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(The New York Times)   "MOMMY MOMMY that man is creepy and he SCARES me". "It's ok honey, the poor man isn't anything to worry about. He's just a Blackberry User"   (nytimes.com) divider line 113
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2012-10-17 01:03:31 PM  
That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.
 
2012-10-17 01:10:54 PM  
LA snob-people problems. Also, are Blackberries out-of-date and impractical enough for hipsters to use them yet?
 
2012-10-17 01:12:37 PM  
"I feel absolutely helpless," said Ms. Gossage.
"I'm ashamed of it," said Ms. Crosby
"You get used to that kind of rejection," she said.
"I want to take a bat to it," Ms. Crosby said


You'd think these people had AIDS or something.
 
2012-10-17 01:15:22 PM  

Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.


Better punishment: Make them use one of these for the rest of time:

www.blogcdn.com
 
2012-10-17 01:22:29 PM  
I enjoy my blackberry. I can type about 50 words a minute and punctuation is a breeze. It does exactly what I need it to do: Send/receive emails - Send/receive texts - makes phone calls.

If people want to sheep there way into the next ishiat product then be my guest. I'll be hanging on to the BB until the thing dies.. which after having it for 4 1/2 years of constant use and many drops (many many drops) it still seems to be performing perfectly.

This one is a gem and pure LOL worthy: "I feel absolutely helpless," said Ms. Gossage. "You're constantly watching people do all these things on their phones and all I have going for me is my family's group BBM chats."

I mean if that is the biggest worry of your life then you must have a pretty nice life Ms. Gossage.
 
2012-10-17 01:24:02 PM  
If a Blackberry is good enough for Christian Grey then it's good enough for me.
 
2012-10-17 01:37:36 PM  
The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.

But some of the BB users in the article just aren't that bright.

FTFA: "I constantly ask people, 'What is so great about it?' and they have these nonsensical answers," he said. "Someone told me I'm missing out on some app that maps their ski runs. I ski four days a year. On the road, I don't need a ski app."

Because of my profession, I run into this too- someone will ask me what's to like about the iPhone, without telling me what it is they do on a day-to-day basis. Of course my example runs the risk of striking them as useless- It's useful only because its an example of something highly specific that meets my particular needs. I would have to know a lot more about someone to pull something similar out of the air for their situation. I usually show them the whizzier stuff on my phone that they're capable of understanding- say, hitting my home video library with air video and playing a movie, or launching the slingbox app to play live TV from my satellite service. Sometime, the response is "why would I want to watch TV on my phone?", meaning that they've completely missed my point.
 
2012-10-17 01:42:32 PM  
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2012-10-17 01:52:39 PM  
NYT;DR
 
2012-10-17 01:53:30 PM  
What the hell is up with - ""I want to take a bat to it," Ms. Crosby said, after waiting for her phone's browser to load for the third minute, only to watch the battery die. "You can't do anything with it. You're supposed to, but it's all a big lie.""...

No duh you waited 3 minutes for your phone's browser to load, your battery was so critically low that it shut off, your radio was probably already disabled to try to stretch what little remaining battery life you had... it's the phone's fault you can't charge the damned thing??

That is without a doubt, the most one-sided, spite-filled article I've ever read about a technology...
 
2012-10-17 01:54:49 PM  

xynix: I mean if that is the biggest worry of your life then you must have a pretty nice life Ms. Gossage.


Apparently she's a "hedge fund manager". I tried googling, but didn't come up with much. Her company's website is just one page with an email address. She has a blanked out LinkedIn account.

I have to think a hedge fund manager can forego waiting for her contract to renew and just f'n buy one.
I'm not sure what they get paid, but to even invest in a hedge fun, you need to be an "accredited" investor. Something like $1,000,000 in liquid assetts, and an income of at least $250,000/yr. People managing those people's money must be doing quite well.

Also, I find Blackberry users to come across as very serious. You know the type. Your GM or VP or something is in a meeting or whatever, they pull out their device and it's a blackberry. Just sort of signifies to me that they don't have time to use everyone else's little toys. They need a device for business and that's it. Now stop staring kid and get back to work.
 
