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(Ricochet)   CNN poll shows that Romney won on the economy, health care, taxes, the deficit, and leadership. So the media declares Obama the winner   (ricochet.com) divider line 240
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2012-10-17 05:24:46 PM
How could he win on anything?

All he did was spew platitudes and not offer a single clue as to what kind of plan he had to make these pie in the sky things happen. His solution to everything was, literally, the rainbows and unicorns that the Republitards associate with Obama. In fact, Rainbows and Unicorns are more substantial than Romney's plans, because we've seen rainbows.

Are people really this retarded?
 
2012-10-17 05:27:48 PM
Don't forget to blame the moderator

/not slogging through anything on that site
 
2012-10-17 05:28:26 PM

FirstNationalBastard: How could he win on anything?

All he did was spew platitudes and not offer a single clue as to what kind of plan he had to make these pie in the sky things happen. His solution to everything was, literally, the rainbows and unicorns that the Republitards associate with Obama. In fact, Rainbows and Unicorns are more substantial than Romney's plans, because we've seen rainbows.

Are people really this retarded?


People like being told they can eat all the cake they want and still lose weight.
 
2012-10-17 05:32:48 PM
And then there's Frank Luntz's group:

And that's where I stopped bothering. F*ck Frank Luntz with a rusty chainsaw. He's up there with Karl Rove and Grover Norquist on the list of people who've truly farked political discourse in this country.
 
2012-10-17 05:35:42 PM

FirstNationalBastard: His solution to everything was, literally, the rainbows and unicorns...In fact, Rainbows and Unicorns are more substantial than Romney's plans


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2012-10-17 05:37:49 PM

Somacandra: FirstNationalBastard: His solution to everything was, literally, the rainbows and unicorns...In fact, Rainbows and Unicorns are more substantial than Romney's plans

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Ah, so the five point plan is five unicorn horns for everyone?

/made in Cheater China, where Romney ships all the manufacturing jobs, of course.
 
2012-10-17 05:38:05 PM
How I know Obama won the debate last night: If you go around furiously pointing out small subsets of one poll, you lost. Every single poll shows a general Obama victory, and that CNN poll? Gave Obama a 7 point victory? Also said that was within the margin of error, so it interviewed at best 200 people. But on every issue you point out except the economy, Romney won also within the margin or error. And since the only issue you've gotten traction on in the last couple of weeks is foreign policy, and you got completely blown out of the water there, I'm thinking a slight edge on one topic in one poll doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot.
 
2012-10-17 05:40:17 PM
Did anybody sacrifice their ears and sanity to catch Limbaugh's spin on this? I would guess he calls Crowley fat or Obama a thug.
 
2012-10-17 05:42:05 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Did anybody sacrifice their ears and sanity to catch Limbaugh's spin on this? I would guess he calls Crowley fat or Obama a thug.


If I think about it I'll ask Weaver95 later.
 
2012-10-17 05:44:16 PM

SilentStrider: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Did anybody sacrifice their ears and sanity to catch Limbaugh's spin on this? I would guess he calls Crowley fat or Obama a thug.

If I think about it I'll ask Weaver95 later.


Oh don't worry, if he listened he won't stop talking about how he martyred himself by choosing to listen to a talk show.
 
2012-10-17 05:47:54 PM

GAT_00: SilentStrider: Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Did anybody sacrifice their ears and sanity to catch Limbaugh's spin on this? I would guess he calls Crowley fat or Obama a thug.

If I think about it I'll ask Weaver95 later.

Oh don't worry, if he listened he won't stop talking about how he martyred himself by choosing to listen to a talk show.


It is a useful service since it gives a heads up as to what derp idiot coworkers will be spewing
 
2012-10-17 06:23:16 PM
I browsed the talk radio stations earlier. Both sides said they won, but from what I witnessed, Romney lost.
 
2012-10-17 06:23:58 PM

FirstNationalBastard: How could he win on anything?

All he did was spew platitudes and not offer a single clue as to what kind of plan he had to make these pie in the sky things happen. His solution to everything was, literally, the rainbows and unicorns that the Republitards associate with Obama. In fact, Rainbows and Unicorns are more substantial than Romney's plans, because we've seen rainbows.

