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2012-10-17 02:27:09 PM  

Weaver95: Aarontology: Weaver95: i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.

They've been like that for at least three years, dude.

yeah but it's getting worse!


I've been seeing their evolution from conservative, to insane. At least the vocal ones, there are still some conservatives left.
 
2012-10-17 02:28:00 PM  

MyRandomName: Why aren't liberals asking what Obama's specific plan to get 1 million manufacturing jobs is?


Step 1) Get rid of all Republicans in Congress
Step 2) Finally pass the American Jobs Act
 
2012-10-17 02:28:08 PM  
Waiting for somebody to update the list of people scheming against the GOP to now include moderators.
 
2012-10-17 02:30:15 PM  
" MSNBC Tingler-in-Chief Chris Matthews ..."

Annnnd we have a win.
 
2012-10-17 02:30:46 PM  

EyeballKid: [i1159.photobucket.com image 850x471]
"DID I SAY TO BRING UP THE '36 DUESENBURG, PORTERHOUSE? THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? I ALWAYS DRIVE THE '47 ROLLS ON TUESDAYS! YOU HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR NOT KNOWING THAT! HURRY WITH THAT, AND IF I SEE SO MUCH AS A SPOT ON THE LEATHER INTERIOR, I SWEAR TO GOD..."


Does anyone know when that "Angry Romney" photo was taken? Was it after the Libya pwnage, or at at some other point?
 
2012-10-17 02:30:50 PM  

fruitloop: My favorite Romney stutter of the debate was "He's great as a - as a - a - a - as a speaker".


I like the Romney stutters because they're the indication that the bullshiat he was about to spout was fresh - something he hadn't prepared before, or something that he and his staff went over only very briefly.

You can just imagine his campaign managers crapping their pants every time he started to stutter.
 
2012-10-17 02:30:55 PM  

Philip Francis Queeg: MyRandomName: Why aren't liberals asking what Obama's specific plan to get 1 million manufacturing jobs is? You would expect then to ask the guy actually in government what his detailed policy is before the guy who is outside and will need to work with congressional leaders to formulate a plan... but that would require being logically consistent which fark liberals are incapable of.

Anerican Job Act


That's what Republicans don't get: the media isn't pressing Obama on more specifics because even if he doesn't go into major detail he's actually put forward bills related to the issue and will be happy to argue the issue on them.

Mitt Romney doesn't have these policies written up in a way it could be submitted to Congress. The closest we have is the Paul Ryan budget, a plan that Romney has said he supports and actually has the backing of the vast majority of Republican members of Congress. However if you ask him about anything controversial in the Ryan plan he immediately backs off, says his plan won't have anything people don't like about the Ryan plan, and he knows it cuts the deficit even without anything some people dislike because he's a businessman and he knows how to make it work.
 
2012-10-17 02:31:08 PM  
If I had to rank the "terror act" exchange on the scale of things I even remotely gave a fark about last night, with 1 being "not a single fark was given" and 10 being "I gave a lot of farks", I think that the exchange in question ranked about a 2, maybe a 3. Who gives a rats ass about who was quicker to call it an act of terror. Is it considered an admirable trait now to leap to conclusions before all the facts are in and just give a judgment based on your gut feeling when you're arguably the most powerful person in the world? How is that to be considered a good thing?
 
2012-10-17 02:31:27 PM  
i47.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-17 02:31:42 PM  

tomcatadam: To conflate "act of terror" and terrorism is disengenious, true


I don't think it is - most people would see "act of terror" and "terrorist act" as synonymous, I think. Indeed that's probably why Mitt himself went with the former when trying to advance his "Obama is weak on terror" case.
 
2012-10-17 02:31:43 PM  
Just an FYI -- the Democrats didn't whine this much after the last debate.

/life-long unaffiliated voter
 
2012-10-17 02:31:44 PM  

ex0du5: It is a serious problem that people actually use this "generic comment about terror, not specifically calling it a terrorist act" logic...


To make a long story short: They took something and reinterpreted it to their own ends.
 
2012-10-17 02:33:15 PM  
If we're discussing Rush Limbaugh, and I say that people should know better than to listen to braindead hacks, did I or did I not just call Rush Limbaugh a braindead hack?
 
2012-10-17 02:34:33 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Just an FYI -- the Democrats didn't whine this much after the last debate.

/life-long unaffiliated voter


Even when attempting to present "excuses" for the results of the previous debate, supporters of President Obama attempted to explain causes of the President's poor performance rather than suggest a bias against the President by the moderator.
 
2012-10-17 02:34:52 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Just an FYI -- the Democrats didn't whine this much after the last debate.

/life-long unaffiliated voter


I don't score debates on the "media" analysis. I know who won or lost by the volume and frequency of the whining coming from the tea partiers in my office.
 
