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(CNN) NewsFlash Obama administration prevents terror attack at Federal Reserve Bank. Romney to blame Obama for not calling it a terror attack soon enough. RON PAUL to blame Obama for interfering   (news.blogs.cnn.com) divider line 99
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2012-10-17 04:30:26 PM  
10 votes:
The defendant thought he was striking a blow to the American economy. He thought he was directing confederates and fellow believers. At every turn, he was wrong, and his extensive efforts to strike at the heart of the nation's financial system were foiled by effective law enforcement

Translation: "We trolled this stupid loser mofo for all he was worth. He fell for the whole thing from start to finish."
2012-10-17 04:21:07 PM  
7 votes:
The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.
2012-10-17 05:26:25 PM  
6 votes:

Treygreen13: The FBI is now the Obama Administration?


Only when they fail, then its all Obama administrations direct and personal fault.

In a case like this where they succeeded though, its just the plain old FBI. Its also at that point just Obama taking credit for other peoples work.

/see, I am slowly learning how to 'think' like a Republican.
2012-10-17 05:24:41 PM  
6 votes:
Oh great another one of these busts where the FBI plant starts asking who wants to blow stuff up. Some guy says yes so the FBI says well I know a guy that can build the bomb for you, lets get this ball rolling. Chances are on his own this would NOT have happened. If you need help being a terrorist then maybe terror is not for you.
2012-10-17 04:22:18 PM  
5 votes:
I would think Paul would blame the Federal Reserve for existing.
2012-10-17 05:25:37 PM  
4 votes:
Funny how all these terrorist attacks that get thwarted end up being some schlub the FBI conned into buying fake explosives and pressing a button. Seems to happen every time citizens get uppity about sacrificing more and more individual freedoms in the name of security. The real disturbing question here, is when people stop buying into the soft scare tactics, are they going to let one of these go further to keep us ducking for cover?
2012-10-17 05:21:24 PM  
4 votes:
The FBI is now the Obama Administration?
2012-10-17 06:32:44 PM  
3 votes:

astouffer: Some guy says yes so the FBI says well I know a guy that can build the bomb for you, lets get this ball rolling.



If you would RTFA you'd know that the guy built the bomb. All he needed help with was getting a hold of the explosive materials. He put the bomb together. He parked it in a van outside the Fed. He recorded a video talking about why he was doing it. He then tried to set it off.

All this @sshole needed was the explosives part. If he hadn't stumbled into an FBI informant, he probably would have succeeded. So fark him and good for the FBI. It's also a bonus to national security for these d!ckheads to be scared shiatless that the dude they met at their neighborhood mosque might be on the FBI's payroll. Kind of makes it hard to put this shiat together.
2012-10-17 05:47:08 PM  
3 votes:
Thank you FBI for protecting us from another terrorist plot that you created!
2012-10-17 05:32:15 PM  
3 votes:
The Fed? Terror attack, or public service. You decide.
2012-10-17 05:31:13 PM  
3 votes:
Politics aside, a sincere thank you to all the men and women who work their asses of to make sure people don't get killed. These people are true farking heros.
2012-10-17 05:26:50 PM  
3 votes:

Treygreen13: The FBI is now the Obama Administration?


I see your point, which is why I don't understand the "Libya scandal" in the first place. However, do you actually think people would not have blamed Obama, if this bombing wasn't thwarted ?
2012-10-17 05:25:49 PM  
3 votes:
When the pair arrived at the warehouse, Nafis began putting together what he thought was a 1,000-pound bomb inside the van. Then they drove together to the target: The New York Federal Reserve Bank. As they drove, he armed the purported by putting together the detonator and the explosives, the criminal complaint says.

The van was then parked next to the bank. The pair went to a nearby hotel, where Nafis apparently recorded a video statement meant to be shown to the American public in connection with the attack.

"We will not stop until we attain victory or martyrdom," he said, according to the criminal complaint.

He then tried, several times unsuccessfully, to detonate the device, which was actually inert explosives.

Nafis was then arrested.


This is like Chris Hansen telling you to bring condoms and Smirnoff Ice with you to the 12 year old girl's house. You just shot reasonable doubt in the head and are now throwing grenades at your entrapment and coercion defense.
2012-10-17 07:26:06 PM  
2 votes:
Liberal Fascism smells like Conservative fascism.

demonocracy.info


122.1 Trillion Dollars

$122,100,000,000,000. - US unfunded liabilities by Dec 31, 2012.
Abovet you can see the pillar of cold hard $100 bills that dwarfs the
WTC & Empire State Building - both at one point world's tallest buildings.
If you look carefully you can see the Statue of Liberty.

