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2012-10-17 11:48:57 AM
12 votes:
If your excuse for every failure is that the world is biased against you then maybe you're just farking wrong.
2012-10-17 11:48:37 AM
8 votes:
Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

But that's not where Obama won the Benghazi point. He won that when he savaged Romney for making political hay over the attack. He seemed empathic and imminently presidential during that part and rightly painted Romney as the opportunistic douchebag he clear is.
2012-10-17 11:59:44 AM
6 votes:
so remember - the god like John Galt Job Creators who bestride the world in their greatness, the ones from whom all blessings flow and who are smarter, faster, stronger than us mere mortals...can be defeated by a debate moderator.

kind of a let down, isn't it?
2012-10-17 02:23:45 PM
4 votes:
It is a serious problem that people actually use this "generic comment about terror, not specifically calling it a terrorist act" logic.

The problem is much larger than this specific instance. It happens all the time and (yes) with people of many different beliefs. This is not to say they all do it equally, and it is clear that this has been a major problem in the thinking of the modern day Republican party.

This type of logic is an "avoidance obsession". What happens is that someone facing a thought that would bring discomfort will expand all of the events around that thought. They will look around wildly as if it were all under a microscope, which throws out any contextual continuity and focuses entirely on a "small field of view". Then, they will look for a way to interpret any event around the thought in a way that brings some harmony to their desires and avoids cognitive dissonance. Once found, they can keep the tight focus on this very narrowly interpreted event and anytime they face the broaching of the subject causing the discomforting conclusions, they leap to the "happy place" they have found nearby.

So, when the President points out that he called the actions terroristic immediately, he is telling a truth that doesn't fit into the whole narrative that was being developed. It doesn't contradict that the administration suggested for some time that it was a spontaneous attack for reasons unrelated to US policy, which is the core outrage being attempted, and an open minded person who had not committed a worldview to the idea could easily take this information and still have questions about why there were these public professions of cause different from what was later revealed. But some people have made that commitment and inserted associated stories into their narrative that are threatened by the simple act of point out that the president called it an act of terror. Now, no thinking person would misunderstand "acts of terror" and "terrorist acts" as being vastly different references to the type of act perpetrated - in our modern world, these refer to violent, often deadly, acts used to promote some message and inflict fear on those with other beliefs or political goals. But just saying they are different allows a thought process where it is believed that again the President is lying and he can't be trusted and he didn't refer to them as terrorism and there is a big difference between a terrorist group like Al Qaeda and a mob inflicting terror and... so the outrage can continue and one doesn't need to concede anything.

Of course, when you actually consider the whole events, that there apparently was some information early on that it was a coordinated attack and there were mostly unrelated members of the administration making the few comments about it being due to the video, and eventually it was stated more bluntly that it was not, a few potential scenarios come to mind. This includes things like not wanting to blame any organisations or give certain organisations notoriety without proof, or possibly there were counter-intelligence operations underway that required the organisation that perpetrated the attack to believe it was not suspected, or possibly the intelligence community was weighing the potential explanations before committing to the administration, ... Many of the scenarios don't actually involve anything that people would be outraged about from the administration if the details came out. But it's hard to see what the political advantage would be to, say, simply lying (which I have seen suggested), and it doesn't seem like incompetence is being played as the primary source of anger here. The security detail was obviously incompetent, but there appear to be other reasons not being mentioned for why this is taken as such a negative moment.

When you see actions like this hyperfocus, it makes it clear that a large component of this talk about the Benghazi attacks is just trying to find some narrative which puts the administration in a bad light, beyond any actual analysis of what actually occurred. And that's why this type of action is such a serious problem. People in general find it far too easy to justify their worldviews by excluding data and using a variety of avoidance obsessions to prevent any real communication.

/or whatever
2012-10-17 01:47:54 PM
4 votes:
Fox News can't figure out why a journalist would have problems allowing lies to be told as the truth.
2012-10-17 01:13:02 PM
3 votes:

xanadian: I'm afraid this is one of those instances where I'll have to side with the conservatards...

Check out the timeline further down in the article. Sure, he mentions "terror" on Sept. 12, but refuses to tie in the Libya incident as a terrorist attack on Sept. 25.

According to the article, anyway.


The speech he referenced was absolutely, positively about the incident in question, first off.

Second, the paragraph in question:

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done."

The text very clearly refers the incident in question as an act of terror.

Furthermore, it is becoming increasingly clear that the attack did, indeed, use an existing protest as cover/excuse to begin the operation.