Are people really this retarded?


Yeah, I totally don't get it. I guess no one goes broke betting on stupid.
 
2012-10-17 06:34:29 PM
Well, 0bama won based the four important measures:

1. Most time given in debate.
2. Number of moderators who they won over and got them to show bias.
3. Least amount of times interrupted by the moderator.
4. Most "ums" and "uhs"
 
2012-10-17 06:38:21 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Don't forget to blame the moderator

/not slogging through anything on that site


since you are afraid to look at a site:

CBS Poll: Romney Wins 65-34 on Economy;
CNN Poll:
Romney Wins 54-40 on Economy,
49-46 on Health Care,
51-44 on Taxes,
59-36 on Deficit,
49-46 on Leadership,
All in Favor of Romney
 
2012-10-17 06:38:41 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Well, 0bama won based the four important measures:

1. Most time given in debate.
2. Number of moderators who they won over and got them to show bias.
3. Least amount of times interrupted by the moderator.
4. Most "ums" and "uhs"


Whaaaa freaking whaaa. Man up Nancy. Your guy got smoked.
 
2012-10-17 06:40:57 PM
Okay, okay. Who knows if these Luntz focus groups are meaningful?

24.media.tumblr.com

OH!! OH!! OH!! OH!! OH!! OH!! OH!!

They're not...?
 
2012-10-17 06:42:04 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: tenpoundsofcheese: Well, 0bama won based the four important measures:

1. Most time given in debate.
2. Number of moderators who they won over and got them to show bias.
3. Least amount of times interrupted by the moderator.
4. Most "ums" and "uhs"

Whaaaa freaking whaaa. Man up Nancy. Your guy got smoked.


yeah, the voters believe differently.
(see CNN polls)
but go on believing that if it makes you feel different.
 
2012-10-17 06:42:49 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Peter von Nostrand: Don't forget to blame the moderator

/not slogging through anything on that site

since you are afraid to look at a site:

CBS Poll: Romney Wins 65-34 on Economy;
CNN Poll:
Romney Wins 54-40 on Economy,
49-46 on Health Care,
51-44 on Taxes,
59-36 on Deficit,
49-46 on Leadership,
All in Favor of Romney


Today polls matter? Ok I can't keep it straight with Republicans when opinions matter
 
2012-10-17 06:44:07 PM
Ahh crap I let myself get pulled into the TPOC Circle of Derp
 
2012-10-17 06:44:10 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Most time given in debate.


Of course, when Romney got more time than Obama in the first debate it was a-okay, right?
 
2012-10-17 06:45:00 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: Ahh crap I let myself get pulled into the TPOC Circle of Derp


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2012-10-17 06:47:48 PM

Precious Roy's Horse Dividers: tenpoundsofcheese: Peter von Nostrand: Don't forget to blame the moderator

/not slogging through anything on that site

since you are afraid to look at a site:

CBS Poll: Romney Wins 65-34 on Economy;
CNN Poll:
Romney Wins 54-40 on Economy,
49-46 on Health Care,
51-44 on Taxes,
59-36 on Deficit,
49-46 on Leadership,
All in Favor of Romney

Today polls matter? Ok I can't keep it straight with Republicans when opinions matter


When polls over sample dems and/or use the turnout models of 2008 and they show (surprise) a dem leading, it doesn't say much.

But when they show a republican winning, then it says something.

Do you understand now?

Besides, 0bama couldn't even convince his base that he is better for economy. Now that is funny.

Look at how the recent Gallup poll has Romney increasing his lead - obviously that isn't based on last night's debate, but (wait for it...wait...wait) it does tell you about the VP debate. Biden made his base happy but lost the middle.

Too funny.
 
2012-10-17 06:48:48 PM
I didn't watch the debate. I know who I'm voting for.

When I turned on the local talk radio derpers this morning (to get weather and traffic) they were raging about how Candy Crowley should be tied to a chair and forced to watch tapes of Sean Hannity until she "learns what being an impartial journalist is supposed to look like" and how, despite the clear media bias, Romney was the *REAL* winner.