2012-10-17 02:35:20 PM  
I wonder what it's like for Mitt to be thoroughly shown up, (embarrassed really), in front of a worldwide audience. How he processes that in light of the fact that he obviously feels entitled to the highest office must be a work of hideous cognitive art. I suspect he said "how dare they" or "don't they know who I am" at some point today.
 
2012-10-17 02:35:38 PM  

NateGrey: I was waiting for Romney to touch Obama, and see the secret service pounce.


Hmm. Considering that Romney now has Secret Service protection too, would they really have pounced, or would it have to be an obvious attack first?
 
2012-10-17 02:37:24 PM  
So, serious question, FarkCons: Romney finally blurted out his "five point plan" almost as a non-sequitur during that question about "Assure me you're not going to be another Bush" and this is what I got:

1. Energy Independence (it's implied)
2. Rattle the saber with China
3. Balance the budget
4. ???
5. Championing small business

The transcripts do nothing to help since Romney sucks even at basic counting, apparently.

What's number 4?

/number 4 count
//string 4 words
 
2012-10-17 02:37:54 PM  

3_Butt_Cheeks: " MSNBC Tingler-in-Chief Chris Matthews ..."

Annnnd we have a win.


so what was your view of the debate last night?
 
2012-10-17 02:38:18 PM  

Brubold: Actually now Romney gets to revisit the Libya situation again and this time he has quotes from Anderson Cooper, Politico, and even Crowley that back up his statement on the situation. Obama talked about how bad it was for Romney to try and score political points over the attack all while Obama was trying to paint a narrative that made him look blameless before the election.


"Question to Obama (paraphrased): Are you responsible/to blame for Ambassador Stephens' death?

Obama (paraphrased): Yes, the buck stops with me. I'm ultimately accountable. I'm responsible.

General public reaction to debate: Obama won.

GOP: *fingers in ears* LALALALALALLALALALALALA can't hear you over our victory celebration 'cause Mitt pwned so fantastically. We won! We won! Wargggghhhaaaaarrrrbbbllllll

So, basically:
Obama: I own that failure.
GOP: We still refuse to acknowledge failure or even the remote possibility.


Yup, sure looked like he was trying to weasel out the blame to me.
 
2012-10-17 02:38:26 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Just an FYI -- the Democrats didn't whine this much after the last debate.


Who's whining? The Left is calling it like it is, just like they have for every debate so far, and the Right is going crazy on how it wasn't an Obama win, and let me tell you exactly why, in 47 parts...
 
2012-10-17 02:38:31 PM  

dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.


Uh, she admitted that she and Obama are liars on national tv today...

Obama never called the attack in Libya an act of terror.
 
2012-10-17 02:38:42 PM  

Weaver95: I think part of what I find so fascinating about the GOP these days is their absolute belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong. there is zero doubt among any of them. the Democrats watched the first debate and most of them admitted that hey, Romney came out ahead. the GOP tho - Romney got his ass kicked last night and today ALL the Republicans are saying Romney won. they can't admit their guy did poorly.

that's amazing to watch...the almost fanatical religious belief in their own cause. scary sometimes too but still fascinating.


My step sister is one of the die hard republican types but she did admit she thought Obama won the debate. She then proceeded to call the moderator biased.
 
2012-10-17 02:39:30 PM  

notShryke: Weaver95: I think part of what I find so fascinating about the GOP these days is their absolute belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong

OMG. You just broke the record for interwebz projection.


Amazing stuff.
 
2012-10-17 02:39:58 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Yep. Candy Crowley forced Romney to be uninformed about POTUS's comments in the Rose Garden.


Except in the actual transcript Obama never calls it an act of terror. She admitted to lying in order to help Obama this morning on national tv.
 
2012-10-17 02:40:28 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: So, serious question, FarkCons: Romney finally blurted out his "five point plan" almost as a non-sequitur during that question about "Assure me you're not going to be another Bush" and this is what I got:

1. Energy Independence (it's implied)
2. Rattle the saber with China
3. Balance the budget
4. ???
5. Championing small business

The transcripts do nothing to help since Romney sucks even at basic counting, apparently.

What's number 4?

/number 4 count
//string 4 words


www.notentirelystable.com

"There... are... four... points!" 
 
2012-10-17 02:40:51 PM  

Biological Ali: tomcatadam: To conflate "act of terror" and terrorism is disengenious, true

I don't think it is - most people would see "act of terror" and "terrorist act" as synonymous, I think. Indeed that's probably why Mitt himself went with the former when trying to advance his "Obama is weak on terror" case.


The thing that annoys me is that this happened a month ago and just today is the first time I've ever heard anyone make that distinction. It just smacks of goalpost moving.
 