The 122.1 Trillion dollar super-skyscraper wall is the amount of money the U.S. Government
knows it does not have to fully fund the Medicare, Medicare Prescription Drug Program,
Social Security, Military and civil servant pensions. It is the money USA knows it will not
have to pay all its bills.
If you live in USA this is also your personal credit card bill; you are responsible along with
everyone else to pay this back. The citizens of USA created the U.S. Government to serve
them, this is what the U.S. Government has done while serving The People.

The unfunded liability is calculated on current tax and funding inputs, and future demographic
shifts in US Population.

Note: On the above 122.1T image the size of the bases of the money stacks are $10 billion, and 400 stories @ $4 trillion

"It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world." - Thomas Jefferson

Everyone needs to see this.

Source: Federal Reserve & www.USdebtclock.org - visit it to see the debt in real time and get a better grasp of this amazing number.


Above graphic and info found at http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/us_debt/us_debt.html
2012-10-17 06:46:09 PM  
2 votes:
I'm far more scared of the DoJ, FBI, DEA, etc etc than I am of any terrorist.
2012-10-17 06:32:19 PM  
2 votes:
While it is, indeed, a very strange moment to try and do this, it is also the most fortuitous, if it would've performed right.

Imagine the unbelievable shiatstorm it would've become if the bomb would've blown up: First off, there goes the election for Obama; second, there would be panic in the streets because people would actually be too afraid to vote.

If anything, it was the good timing to sow chaos.
2012-10-17 05:49:49 PM  
2 votes:
Wait. If you wanted to "strike at the heart of the nation's financial system", why would you blow up the FED? Aren't they doing a good enough job at it?
2012-10-17 05:49:30 PM  
2 votes:

Spaced Cowboy: bhcompy: 12349876: bhcompy: It wasn't really prevention. This guy was given a fake bomb to "detonate" to prove guilt. It would be prevention if the FBI Jack Bauer'd the bomb with 3 seconds left.

If the government didn't find him and troll him, he might have been able to get a real one through some other means.

We'll never know, will we.

/of course the justice system will be okay with this bit of entrapment because who the fark needs civil liberties

Yeah, the oh so important civil liberty of being able to buy explosives and try to blow shiat up. That's a real farking keeper for a free society. Woe is me at the loss of such liberty.

Oddly enough, you still have the freedom to not blow things up. This comes with the added benefit of not going to jail for attempting to blow shiat up. Yay freedom!


The price of liberty is that bad people have an easier opportunity to do bad things. I'm okay with that price. Hell, the founders of this nation were, too.
2012-10-17 05:48:03 PM  
2 votes:
This thread proves there is no crime in existence that some Farker won't call either 1) entrapment or 2) thoughtcrime. It should get its own name, like Godwin's Law or Poe's Law or Cole's Law.
2012-10-17 05:43:18 PM  
2 votes:
Someone needs to cross reference the comments here with the ones from this thread in 2008 just to point out how full of shiat some of you people are.
2012-10-17 05:35:49 PM  
2 votes:
I'm an Obama fan and I think the Libya comment from last night was out of line, but let's not say Obama prevented this attack. Obama gave the final approval for the bin Laden mission and he can take credit for that. Here it was the FBI and NYPD doing a good job and catching these guys before they have the chance to do anything on US soil.

They probably don't hear that very much, so let me say it again. Good job, FBI and NYPD. Thanks for all the work you do to stop guys like this.
2012-10-17 05:28:29 PM  
2 votes:
fark you and all of your bullshiat partisanship.
2012-10-17 05:27:10 PM  
2 votes:

uncleacid: The Feds supplied him with everything. Story over.


I got no problem with that. If you're stupid enough to embark on such a mission you should end up in jail. Especially since this isn't the first time the FBI "tricked" these sovreign citizens to try to put in practice what they spend hours every day sprewing on the internet.
2012-10-17 05:26:46 PM  
2 votes:
Modern day Guy Fawkes

We should celebrate it every year by blowing stuff up.

