tried to cook spaghetti but couldn't find what she needed. "

FTA: "The sheriff's office received a call Sunday evening from a neighbor after one of Warner's other daughters, a 10-year-old, came to her home saying she was hungry. " 

Your 7 year old has a much, much more responsible parent than this 10 year old has. In this case, the 10 year old needed that nosy do gooder and in fact went asked for help. A very 'YMMV' moment, especially when children are involved.
2012-10-17 11:34:37 PM  
2 votes:

Farklee: Am I racist because I was surprised the mom was white?


Why would ethnicity occur to anyone reading this story? The squalor just is what it is.
2012-10-17 11:19:56 PM  
2 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: My kid doesn't know how to use a can opener. We only use fresh organic produce and anti-biotic free meats in our kitchen. We don't use anything canned or in a tube or frozen.

I'm not saying this woman is like me, but there might be more to the story than meets the eye.


Well, I certainly won't put you down, but from the article, it's obvious they had canned goods lying around, in which case the kid should know how to use the food-obtaining machine.
2012-10-17 11:16:10 PM  
2 votes:
I think it is really awful that she has depression that causes her an inability to clean up the house. I think taxpayers should fork over enough money to get her a maid. Of course, in a society as wealthy is ours, it really should be a fundamental right for her to not have a dirty house. So I advocate the buying of a new house for her every time hers gets dirty. It's not her kids' fault the house is dirty. And it clearly isn't her fault.

And now we have both parents in jail, and it's really a shame that the kids have to be put through that, and the parents have to have no kids that grew up without parents in jail. So I think the taxpayers should fork over enough money so that this couple can have some more kids, and give them enough money that it is no burden for them to raise the kids. Everyone should be allowed to raise kids who don't have parents in jail. In fact, it should be a fundamental right.
2012-10-17 08:39:12 PM  
2 votes:
As an Orlando resident, I'd like to correct part of that headline. The part where the mom taking the daughter to Orlando is considered "good". It's still hot as hell here, Halloween Horror Nights is OK but expensive when you factor in parking, food, and vaccinations, and the roads are approximately as safe as kicking roadside debris in Afghanistan.

That being said, I've also lived fairly close to Port Charlotte, and I suppose it's just about a wash. Could have been worse. Could have been Englewood.
2012-10-18 12:59:00 AM  
1 votes:

poe_zlaw: Can someone please explain to me why it is not extremely rare to find a set of humans who willfully live in a house like that? What the fusk is it that allows a human brain to find that acceptable? Why is that easier than just taking out the trash?. I could have that place looking 100 times better in just 10 minutes by throwing 99% of the crap away. WHY CANT THEY DO THAT? HOW CAN AN ENTIRE HOUSE OF PEOPLE DECIDE ITS OKAY TO LIVE AMONGST FILTH?


Drug Addiction, ie: alcoholism, and the cycle of mental illness involved.
2012-10-18 12:37:29 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: So the 10 year old isn't mature enough to take care of things when mom's away for a couple days?

I'd leave my kid (7) at home for a couple days if I had to. He can cook for himself, clean up after himself, and knows the necessary phone numbers to call in case of an emergency. If his grandparents lived with us, he could take care of them too (he already does when we visit them).

Parents should be able to determine whether or not kids are old enough to stay home alone, not nosy do-gooders.


Just so we're clear here - the house looks like that and you're blaming the ten-year-old for not being mature enough to take care of things while Mom's away?
2012-10-18 12:02:07 AM  
1 votes:

Farklee: Am I racist because I was surprised the mom was white?


Probably.

I don't watch Hoarders regularly, but I'll stream a bit on Netflix when I feel unmotivated to clean up. Those people always seem to be white.
2012-10-17 11:48:19 PM  
1 votes:
I agree with you, Farklee. Perhaps it's the fact that it happened in South Dakota circa 1990. They're about 30 years behind the rest of the country.
2012-10-17 11:47:17 PM  
1 votes:

Farklee: Would this even be a story if the filthy-mom lived alone and didn't leave kids and grandma to rot? You get my point now?


People get reported to cops all the time for hoarding and filth regardless if they have kids or not. The neighborhood starts to smell. And the kids/grandma neglect thing---what about that suggests any particular ethinicity? I'm not aware of some ethnic stereotype about neglect. Now socioeconomic CLASS stereotyping, sure. But not racial or ethnic.
2012-10-17 11:41:33 PM  
1 votes:

EmmaLou: My aunt and cousins used to live in a house like that. I don't know what this chick's problem is, but my aunt was an alcoholic and drug addict. My mom called CPS on multiple occasions, and they actually went there and didn't take the kids away.

My aunt went to jail for a month, and left the kids (12, 11, and 9) some money and told them not to tell anyone. (It was summer.) One of them came to our house and just didn't go home...which happened a lot, so we didn't think anything of it.

For awhile there, they had chickens running around the house, and then there was the time that one of the kids brought home a pair of rats which multiplied. The oldest took a gun to them to get to his bedroom, which had become overrun by said rats while he was in reform school. 

They condemned the house after they moved.




