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(The New York Times)   "MOMMY MOMMY that man is creepy and he SCARES me". "It's ok honey, the poor man isn't anything to worry about. He's just a Blackberry User"   (nytimes.com) divider line 113
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2012-10-17 01:03:31 PM
That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.
 
2012-10-17 01:10:54 PM
LA snob-people problems. Also, are Blackberries out-of-date and impractical enough for hipsters to use them yet?
 
2012-10-17 01:12:37 PM
"I feel absolutely helpless," said Ms. Gossage.
"I'm ashamed of it," said Ms. Crosby
"You get used to that kind of rejection," she said.
"I want to take a bat to it," Ms. Crosby said


You'd think these people had AIDS or something.
 
2012-10-17 01:15:22 PM

Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.


Better punishment: Make them use one of these for the rest of time:

www.blogcdn.com
 
2012-10-17 01:22:29 PM
I enjoy my blackberry. I can type about 50 words a minute and punctuation is a breeze. It does exactly what I need it to do: Send/receive emails - Send/receive texts - makes phone calls.

If people want to sheep there way into the next ishiat product then be my guest. I'll be hanging on to the BB until the thing dies.. which after having it for 4 1/2 years of constant use and many drops (many many drops) it still seems to be performing perfectly.

This one is a gem and pure LOL worthy: "I feel absolutely helpless," said Ms. Gossage. "You're constantly watching people do all these things on their phones and all I have going for me is my family's group BBM chats."

I mean if that is the biggest worry of your life then you must have a pretty nice life Ms. Gossage.
 
2012-10-17 01:24:02 PM
If a Blackberry is good enough for Christian Grey then it's good enough for me.
 
2012-10-17 01:37:36 PM
The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.

But some of the BB users in the article just aren't that bright.

FTFA: "I constantly ask people, 'What is so great about it?' and they have these nonsensical answers," he said. "Someone told me I'm missing out on some app that maps their ski runs. I ski four days a year. On the road, I don't need a ski app."

Because of my profession, I run into this too- someone will ask me what's to like about the iPhone, without telling me what it is they do on a day-to-day basis. Of course my example runs the risk of striking them as useless- It's useful only because its an example of something highly specific that meets my particular needs. I would have to know a lot more about someone to pull something similar out of the air for their situation. I usually show them the whizzier stuff on my phone that they're capable of understanding- say, hitting my home video library with air video and playing a movie, or launching the slingbox app to play live TV from my satellite service. Sometime, the response is "why would I want to watch TV on my phone?", meaning that they've completely missed my point.
 
2012-10-17 01:42:32 PM
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2012-10-17 01:52:39 PM
NYT;DR
 
2012-10-17 01:53:30 PM
What the hell is up with - ""I want to take a bat to it," Ms. Crosby said, after waiting for her phone's browser to load for the third minute, only to watch the battery die. "You can't do anything with it. You're supposed to, but it's all a big lie.""...

No duh you waited 3 minutes for your phone's browser to load, your battery was so critically low that it shut off, your radio was probably already disabled to try to stretch what little remaining battery life you had... it's the phone's fault you can't charge the damned thing??

That is without a doubt, the most one-sided, spite-filled article I've ever read about a technology...
 
2012-10-17 01:54:49 PM

xynix: I mean if that is the biggest worry of your life then you must have a pretty nice life Ms. Gossage.


Apparently she's a "hedge fund manager". I tried googling, but didn't come up with much. Her company's website is just one page with an email address. She has a blanked out LinkedIn account.

I have to think a hedge fund manager can forego waiting for her contract to renew and just f'n buy one.
I'm not sure what they get paid, but to even invest in a hedge fun, you need to be an "accredited" investor. Something like $1,000,000 in liquid assetts, and an income of at least $250,000/yr. People managing those people's money must be doing quite well.

Also, I find Blackberry users to come across as very serious. You know the type. Your GM or VP or something is in a meeting or whatever, they pull out their device and it's a blackberry. Just sort of signifies to me that they don't have time to use everyone else's little toys. They need a device for business and that's it. Now stop staring kid and get back to work.
 
2012-10-17 01:58:42 PM
FTFA: asked the concierge for a phone charger. "First he said, 'Sure.' Then he saw my phone and - in this disgusted tone - said, 'Oh no, no, not for that.' "

So he didn't have a microUSB charger? Bullshiat.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:49 PM

Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.

Better punishment: Make them use one of these for the rest of time:

[www.blogcdn.com image 320x393]


fark, that phone has snake on it! better than 10 iphones!
 
2012-10-17 02:04:32 PM
Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.
 
2012-10-17 02:04:47 PM
Also, I'm a BlackBerry user.

I like it better than anything out there because it does what I want better than anything out there, i.e.: Communication.

I don't care about fancy "apps" or "Instagram" or whatever fart app you're using. People talk shiat about iPhone, I remember a few months ago, "Oh I can play DrawSomething on my iPhone." Well, are you playing it now? Cause 2-3 weeks after it blew up, nobody was playing it anymore. Most people who have iPhones are sheep. Seriously. They buy things not because they use it, but because other people do. And drop your anecdotes about how you can manage your media center, check on your investments and cure cancer with your iPhone, nobody cares. Great, you're not a sheep. Guess what? Everybody else is still one.

I can use Twitter, Facebook, FourSquare and WhatsApp with BlackBerry. That's enough for me.

I have perfect call signal. Great text messaging. Exclusive BBM chat messaging.

If you want to communicate, nothing beats a BlackBerry. Other phones get around with fancy screens and useless apps (iOS/Android do indeed have truly useful apps though).
 
2012-10-17 02:05:28 PM
I actually just upgraded to Iphone after many, many good years with blackberry.

All my friend would tease me about blackberry, but the fact of the matter is I actually much prefer it to Iphone. Iphone has faster internet and I can play games on it, making it a fun weekend phone. But my email and typing is MUCH better and more reliable on blackberry, and that's what I need for work.