2012-10-17 01:58:42 PM  
FTFA: asked the concierge for a phone charger. "First he said, 'Sure.' Then he saw my phone and - in this disgusted tone - said, 'Oh no, no, not for that.' "

So he didn't have a microUSB charger? Bullshiat.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:49 PM  

Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.

Better punishment: Make them use one of these for the rest of time:

[www.blogcdn.com image 320x393]


fark, that phone has snake on it! better than 10 iphones!
 
2012-10-17 02:04:32 PM  
Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.
 
2012-10-17 02:04:47 PM  
Also, I'm a BlackBerry user.

I like it better than anything out there because it does what I want better than anything out there, i.e.: Communication.

I don't care about fancy "apps" or "Instagram" or whatever fart app you're using. People talk shiat about iPhone, I remember a few months ago, "Oh I can play DrawSomething on my iPhone." Well, are you playing it now? Cause 2-3 weeks after it blew up, nobody was playing it anymore. Most people who have iPhones are sheep. Seriously. They buy things not because they use it, but because other people do. And drop your anecdotes about how you can manage your media center, check on your investments and cure cancer with your iPhone, nobody cares. Great, you're not a sheep. Guess what? Everybody else is still one.

I can use Twitter, Facebook, FourSquare and WhatsApp with BlackBerry. That's enough for me.

I have perfect call signal. Great text messaging. Exclusive BBM chat messaging.

If you want to communicate, nothing beats a BlackBerry. Other phones get around with fancy screens and useless apps (iOS/Android do indeed have truly useful apps though).
 
2012-10-17 02:05:28 PM  
I actually just upgraded to Iphone after many, many good years with blackberry.

All my friend would tease me about blackberry, but the fact of the matter is I actually much prefer it to Iphone. Iphone has faster internet and I can play games on it, making it a fun weekend phone. But my email and typing is MUCH better and more reliable on blackberry, and that's what I need for work.

It's unfortunate I can't trade in the iphone as my time limit already passed. I had a Blackberry Style and for what I needed it worked great.
 
2012-10-17 02:08:48 PM  
Oh, forgot about the keyboard. NOTHING beats a physical keyboard. Nothing.

I can type with my eyes closed with an accuracy of 90%.
 
2012-10-17 02:11:01 PM  

Lollipop165: typing is MUCH better and more reliable on blackberry, and that's what I need for work


I'll say this: The windows phone keyboard is the best around. Bar none. Better than all of them. I'm almost on par with two-handed full keyboard typing. It's very very fast and solid.
 
2012-10-17 02:11:36 PM  

unyon: The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.


RIM really should just concentrate on a BES app for iPhone and Android. They've lost the fight for the best device, but they've still got the BES infrastructure to leverage.

It would make BYOD much easier.
 
2012-10-17 02:11:47 PM  
I have a Blackberry for work purposes, and an Android phone for personal use. The Blackberry is farking terrible. I hate the thing with a passion. I can't wait for my employer to embrace BYOD so I can be rid of the thing.
 
2012-10-17 02:12:15 PM  

Aarontology: Pocket Ninja: That article did an extraordinarily good job of making me want to line up everybody quoted in it and punch them in the face.

Better punishment: Make them use one of these for the rest of time:

[www.blogcdn.com image 320x393]



The funny thing is, those phones will last forever. They are farking durable.

www.everydaynodaysoff.com

/proud owner of a 3330 for 11 years
/had to replace the battery 5 years ago, though
/*wipes tears*
 
2012-10-17 02:17:44 PM  
I travel a lot overseas for work and I see most people with Blackberrys and Nokias of some sort or another.
 
2012-10-17 02:22:19 PM  
I started to think of ways that I could justify my continued BlackBerry use. The best I can come up with is that I'm poor and cheap, and as long as it keeps on working fine for what I use it for, I see no reason to replace it.

It's kind of funny- for the boomers when they were teenagers, the status symbol to have was a car. They were cheap enough/people had enough purchasing power back then that everybody could afford one. Nowadays, very few teens can afford a car, but many can afford to spend $200+ $50/month for the latest smartphone, which has become the status symbol du jour. What will happen in the future as our purchasing power continues to erode?
 
