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2012-10-17 01:49:26 PM

Weaver95: catching the Limbaugh hour right now (@weaverXP if you want to join me)


Thanks Weav. Didn't realize you did more than just give us the occasional summary here on Fark.
 
2012-10-17 01:49:37 PM

Weaver95: its looking like the GOP shills groupmind response to Romney getting his ass kicked last night is gonna be something along the lines of 1. blame the moderator 2. Romney won and Obama lost and 3. debates don't matter...but if they DO matter then Romney won.

i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.


Sniveling insipid butthurt. Got it.

Is anyone really surprised with this?
 
2012-10-17 01:50:10 PM

Gilligann: Then they went to a group of undecided voters and asked them who they think won. Romney of course was the answer. 90% of these people were over 60, and all were white.


I watched that too. Loved the fawning for 'job creators'. And the last guy that spoke...in the baseball hat....let's just say I'd be very curious to find out what that Fark Independent does for a living.
 
2012-10-17 01:50:38 PM
Sounds like someone has their magic underwear all in a bunch....

If the Right could admit at least once that they were wrong/lost/said the wrong thing I might have a little respect for them
 
2012-10-17 01:50:50 PM

THX 1138: Weaver95: catching the Limbaugh hour right now (@weaverXP if you want to join me)

Thanks Weav. Didn't realize you did more than just give us the occasional summary here on Fark.


one nice thing about technology is that I have so MANY ways to be opinionated!
 
2012-10-17 01:50:52 PM

Smeggy Smurf: If rMoney lost why is he up in the Gallup poll even high than before the debate?

Link


Could it be because the poll was conducted before the debate? Pro tip: If a poll is released after an event but the interviews were all conducted before the event, that poll actually reflects the reality before the event, not after.
 
2012-10-17 01:50:56 PM

riverwalk barfly: I think her interjection into the debate was inappropriate. But what is done cannot be undone. Beautiful.


it was inappropriate to call out bullshiat?
i wish the moderators would do it more often. hell, they should have a buzzer and when a candidate is talking out of his ass like
i.ytimg.com
BZZZZZZZZZZZZ
sorry sir, but you are full of shiat, talking out of your ass, and have now lost the floor. please sit down so that your butt cannot produce any more sounds.
 
2012-10-17 01:51:12 PM

Aarontology: Weaver95: yeah but it's getting worse!

I'm really curious what they'll do when Obama wins re-election and the Democrats hold onto the Senate. Especially if the GOP loses seats in the House.

I'll bet Mitch McTurtle flat out says they're going to block everything and anything that comes through.


Would that be such a bad thing, though? If nothing gets done, taxes go up and spending - largely defense - gets cut.
 
2012-10-17 01:51:14 PM
"Tingler-in-Chief Chris Matthews"

WTF does that mean?
 
kab
2012-10-17 01:51:28 PM

Dr. DJ Duckhunt: Fox looks tired.


They're betting on the whole "if we just keep repeating it enough, it will stick" angle with this.
 
2012-10-17 01:51:34 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Losers whine about the moderators


While winners whine about magic handkerchiefs.
 
2012-10-17 01:52:14 PM

ShawnDoc: Weaver95: Rush is saying that the GOP won, that debates don't matter and that you are stupid if you think Obama beat Romney. Oh, and that debates don't matter, but Romney won and Obama was stuttering and sweating and failure incarnate...not that it mattered because MODERATORS and the lying, so many lies and none of it mattered but if it did matter than Romney won.

I liked the part when he implied Fox News was part of a media conspiracy to make Romney look bad. Then he started saying the problem was that people were comparing Obama to Romney, when what they should have been doing was comparing Obama to Obama's performance in 2008, and since he wasn't as good last night as he was in 2008, that means Romney won.


Sweet. By that logic I can beat Michael Phelps in the 200m fly. Hey, he did better when he broke his own world record in 2009 than he did smoking the shiat outta me just now. So I win!!!
 
2012-10-17 01:52:16 PM
Romney is incredibly thin skinned. I can't imagine him going head-to-head with an adversarial head of state. He's never had anyone stand up to him his entire life as Obama did last night. It's totally threw him off his game. Closest he's ever gotten to somebody that looks like Obama is the guy that shines his shoes. He can't fathom why he can't win against Obama, it's beyond his belief system.
 
2012-10-17 01:52:35 PM

NewportBarGuy: Weaver95: yeah but it's getting worse!