It's unfortunate I can't trade in the iphone as my time limit already passed. I had a Blackberry Style and for what I needed it worked great.
 
2012-10-17 02:08:48 PM
Oh, forgot about the keyboard. NOTHING beats a physical keyboard. Nothing.

I can type with my eyes closed with an accuracy of 90%.
 
2012-10-17 02:11:01 PM

Lollipop165: typing is MUCH better and more reliable on blackberry, and that's what I need for work


I'll say this: The windows phone keyboard is the best around. Bar none. Better than all of them. I'm almost on par with two-handed full keyboard typing. It's very very fast and solid.
 
2012-10-17 02:11:36 PM

unyon: The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.


RIM really should just concentrate on a BES app for iPhone and Android. They've lost the fight for the best device, but they've still got the BES infrastructure to leverage.

It would make BYOD much easier.
 
2012-10-17 02:11:47 PM
I have a Blackberry for work purposes, and an Android phone for personal use. The Blackberry is farking terrible. I hate the thing with a passion. I can't wait for my employer to embrace BYOD so I can be rid of the thing.
 
2012-10-17 02:12:15 PM

Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.

Better punishment: Make them use one of these for the rest of time:

[www.blogcdn.com image 320x393]



The funny thing is, those phones will last forever. They are farking durable.

www.everydaynodaysoff.com

/proud owner of a 3330 for 11 years
/had to replace the battery 5 years ago, though
/*wipes tears*
 
2012-10-17 02:17:44 PM
I travel a lot overseas for work and I see most people with Blackberrys and Nokias of some sort or another.
 
2012-10-17 02:22:19 PM
I started to think of ways that I could justify my continued BlackBerry use. The best I can come up with is that I'm poor and cheap, and as long as it keeps on working fine for what I use it for, I see no reason to replace it.

It's kind of funny- for the boomers when they were teenagers, the status symbol to have was a car. They were cheap enough/people had enough purchasing power back then that everybody could afford one. Nowadays, very few teens can afford a car, but many can afford to spend $200+ $50/month for the latest smartphone, which has become the status symbol du jour. What will happen in the future as our purchasing power continues to erode?
 
2012-10-17 02:23:02 PM
You have to give RIM this, they had it together at one time. I had a bb, and it was accidentally dropped in a lake. A couple days later the replacement arrived. I plugged it in, fired up the desktop manager and within minutes you couldn't tell that it was a different phone. I didn't have the emails or texts since the last backup, but I backed up pretty regularly and everything down to the background image was restored. My wife, who did the dropping, was amazed.
 
2012-10-17 02:24:38 PM

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: What will happen in the future as our purchasing power continues to erode?


credit will continue to become easier and easier to acquire, all while bankruptcy will continue to grow more and more exceptions from discharge.
 
2012-10-17 02:27:11 PM
Had a Blackberry Tour for a couple of years. The kind with the physical trackball. The sensor for the physical trackball broke, not for movement, but for clicking. Apparently there's a) no easy fix, and b) no way of re-mapping the button to some other key. The phone became essentially useless, since you need to use that click for everything.

Never getting Blackberry again.
 
2012-10-17 02:28:28 PM

T.rex: Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.


Who are you people? Who the fark cares what kind of phone someone has?? Why would you care what someone thinks of your phone??

I just realized it... I think I've turned into my dad. shiat.
 
2012-10-17 02:29:58 PM

clear_prop: unyon: The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.

RIM really should just concentrate on a BES app for iPhone and Android. They've lost the fight for the best device, but they've still got the BES infrastructure to leverage.

It would make BYOD much easier.


I think they have to keep making phones, but they should just switch to Android with their features on top. That they can't figure this out makes me think they're too stupid to live as a company, and it's probably already too late to really save the brand without a miracle.

It would be an easy sell, all of the cool parts of Android, the keyboard everyone likes, and they can have their fancy business shiat on top. Boom.

I remember actually LOLing when I heard that they weren't going with Android and were instead going to do all of that other OS retooling that they announced like last year or whatever.
 
2012-10-17 02:43:08 PM

Abner Doon: That they can't figure this out


They tooled around with the idea. There was an article a few months back on how they seriously considered it but ultimately found it to be an untenable option.
 
2012-10-17 02:43:24 PM
I carry two cell phones. My personal Droid (Samsung Galaxy SII) and my company Blackberry when I'm on call on alternating weeks. The Droid is a great phone with lots of features, but if I forget to put it on the charger every night, I'm screwed. The Blackberry can go almost a week on a single charge. It's also damn near indestructable. I've dropped it on concrete more times than I can remember and it still works (but I keep trying!).

It's a tool that works, not a farking fashion accessory. Get over it or buy an iPhone if you want to be trendy.
 
2012-10-17 02:44:38 PM
That is without a doubt, the most one-sided, spite-filled article I've ever read about a technology...

You must not be reading the anti-Apple propaganda we get here every day.
 
2012-10-17 02:48:00 PM
Should come to Canada, Blackberries are second only to iPhones in popularity.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 02:50:09 PM
At work nobody mocks my year old BlackBerry because a coworker has a 3 year old BlackBerry. Nobody mocks him either, because he knows the root password to the servers.
 
2012-10-17 02:52:06 PM

tomcatadam: Abner Doon: That they can't figure this out

They tooled around with the idea. There was an article a few months back on how they seriously considered it but ultimately found it to be an untenable option.


And now they're resigned to fighting over the third world, and nobody in the US would be caught dead buying one. I rest my case.

/ Yes, I know they were already doing shiatty for quite a while, but none of the reasons they gave were persuasive so it just came off like a failure to actually consider the option. My guess is that the people at top are too set in stone.
 
2012-10-17 02:52:55 PM

OgreMagi: I carry two cell phones. My personal Droid (Samsung Galaxy SII) and my company Blackberry when I'm on call on alternating weeks. The Droid is a great phone with lots of features, but if I forget to put it on the charger every night, I'm screwed. The Blackberry can go almost a week on a single charge. It's also damn near indestructable. I've dropped it on concrete more times than I can remember and it still works (but I keep trying!).