2012-10-17 02:23:02 PM  
You have to give RIM this, they had it together at one time. I had a bb, and it was accidentally dropped in a lake. A couple days later the replacement arrived. I plugged it in, fired up the desktop manager and within minutes you couldn't tell that it was a different phone. I didn't have the emails or texts since the last backup, but I backed up pretty regularly and everything down to the background image was restored. My wife, who did the dropping, was amazed.
 
2012-10-17 02:24:38 PM  

Spadababababababa Spadina Bus: What will happen in the future as our purchasing power continues to erode?


credit will continue to become easier and easier to acquire, all while bankruptcy will continue to grow more and more exceptions from discharge.
 
2012-10-17 02:27:11 PM  
Had a Blackberry Tour for a couple of years. The kind with the physical trackball. The sensor for the physical trackball broke, not for movement, but for clicking. Apparently there's a) no easy fix, and b) no way of re-mapping the button to some other key. The phone became essentially useless, since you need to use that click for everything.

Never getting Blackberry again.
 
2012-10-17 02:28:28 PM  

T.rex: Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.


Who are you people? Who the fark cares what kind of phone someone has?? Why would you care what someone thinks of your phone??

I just realized it... I think I've turned into my dad. shiat.
 
2012-10-17 02:29:58 PM  

clear_prop: unyon: The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.

RIM really should just concentrate on a BES app for iPhone and Android. They've lost the fight for the best device, but they've still got the BES infrastructure to leverage.

It would make BYOD much easier.


I think they have to keep making phones, but they should just switch to Android with their features on top. That they can't figure this out makes me think they're too stupid to live as a company, and it's probably already too late to really save the brand without a miracle.

It would be an easy sell, all of the cool parts of Android, the keyboard everyone likes, and they can have their fancy business shiat on top. Boom.

I remember actually LOLing when I heard that they weren't going with Android and were instead going to do all of that other OS retooling that they announced like last year or whatever.
 
2012-10-17 02:43:08 PM  

Abner Doon: That they can't figure this out


They tooled around with the idea. There was an article a few months back on how they seriously considered it but ultimately found it to be an untenable option.
 
2012-10-17 02:43:24 PM  
I carry two cell phones. My personal Droid (Samsung Galaxy SII) and my company Blackberry when I'm on call on alternating weeks. The Droid is a great phone with lots of features, but if I forget to put it on the charger every night, I'm screwed. The Blackberry can go almost a week on a single charge. It's also damn near indestructable. I've dropped it on concrete more times than I can remember and it still works (but I keep trying!).

It's a tool that works, not a farking fashion accessory. Get over it or buy an iPhone if you want to be trendy.
 
2012-10-17 02:44:38 PM  
That is without a doubt, the most one-sided, spite-filled article I've ever read about a technology...

You must not be reading the anti-Apple propaganda we get here every day.
 
2012-10-17 02:48:00 PM  
Should come to Canada, Blackberries are second only to iPhones in popularity.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 02:50:09 PM  
At work nobody mocks my year old BlackBerry because a coworker has a 3 year old BlackBerry. Nobody mocks him either, because he knows the root password to the servers.
 
2012-10-17 02:52:06 PM  

tomcatadam: Abner Doon: That they can't figure this out

They tooled around with the idea. There was an article a few months back on how they seriously considered it but ultimately found it to be an untenable option.


And now they're resigned to fighting over the third world, and nobody in the US would be caught dead buying one. I rest my case.

/ Yes, I know they were already doing shiatty for quite a while, but none of the reasons they gave were persuasive so it just came off like a failure to actually consider the option. My guess is that the people at top are too set in stone.
 
2012-10-17 02:52:55 PM  

OgreMagi: I carry two cell phones. My personal Droid (Samsung Galaxy SII) and my company Blackberry when I'm on call on alternating weeks. The Droid is a great phone with lots of features, but if I forget to put it on the charger every night, I'm screwed. The Blackberry can go almost a week on a single charge. It's also damn near indestructable. I've dropped it on concrete more times than I can remember and it still works (but I keep trying!).