Nothing says "party" like a failed bombing attempt at big money and power.
2012-10-17 05:26:17 PM  
2 votes:

Treygreen13: The FBI is now the Obama Administration?


yup, the president has control over gas prices but not the FBI

/this is what republicans believe....unless the FBI screws up, then its obamas fault
2012-10-17 05:26:12 PM  
2 votes:
You asked for miracles, Theo, I give you the FBI.
2012-10-17 05:24:03 PM  
2 votes:
The Feds supplied him with everything. Story over.
2012-10-17 05:23:34 PM  
2 votes:
It wasn't really prevention. This guy was given a fake bomb to "detonate" to prove guilt. It would be prevention if the FBI Jack Bauer'd the bomb with 3 seconds left.
2012-10-17 05:21:02 PM  
2 votes:

hatelabs: The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.


Maybe the Republicans staged it so that it looked like the liberals staged it.
2012-10-18 12:24:57 PM  
1 votes:

astouffer: Oh great another one of these busts where the FBI plant starts asking who wants to blow stuff up. Some guy says yes so the FBI says well I know a guy that can build the bomb for you, lets get this ball rolling. Chances are on his own this would NOT have happened. If you need help being a terrorist then maybe terror is not for you.


He didn't build that?
2012-10-17 11:27:28 PM  
1 votes:

hairywoogit: This is essentially why terrorists don't really scare me. The vast majority of them are uneducated idiots. The really smart ones direct the idiots, and end up with Bond-Villain-esque results half the time.


QFT

I travel for work and I make it a point to fly on Sep 11. Why? Because I'm not afraid of a bunch of guys that can't blow their own underwear up
2012-10-17 09:54:20 PM  
1 votes:

sweet jeez: Why dosent obamada just run on his record ..........o yea about that


yes-and my retirement fund is doing much better as a result.

and when your done you can blame the liberal media, gays, immigrants, global warming, a hairy ass, and 180 degree index finger that can't point the right way.
2012-10-17 09:01:45 PM  
1 votes:

LoneVVolf: Funny how all these terrorist attacks that get thwarted end up being some schlub the FBI conned into buying fake explosives and pressing a button. Seems to happen every time citizens get uppity about sacrificing more and more individual freedoms in the name of security. The real disturbing question here, is when people stop buying into the soft scare tactics, are they going to let one of these go further to keep us ducking for cover?


I don't have a problem with stings. This was a sting.

And when it comes to giving up freedoms we don't NEED terrorists, scary (insert other race here) and "the drug dealers" work just fine.
2012-10-17 08:58:33 PM  
1 votes:

Indubitably: Yo, FBI: well done.

*)

2012-10-17 08:57:14 PM  
1 votes:

ultraholland: astouffer: A bomb without explosives is not a bomb. Any kid with basic electronic knowledge can build a timer or some delay in detonation. So again I state that he could not figure out on his own how to get the explosives. If you have to ask these questions then you won't be very successful.

Your reasoning suggests that murder-for-hire isn't much of a crime.


The flaw in the reasoning is that he THOUGHT HE HAD EXPLOSIVES. If you are ready to kill someone, and all you lack is a hit man, then when you've gone through the yellow pages and found what you think is a hit man, you don't get to say later "But it wasn't a real hit man!" when the cops come to arrest you for attempted murder. Nor do you get to say "But my intended victim is still alive!" as if that somehow means you didn't really want him dead.

The same thing is true here. This poor fool went shopping for bomb materials. The fact that his "bomb" would not have exploded doesn't let him off the hook for the fact that he tried to set it off (any more than the person who hired the fake hit man gets to say their victim is still alive). Nor does the fact that the FBI might have "encouraged" his crime. He had an easy way not to commit the crime: Not to do it. If they really were the ones who said "Hey, let's blow something up!" and he really wasn't interested, all he had to do was say "Hey! Let's not!" But he didn't.