It's a tool that works, not a farking fashion accessory. Get over it or buy an iPhone if you want to be trendy.


My old HTC G2 also took a number of concrete drops and kept on going. Its replacement, the One S, I haven't dropped yet, so we'll see how that goes.

I do agree with you that the one advantage the Blackberry really has is battery life, though.
 
2012-10-17 02:55:38 PM

unyon: Because of my profession, I run into this too- someone will ask me what's to like about the iPhone, without telling me what it is they do on a day-to-day basis. Of course my example runs the risk of striking them as useless- It's useful only because its an example of something highly specific that meets my particular needs. I would have to know a lot more about someone to pull something similar out of the air for their situation. I usually show them the whizzier stuff on my phone that they're capable of understanding- say, hitting my home video library with air video and playing a movie, or launching the slingbox app to play live TV from my satellite service. Sometime, the response is "why would I want to watch TV on my phone?", meaning that they've completely missed my point.


I love the tech. Don't get me wrong.. As a consumer device the iphone is dandy. CSB: I was chief architect of this converged technology at Ericsson. I spent many a days in the bitter frosts of Sunsdvall, Sweden in 2001-2003 designing the back end for this stuff. Back then we had a dream of building devices that could be linked to cars and homes and everything was available in the cloud. We wanted a device that you could plug into your car's TV and watch a movie and when you got home plug it into your TV and continue the movie where you left off. Or even better a wireless infrastructure that would allow delivery from servers somewhere around the delivery point. We built the earliest forms of edge asset delivery and look-forward asset delivery.

I remember the first MMS handler we created and some of the first pictures taken by prototype phones wizzing through our infrastructure. Then came VMWare and we could now stack assets in racks and scale up to an infinite level. In 2005 or so I worked with Wind in Italy to create one of the first true MMS delivery platforms in the world.

This is awesome.. I mean it's really awesome to see what we worked so hard on building to be eaten up by consumers. I've made quite a lot of money and continue to because of heavy adoption of this stuff.

However I don't need an iphone to do business.

BB: Very durable, very easy to type on and create emails, battery life of days - charges in minutes, who the hell is going to steal a BB? Very cheap to replace if lost.
iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.

I have an ipad I use for giving presentations if I need to. It also has some apps and videos if I'm on a plane or stuck in a hotel somewhere .. i can also read kindle books on it. I find an iphone redundant and frankly a bad business tool.
 
2012-10-17 03:03:35 PM

rogue_L_chick: T.rex: Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.

Who are you people? Who the fark cares what kind of phone someone has?? Why would you care what someone thinks of your phone??

I just realized it... I think I've turned into my dad. shiat.


Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.

My finacee had a crap phone, and although i hate Apple, i felt it was my duty to upgrade her to the iPhone. She didn't ask... i demanded she have a real phone.
 
2012-10-17 03:16:19 PM

unyon: The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.


The thing is - the stuff that RIM does well is the stuff that Google and Android are actively targeting while RIM fails to make any significant improvements of its own.

/and BES is a piece of shiat - always has been - the only reason people dealt for it for so long was that there wasn't any reasonable alternatives
 
2012-10-17 03:17:53 PM

T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.



No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.
 
2012-10-17 03:19:25 PM

xynix: iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.


I have a hard time taking your "background and "expertise" with any seriousness if this is your bullshiat opinion on the iPhone. My take away is that you've never actually used one - especially in a corporate setting.

/spent years on blackberries - the quality of the product was widely inconsistant - some models were solid as rocks - others failed constantly
 
2012-10-17 03:21:19 PM

T.rex: Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.


Same situation, work BB, personal Android, and I don't care what you think about either one. Though at work it is looking like we are going to Android in the near future.
 
2012-10-17 03:23:21 PM

rocky_howard: FTFA: asked the concierge for a phone charger. "First he said, 'Sure.' Then he saw my phone and - in this disgusted tone - said, 'Oh no, no, not for that.' "

So he didn't have a microUSB charger? Bullshiat.


My thoughts exactly. Unless the dude is rocking a circa 1978 BB, I can't remember the last Android or BB phone that didn't charge off micro USB
 
2012-10-17 03:24:49 PM
So no charger for it? Guy's a jerk, BBs use (or used to) the same flavour of USB as androids.
 
2012-10-17 03:27:08 PM

xynix: BB: Very durable


Agreed. My BB Torch has very solid hardware. Much better than anything I've seen from Samsung, HTC or Motorola's Droid series. Too bad that it runs BB-OS instead of something else.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 03:29:22 PM
I figured the guy who wouldn't charge a BB only had the Apple connector. Or the story was made up. One of those.
 
2012-10-17 03:30:49 PM

gingerjet: xynix: iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.

I have a hard time taking your "background and "expertise" with any seriousness if this is your bullshiat opinion on the iPhone. My take away is that you've never actually used one - especially in a corporate setting.

/spent years on blackberries - the quality of the product was widely inconsistant - some models were solid as rocks - others failed constantly


I've never used one in the corporate setting but I have used my girlfriends quite a few times to attempt writing emails. I've also had several iphone touches which use the same interface. I also use an ipad which has the same interface on a much larger screen and it's still a pain in the ass. Having seen my friends cracked phones or the alternative which is a bulky case I'm not a fan. I can toss my BB out my window right now and it will be just fine. After hearing people biatch about the battery life I'm also not a fan. I can fly down to Miami with a charge, use the phone all day, use GPS, and fly back to Atlanta on the same charge and still have enough for my alarm in the morning. If I don't have enough battery life though I have two spares that cost me $15 each in my bag.

So yes, with a bulky case you can indeed keep your iphone from having cracked glass. If you don't use it you'll have some nice battery life. However I enjoy keeping my phone in my back pocket and I barely feel the BB. My girls iphone is easily twice the weight and with the break-proof cover twice as bulky. It's small shiat like that .. I don't want to carry a damn holster around. I'm not a cop.