This is what it means to understand something in context.
2012-10-17 11:40:16 AM
3 votes:
If you're complaining about the moderator...
2012-10-17 02:09:24 PM
2 votes:

Snarky Acronym: Romney is incredibly thin skinned. I can't imagine him going head-to-head with an adversarial head of state. He's never had anyone stand up to him his entire life as Obama did last night. It's totally threw him off his game. Closest he's ever gotten to somebody that looks like Obama is the guy that shines his shoes. He can't fathom why he can't win against Obama, it's beyond his belief system.


It is kind of unbelievable to think that a black man could beat a white almost-protestant business fella in American politics. If I told you that would be the case in... sh*t... 2000, you'd call me insane.
2012-10-17 02:06:40 PM
2 votes:

CPennypacker: HeartBurnKid: CPennypacker: Yeah. Complaining about the moderator means you know you lost. Suck it up.

Lehrer did genuinely suck, though.

But somehow the liberal pundits still admitted Obama lost

Hell Chris Matthews almost had a meltdown on live television.


With Lehrer, everyone was observing that Lehrer sucked, but no one was spinning that as a factor in the debate. Republicans were saying that Romney won and that Lehrer sucked. Democrats were saying that Romney won and that Lehrer sucked.
2012-10-17 02:04:20 PM
2 votes:
Romney Wins

GOP: "Romney won!"
Dems: "Romney won!"

Obama Wins

GOP: "Romney won!"
Dems: "Obama won!"

This and the fact that the whining is reaching a frequency that only my dog can hear is pretty damned telling...
2012-10-17 02:02:09 PM
2 votes:
Here are 1000 words about how the night went for Romney/Republicans.

i1159.photobucket.com

Spin away, but Romney just showed everyone what an easily perturbed asshole he is. We'd be invading Iran 5 minutes into his presidency. And that's only if he has to eat a sandwich first or something. Loose Cannon.
2012-10-17 01:40:17 PM
2 votes:

Weaver95: Limbaugh just accused the Candy of 'journalistic terrorism' against Romney. I can't make this shiat up. He's REALLY desperate today.


wait a minute...
was it "an act of journalistic terror" or "an act of journalistic terrorism"? because apparently there is a difference.
2012-10-17 01:15:12 PM
2 votes:

Mentat: At least Limbaugh didn't wait 14 days to call her a terrorist.


republicans never wait to call anyone a terrorist.
2012-10-17 12:34:55 PM
2 votes:
its looking like the GOP shills groupmind response to Romney getting his ass kicked last night is gonna be something along the lines of 1. blame the moderator 2. Romney won and Obama lost and 3. debates don't matter...but if they DO matter then Romney won.

i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.
2012-10-17 12:28:44 PM
2 votes:
Gotta keep the base fired up after all. Gotta try to hold on to those undecideds.

Extremely disappointing that the fate of the country is decided by wishy washy people who can't be bothered to pay attention until the last 5 minutes of the game.
2012-10-17 12:12:30 PM
2 votes:

EnviroDude: Even the NFL had the decency to pull the replacement ref that was a Saints fan from officiating the Saints game. To expect as much courtesy in our debates, well, that is asking tooo much.

When you best hope of a win is to tag team with the moderator, then you really don't have much to run on;


Poor baby.

Romney's boxed himself in. He's shown in two debates that he'll try to bully the moderator and Crowley showed how you shut him down. His only options for the third debate are to double down and hope the third moderator is submissive, or else he has to be the submissive one and let Obama run wild. It's Romney's own fault for not being clever enough to pivot from debate to debate like Obama did.
2012-10-17 12:01:22 PM
2 votes:
Well, they do sort of have a point. Since reality has a liberal bias, and Ms. Crowley was attempting to make Romney stick to the truth, she was in effect supporting a left-leaning agenda.
2012-10-17 11:52:29 AM
2 votes:
Fox News being the ultimate arbiter of "fair and balanced" they have a lot of credibility on this subject.
2012-10-17 11:43:21 AM
2 votes:
Even the NFL had the decency to pull the replacement ref that was a Saints fan from officiating the Saints game. To expect as much courtesy in our debates, well, that is asking tooo much.

When you best hope of a win is to tag team with the moderator, then you really don't have much to run on;
2012-10-17 04:07:01 PM
1 votes:

vrax: codergirl42: Weaver95: I think part of what I find so fascinating about the GOP these days is their absolute belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong. there is zero doubt among any of them. the Democrats watched the first debate and most of them admitted that hey, Romney came out ahead. the GOP tho - Romney got his ass kicked last night and today ALL the Republicans are saying Romney won. they can't admit their guy did poorly.

that's amazing to watch...the almost fanatical religious belief in their own cause. scary sometimes too but still fascinating.