It is only entrapment if you do something you otherwise would not have done, or had no inclination to do. If this guy was the one who approached the FBI for his bomb--if he was even the one who first mooted the idea of blowing something up--then I'm sorry for all you government-haters out there, but it's just not entrapment. It was his idea, and they just gave him enough rope to blow himself up with.
2012-10-17 08:48:28 PM  
1 votes:
this is turning into yahoo type comments. "bombing plan thwarted" - Yay!!!! errr no the president is going to credit for this during election season. Me- I don't give a sh*t. lives were potentially saved because of the actions of the NYPD and the FEDERAL Bureau of Investigation. Is our memory so short that we have forgotton about the yellow- pink- red purple- pussy colored alerts that advised us to buy duct tape and plastic wrap? I much like being informed threats being averted instead of seeing bullsh*t alerts of the looming islamic fundamentalist zombie apocalypse.
2012-10-17 08:20:34 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: Too_many_Brians: Not sure if it has been pointed out, but the targeting is interesting. Originally he wanted to attack the New York Stock Exchange but then went after the Federal Reserve Building. After talking to the FBI. The difference is that the NYSE is a private organization that is not protected under certain laws. Especially not how attacking the Fed is a federal offense (even though it is private org), so this could also be turned into a much larger sentence in a federal facility rather than attacking a state building which could be taken as a state level offense.

Not exactly a conspiracy theory, but it does make for a better conviction rate for the FBI.

So the FBI gave him a bomb AND picked the target?



THIS is becoming a pretty common thing. Law Enforcement recruits a patsy to plot an attack and then busts them.

Creating terrorists yourself is a pretty good way to show how good you are at catching them.
2012-10-17 07:47:39 PM  
1 votes:

asmodeus224: astouffer: Oh great another one of these busts where the FBI plant starts asking who wants to blow stuff up. Some guy says yes so the FBI says well I know a guy that can build the bomb for you, lets get this ball rolling. Chances are on his own this would NOT have happened. If you need help being a terrorist then maybe terror is not for you.

They do the same thing with pedophiles, i don't have any problem with this strategy. Because if the FBI doesn't answer their outreach, someone will, and that someone may not be posing as a 12 year old girl or that person may not be selling playdough.


They're taking pages from their most successful playbook: breaking up the mafia. Get enough plants in a secret network and the network itself breaks down because no one can trust anyone else. They did this thousands of times in the 80's/90's while prosecuting organized crime.

Yeah, it's dangerously close to entrapment, but it works.
2012-10-17 07:34:39 PM  
1 votes:

cman: It's good that a terrorist plot was averted. If you like Obama or not, his guys were on the ball. Can't we just leave it at that?


I simply don't understand why we can't even celebrate a good thing if there's a chance to take a cheap partisan shot (see: OBL).

When people nay-say a certain event because the president is of a certain party, that's my cue to stop talking and back away slowly. That, or throw a punch. I'm not necessarily referring to this event (it could be argued that the crime was manufactured), but in general I'm tired of pissant little turds thinking so little of their country that they can't even enjoy a nice victory.
2012-10-17 07:33:04 PM  
1 votes:

legalgus: Only thing Obama ever prevented was an economic recovery.


The private sector of course has no blame for the state of the economy right?
2012-10-17 07:28:30 PM  
1 votes:

Abner Doon: The van was then parked next to the bank. The pair went to a nearby hotel, where Nafis apparently recorded a video statement meant to be shown to the American public in connection with the attack.

"We will not stop until we attain victory or martyrdom," he said, according to the criminal complaint.

He then tried, several times unsuccessfully, to detonate the device, which was actually inert explosives.

Nafis was then arrested.

Lulz. Think they have video of that? Could be amusing watching that dipshiat be all confused about why his bomb isn't going off.


Yakkity sax soundtrack?
2012-10-17 07:03:59 PM  
1 votes:
I remember when I thought who was president made a difference.
2012-10-17 06:49:04 PM  
1 votes:

Fjornir: Treygreen13: I understand how the FBI functions in the Department of Justice.

Sure you do, cupcake.


I do. And my point here is that the FBI should be finding idiot terrorists like this and bringing them in regardless of who is in charge.

Our guy (Obama) doesn't need to convince me that he is capable - I already think he's doing a great job and he'll be getting my vote. My first vote for a Democrat for President. I don't want people to go rah-rah when something that is supposed to happen regularly does. And when the FBI announces they've tracked down a terrorist and arrested him, I don't wonder which president did that. I say, "Oh, good" and move on with my life instead of trying to make it a part of a presidential administration.

And I frankly don't care what Republicans say about it because I no longer identify with that dumpster-fire of a party. So pre-emptive politicizing what should rightfully be a routine process by the FBI is sickening to me.
2012-10-17 06:43:47 PM  
1 votes:
How convenient. The timing is almost uncanny.
2012-10-17 06:42:22 PM  
1 votes:
It's another one of these "plots" where everybody in the "terror cell" except one guy is an FBI agent. Then they publicize the hell out of the arrest with breathless excitement and certainty that this moron really might have done something on his own.
2012-10-17 06:42:11 PM  
1 votes:

Treygreen13: Counter_Intelligent: Treygreen13: The FBI is now the Obama Administration?