By the way it's not just iphones.. Having watched a ridicules video of some guy testing the new 5 vs some samsung doing a "drop test" and cracking glass from a normal fall out of the pocket.. it's just silly. I've never had a phone break when I took it out of my pocket and accidentally dropped it. Hell this iphone I have now flew out of my pocket into a puddle of water and kept the link to the concall I was on. farking boss.
 
2012-10-17 03:38:54 PM

xynix: Hell this iphone BB I have now flew out of my pocket into a puddle of water and kept the link to the concall I was on. farking boss.


You knew what I meant :P
 
2012-10-17 03:42:33 PM

redmid17: My thoughts exactly. Unless the dude is rocking a circa 1978 BB, I can't remember the last Android or BB phone that didn't charge off micro USB


My friend's 2007 used mini-USB.

In fact, it's the only BlackBerry out of all the ones my friends have had (including their refurbs/replacements) that hasn't broken down entirely.
 
2012-10-17 03:48:43 PM

ZAZ: I figured the guy who wouldn't charge a BB only had the Apple connector. Or the story was made up. One of those.


Or the guy has a super-old BB with Mini-USB.
 
2012-10-17 03:50:59 PM
My bold 9930 is one hell of a phone. T/S plus keyboard that is bigger than the old ones.

BBallin.

iPhones are for little kids and homeless people.

BB's are for keeping your life more efficient and organized, not the main focal point of your life.
 
2012-10-17 03:55:12 PM

montreal_medic: So no charger for it? Guy's a jerk, BBs use (or used to) the same flavour of USB as androids.


My old BB used mini-USB, my new Android uses micro-USB. Not that that's universal, and you'd think they'd have both if anything. Was a bit confused on that anecdote, maybe the guy was just a dick?
 
2012-10-17 03:55:20 PM

rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.


There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.
 
2012-10-17 04:00:25 PM
So all you can do is check email, make phone calls, send and receive texts and pictures?

Pffft - what a waste.
 
2012-10-17 04:00:53 PM

rocky_howard: Also, I'm a BlackBerry user.

I like it better than anything out there because it does what I want better than anything out there, i.e.: Communication.

I don't care about fancy "apps" or "Instagram" or whatever fart app you're using. People talk shiat about iPhone, I remember a few months ago, "Oh I can play DrawSomething on my iPhone." Well, are you playing it now? Cause 2-3 weeks after it blew up, nobody was playing it anymore. Most people who have iPhones are sheep. Seriously. They buy things not because they use it, but because other people do. And drop your anecdotes about how you can manage your media center, check on your investments and cure cancer with your iPhone, nobody cares. Great, you're not a sheep. Guess what? Everybody else is still one.

I can use Twitter, Facebook, FourSquare and WhatsApp with BlackBerry. That's enough for me.

I have perfect call signal. Great text messaging. Exclusive BBM chat messaging.

If you want to communicate, nothing beats a BlackBerry. Other phones get around with fancy screens and useless apps (iOS/Android do indeed have truly useful apps though).


www.memecreator.org
 
2012-10-17 04:03:14 PM

tomcatadam: redmid17: My thoughts exactly. Unless the dude is rocking a circa 1978 BB, I can't remember the last Android or BB phone that didn't charge off micro USB

My friend's 2007 used mini-USB.

In fact, it's the only BlackBerry out of all the ones my friends have had (including their refurbs/replacements) that hasn't broken down entirely.


My BB Torch is about 3 years old. I have had in horrendous environments (construction sites with a wide variety of airborne particulates) and subjected it to many drops, falls and shocks. It still slides open smoothly and the screen is completely scratch-free. I suppose I could kill it by throwing into a lake or something, but it has proven its durability to me many times over.

/I still love the way it interacts with the Playbook tablet.
//Will replace the phone with the next-generation BB with the QNX OS to match the tablet
 
2012-10-17 04:09:17 PM

T.rex: rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.

There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.


i love how branders and marketers have created these studies to make people want to buy more useless shiat.

regardless, you can't put shoes and phones in the same category. one is openly visible to the public. your shoes are on constant display. the other you keep in your pocket or purse and really don't ever have any reason to show off in public. unless you're a bad person who thinks it's appropriate to talk on the phone in the company of others.

/ so, i guess if I can determine the type of phone you use, i can deduce that you are a horrible person for pulling out your phone in the middle of our encounter. otherwise, there is no reason for me to ever know what type of phone you use. it's your own damn business. like the brand of your wallet or cut of your underwear.
 
2012-10-17 04:11:54 PM

T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.


No, you see, shoes are actually a rather legit way to know that since there's a myriad of types, models, colors, prices, etc.

I'd give you a point if you meant CELLPHONES in general, but if you're on the Smartphone bracket, there's little you can tell from one brand to the other. Unless you use a Nokia which immediately means you're not NorthAmerican lol.

That's like saying you can tell jack about people because they use Nikes or Pumas instead of Adidas.
 
2012-10-17 04:14:54 PM
Headline reminded me of goofy time.

i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2012-10-17 04:15:46 PM

T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.


Ok so here are the shoes I wear (Santoni Goodyear, double monk strap):

25.media.tumblr.com

Here is my phone:

cdn.crackberry.com 

So I wonder what that says about me...
 
2012-10-17 04:20:14 PM

Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.



QFT. Use the device you like. Use what suits your own personal needs and taste. Don't be afraid to tell anyone who judges you on your choice of consumer electronics to get tae fark.

/not defined by my farking mobile
 
2012-10-17 04:26:26 PM
I work at a place that wouldn't exist without Mike Lazaridis and RIM. We use BlackBerries. We need e-mail, direct chat (BBM) and a reliable device.

My Bold 9900 may not have a 5" LCD but I don't need that. In a business sense, Android or BB would be the best tools.

iOS is old, it's now becoming a polished turd. BB10 is a brand new OS... RIM just might have a good re-launch of their brand but it won't be easy.
 