I thought "Wow, the White House staff must be having a hell of a time cleaning off Obama's shoes this morning, assuming they had ace spelunkers capable of retrieving them from Romney's small bowel."
 
2012-10-17 06:48:56 PM
Leadership?

Romney: I-I-I-I think I'm supposed to get the last question there Candy.
Crowley: No, actually, you're not.
Romney: Yes, I think so. I'd like to respond to the President if I may.
Crowley: You agreed to the rules of the debate Governor, so we're moving on.
Romney: Trickle-down government.
Crowley: ...
Romney: *nailed it*
 
2012-10-17 06:49:57 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: I thought "Wow, the White House staff must be having a hell of a time cleaning off Obama's shoes this morning, assuming they had ace spelunkers capable of retrieving them from Romney's small bowel."


An Obama campaign guy called me today asking for money. He was giddy over the debate last night. I get the impression that a lot of the people he's been calling were pretty positive.
 
2012-10-17 06:50:46 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: (see CNN polls)


OK

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2012-10-17 06:57:27 PM
Why can't I find any of these polls on CBSnews.com/politics? 

I see a lot of "conservatve" whining, though
 
2012-10-17 07:00:14 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: (see CNN polls)

OK

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meh, snap poll.

look at the detain. looking at overall win is like looking at national polls instead of electoral college.

what matters is how people feel about why they vote (e.g. economy, taxes, etc)

Try these

CNN Poll:
Romney Wins 54-40 on Economy,
49-46 on Health Care,
51-44 on Taxes,
59-36 on Deficit,
49-46 on Leadership,
All in Favor of Romney

so if people vote based on who got more airtime and recovered better from the debacle 2 weeks ago, then 0bama is all set.
 
2012-10-17 07:00:43 PM

themindiswatching: tenpoundsofcheese: Most time given in debate.

Of course, when Romney got more time than Obama in the first debate it was a-okay, right?


Prior to the closing remarks, Obama had about 4 minutes more speaking time in the first debate.
 
2012-10-17 07:02:10 PM
That is cute and clever and original how a zero is used instead of an O. You are such an adorable little fella. Maybe pop pop will bring you for ice cream later
 
2012-10-17 07:03:51 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: (see CNN polls)

OK

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Hey, didn't the shills think CNN were dirty LIE-bruls until they found a few partial polls saying Romney won something?
 
2012-10-17 07:06:37 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: so if people vote based on who got more airtime


Yeah, but Romney got to say more words!!!  OMFG!! Moderator was in the tank for Romney!!

-yes, you sound that retarded.
 
2012-10-17 07:10:29 PM
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"LOOK, BOY! I'M TALKING HERE! YOU'LL GET YOUR GODDAMNED TURN! Wait... who taught you the Five Point Plan?"

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2012-10-17 07:12:09 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: so if people vote based on who got more airtime

Yeah, but Romney got to say more words!!!  OMFG!! Moderator was in the tank for Romney!!

-yes, you sound that retarded.


It's really hard for me to ignore tenpoundsofcheese if people keep quoting it.
 
2012-10-17 07:14:25 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: so if people vote based on who got more airtime

Yeah, but Romney got to say more words!!!  OMFG!! Moderator was in the tank for Romney!!

-yes, you sound that retarded.

It's really hard for me to ignore tenpoundsofcheese if people keep quoting it.


You could leave the thread
 
2012-10-17 07:17:31 PM
He looks like he could order someone to kill the moderator, here.

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-17 07:21:00 PM

Nadie_AZ: He looks like he could order someone to kill the moderator, here.


A family of sociopaths is the perfect prescription for what ails America:


i50.tinypic.com
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-17 07:24:12 PM

NewportBarGuy: Nadie_AZ: He looks like he could order someone to kill the moderator, here.

A family of sociopaths is the perfect prescription for what ails America:


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But enough about the Bush dynasty.
 
2012-10-17 07:26:42 PM

themindiswatching: tenpoundsofcheese: Most time given in debate.

Of course, when Romney got more time than Obama in the first debate it was a-okay, right?


According to CNN 0bama got more speaking time in the first debate too.
Please try again.
 