Isn't the FBI part of the executive branch, at least?

I guess now that the Navy Seals are part of the Executive Branch, why not the FBI as well?


This has got to be my favorite quote of this thread. It sums up the outrage of the ignorant quite succinctly.
2012-10-17 06:39:10 PM  
1 votes:

hatelabs: The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.


If the Hovitos knew we were here, they would have killed us already.
2012-10-17 06:36:46 PM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: ultraholland: Nafis wrote that he wanted to 'destroy America' and that he believed the most efficient way to accomplish this goal was to target America's economy,


If bringing down the WTC didn't destroy America, blowing the facade off the Federal Reserve building isn't going to farking do it either. These religious toolbags live in a fantasy world.


Well, it did destroy personal freedom for US citizens.
2012-10-17 06:36:38 PM  
1 votes:
papundits.files.wordpress.com

Shhh... [whispers] October surprise!
2012-10-17 06:36:36 PM  
1 votes:
"Evil doer"

almost makes one nostalgic.
2012-10-17 06:35:59 PM  
1 votes:

ultraholland: Nafis wrote that he wanted to 'destroy America' and that he believed the most efficient way to accomplish this goal was to target America's economy,



If bringing down the WTC didn't destroy America, blowing the facade off the Federal Reserve building isn't going to farking do it either. These religious toolbags live in a fantasy world.
2012-10-17 06:34:12 PM  
1 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: hatelabs: The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.

Maybe the Republicans staged it so that it looked like the liberals staged it.


No no no no. The LIBERALS staged it to make it look like us Republicans staged it to make it
look like the liberals staged it...

Wait...what...?

Head...hurts...must...not...divide...by...

picsthatdontsuck.com
2012-10-17 06:33:30 PM  
1 votes:

hatelabs: The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.


If the Obamaites were staging something, they'd pick a McVeigh type, not a Middle-Easterner. Better fit to the "we can't trust anybody so we have to TSA all your asses" narrative.
2012-10-17 06:33:18 PM  
1 votes:

Mrbogey: Which youtube video will this administration blame for this one?


Free Republic Copypasta tasting pretty good?
2012-10-17 06:33:16 PM  
1 votes:

Vectron: you saying this 21 year old Arab kid could get his hands on explosives?


Even on his underwear.
2012-10-17 06:22:55 PM  
1 votes:

mizchief: So people should be arrested just for wanting drugs? That is basically your argument. Seems like maybe we should spend our man power looking for people who actually have the drugs/explosives/etc. rather than setting up people who apparently can't do it on their own anyway.


You don't even have to ask for drugs to get arrested. An undercover cop can offer you drugs and if you accept you can get arrested. Same with prostitution. Somehow that's not entrapment.
2012-10-17 06:20:23 PM  
1 votes:

lordaction: I'm sure Obama personally did this himself, just like he killed Osama. LIberals are really reaching now. They have been watching this guy for months and arrest him the day after the debates....right. This is why Obama is dangerous, he turns everything into politics instead of just focusing on doing the right thing.


Can you douchebags call off the dogs and stop politicizing every Goddamned thing for 2 minutes?
2012-10-17 06:18:22 PM  
1 votes:

Alonjar: Its a good thing all these terrorists are too stupid to google how to make explosives themselves.


Quality explosives are very hard to make safely. Large scale explosives are extremely hard to make without getting caught, as most of the really effective stuff that can be had on the cheap (fertilizer, etc) is now watched. In addition, most people who attempt to make bombs are taking a very high risk of turning themselves into charcoal briquettes or red paste via some form of manufacturing mistake, thus morons who attempt to buy or procure bombs via the 'nets.
2012-10-17 06:15:35 PM  
1 votes:

LineNoise: So basically you are just left with the morons to do your dirty work, and they aren't going to get very far.