2012-10-17 04:32:41 PM
Work gives me a blackberry. Work also pays for my blackberry. You laugh at my out-of-date phone, I laugh at your monthly bill.
 
2012-10-17 04:38:36 PM

xynix: So I wonder what that says about me...


You're incredibly wealthy and get off by paying midget trannies to come on your shoes?
 
2012-10-17 04:49:35 PM

xynix: T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Ok so here are the shoes I wear (Santoni Goodyear, double monk strap):

[25.media.tumblr.com image 360x242]

Here is my phone:

[cdn.crackberry.com image 552x415] 

So I wonder what that says about me...


You sell real estate.
 
2012-10-17 04:53:11 PM
Jesus Christ, lady. Life is short...
 
2012-10-17 04:57:58 PM
"MOMMY MOMMY that man is creepy and he SCARES me".

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-17 05:03:15 PM
My Curve had a physical keyboard, a battery life at a conservative three days and was dropped about 50 times during my time with it.

Of the HTC Desire HD that I had and the S3 that I currently have; the Desire HD screen cracked after a third waist-level drop, I can't stand some of the quirks of the S3, and I was/am lucky to get a days use from a single charge.

I am a fan of the Android OS, though, and of course the screens on both DHD and the S3 are gorgeous.

/Android OS, huge hi-res screen, slideout physical keyboard, Blackberry network so battery lasts for more than a day would be the perfect phone.
 
2012-10-17 05:19:46 PM
I had one fall off my belt while on my bike at 70... Found it the next day... Scratched but fully functional...

Gotta give RIM credit for making them durable.
 
2012-10-17 05:53:31 PM

tomcatadam: Abner Doon: That they can't figure this out

They tooled around with the idea. There was an article a few months back on how they seriously considered it but ultimately found it to be an untenable option.


Balsilli was pitching it even after they fired him. Heinz has said it's BB10 or Death.

I'm guessing death, myself.
 
2012-10-17 05:55:20 PM

Cooper420: I work at a place that wouldn't exist without Mike Lazaridis and RIM. We use BlackBerries. We need e-mail, direct chat (BBM) and a reliable device.

My Bold 9900 may not have a 5" LCD but I don't need that. In a business sense, Android or BB would be the best tools.

iOS is old, it's now becoming a polished turd. BB10 is a brand new OS... RIM just might have a good re-launch of their brand but it won't be easy.


BB10 ain't never going to see the light of day. And if by chance they do manage to slide it out the door, it will be far too little, far too late.

I'm waiting for the next "BB10 has slipped (again)" announcement. Probably right after their next earnings call.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 06:10:27 PM
BB10 ain't never going to see the light of day. And if by chance they do manage to slide it out the door, it will be far too little, far too late.

It may be too late now, and it is at least 4 months away.
 
2012-10-17 06:11:02 PM
In related news, there are delicate flowers in the world who give a flying fark what others think, and fear being judged for their CHOICE OF PHONE.
 
2012-10-17 06:19:26 PM
My last BB was finally too banged up to be effective anymore after years of abuse. My new one is the buggiest POS I've ever used. Wife tells me to get an iPhone like hers and I have to constantly remind her that I can't even use her farking phone with my big fat meathooks. It's like trying to cook in the Barbie Playhouse Oven. So there's my choices, a phone I love to use that doesn't work or a phone I can't use that does work.
 
2012-10-17 06:25:00 PM

Soup4Bonnie: My last BB was finally too banged up to be effective anymore after years of abuse. My new one is the buggiest POS I've ever used. Wife tells me to get an iPhone like hers and I have to constantly remind her that I can't even use her farking phone with my big fat meathooks. It's like trying to cook in the Barbie Playhouse Oven. So there's my choices, a phone I love to use that doesn't work or a phone I can't use that does work.


Get yourself a Galaxy Note. It's OMG XBOX HUEG, so your meathooks will be right at home.
 
2012-10-17 06:49:29 PM

Soup4Bonnie: My last BB was finally too banged up to be effective anymore after years of abuse. My new one is the buggiest POS I've ever used. Wife tells me to get an iPhone like hers and I have to constantly remind her that I can't even use her farking phone with my big fat meathooks. It's like trying to cook in the Barbie Playhouse Oven. So there's my choices, a phone I love to use that doesn't work or a phone I can't use that does work.


Get a Galaxy Note.

Look at the size difference:

i-cdn.phonearena.com
 
2012-10-17 07:30:23 PM

rocky_howard: Soup4Bonnie: My last BB was finally too banged up to be effective anymore after years of abuse. My new one is the buggiest POS I've ever used. Wife tells me to get an iPhone like hers and I have to constantly remind her that I can't even use her farking phone with my big fat meathooks. It's like trying to cook in the Barbie Playhouse Oven. So there's my choices, a phone I love to use that doesn't work or a phone I can't use that does work.

Get a Galaxy Note.

Look at the size difference:

[i-cdn.phonearena.com image 850x637]


Jesus that's a bigass farking phone. I have a Galaxy Nexus and it's just bordering on too big for me, but then again I have human hands, and am not in fact the Hulk.
 
2012-10-17 08:03:01 PM

xynix: gingerjet: xynix: iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.

I have a hard time taking your "background and "expertise" with any seriousness if this is your bullshiat opinion on the iPhone. My take away is that you've never actually used one - especially in a corporate setting.

/spent years on blackberries - the quality of the product was widely inconsistant - some models were solid as rocks - others failed constantly

I've never used one in the corporate setting but I have used my girlfriends quite a few times to attempt writing emails. I've also had several iphone touches which use the same interface. I also use an ipad which has the same interface on a much larger screen and it's still a pain in the ass. Having seen my friends cracked phones or the alternative which is a bulky case I'm not a fan. I can toss my BB out my window right now and it will be just fine. After hearing people biatch about the battery life I'm also not a fan. I can fly down to Miami with a charge, use the phone all day, use GPS, and fly back to Atlanta on the same charge and still have enough for my alarm in the morning. If I don't have enough battery life though I have two spares that cost me $15 each in my bag.