2012-10-17 07:28:44 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: so if people vote based on who got more airtime

Yeah, but Romney got to say more words!!!  OMFG!! Moderator was in the tank for Romney!!

-yes, you sound that retarded.


That word count does not include 0bama's uhhhs and umms.

With those, 0bama is over 9000.
 
2012-10-17 07:36:21 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: so if people vote based on who got more airtime

Yeah, but Romney got to say more words!!!  OMFG!! Moderator was in the tank for Romney!!

-yes, you sound that retarded.

That word count does not include 0bama's uhhhs and umms.

With those, 0bama is over 9000.


What if we include Romney's "IT'S MY TURN!! MY TURN!! MY TURN!! MY TURN!! WAAAAA!!!!!!"
 
2012-10-17 07:40:32 PM

Lionel Mandrake: It's really hard for me to ignore tenpoundsofcheese if people keep quoting it.

You could leave the thread


You'd have to avoid the Politics Tab entirely.

Anyway, I find the responses amusing, even though I have TPoC on ignore. Thinking about taking him off, though, just for the lulz since it seems like the desperation is starting to reach critical mass.
 
2012-10-17 07:42:18 PM

Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: Lionel Mandrake: tenpoundsofcheese: so if people vote based on who got more airtime

Yeah, but Romney got to say more words!!!  OMFG!! Moderator was in the tank for Romney!!

-yes, you sound that retarded.

That word count does not include 0bama's uhhhs and umms.

With those, 0bama is over 9000.

What if we include Romney's "IT'S MY TURN!! MY TURN!! MY TURN!! MY TURN!! WAAAAA!!!!!!"


easily cancelled out by 0bama whining that he lost 5 seconds and then goes on to talk for an extra minute.

doesn't even count when 0bama asked the moderator if they could more on because he is getting crushed (bailout, fast and furious)
 
2012-10-17 07:44:13 PM
TPOC has turned up the levels of pussywhinywharrgarrrble. Further proof Romney got smoked
 
2012-10-17 07:47:23 PM

fusillade762: Lionel Mandrake: It's really hard for me to ignore tenpoundsofcheese if people keep quoting it.

You could leave the thread

You'd have to avoid the Politics Tab entirely.

Anyway, I find the responses amusing, even though I have TPoC on ignore. Thinking about taking him off, though, just for the lulz since it seems like the desperation is starting to reach critical mass.


Like I said in another thread (about a different shill/troll/whatever), whether he's serious or not, he's good preparation for the conversations I'll undoubtedly be having with my dad's side of the family. The quickest way to stop them from inundating every second of a visit with uber-retarded wingnut spin is to shut them down with facts.

With fark's help, I am prepared for levels of derp that might otherwise shock me into something that resembles submission.
 
2012-10-17 07:52:50 PM
Free Republic and LGF both put out calls for everyone to go skew the polls. I suspect that might have something to do with it.
 
2012-10-17 07:53:01 PM

Lionel Mandrake: fusillade762: Lionel Mandrake: It's really hard for me to ignore tenpoundsofcheese if people keep quoting it.

You could leave the thread

You'd have to avoid the Politics Tab entirely.

Anyway, I find the responses amusing, even though I have TPoC on ignore. Thinking about taking him off, though, just for the lulz since it seems like the desperation is starting to reach critical mass.

Like I said in another thread (about a different shill/troll/whatever), whether he's serious or not, he's good preparation for the conversations I'll undoubtedly be having with my dad's side of the family. The quickest way to stop them from inundating every second of a visit with uber-retarded wingnut spin is to shut them down with facts.

With fark's help, I am prepared for levels of derp that might otherwise shock me into something that resembles submission.


Well whaddaya know, this place is useful in the real world after all!

;)
 
2012-10-17 07:53:58 PM

Quasar: Prior to the closing remarks, Obama had about 4 minutes more speaking time in the first debate.


Good to know!
 
2012-10-17 07:54:42 PM

unlikely: Free Republic and LGF both put out calls for everyone to go skew the polls. I suspect that might have something to do with it.


Hey we may not have won, but WE CAN MAKE IT LOOK LIKE WE WON!

Truly genius plan
 
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