Yeah, but it's even worse than the way you outlined it, because most of the really committed jihadis have an extremely poor education, because they were indoctrinated in absurdly religious schools. Picture the most extreme backward Christian homeschoolers, with their "evilution" and 6,000 year earth crap. This is way beyond that. They believe devoutly that Allah will reward them with virgins in the afterlife, and they have no idea what the difference between current and voltage is or nitrates or nitrites or radioactivity or explosives. They could be intelligent, but they are so backward and so steeped in nonsense that real knowledge won't stick to their brains. So trying to teach them about advanced weapons and bomb making is farking hopeless. They end up going to an FBI informant because there's no one else in their network who isn't completely over their head when it comes to blowing shiat up. They are probably puzzled and confused even watching an episode of mythbusters.

It's weird trying to teach someone really simple basic stuff when they come from a culture that completely embraces credulity and ignorance. You have a lot of adults in places like Bangladesh or Sudan or Indonesia that can't grasp stuff that 6 year olds in China, America, Spain, India, etc have no problem with. It's not everyone, and has absolutely nothing to do with race.
2012-10-17 06:13:27 PM  
1 votes:

LoneVVolf: Funny how all these terrorist attacks that get thwarted end up being some schlub the FBI conned into buying fake explosives and pressing a button. Seems to happen every time citizens get uppity about sacrificing more and more individual freedoms in the name of security. The real disturbing question here, is when people stop buying into the soft scare tactics, are they going to let one of these go further to keep us ducking for cover?


The dude tried to detonate the bomb multiple times. At some point, as convenient as it is for the Man...well, there are real terrorists, too. Shiatty terrorists, but this guy deserved to be arrested, and needs to live in a nice padded cell for a lifetime or two.
2012-10-17 06:12:11 PM  
1 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: bhcompy: The price of liberty is that bad people have an easier opportunity to do bad things. I'm okay with that price. Hell, the founders of this nation were, too.

Quote of the day.


Except that he has no idea what liberty was supposedly intruded upon and is simply trying to find a way to make this some sort of Tea Party Obama stohl mah liburty screed.

You never had the liberty to go around trying to do illegal shiat without getting your dumb ass arrested. If I go around asking a bunch of people for drugs, and one of those people is a law enforcement agent, am I somehow immune to prosecution when they arrange a fake drug sale to bust me? No, and it has farkall to do with personal liberty and everything to do with not being a god damn idiot intent on breaking the law.
xcv
2012-10-17 06:09:25 PM  
1 votes:
Damn from the target I assumed the suspect was a middle aged, white, Michigan Milita/sovereign citizen type.
2012-10-17 06:03:18 PM  
1 votes:

hairywoogit: This is essentially why terrorists don't really scare me. The vast majority of them are uneducated idiots. The really smart ones direct the idiots, and end up with Bond-Villain-esque results half the time.


My theory is this. You are Al Quadea. You have a smart guy who you have been bringing up through the ranks in Kerplakistan. The type of guy who when you get on the ground, in a few weeks can put together an actual workable operation. He is bright, resourceful, and has a good, logical head on his shoulders where he isn't going to fall for the first guy off the boat who says he can sell him a truck full of plastic explosives or whatever, and also is level headed enough to keep his cool and carry through with an operation.

So you go, "hey, this guy is our next big hope. If anyone can pull it off, its him". You give him a wad of cash to get his operation going, and get him into the country.

So not wanting to screw things up, and actually execute on the plan right, the guy establishes a cover, tries to blend in.......and then being an intelligent guy with a good head on his shoulders, quickly realizes that blowing up a bus load of nuns will in the grand scheme of things, accomplish nothing aside from maybe his old village getting a couple of tomahawks lobbed its way.

So he takes his money, settles down, opens a falafel stand, finds himself a nice girl, and that is that.

So basically you are just left with the morons to do your dirty work, and they aren't going to get very far.
2012-10-17 06:01:15 PM  
1 votes:
The government goaded and duped another semi-willing mildly-interested nobody into becoming a "terrorist". Didn't we just have a story from and undercover informant himself on how stupid all this is?
2012-10-17 06:01:06 PM  
1 votes:
"I can't smirk to this!"

www.thestand.org
2012-10-17 05:53:56 PM  
1 votes:

Slartibartfaster: ProfessorOhki: The question of the supplier committing a crime is trickier I guess

Should't the supplier/LEO have to prove that the suspect would have done this without being prompted to do so ?


According to the reports, Quazi Muslim traveled here intended to commit a terrorist attack and immediately started asking around for contacts and support. Some of the people he asked were FBI informants who diverted him and built a case that will get him locked up for life. I see no problem with this whatsoever.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 05:53:43 PM  
1 votes:

bhcompy: It wasn't really prevention. This guy was given a fake bomb to "detonate" to prove guilt. It would be prevention if the FBI Jack Bauer'd the bomb with 3 seconds left.