So yes, with a bulky case you can indeed keep your iphone from having cracked glass. If you don't use it you'll have some nice battery life. However I enjoy keeping my phone in my back pocket and I barely feel the BB. My girls iphone is easily twice the weight and with the break-proof cover twice as bulky. It's small shiat like that .. I don't want to carry a damn holster around. I'm not a cop.

By the way it's not just iphones.. Having watched a ridicules video of some guy testing the new 5 vs some samsung doing a "drop test" and cracking glass from a normal fall out of the pocket.. it's just silly. I've never had a phone break when I took it out of my pocke ...


I'm confused. What on an iPhone/iPad (or Android) is making email difficult?

It's like 2 taps away at all times to compose an email. If its because touchscreen, try at it for more than 5 minutes. I'll admit I was slower at first but now I'm typing just as fast as I was on physical qwerty...
 
2012-10-17 08:06:05 PM

Abner Doon: I have human hands, and am not in fact the Hulk.


To be honest, I'd be fine using my Galaxy Tab 7" or Fire HD as a phone because I barely talk on them as it is and find the higher screen resolution and generally larger screens vastly more useful than the ability to get calls.

I've actually experimented with it, using my office's VoIP service to forward my calls to my Google Voice number and then to a softphone app on my tablets. It does work, but with a long enough delay on the ring that I can't quite get away with leaving things that way.

But I look forward to the day I don't have to carry around a tiny little 4.5" phone any more.
 
2012-10-17 08:11:20 PM

OriginalGamer: What on an iPhone/iPad (or Android) is making email difficult?


Android can be a little confusing for some people, since there's a difference between the Gmail experience using the Gmail app (which is sometimes hidden by the device OEM by virtue of not being on the Home Screen) and every other vendor-provided Email app. Gmail itself on Android is a little inflexible; I'm not a huge fan of Conversation view for example, but there's no way to retain Google's official app and turn it off, and it would be nice to be able to re-order the labels list. Vendor provided email apps are varying degrees of useful. HTC's isn't bad. Samsung's is kind of lousy. K9, available in the Play Store, supports push email like Gmail but doesn't play nice if it's on the same device as Gmail with an account configured.

Apple's problem is more "You use what we give you and you like it."
 
2012-10-17 08:17:29 PM

xynix: T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Ok so here are the shoes I wear (Santoni Goodyear, double monk strap):

[25.media.tumblr.com image 360x242]

Here is my phone:

[cdn.crackberry.com image 552x415] 

So I wonder what that says about me...


That you don't walk anywhere?

I used to spend a fortune on shoes but even really good ones wear out if you walk a lot, and resoling them only works if the leather hasn't also worn out by the time they need replaced. There's no point putting new treads on a shiatty looking shoe. Since I work in the DC area, winter is hell on shoes if you do any walking outside. So I bumped the budget down since I had to replace them every year anyway. $200 or less is fine by me. $700-800 is too much.
 
2012-10-17 08:21:07 PM

likefunbutnot: OriginalGamer: What on an iPhone/iPad (or Android) is making email difficult?

Android can be a little confusing for some people, since there's a difference between the Gmail experience using the Gmail app (which is sometimes hidden by the device OEM by virtue of not being on the Home Screen) and every other vendor-provided Email app. Gmail itself on Android is a little inflexible; I'm not a huge fan of Conversation view for example, but there's no way to retain Google's official app and turn it off, and it would be nice to be able to re-order the labels list. Vendor provided email apps are varying degrees of useful. HTC's isn't bad. Samsung's is kind of lousy. K9, available in the Play Store, supports push email like Gmail but doesn't play nice if it's on the same device as Gmail with an account configured.

Apple's problem is more "You use what we give you and you like it."


There are other email clients or iPhone (including Gmail, and Sparrow) on the App Store and honestly the apple provided client is very good (well, in my opinion :-p)
 
2012-10-17 08:28:06 PM

likefunbutnot: Abner Doon: I have human hands, and am not in fact the Hulk.

To be honest, I'd be fine using my Galaxy Tab 7" or Fire HD as a phone because I barely talk on them as it is and find the higher screen resolution and generally larger screens vastly more useful than the ability to get calls.

I've actually experimented with it, using my office's VoIP service to forward my calls to my Google Voice number and then to a softphone app on my tablets. It does work, but with a long enough delay on the ring that I can't quite get away with leaving things that way.

But I look forward to the day I don't have to carry around a tiny little 4.5" phone any more.


Huh, that's interesting. I have a cheap phone plan with no minutes so I actually use Google Voice for almost everything (and then just text or email for the rest obviously). You could give something called GrooVe IP a try on your tablet, it's what I use on my phone and it's pretty nice. It's a bit finicky about voice quality when I'm in bad reception, but 99% of the time when I want to make calls I'm at home with wifi anyway so it works out.
 
2012-10-17 08:40:35 PM

OriginalGamer: I'm confused. What on an iPhone/iPad (or Android) is making email difficult?

It's like 2 taps away at all times to compose an email. If its because touchscreen, try at it for more than 5 minutes. I'll admit I was slower at first but now I'm typing just as fast as I was on physical qwerty...


I don't think it's a difficulty issue as much as a way email is handled. Iphones and Android you use an email client. Blackberry has a push system set up for email, that is also encrypted. I am pretty sure my mother in law's email was hacked the other day based on the fact that the connection to the smtp/pop server isn't encrypted and the password is sent in plain text. I don't have her phone to actually test this theory, but I know my android has settings where you can set up an email account without any type of ssl. I might be wrong on all accounts here, but her email account was clearly hacked and she has been using her iphone exclusively to connect to it.
 
2012-10-17 08:54:50 PM

T.rex: rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.

There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.


Here's me:

a1.zassets.com

cdn.pocketnow.com

and I'll throw in my watch, since that's what men usually judge each other by:

www.ashton-blakey-antiques.com
 
2012-10-17 09:05:30 PM

Do the needful: OriginalGamer: I'm confused. What on an iPhone/iPad (or Android) is making email difficult?