2012-10-17 02:41:31 PM  
Reactions from my local Tea Party meeting at the diner this morning --

The Grand Poobah walked up behind me and started to talk directly to me, but instead turned to the passing waitress (to avoid talking to me) and angrily shouted, "THEY'RE BOTH CLOWNS! So what we're gonna do is vote the black clown out, vote the Republican clown in, and then replace him in four years!"
 
2012-10-17 02:42:10 PM  

PanicMan: The thing that annoys me is that this happened a month ago and just today is the first time I've ever heard anyone make that distinction. It just smacks of goalpost moving.


This is where we are? A few weeks before the election and Romney's people are arguing f*cking semantics? Guys, get your sh*t together. Seriously.
 
2012-10-17 02:44:00 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: 1. Energy Independence (it's implied)


P.S. Romney's Energy Independence plan is apparently "build more pipelines from Canada".

He also mentioned the USA could be Energy Independent in 8 years. My jaw dropped.
 
2012-10-17 02:44:10 PM  

Bullseyed: AdolfOliverPanties: Yep. Candy Crowley forced Romney to be uninformed about POTUS's comments in the Rose Garden.

Except in the actual transcript Obama never calls it an act of terror. She admitted to lying in order to help Obama this morning on national tv.


Please post the link in which she admits lying to help Obama just so everybody here doesn't think you're partisan hack who's full of sh*t. Go on... post it...
 
2012-10-17 02:45:06 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Lando Lincoln: Hollie Maea: There are two things that are definitely true:

1. The set of people who won a debate and the set of people whining about the moderator is a null set.

2. The set of people who say "well it was a tie" and the set of people who did not lose a debate is a null set.

3. Romney is a dickbag that always has to get the last word.

Bzzt. Sorry, your assertions must be phrased in terms of set theory.


Romney {x | x is a dickbag that always has to get the last word}?
 
2012-10-17 02:45:27 PM  
Candy Crowley, 10/17/12: "Now, did the president say this was an act of terror? The president did not say it."

So either she is a liar this morning or was a liar last night.
 
2012-10-17 02:45:33 PM  

Bullseyed: dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

Uh, she admitted that she and Obama are liars on national tv today...

Obama never called the attack in Libya an act of terror.


Get the transcript and search for terror. Tell me what you find.
 
2012-10-17 02:46:00 PM  

MyRandomName: sammyk: If Romney actually had anything of substance to say last night it would be all over the news. Instead we get this.

I think I will actually listen to Rush today just to hear him cry

So by your assertion, Obama stated nothing of substance either. Good to know.

Why aren't liberals asking what Obama's specific plan to get 1 million manufacturing jobs is? You would expect then to ask the guy actually in government what his detailed policy is before the guy who is outside and will need to work with congressional leaders to formulate a plan... but that would require being logically consistent which fark liberals are incapable of.


You sound irritable. Bad evening?
 
2012-10-17 02:46:10 PM  

Weaver95: 3_Butt_Cheeks: " MSNBC Tingler-in-Chief Chris Matthews ..."

Annnnd we have a win.

so what was your view of the debate last night?


Boring for the most part, the interruptions were annoying and some of the questions picked were pretty weak. Overall, nothing new and nothing I would see as swaying any of the hopelessly undecided.
 
2012-10-17 02:46:33 PM  

MyRandomName: dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

But that's not where Obama won the Benghazi point. He won that when he savaged Romney for making political hay over the attack. He seemed empathic and imminently presidential during that part and rightly painted Romney as the opportunistic douchebag he clear is.

Do liberals honestly not believe it was a political calculation to blame a movie without any facts to assert that proposition? Holy shiat what a dumb stance to take.


You're just pissed that Romeny's farked up his attempt to sling shiat at Obama over the Benghazi attack.

So, just to be clear, what do you think the political motivation was? What nefarious scheme was Obama hatching by waiting to clearly say that the attack was part of an al Qaeda affiliated group's attack? What OUTRAGE! was he trying to hide?
 
2012-10-17 02:46:34 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: So, serious question, FarkCons: Romney finally blurted out his "five point plan" [...] What's number 4?


Collect underpants.

/oh, serious question ... can't help you
 
2012-10-17 02:47:16 PM  
The whole point of this stupid "act of terror" attack angle is to try and portray Obama as incompetent against terrorism, and suggest that there was some kind of cover-up.

This all gets blown to stinky little paranoid bits when you remember just how many terrorists Obama has captured or killed, including Bin Laden and many of his top commanders, and how the Right was previously attacking him for being TOO AGGRESSIVE against terrorists (drone strikes and so forth). Not to mention, there WAS a protest going on at the same time as the terror attack, which was a source of confusion.

Add to that the fact that the GOP was trying to reduce security at embassies before this happened, and there is NO high ground for Romney or the GOP at all on the issue. It's a political trap issue and they'd best walk away from it fast instead of whining about the moderator or being fact-checked.
 