My step sister is one of the die hard republican types but she did admit she thought Obama won the debate. She then proceeded to call the moderator biased.

Is she also adopted from a "special needs" family?


Not adopted but each of us have "special needs" siblings...
2012-10-17 03:31:57 PM
1 votes:

Zapruder: Listen libtards, Fartbongo might have said that "No act of terror" will something something America, and it might have been said while he was talking about the Benghazi attacks, but that doesn't mean he said that it was an act of terror! It's math!

What he needed to say was,
"This was an act of terror. And by 'this' I mean the attack on Benghazi. It was an act of terror in Benghazi. It was a terrible act of terror in Benghazi that was an act of terror. Terror. Benghazi. Benghazi was under a terrorist attack when terrorists attacked Benghazi which was attacked by terror. Benghazi. Terror."


This reminds me of the "you didn't build that" bullshiat. Conservatives do not seem to handle context well.
2012-10-17 03:09:52 PM
1 votes:
Amusing how the Party of Personal Responsibility likes to blame everyone else for their problems and failures.
2012-10-17 02:49:44 PM
1 votes:

vastcat: Waiting for somebody to update the list of people scheming against the GOP to now include moderators.


List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood.
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Norman Rockwell
James Cameron
Dr. Seus
Nuns
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts
Jonathan Krohn at age 17
Fact Checkers
Australia
Mitt Romney
Rasmussen
Fox News
Lockheed Martin
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Paul Ryan
Debate Moderators 

/most recent I could find
2012-10-17 02:48:09 PM
1 votes:

mpirooz: Bullseyed: dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

Uh, she admitted that she and Obama are liars on national tv today...

Obama never called the attack in Libya an act of terror.

Get the transcript and search for terror. Tell me what you find.


Be aware that Bullseyed is a "birther". Do not expect rationality.
2012-10-17 02:47:16 PM
1 votes:
The whole point of this stupid "act of terror" attack angle is to try and portray Obama as incompetent against terrorism, and suggest that there was some kind of cover-up.

This all gets blown to stinky little paranoid bits when you remember just how many terrorists Obama has captured or killed, including Bin Laden and many of his top commanders, and how the Right was previously attacking him for being TOO AGGRESSIVE against terrorists (drone strikes and so forth). Not to mention, there WAS a protest going on at the same time as the terror attack, which was a source of confusion.

Add to that the fact that the GOP was trying to reduce security at embassies before this happened, and there is NO high ground for Romney or the GOP at all on the issue. It's a political trap issue and they'd best walk away from it fast instead of whining about the moderator or being fact-checked.
2012-10-17 02:45:33 PM
1 votes:

Bullseyed: dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

Uh, she admitted that she and Obama are liars on national tv today...

Obama never called the attack in Libya an act of terror.


Get the transcript and search for terror. Tell me what you find.
2012-10-17 02:40:28 PM
1 votes:

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: So, serious question, FarkCons: Romney finally blurted out his "five point plan" almost as a non-sequitur during that question about "Assure me you're not going to be another Bush" and this is what I got:

1. Energy Independence (it's implied)
2. Rattle the saber with China
3. Balance the budget
4. ???
5. Championing small business

The transcripts do nothing to help since Romney sucks even at basic counting, apparently.

What's number 4?

/number 4 count
//string 4 words


www.notentirelystable.com

"There... are... four... points!" 
2012-10-17 02:37:54 PM
1 votes:

3_Butt_Cheeks: " MSNBC Tingler-in-Chief Chris Matthews ..."

Annnnd we have a win.


so what was your view of the debate last night?
2012-10-17 02:20:00 PM
1 votes:

EnviroDude: Even the NFL had the decency to pull the replacement ref that was a Saints fan from officiating the Saints game. To expect as much courtesy in our debates, well, that is asking tooo much.

When you best hope of a win is to tag team with the moderator, then you really don't have much to run on;


s3.amazonaws.com
2012-10-17 02:16:10 PM
1 votes:

Philip Francis Queeg: MyRandomName: Why aren't liberals asking what Obama's specific plan to get 1 million manufacturing jobs is? You would expect then to ask the guy actually in government what his detailed policy is before the guy who is outside and will need to work with congressional leaders to formulate a plan... but that would require being logically consistent which fark liberals are incapable of.