It's a tool that works, not a farking fashion accessory. Get over it or buy an iPhone if you want to be trendy.


My old HTC G2 also took a number of concrete drops and kept on going. Its replacement, the One S, I haven't dropped yet, so we'll see how that goes.

I do agree with you that the one advantage the Blackberry really has is battery life, though.
 
2012-10-17 02:55:38 PM  

unyon: Because of my profession, I run into this too- someone will ask me what's to like about the iPhone, without telling me what it is they do on a day-to-day basis. Of course my example runs the risk of striking them as useless- It's useful only because its an example of something highly specific that meets my particular needs. I would have to know a lot more about someone to pull something similar out of the air for their situation. I usually show them the whizzier stuff on my phone that they're capable of understanding- say, hitting my home video library with air video and playing a movie, or launching the slingbox app to play live TV from my satellite service. Sometime, the response is "why would I want to watch TV on my phone?", meaning that they've completely missed my point.


I love the tech. Don't get me wrong.. As a consumer device the iphone is dandy. CSB: I was chief architect of this converged technology at Ericsson. I spent many a days in the bitter frosts of Sunsdvall, Sweden in 2001-2003 designing the back end for this stuff. Back then we had a dream of building devices that could be linked to cars and homes and everything was available in the cloud. We wanted a device that you could plug into your car's TV and watch a movie and when you got home plug it into your TV and continue the movie where you left off. Or even better a wireless infrastructure that would allow delivery from servers somewhere around the delivery point. We built the earliest forms of edge asset delivery and look-forward asset delivery.

I remember the first MMS handler we created and some of the first pictures taken by prototype phones wizzing through our infrastructure. Then came VMWare and we could now stack assets in racks and scale up to an infinite level. In 2005 or so I worked with Wind in Italy to create one of the first true MMS delivery platforms in the world.

This is awesome.. I mean it's really awesome to see what we worked so hard on building to be eaten up by consumers. I've made quite a lot of money and continue to because of heavy adoption of this stuff.

However I don't need an iphone to do business.

BB: Very durable, very easy to type on and create emails, battery life of days - charges in minutes, who the hell is going to steal a BB? Very cheap to replace if lost.
iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.

I have an ipad I use for giving presentations if I need to. It also has some apps and videos if I'm on a plane or stuck in a hotel somewhere .. i can also read kindle books on it. I find an iphone redundant and frankly a bad business tool.
 
2012-10-17 03:03:35 PM  

rogue_L_chick: T.rex: Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.

Who are you people? Who the fark cares what kind of phone someone has?? Why would you care what someone thinks of your phone??

I just realized it... I think I've turned into my dad. shiat.


Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.

My finacee had a crap phone, and although i hate Apple, i felt it was my duty to upgrade her to the iPhone. She didn't ask... i demanded she have a real phone.
 
2012-10-17 03:16:19 PM  

unyon: The things RIM does well, they do very well. As someone that has to support the corporate backend for mobile devices, I wish that rolling out iPhones, Android, and Windows phones was as evolved as BES. I've also migrated lots of companies from BB to iPhone, including my own.


The thing is - the stuff that RIM does well is the stuff that Google and Android are actively targeting while RIM fails to make any significant improvements of its own.

/and BES is a piece of shiat - always has been - the only reason people dealt for it for so long was that there wasn't any reasonable alternatives
 
2012-10-17 03:17:53 PM  

T.rex: Is what i'm saying that ridiculous? Its no different than the clothes someone allows themselves to appear in, or their shoes, or the car they drive,.... These days, your phone is an extension of you... One can deduce a lot about someone's decision making skills, status, technical prowess, etc, by their phone.



No. You can ASSUME stuff, but you can't deduce shiat from that.
 
2012-10-17 03:19:25 PM  

xynix: iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.


I have a hard time taking your "background and "expertise" with any seriousness if this is your bullshiat opinion on the iPhone. My take away is that you've never actually used one - especially in a corporate setting.