2012-10-17 02:48:01 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: So, serious question, FarkCons: Romney finally blurted out his "five point plan" almost as a non-sequitur during that question about "Assure me you're not going to be another Bush" and this is what I got:

1. Energy Independence (it's implied)
2. Rattle the saber with China
3. Balance the budget
4. ???
5. Championing small business

The transcripts do nothing to help since Romney sucks even at basic counting, apparently.

What's number 4?

/number 4 count
//string 4 words


I don't remember if he said it or not, but it's supposed to be "expanding trade with Latin America".
 
2012-10-17 02:48:04 PM  

Bullseyed: Obama never called the attack in Libya an act of terror.


You're precious.
 
2012-10-17 02:48:09 PM  

mpirooz: Bullseyed: dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

Uh, she admitted that she and Obama are liars on national tv today...

Obama never called the attack in Libya an act of terror.

Get the transcript and search for terror. Tell me what you find.


Be aware that Bullseyed is a "birther". Do not expect rationality.
 
2012-10-17 02:48:44 PM  
You knew that Fox News and Limbaugh would be spinning and biatching all day
Predictable republicans are predictable.
Fact is Romney got rattled and we saw who he really was under pressure. Everything the Democrats painted him out to be.
 
2012-10-17 02:49:19 PM  

Bullseyed: So either she is a liar this morning or was a liar last night.


Obama did in fact say "acts of terror". She's just trying to appease everyone at once.
 
2012-10-17 02:49:32 PM  

Bullseyed: Candy Crowley, 10/17/12: "Now, did the president say this was an act of terror? The president did not say it."

So either she is a liar this morning or was a liar last night.


He did call it an act of terror. He didn't endorse that it was an official terrorist attack - simply because it was too soon. The media (specifically CNN) will try to play to the middle on this issue to appease the right but it simply won't work. He directly referred to it as an act of terror. There is simply no way around this. Romney just failed in articulating the question - he focused on the Rose Garden comments and in those comments, as I said, Obama explicitly referred to the situation at Benghazi as an act of terror.
 
2012-10-17 02:49:44 PM  

PanicMan: Biological Ali: tomcatadam: To conflate "act of terror" and terrorism is disengenious, true

I don't think it is - most people would see "act of terror" and "terrorist act" as synonymous, I think. Indeed that's probably why Mitt himself went with the former when trying to advance his "Obama is weak on terror" case.

The thing that annoys me is that this happened a month ago and just today is the first time I've ever heard anyone make that distinction. It just smacks of goalpost moving.


And the best part is: let's just say that Romney's right. Let's pretend that Obama never said "act of terror" in the speech.

So, the accusation is that the Commander in Chief refused to jump to conclusions that could escalate a bad situation out of control? This is really what he wants to accuse Obama of? Being responsible?

"American people, if elected I will be wildly clownish, unlike this boring professional we have as a President today."

If the Republicans are smart they'll drop the subject and hope people forget about it in the next three weeks.
 
2012-10-17 02:49:44 PM  

vastcat: Waiting for somebody to update the list of people scheming against the GOP to now include moderators.


List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats
Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood.
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Norman Rockwell
James Cameron
Dr. Seus
Nuns
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts
Jonathan Krohn at age 17
Fact Checkers
Australia
Mitt Romney
Rasmussen
Fox News
Lockheed Martin
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Paul Ryan
Debate Moderators 

/most recent I could find
 
2012-10-17 02:50:09 PM  
MusicMakeMyHeadPound:

But seriously:

this is what I got:

1. Energy Independence (it's implied)
2. Rattle the saber with China
3. Balance the budget
4. ???
5. Championing small business


1. Energy independence on North America by 2020.
2. Trade (confront China, open new markets).
3. Education (public schools, access to higher education, job retraining).
4. Cut the deficit.
5. Champion small business.
 
2012-10-17 02:50:16 PM  

PanicMan: It just smacks of goalpost moving.


Nah, it's desparately clinging to anything that Obama can be attacked with. At this point, they're trying to give him a paper cut with tissue paper.
 
2012-10-17 02:50:23 PM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: So, serious question, FarkCons: Romney finally blurted out his "five point plan" almost as a non-sequitur during that question about "Assure me you're not going to be another Bush" and this is what I got:

1. Energy Independence (it's implied)
2. Rattle the saber with China
3. Balance the budget
4. ???
5. Championing small business

The transcripts do nothing to help since Romney sucks even at basic counting, apparently.

What's number 4?

/number 4 count
//string 4 words


1. Drill, baby, drill
2. Fix public education by eliminating teacher's unions
3. Slap China's knuckles with a ruler for cheating on trade policies
4. Cut the deficit with magic
5. Repeal Obamacare, deregulate the hell out of everything and eliminate more unions
 
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