Anerican Job Act


Ah, I see you're trying to combat GOP views with reason. Here's how this is going to go:

Them: "0bama doesn't have a plan!"
You: "Here's a link to his detailed plan."
Them: "He's spending money we don't have!"
You: "...but he has a plan. This is different from you saying he doesn't have a plan."
Them: "Benghazi!"
2012-10-17 02:16:00 PM
1 votes:

MyRandomName: sammyk: If Romney actually had anything of substance to say last night it would be all over the news. Instead we get this.

I think I will actually listen to Rush today just to hear him cry

So by your assertion, Obama stated nothing of substance either. Good to know.

Why aren't liberals asking what Obama's specific plan to get 1 million manufacturing jobs is? You would expect then to ask the guy actually in government what his detailed policy is before the guy who is outside and will need to work with congressional leaders to formulate a plan... but that would require being logically consistent which fark liberals are incapable of.


There is a clear difference. Many of us in the middle class fear that Romny's secret magic is "fark the middle class and lower taxes for the wealthy". We aren't sure what Obama's plan is either but we are pretty clear it isn't "fark the middle class and lower taxes for the wealthy" so he gets to get away with less scrutiny.
2012-10-17 02:14:18 PM
1 votes:
If you're splitting hairs between calling something an "act of terror" and "terrorism" you've long since lost.

Seriously Republicans, get some goddamned pride.
2012-10-17 02:06:08 PM
1 votes:

Hollie Maea: I think Romney is in a bit of trouble in regards to the final debate. The only topic that snap poll responders scored him good on last night was the economy (apparently undecided voters like platitudes...who knew?). But the final debate will only be on foreign policy topics, so Mitt will be hard pressed to spend the whole time bleating about the economy.


Oh, that's easy.

"That's a great question about the Arab Spring, but I'd like to go back to last week's debate question about how awful Obama has been for the economy."

"That wasn't even one of the questions last week."

"Well, it SHOULD have been. Anyway...about that Obama failing us on the economy thing..."
2012-10-17 02:04:31 PM
1 votes:
i1159.photobucket.com

please proceed Governor.
2012-10-17 02:02:53 PM
1 votes:
I'll take any opportunity to post the last words of the debate. I'm so happy that Romney won the coin toss, guaranteeing that Obama would end the night.


I believe Governor Romney is a good man. Loves his family, cares about his faith. But I also believe that when he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considered themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about.

Folks on Social Security who've worked all their lives. Veterans who've sacrificed for this country. Students who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams, but also this country's dreams. Soldiers who are overseas fighting for us right now. People who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax, gas taxes, but don't make enough income.

And I want to fight for them. That's what I've been doing for the last four years. Because if they succeed, I believe the country succeeds.

When my grandfather fought in World War II and he came back and he got a G.I. Bill and that allowed him to go to college, that wasn't a handout. That was something that advanced the entire country. And I want to make sure that the next generation has those same opportunities.
That's why I'm asking for your vote and that's why I'm asking for another four years.


The only way that could have been better would be if Obama had dropped his mic when he was done.
2012-10-17 02:02:51 PM
1 votes:

tomcatadam: Weaver95: Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.

Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs.

Reminded me of my first portable cd player. It too tended to repeat the same line over
and over
and over
when it was breaking down.


now vote for me so i have have a job in the government and use the government to create 12 million jobs.
christ, what an asshole.
2012-10-17 02:02:20 PM
1 votes:

tomcatadam: Weaver95: Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.

Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs.

Reminded me of my first portable cd player. It too tended to repeat the same line over
and over
and over
when it was breaking down.


I caught that. it was strange to see Romney go off like that. I think he was really starting to lose it by that point in the debate.
2012-10-17 02:01:15 PM
1 votes:
Romney has now critically blown every foreign policy moment in this campaign. He insulted the British on their own territory, he jumped up and down with glee on the bodies of four dead Americans, and he can't even get his most basic facts right in his trumped up attacks on the administration.

It's pretty clear: this man is not fit to handle foreign policy. He might even be worse at it than Bush.
2012-10-17 02:00:26 PM
1 votes:
I find the whole issue stupid.  As a country we historically tend to make REALLY stupid policy decisions when the first reaction is to play the blame game before getting all the facts.
2012-10-17 01:59:32 PM
1 votes:

Lando Lincoln: 3. Romney is a dickbag that always has to get the last word.