Sure it was. He would have found someone to provide a real bomb at some point.

I guess white knighting a terrorist cool if it helps get the white back into the White House.
2012-10-17 05:50:44 PM  
1 votes:
Good job.

The butthurt from the usual suspects is icing on the cake, though...
2012-10-17 05:49:15 PM  
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PanicMan: Gyrfalcon: rufus-t-firefly: hatelabs: The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.

Maybe the Republicans staged it so that it looked like the liberals staged it.

Maybe anarchists staged it to look like Republicans staged it to look like liberals staged it to look like terrorists did it.

It all makes perfect sense. Almost TOO much sense. But that's only what you want us to think. Or is it??????


I want you to think whatever you think they think you don't want them to think you think.
2012-10-17 05:49:14 PM  
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LoneVVolf: Funny how all these terrorist attacks that get thwarted end up being some schlub the FBI conned into buying fake explosives and pressing a button. Seems to happen every time citizens get uppity about sacrificing more and more individual freedoms in the name of security. The real disturbing question here, is when people stop buying into the soft scare tactics, are they going to let one of these go further to keep us ducking for cover?


They did. We know it as 9/11
2012-10-17 05:47:49 PM  
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vpb: Marcus Aurelius: The defendant thought he was striking a blow to the American economy. He thought he was directing confederates and fellow believers. At every turn, he was wrong, and his extensive efforts to strike at the heart of the nation's financial system were foiled by effective law enforcement

Translation: "We trolled this stupid loser mofo for all he was worth. He fell for the whole thing from start to finish."

That's fine. The intent is what matters.


There's also the minor detail that the defendant didn't have the slightest chance in hell of accomplishing his evil deeds without federal assistance.

Also, FTA:

Paul J. Browne, deputy commissioner of the New York City Police Department, released the following statement on the alleged plot:
"After 11 years without a successful attack, it's understanding if the public becomes complacent. But that's a luxury law enforcement can't afford."


fark you. You actually have to manufacture terrorist attacks now in order to keep yourselves relevant?
2012-10-17 05:46:33 PM  
1 votes:
Justice Dept arrests terrorist, yay Barry.
Justice Dept arms Mexican narcos, Barry had nothing to do with that.
2012-10-17 05:45:53 PM  
1 votes:
So I guess obama grabbed a nightstick, some cuffs and handled things. Just like he handled bin laden. Shame he wasn't able to handle the terrorists that overran our embassy, killed 4 Americans and slaughtered an Ambassador. Oh right that wasn't terrorists, it was angry movie critics. That was Hillary's fault anyway, stupid girls.
2012-10-17 05:45:48 PM  
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JusticeandIndependence: Rich Cream: That was some terrible English and that makes me think it wasn't written by anyone at CNN.

/inert explosives?

You've never heard of an inert gas?

in·ert [in-urt, ih-nurt]
adjective
1.
having no inherent power of action, motion, or resistance ( opposed to active): inert matter.
2.
Chemistry . having little or no ability to react, as nitrogen that occurs uncombined in the atmosphere.
3.
Pharmacology . having no pharmacological action, as the excipient of a pill.
4.
inactive or sluggish by habit or nature.



Point, please? If they're inert, they're not explosive.
2012-10-17 05:44:52 PM  
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Marcus Aurelius: Translation: "We trolled this stupid loser mofo for all he was worth. He fell for the whole thing from start to finish."


From NBC: The complaint said Nafis wrote a statement claiming responsibility for what he thought would be the Fed attack, saying he wanted to "destroy America" by going after its economy. He referred to "our beloved Sheikh Osama bin Laden" in the statement....The pair parked the van by the Fed, got out and walked to a hotel, where Nafis recorded a video statement he meant to be released after the attack. He then tried to detonate the purported bomb, officials said.

Somehow I don't think recording a post-bombing video says "I'm being trolled."
2012-10-17 05:40:12 PM  
1 votes:
Obama is only responsible when something goes wrong.
2012-10-17 05:38:32 PM  
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Treygreen13: I'm sure they would. Doesn't change my question at all though.


You mean your question about which branch of government it fall under?