/spent years on blackberries - the quality of the product was widely inconsistant - some models were solid as rocks - others failed constantly
 
2012-10-17 03:21:19 PM  

T.rex: Thats funny... i always carry my personal Android along with my work Blackberry, thusly, someone is able to deduce that the Blackberry was forced upon me by my employment.


Same situation, work BB, personal Android, and I don't care what you think about either one. Though at work it is looking like we are going to Android in the near future.
 
2012-10-17 03:23:21 PM  

rocky_howard: FTFA: asked the concierge for a phone charger. "First he said, 'Sure.' Then he saw my phone and - in this disgusted tone - said, 'Oh no, no, not for that.' "

So he didn't have a microUSB charger? Bullshiat.


My thoughts exactly. Unless the dude is rocking a circa 1978 BB, I can't remember the last Android or BB phone that didn't charge off micro USB
 
2012-10-17 03:24:49 PM  
So no charger for it? Guy's a jerk, BBs use (or used to) the same flavour of USB as androids.
 
2012-10-17 03:27:08 PM  

xynix: BB: Very durable


Agreed. My BB Torch has very solid hardware. Much better than anything I've seen from Samsung, HTC or Motorola's Droid series. Too bad that it runs BB-OS instead of something else.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 03:29:22 PM  
I figured the guy who wouldn't charge a BB only had the Apple connector. Or the story was made up. One of those.
 
2012-10-17 03:30:49 PM  

gingerjet: xynix: iphone: Breaks when you look at it funny, a royal pain in the ass to create emails, battery life dependent on how much crap you've put on it, expensive to replace.

I have a hard time taking your "background and "expertise" with any seriousness if this is your bullshiat opinion on the iPhone. My take away is that you've never actually used one - especially in a corporate setting.

/spent years on blackberries - the quality of the product was widely inconsistant - some models were solid as rocks - others failed constantly


I've never used one in the corporate setting but I have used my girlfriends quite a few times to attempt writing emails. I've also had several iphone touches which use the same interface. I also use an ipad which has the same interface on a much larger screen and it's still a pain in the ass. Having seen my friends cracked phones or the alternative which is a bulky case I'm not a fan. I can toss my BB out my window right now and it will be just fine. After hearing people biatch about the battery life I'm also not a fan. I can fly down to Miami with a charge, use the phone all day, use GPS, and fly back to Atlanta on the same charge and still have enough for my alarm in the morning. If I don't have enough battery life though I have two spares that cost me $15 each in my bag.

So yes, with a bulky case you can indeed keep your iphone from having cracked glass. If you don't use it you'll have some nice battery life. However I enjoy keeping my phone in my back pocket and I barely feel the BB. My girls iphone is easily twice the weight and with the break-proof cover twice as bulky. It's small shiat like that .. I don't want to carry a damn holster around. I'm not a cop.

By the way it's not just iphones.. Having watched a ridicules video of some guy testing the new 5 vs some samsung doing a "drop test" and cracking glass from a normal fall out of the pocket.. it's just silly. I've never had a phone break when I took it out of my pocket and accidentally dropped it. Hell this iphone I have now flew out of my pocket into a puddle of water and kept the link to the concall I was on. farking boss.
 
2012-10-17 03:38:54 PM  

xynix: Hell this iphone BB I have now flew out of my pocket into a puddle of water and kept the link to the concall I was on. farking boss.


You knew what I meant :P
 
2012-10-17 03:42:33 PM  

redmid17: My thoughts exactly. Unless the dude is rocking a circa 1978 BB, I can't remember the last Android or BB phone that didn't charge off micro USB


My friend's 2007 used mini-USB.

In fact, it's the only BlackBerry out of all the ones my friends have had (including their refurbs/replacements) that hasn't broken down entirely.
 
2012-10-17 03:48:43 PM  

ZAZ: I figured the guy who wouldn't charge a BB only had the Apple connector. Or the story was made up. One of those.


Or the guy has a super-old BB with Mini-USB.
 
2012-10-17 03:50:59 PM  
My bold 9930 is one hell of a phone. T/S plus keyboard that is bigger than the old ones.

BBallin.

iPhones are for little kids and homeless people.

BB's are for keeping your life more efficient and organized, not the main focal point of your life.
 
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