That's what made it so awesome to see Obama drop the 47% bomb in the only possible way that would guarantee that Romney could not respond.
2012-10-17 01:56:34 PM
1 votes:

Mentat: Weaver95: Rush is saying that the GOP won, that debates don't matter and that you are stupid if you think Obama beat Romney. Oh, and that debates don't matter, but Romney won and Obama was stuttering and sweating and failure incarnate...not that it mattered because MODERATORS and the lying, so many lies and none of it mattered but if it did matter than Romney won.

What Rush Limbaugh saw:

[imageshack.us image 400x276]

What the rest of us saw:

[imageshack.us image 500x412]


Speaking of Newt, am I the only person who noticed that Obama stole Romney's line from the primaries? When Newt was going on about the moon bases, Romney said "If an executive came to me with a plan to build a trillion dollar moon base with no idea on how it was going to be funded, I would have that man fired." Obama said basically the same exact line about Romney's tax plan when he was going over how many trillions it would cost
2012-10-17 01:53:52 PM
1 votes:

Snarky Acronym: Romney is incredibly thin skinned. I can't imagine him going head-to-head with an adversarial head of state. He's never had anyone stand up to him his entire life as Obama did last night. It's totally threw him off his game. Closest he's ever gotten to somebody that looks like Obama is the guy that shines his shoes. He can't fathom why he can't win against Obama, it's beyond his belief system.


yeah, I noticed a lot of people making similar observations. Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.
2012-10-17 01:52:16 PM
1 votes:
Romney is incredibly thin skinned. I can't imagine him going head-to-head with an adversarial head of state. He's never had anyone stand up to him his entire life as Obama did last night. It's totally threw him off his game. Closest he's ever gotten to somebody that looks like Obama is the guy that shines his shoes. He can't fathom why he can't win against Obama, it's beyond his belief system.
2012-10-17 01:50:52 PM
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: If rMoney lost why is he up in the Gallup poll even high than before the debate?

Link


Could it be because the poll was conducted before the debate? Pro tip: If a poll is released after an event but the interviews were all conducted before the event, that poll actually reflects the reality before the event, not after.
2012-10-17 01:50:50 PM
1 votes:

THX 1138: Weaver95: catching the Limbaugh hour right now (@weaverXP if you want to join me)

Thanks Weav. Didn't realize you did more than just give us the occasional summary here on Fark.


one nice thing about technology is that I have so MANY ways to be opinionated!
2012-10-17 01:49:26 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: catching the Limbaugh hour right now (@weaverXP if you want to join me)


Thanks Weav. Didn't realize you did more than just give us the occasional summary here on Fark.
2012-10-17 01:47:26 PM
1 votes:
Fox looks tired.
2012-10-17 01:37:00 PM
1 votes:
Yeah. Complaining about the moderator means you know you lost. Suck it up.
2012-10-17 01:34:36 PM
1 votes:
There are two things that are definitely true:

1. The set of people who won a debate and the set of people whining about the moderator is a null set.

2. The set of people who say "well it was a tie" and the set of people who did not lose a debate is a null set.
2012-10-17 01:33:12 PM
1 votes:
Conservatives were outraged
2012-10-17 01:08:23 PM
1 votes:

Aarontology: Weaver95: i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.

They've been like that for at least three 30 years, dude.


FTFY

When they decided that Reagan's treason was best dealt with by renaming Washington National and trying to get his face on Rushmore it was pretty clear they would never fix their own issues.
2012-10-17 01:04:51 PM
1 votes:
I'm afraid this is one of those instances where I'll have to side with the conservatards...

Check out the timeline further down in the article. Sure, he mentions "terror" on Sept. 12, but refuses to tie in the Libya incident as a terrorist attack on Sept. 25.

According to the article, anyway.
2012-10-17 12:52:07 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: Aarontology: Weaver95: i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.

They've been like that for at least three years, dude.

yeah but it's getting worse!


They're seeing a previously winning strategy start to get holes poked in it. They are desperately hanging on and flailing as madly as they can because they don't have a backup plan in place yet as they hung all their hats on this one. They have been the party of guns, god and gay(bashing) for years now, 30+ years, and they don't have a ground game that is as inclusive as the (D) because they put all their energy in satisfying an increasingly selfish and demanding base.

Yeah they're getting worse, because every single demographic shift is against their party, so they need to do as much damage and instill as much preventative legislation as possible to try and hold on to a way to maintain power in a world that finds them increasingly hostile and out of touch.