Did you fail government 101?
2012-10-17 05:38:31 PM  
1 votes:
I wonder if this is another one whos bills were paid by the Feds while they groomed him for the big event.
2012-10-17 05:38:12 PM  
1 votes:
It's a good thing the TSA was there to thwart their evil plans.
2012-10-17 05:35:45 PM  
1 votes:
Ahahaha, this could not be any more staged. How convenient.
2012-10-17 05:35:33 PM  
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But remember when Obama does something good like getting OBL - He had NOTHING to do with it but when something bad happens it's ALL his fault.
2012-10-17 05:33:10 PM  
1 votes:
I hope they release this guy's tape. It'd be a shame to deny everyone the chance to point and laugh.
2012-10-17 05:33:03 PM  
1 votes:

Patterson: Soft on terror.


Tough on stains.
2012-10-17 05:32:52 PM  
1 votes:
The federal reserve.... ehhh..... cant say I would have cared much....
2012-10-17 05:32:11 PM  
1 votes:

Kuroshin: Your move, Romney.


I'm sure he has a 5 point plan
2012-10-17 05:29:57 PM  
1 votes:
I'm sure Obama personally did this himself, just like he killed Osama. LIberals are really reaching now. They have been watching this guy for months and arrest him the day after the debates....right. This is why Obama is dangerous, he turns everything into politics instead of just focusing on doing the right thing.
2012-10-17 05:29:33 PM  
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I don't know why any terrorist wannabe would target something in NYC. Any co-conspirators you come up with are bound to be FBI or NYPD.
2012-10-17 05:29:06 PM  
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12349876: bhcompy: It wasn't really prevention. This guy was given a fake bomb to "detonate" to prove guilt. It would be prevention if the FBI Jack Bauer'd the bomb with 3 seconds left.

If the government didn't find him and troll him, he might have been able to get a real one through some other means.


We'll never know, will we.

/of course the justice system will be okay with this bit of entrapment because who the fark needs civil liberties
2012-10-17 05:28:58 PM  
1 votes:
Christ what an abortion of a headline.
2012-10-17 05:28:50 PM  
1 votes:
Looks like somebody failed the moron test again. Sorry, Quazi Mohammad Rezwanul Ahsan Nafism, you don't even get a copy of our home game.
2012-10-17 05:28:48 PM  
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uncleacid: The Feds supplied him with everything. Story over.


Not really.

If I gave you a bunch of plastic explosive would you be able to drive to the Home Depot and purchase the proper gear to turn that into a bomb that can be remotely detonated?

He claims to have come to the USA in order to blow shiat up, and it seems likely that someone gave him training in how to make things go "boom".
2012-10-17 05:28:02 PM  
1 votes:
glad they thwarted that attack and I can't blame or praise either one of those candidate j/os. But I guess that's the joke.
2012-10-17 05:27:29 PM  
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Treygreen13: Counter_Intelligent: Treygreen13: The FBI is now the Obama Administration?

Isn't the FBI part of the executive branch, at least?

I guess now that the Navy Seals are part of the Executive Branch, why not the FBI as well?


If Bush could claim he prevented any attacks on America after 9/11, by the same logic this was prevented by Obama as well. Also, since he would be to blame for it like the GOP says he's to blame for Benghazi, therefore Obama prevented this.
2012-10-17 05:26:59 PM  
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vpb: I am sure it's a violation of the Tenth Amendment and the Second.


Well, according to Tony Scalia, a rocket launcher is protected, as long as you can carry it.
2012-10-17 05:26:48 PM  
1 votes:
What the suspect may look like:
www.murderati.com
2012-10-17 05:25:45 PM  
1 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: Treygreen13: The FBI is now the Obama Administration?

Isn't the FBI part of the executive branch, at least?


I guess now that the Navy Seals are part of the Executive Branch, why not the FBI as well?
2012-10-17 05:24:23 PM  
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rufus-t-firefly: hatelabs: The GOP will say it was a liberal staged attack to that this adminstration could thwart it.... Because making Obama a 1 term president is all that's important.

Maybe the Republicans staged it so that it looked like the liberals staged it.


The liberals are only trying to make it look like the Republicans staged it as to not look like they staged it themselves. Fedception.
2012-10-17 04:37:59 PM  
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OMG they didn't just catch the guy, they totally trolled him. "Oh sure these are explosives, not modeling clay"
2012-10-17 04:33:12 PM  
1 votes:
Stopping someone from blowing up a branch of the Fed isn't mentioned in the Constitution.
 
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