Gotcha, the second half was kinda over the top....it's all good.
2012-10-17 11:37:17 PM  
1 votes:

Farklee: EmmaLou: My aunt and cousins used to live in a house like that. I don't know what this chick's problem is, but my aunt was an alcoholic and drug addict. My mom called CPS on multiple occasions, and they actually went there and didn't take the kids away.

My aunt went to jail for a month, and left the kids (12, 11, and 9) some money and told them not to tell anyone. (It was summer.) One of them came to our house and just didn't go home...which happened a lot, so we didn't think anything of it.

For awhile there, they had chickens running around the house, and then there was the time that one of the kids brought home a pair of rats which multiplied. The oldest took a gun to them to get to his bedroom, which had become overrun by said rats while he was in reform school. 

They condemned the house after they moved.

Nice story...Lemme guess, 1948?


I wish it was a story.
2012-10-17 11:37:11 PM  
1 votes:

Farklee: Am I racist because I was surprised the mom was white?


No, you're just an innocent victim of the racists who promulgate such stereotypes.
2012-10-17 11:35:43 PM  
1 votes:

EmmaLou: My aunt and cousins used to live in a house like that. I don't know what this chick's problem is, but my aunt was an alcoholic and drug addict. My mom called CPS on multiple occasions, and they actually went there and didn't take the kids away.

My aunt went to jail for a month, and left the kids (12, 11, and 9) some money and told them not to tell anyone. (It was summer.) One of them came to our house and just didn't go home...which happened a lot, so we didn't think anything of it.

For awhile there, they had chickens running around the house, and then there was the time that one of the kids brought home a pair of rats which multiplied. The oldest took a gun to them to get to his bedroom, which had become overrun by said rats while he was in reform school. 

They condemned the house after they moved.


Nice story...Lemme guess, 1948?
2012-10-17 11:32:30 PM  
1 votes:
My aunt and cousins used to live in a house like that. I don't know what this chick's problem is, but my aunt was an alcoholic and drug addict. My mom called CPS on multiple occasions, and they actually went there and didn't take the kids away.

My aunt went to jail for a month, and left the kids (12, 11, and 9) some money and told them not to tell anyone. (It was summer.) One of them came to our house and just didn't go home...which happened a lot, so we didn't think anything of it.

For awhile there, they had chickens running around the house, and then there was the time that one of the kids brought home a pair of rats which multiplied. The oldest took a gun to them to get to his bedroom, which had become overrun by said rats while he was in reform school. 

They condemned the house after they moved.
2012-10-17 11:21:36 PM  
1 votes:

SevenizGud: I think it is really awful that she has depression that causes her an inability to clean up the house. I think taxpayers should fork over enough money to get her a maid. Of course, in a society as wealthy is ours, it really should be a fundamental right for her to not have a dirty house. So I advocate the buying of a new house for her every time hers gets dirty. It's not her kids' fault the house is dirty. And it clearly isn't her fault.

And now we have both parents in jail, and it's really a shame that the kids have to be put through that, and the parents have to have no kids that grew up without parents in jail. So I think the taxpayers should fork over enough money so that this couple can have some more kids, and give them enough money that it is no burden for them to raise the kids. Everyone should be allowed to raise kids who don't have parents in jail. In fact, it should be a fundamental right.



Geez, I can almost hear you sniffing that glue.
2012-10-17 11:15:41 PM  
1 votes:
I can sympathize a bit. Last year I left my 4 year old and 1 year old behind while I took my 12 year old nieces to Disneyland instead. (But I left them with their mom and fully abled grandparents.)
2012-10-17 11:11:24 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: So the 10 year old isn't mature enough to take care of things when mom's away for a couple days?

I'd leave my kid (7) at home for a couple days if I had to. He can cook for himself, clean up after himself, and knows the necessary phone numbers to call in case of an emergency. If his grandparents lived with us, he could take care of them too (he already does when we visit them).

Parents should be able to determine whether or not kids are old enough to stay home alone, not nosy do-gooders.


I've had it up to here with your kind and your common sense, perhaps more honey boo boo and the kardashian's, and less book readin' might straighten you out.
2012-10-17 11:08:52 PM  
1 votes:
Can someone please explain to me why it is not extremely rare to find a set of humans who willfully live in a house like that? What the fusk is it that allows a human brain to find that acceptable? Why is that easier than just taking out the trash?. I could have that place looking 100 times better in just 10 minutes by throwing 99% of the crap away. WHY CANT THEY DO THAT? HOW CAN AN ENTIRE HOUSE OF PEOPLE DECIDE ITS OKAY TO LIVE AMONGST FILTH?
2012-10-17 11:06:32 PM  
1 votes:
So the 10 year old isn't mature enough to take care of things when mom's away for a couple days?

I'd leave my kid (7) at home for a couple days if I had to. He can cook for himself, clean up after himself, and knows the necessary phone numbers to call in case of an emergency. If his grandparents lived with us, he could take care of them too (he already does when we visit them).

Parents should be able to determine whether or not kids are old enough to stay home alone, not nosy do-gooders.
2012-10-17 09:04:22 PM  
1 votes:
In her defense, Halloween Horror Nights at Universal is awesome. Definitely the best of any park in the area.
 
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