It's like 2 taps away at all times to compose an email. If its because touchscreen, try at it for more than 5 minutes. I'll admit I was slower at first but now I'm typing just as fast as I was on physical qwerty...

I don't think it's a difficulty issue as much as a way email is handled. Iphones and Android you use an email client. Blackberry has a push system set up for email, that is also encrypted. I am pretty sure my mother in law's email was hacked the other day based on the fact that the connection to the smtp/pop server isn't encrypted and the password is sent in plain text. I don't have her phone to actually test this theory, but I know my android has settings where you can set up an email account without any type of ssl. I might be wrong on all accounts here, but her email account was clearly hacked and she has been using her iphone exclusively to connect to it.


Strange, on iOS (using push Gmail, an iCloud mail account, as well as an Outlook account) all 3 are push and use SSL. To be fair, for gmail to be push on iOS you have to manually set it up as an MS Exchange account, but it works.
 
2012-10-17 09:21:52 PM
to sum up the discussion:

BlackBerry has a keyboard and shiatty apps. People used to it like it.

iPhone has a touch screen and great apps. People who aren't fat or old like it.
 
2012-10-17 09:28:05 PM

OriginalGamer: Strange, on iOS (using push Gmail, an iCloud mail account, as well as an Outlook account) all 3 are push and use SSL. To be fair, for gmail to be push on iOS you have to manually set it up as an MS Exchange account, but it works.


Hers is a third party email that I am sure is set up as smtp. Not sure what the settings are for ssh so I really just have to assume that either someone got lucky with the password or at some point it was transmitted in plain text. Like I said, I could be completely wrong.
 
2012-10-17 09:34:15 PM

Lsherm: xynix: T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Ok so here are the shoes I wear (Santoni Goodyear, double monk strap):

[25.media.tumblr.com image 360x242]

Here is my phone:

[cdn.crackberry.com image 552x415] 

So I wonder what that says about me...

That you don't walk anywhere?

I used to spend a fortune on shoes but even really good ones wear out if you walk a lot, and resoling them only works if the leather hasn't also worn out by the time they need replaced. There's no point putting new treads on a shiatty looking shoe. Since I work in the DC area, winter is hell on shoes if you do any walking outside. So I bumped the budget down since I had to replace them every year anyway. $200 or less is fine by me. $700-800 is too much.


The difference between a pair of Pay-Less Shoes at $25 and a high brand costing hundreds of dollars is like night and day. I have odd feet and cheap dress shoes hurt my feet so much I can hardly walk. But a pair of quality shoes are a joy. Fortunately, cheap sneakers are not a problem so I don't end up spending all my money on expensive shoes.

Oh, my best shoes were completely hand made by a a master shoemaker. I got them about 25 years ago for $600. And they are still in perfect condidtion. I can't imagine what they would cost me now.
 
2012-10-17 09:38:33 PM

Kraftwerk Orange: T.rex: rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.

There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Here's me:

[a1.zassets.com image 240x240]

[cdn.pocketnow.com image 575x441]

and I'll throw in my watch, since that's what men usually judge each other by:

[www.ashton-blakey-antiques.com image 230x290]


late 40s, middle class and straight but single. How'd I do?
 
2012-10-17 09:39:38 PM
I wanted a smartphone with a keyboard and I needed for it to not be an android. And I've never met anybody outside of Farkers who actually give a shiat about what phone somebody else has.
 
2012-10-17 09:43:24 PM

OgreMagi: The difference between a pair of Pay-Less Shoes at $25 and a high brand costing hundreds of dollars is like night and day.


Well, duh, that's why I go for the solid midrange.
 
2012-10-17 10:10:03 PM

j_twelve: iPhone has a touch screen and great apps. People who aren't fat or old like it.


The iOS experience: "Oh. I want to do this. I can do it on my desktop computer and it's free. I can do it on Android and it's free. The app to do it on my iphone is either $2 or requires that I have a jailbroken phone in the first place."
$2 isn't a lot of money, but when every single one of the first dozen things I wanted to do with an ipad required me to either give another couple bucks to an app developer or reformat a significant amount of data just so I couple put it on the device in the first place (or worse, make multiple copies of it since one app can't use another app's data), I'm going to go ahead and say that's something other than a great experience.

I might be old and/or fat, but at least I recognize bullshiat when I see it.
 
2012-10-17 10:50:56 PM

Abner Doon: Kraftwerk Orange: T.rex: rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.

There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Here's me:

[a1.zassets.com image 240x240]

[cdn.pocketnow.com image 575x441]

and I'll throw in my watch, since that's what men usually judge each other by:

[www.ashton-blakey-antiques.com image 230x290]

late 40s, middle class and straight but single. How'd I do?


The only part you got right was straight.
 
2012-10-17 10:55:41 PM

xynix: So I wonder what that says about me...


You're slimy. Like used car dealer or lecherous Boss Hog type slimy. I think I can smell hair oil or Old Spice from here.
 
2012-10-17 11:43:00 PM

xynix: T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Ok so here are the shoes I wear (Santoni Goodyear, double monk strap):

[25.media.tumblr.com image 360x242]

Here is my phone:

[cdn.crackberry.com image 552x415] 

So I wonder what that says about me...


Show us your watch.

/doesn't wear a watch
 
2012-10-18 12:35:34 AM

xynix: T.rex: There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Ok so here are the shoes I wear (Santoni Goodyear, double monk strap):

[25.media.tumblr.com image 360x242]

Here is my phone:

[cdn.crackberry.com image 552x415] 

So I wonder what that says about me...


Your shoes are made of three pieces of leather. Worse than a blackberry.
 
2012-10-18 12:41:49 AM
Well, since we're doing this...

www.peltzshoes.com

www.htc.com

Tell me who I am.
 
2012-10-18 01:14:07 AM

Kraftwerk Orange: T.rex: rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.

