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(Yahoo)   NCAA responds to New Jersey's plan to legalize gambling by pulling swimming and diving and lower division volleyball and lacrosse, irrevocably crippling the local economy. That'll show 'em   (sports.yahoo.com) divider line 16
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2012-10-17 05:58:30 PM
Oh no, betting on sports.

How on earth are we to protect the sanctity of college athletics?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 06:18:18 PM
A showdown between a permissive state law and a federal ban. It's like a boring version of the medical marijuana fight.
 
2012-10-17 06:36:36 PM

ZAZ: A showdown between a permissive state law and a federal ban. It's like a boring version of the medical marijuana fight.


Even better--I thought New Jersey was one of the states that reserved the right to have sports gambling before the ban became effective.
 
2012-10-17 06:38:56 PM

NotEric: Oh no, betting on sports.

How on earth are we to protect the sanctity of college athletics?


We're a nation that perceives gambling as a "sin". If you look around the world, there are casinos and betting sites sponsoring local teams...while we can't even get a team into Las Vegas because of our prudish behavior towards gambling. (Never mind that the guy that really really wants us to bomb Iran like the fundies want made his billions in the Vegas casino industry.)
 
2012-10-17 06:45:35 PM

ZAZ: A showdown between a permissive state law and a federal ban. It's like a boring version of the medical marijuana fight.


Boring? This would be awesome. Id love to have betting shops like in the UK. I may have to reconsider my feelings toward Christie.
 
2012-10-17 07:19:51 PM
I'll bet you this doesn't last long once UNLV and Nevada-Reno are pointed out and the NJ AG files his motion.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 08:10:57 PM
I thought New Jersey was one of the states that reserved the right to have sports gambling before the ban became effective.

If you believe Wikipedia, New Jersey missed its chance to get in before the ban.
 
2012-10-17 09:09:42 PM
The NCAA cited its policy of not staging any part of a national tournament in a state with "single-game betting." [New Jersey, like Nevada, could still host conference tournaments and bowl games.]

It is a policy that was in place before the decision to legalize gambling. Non story.
 
2012-10-17 10:16:37 PM

JolobinSmokin: I'll bet you this doesn't last long once UNLV and Nevada-Reno are pointed out and the NJ AG files his motion.


Until 2002, the state of Nevada prohibited betting on any team in the state. About a dozen variations of "NCAA policy towards sports betting in nevada" yielded nothing except the same three AP/reuters articles on every news site.
 
2012-10-17 11:43:46 PM

JolobinSmokin: I'll bet you this doesn't last long once UNLV and Nevada-Reno are pointed out and the NJ AG files his motion.


What does this matter? The ban is for hosting championships - and Nevada doesn't. This actually is going to hit in about a month - Rowan University in Glassboro is one of the better D-III football teams and per this ruling, they aren't allowed to host playoff games. They could be top 5 in the nation and they'd still have to go on the road for the postseason.
 
2012-10-17 11:58:59 PM
I remember when Vegas couldn't even post lines for any college team from South Carolina.
 
2012-10-18 12:19:48 AM

ZAZ: I thought New Jersey was one of the states that reserved the right to have sports gambling before the ban became effective.

If you believe Wikipedia, New Jersey missed its chance to get in before the ban.


The New Jersey legislature, in its usual bumbling fashion, was so busy debating, arguing, and making deals over the various control issues and pork items that they wanted attached to the original law, that they totally forgot to get the main part finished and submitted before the deadline. Essentially, some people wanted some of the betting income to go to education (more specifically, politically-connected administrators or building contractors), some wanted it go to a "city improvement fund" or to the transportation trust fund (read: some revenue bucket that they could freely dip into whenever they wanted), some were more focused on making sure there was some sort of sports gambling commission, separate from both the existing gambling commission and the NJ Sports and Entertainment Authority, in place (ie. more room to hire more political donors into high-salary, cushy, no-show jobs payed for by the public), some would only agree to vote yes if some huge, non-related, pet project was approved and fully funded, etc.
 
2012-10-18 02:56:06 AM

Joe_diGriz: ZAZ: I thought New Jersey was one of the states that reserved the right to have sports gambling before the ban became effective.

If you believe Wikipedia, New Jersey missed its chance to get in before the ban.

The New Jersey legislature, in its usual bumbling fashion, was so busy debating, arguing, and making deals over the various control issues and pork items that they wanted attached to the original law, that they totally forgot to get the main part finished and submitted before the deadline. Essentially, some people wanted some of the betting income to go to education (more specifically, politically-connected administrators or building contractors), some wanted it go to a "city improvement fund" or to the transportation trust fund (read: some revenue bucket that they could freely dip into whenever they wanted), some were more focused on making sure there was some sort of sports gambling commission, separate from both the existing gambling commission and the NJ Sports and Entertainment Authority, in place (ie. more room to hire more political donors into high-salary, cushy, no-show jobs payed for by the public), some would only agree to vote yes if some huge, non-related, pet project was approved and fully funded, etc.


Actually, that's the version they would like to have you believe...this was suppose to be a ballot question during the Governors' election in the early nineties. It was delayed on purpose by the Republicans to keep voter turnout down in the inner cites (likely Democratic voters). Polls showed it would have passed in a landslide.

That's how we got stuck with the mess that was Christine Todd Whitman...NJ still hasn't recovered from her.

Another fine example of politics being put ahead of the people.
 
2012-10-18 06:18:34 AM

Joe_diGriz: ZAZ: I thought New Jersey was one of the states that reserved the right to have sports gambling before the ban became effective.

If you believe Wikipedia, New Jersey missed its chance to get in before the ban.

The New Jersey legislature, in its usual bumbling fashion, was so busy debating, arguing, and making deals over the various control issues and pork items that they wanted attached to the original law, that they totally forgot to get the main part finished and submitted before the deadline. Essentially, some people wanted some of the betting income to go to education (more specifically, politically-connected administrators or building contractors), some wanted it go to a "city improvement fund" or to the transportation trust fund (read: some revenue bucket that they could freely dip into whenever they wanted), some were more focused on making sure there was some sort of sports gambling commission, separate from both the existing gambling commission and the NJ Sports and Entertainment Authority, in place (ie. more room to hire more political donors into high-salary, cushy, no-show jobs payed for by the public), some would only agree to vote yes if some huge, non-related, pet project was approved and fully funded, etc.


Joe understands the New Jersey condition really well. Jebus man, you could teach a course.
 
2012-10-19 01:48:25 AM

JolobinSmokin: I'll bet you this doesn't last long once UNLV and Nevada-Reno are pointed out and the NJ AG files his motion.


Also, the Las Vegas Bowl.
 
2012-10-19 07:50:58 AM
They pulled this same stuff with delaware. The penalty by the NCAA is childish.
 
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