In other words, actually being conservative, inasmuch as resisting change that is happening all around them.
2012-10-17 12:51:47 PM
1 votes:

sammyk: NewportBarGuy: Weaver95: yeah but it's getting worse!

They're getting older, more senile, and increasingly willing to drive right through Farmers Markets filled with their perceived enemies.

/I'm listening too. Day off today.
//Can only take a little more of his idiocy.

Listening too. This is so childish.


pay attention to the first hour tho, this is what the GOP shills will be saying for the rest of the week.
2012-10-17 12:47:09 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: yeah but it's getting worse!


I'm really curious what they'll do when Obama wins re-election and the Democrats hold onto the Senate. Especially if the GOP loses seats in the House.

I'll bet Mitch McTurtle flat out says they're going to block everything and anything that comes through.
2012-10-17 12:40:14 PM
1 votes:
Republicans sure are whiny.
2012-10-17 12:36:19 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.


They've been like that for at least three years, dude.
2012-10-17 12:32:14 PM
1 votes:
FTA: Conservatives were outraged, arguing that Crowley's interruption spoiled a key Romney point.

So, they are mad that Romney didn't get the chance to keep lying? What a bunch of dickwads.
2012-10-17 12:31:29 PM
1 votes:

Weaver95: Limbaugh is more than a bit incoherent today.


Rush sounds upset. Did somebody change the setting on his Sleep Number(tm) bed? Or maybe he missed a payment on his Quicken Loan?
2012-10-17 12:30:52 PM
1 votes:

Elandriel: Gotta keep the base fired up after all. Gotta try to hold on to those undecideds.

Extremely disappointing that the fate of the country is decided by wishy washy people who can't be bothered to pay attention until the last 5 minutes of the game.


Nah, everyone's talking about undecideds but the REAL race is for each party to get more of their people to their polling places.
2012-10-17 12:22:26 PM
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Weaver95: catching the Limbaugh hour right now (@weaverXP if you want to join me) and it looks like the official GOP mantra on this debate loss is going to be 1. Romney won. 2. Obama lost badly and 3. MODERATORS omg moderators so many moderators!


This is exactly what they did in 2008. I hate that they simply cannot accept defeat, ever. There is NO grace and no effort on their part to be anything but rash and stubborn.
2012-10-17 12:16:10 PM
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catching the Limbaugh hour right now (@weaverXP if you want to join me) and it looks like the official GOP mantra on this debate loss is going to be 1. Romney won. 2. Obama lost badly and 3. MODERATORS omg moderators so many moderators!
2012-10-17 12:11:46 PM
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I love how these assholes are putting a NewsBusters article on their main page:

Dan Gainor is the Boone Pickens Fellow and the Media Research Center's Vice President for Business and Culture.



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"I'm Brent Bozell and I approve this vomitous blog post masquerading as news commentary. It's what we do best."
2012-10-17 12:01:46 PM
1 votes:
Romney didn't lose, and if he did lose it's cause you cheated!
2012-10-17 11:53:20 AM
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EnviroDude: Even the NFL had the decency to pull the replacement ref that was a Saints fan from officiating the Saints game. To expect as much courtesy in our debates, well, that is asking tooo much.

When you best hope of a win is to tag team with the moderator, then you really don't have much to run on;


Get a new line.

http://www.fark.com/comments/7378391/79971963#c79971963

EnviroDude [TotalFark] 2012-10-12 12:46:33 PM

oldfarthenry: Poor Ryan. He spent hours in the gym doing all those crunchies & reps only to get slapped into submission by Biden's liver-spotted dick.

Considering that Martha Radzattz and Biden double teamed him, Ryan didn't do bad. I suppose if he had told Biden to STFU, then the left would have had puppies for him dissing the VP. Radzattz should have controlled the debate, but as she is in titz deep in the Obama campaign, you wouldn't expect anything less.

As I was told in High School by my coach, "When you are biatchin' about the refs or how the other teams acts, well, you're usually getting your arse kicked." Of course, even the NFL had the courtesy to remove the pro-Saints replacement ref from the Saints game he was scheduled to officiate. Guess having an insider to double team is fair if you are Obama and losing a campaign you were winning two weeks ago.
2012-10-17 11:48:19 AM
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EnviroDude: When you best hope of a win is to tag team with the moderator, then you really don't have much to run on;


And when you have to work the refs to dispel the notion you lost....

Well, its pretty well covered in this thread already.
2012-10-17 11:44:17 AM
1 votes:
Losers whine about the moderators
 
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