There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Here's me:

[a1.zassets.com image 240x240]

[cdn.pocketnow.com image 575x441]

and I'll throw in my watch, since that's what men usually judge each other by:

[www.ashton-blakey-antiques.com image 230x290]



Cool watch but way overpriced for a bumper.

Only a watch nerd(WIS) will notice it.

/Has a few nice watches.
 
2012-10-18 01:16:43 AM

HeartBurnKid: Well, since we're doing this...

[www.peltzshoes.com image 360x220]

[www.htc.com image 500x455]

Tell me who I am.


A restaurant worker?

/me too
//but a manager so I carry a SGS3
 
2012-10-18 02:42:29 AM

Kraftwerk Orange: Abner Doon: Kraftwerk Orange: T.rex: rocky_howard: T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.


No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.

There was a high profile study recently (in fact, i believe i read about it here on Fark), where participants were shown nothing other than a picture of different people's shoes. With incredible accuracy, the participants were able to determine whether the shoe-owners were married, gay, what financial bracket they were in, whether they were an introvert or extrovert, their age, etc... It makes perfect sense to me. Whether or not you care to acknowledge it, the image we present outwardly to the world via little things like shoes or phones are excellent clues to the person within.

Here's me:

[a1.zassets.com image 240x240]

[cdn.pocketnow.com image 575x441]

and I'll throw in my watch, since that's what men usually judge each other by:

[www.ashton-blakey-antiques.com image 230x290]

late 40s, middle class and straight but single. How'd I do?

The only part you got right was straight.


Well, I guess we've disproved that study then, haven't we? SCIENCE!
 
2012-10-18 02:42:43 AM
Quite happy with my AT&T/Western Electric Trimline, circa 1984, with the lighted push-buttons that go boop, beep, beep.

Travels well between computer room and bedroom. Pretty color, too.
 
2012-10-18 06:14:55 AM
Go on then. What am I?

www.fluevog.com

images.pcworld.com 

luckysoandso.com 

/not gay, btw..
 
2012-10-18 06:18:11 AM

Gordon Bennett: Go on then. What am I?

[www.fluevog.com image 477x358]

[images.pcworld.com image 606x409] 

[luckysoandso.com image 440x500] 

/not gay, btw..


Hipster! *hiss*
 
2012-10-18 08:24:11 AM

rocky_howard: Oh, forgot about the keyboard. NOTHING beats a physical keyboard. Nothing.

I can type with my eyes closed with an accuracy of 90%.


Nothing ...or two weeks of touch screen and then you don't notice the difference
 
2012-10-18 08:58:41 AM
Can Blackberries do the following:

1) LTE hotspot
2) OTG support
3) Google Maps with turn by turn navigation
4) Support cloud music storage
5) Support HD Netflix/Hulu
6) Support Google Voice

If not, then there's no way I would ever want one.
 
2012-10-18 09:41:13 AM

tbhouston: rocky_howard: Oh, forgot about the keyboard. NOTHING beats a physical keyboard. Nothing.

I can type with my eyes closed with an accuracy of 90%.

Nothing ...or two weeks of touch screen and then you don't notice the difference


I have an iPod Touch. Believe me, it's not the same.
 
2012-10-18 10:45:24 AM

lilbjorn: "MOMMY MOMMY that man is creepy and he SCARES me".


Ha ha definitely a BB user!
 
2012-10-18 10:48:29 AM

rocky_howard: Soup4Bonnie: My last BB was finally too banged up to be effective anymore after years of abuse. My new one is the buggiest POS I've ever used. Wife tells me to get an iPhone like hers and I have to constantly remind her that I can't even use her farking phone with my big fat meathooks. It's like trying to cook in the Barbie Playhouse Oven. So there's my choices, a phone I love to use that doesn't work or a phone I can't use that does work.

Get a Galaxy Note.

Look at the size difference:


Cool! Large a large type phone for old people!
 
2012-10-18 11:30:52 AM
If people judge who you are by what phone you use, you're hanging out with the wrong people.
 
2012-10-18 02:07:08 PM
RTFA and just feel that Apple is screwing with people to encourage the fall of RIM. It may happen, but all the negative talk is just that, talk. The people who use a BB or playbook, generally like their phone or tablet. The rest is opinion, and everyone has one just like they have a$$holes.
As for being frowned upon for being a BB user, try to think who it is that is trying to look down their nose at you. They probably just handed you your coffee...
 
2012-10-18 02:30:27 PM

gadian: Gordon Bennett: Go on then. What am I?

[www.fluevog.com image 477x358]

[images.pcworld.com image 606x409] 

[luckysoandso.com image 440x500] 

/not gay, btw..

Hipster! *hiss*


What? Absurd. Just because I like vintage bits and bobs, car boot sales, irony, trendy cafes in Shoreditch and

oh.


It would appear that I am indeed a dickhead. (pops)
 
2012-10-18 03:21:33 PM

Abner Doon: My guess is that the people at top are too set in stone.


My guess is that it was a poor architecture decision by a technologist. Maybe the same one that made their phone so good for so long, who knows? In all likelihood they've got something wrong in their development process (waterfall methodology is a usual culprit). Whenever you see a company doing really well, and then change happens and they can't adjust, it's because of either bad process or bad architecture.
 
2012-10-18 08:26:09 PM

mccallcl: Abner Doon: My guess is that the people at top are too set in stone.

My guess is that it was a poor architecture decision by a technologist. Maybe the same one that made their phone so good for so long, who knows? In all likelihood they've got something wrong in their development process (waterfall methodology is a usual culprit). Whenever you see a company doing really well, and then change happens and they can't adjust, it's because of either bad process or bad architecture.


No, it was plain old arrogance. They looked at the iPhone and said it wasn't a credible threat, ignored it for four years banking on what they did over the last ten years, and now they're dead meat.

The forgot the one undeniable axiom of business: "That which got you here will not keep you here." Otherwise known as the "Adapt or die" rule.
 
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