They're getting older, more senile, and increasingly willing to drive right through Farmers Markets filled with their perceived enemies.

/I'm listening too. Day off today.
//Can only take a little more of his idiocy.


Great metaphor. I'm stealing it.
 
2012-10-17 01:52:44 PM

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: EnviroDude is so precious.

There's two possibilities: Either they think they're a clever troll or they actually are that detached from reality.

Both are just *precious*. It's like watching an 8 year old try to engage in political discussion and wants to be taken seriously.


Pretty much.
 
2012-10-17 01:53:10 PM
Conservatives were outraged, arguing that Crowley's interruption spoiled a key Romney point. misstatement.

FTFFox
 
2012-10-17 01:53:38 PM

TwoHead: trying to get his face on Rushmore


WTF, really? I've never heard this before, and I lived in Rapid City for three years. (Put another way, I had a view of Mount Rushmore on 9/11.)

Assuming it's true, that's hilarious/sad.
 
2012-10-17 01:53:52 PM

Snarky Acronym: Romney is incredibly thin skinned. I can't imagine him going head-to-head with an adversarial head of state. He's never had anyone stand up to him his entire life as Obama did last night. It's totally threw him off his game. Closest he's ever gotten to somebody that looks like Obama is the guy that shines his shoes. He can't fathom why he can't win against Obama, it's beyond his belief system.


yeah, I noticed a lot of people making similar observations. Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.
 
2012-10-17 01:54:22 PM

Hollie Maea: There are two things that are definitely true:

1. The set of people who won a debate and the set of people whining about the moderator is a null set.

2. The set of people who say "well it was a tie" and the set of people who did not lose a debate is a null set.



3. Romney is a dickbag that always has to get the last word.
 
2012-10-17 01:56:18 PM

Weaver95: I think part of what I find so fascinating about the GOP these days is their absolute belief that they are right and everyone else is wrong. there is zero doubt among any of them. the Democrats watched the first debate and most of them admitted that hey, Romney came out ahead. the GOP tho - Romney got his ass kicked last night and today ALL the Republicans are saying Romney won. they can't admit their guy did poorly.

that's amazing to watch...the almost fanatical religious belief in their own cause. scary sometimes too but still fascinating.


Which will make Obama (hopefully) winning next month all the more satisfying. The biatching and moaning will be delicious.
 
2012-10-17 01:56:31 PM

Larry Mahnken: I can't believe that there's people who think EnviroDude is serious.


He's not as good at it as Pocket Ninja, what can I say?

/Poe's Law
//and he's using actual talking points
 
2012-10-17 01:56:34 PM

Mentat: Weaver95: Rush is saying that the GOP won, that debates don't matter and that you are stupid if you think Obama beat Romney. Oh, and that debates don't matter, but Romney won and Obama was stuttering and sweating and failure incarnate...not that it mattered because MODERATORS and the lying, so many lies and none of it mattered but if it did matter than Romney won.

What Rush Limbaugh saw:

[imageshack.us image 400x276]

What the rest of us saw:

[imageshack.us image 500x412]


Speaking of Newt, am I the only person who noticed that Obama stole Romney's line from the primaries? When Newt was going on about the moon bases, Romney said "If an executive came to me with a plan to build a trillion dollar moon base with no idea on how it was going to be funded, I would have that man fired." Obama said basically the same exact line about Romney's tax plan when he was going over how many trillions it would cost
 
2012-10-17 01:56:34 PM

Weaver95: yeah, I noticed a lot of people making similar observations. Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.


ANSWER THE QUESTION

Well, I-

ANSWER THE QUESTION

The answer i-

ANSWER THE QUESTION

Can I get a wo-

ANSWER THE QUESTION
 
2012-10-17 01:56:40 PM
Oh, cry moar you petulant children.
 
2012-10-17 01:56:50 PM
GOP Goes Full Mcenroe. Romney nearly got laughed out of the room last night for being a disinformation dispenser, and rightly so.
 
2012-10-17 01:56:56 PM

Lando Lincoln: Hollie Maea: There are two things that are definitely true:

1. The set of people who won a debate and the set of people whining about the moderator is a null set.

2. The set of people who say "well it was a tie" and the set of people who did not lose a debate is a null set.

3. Romney is a dickbag that always has to get the last word.


Bzzt. Sorry, your assertions must be phrased in terms of set theory.
 
2012-10-17 01:57:01 PM

Larry Mahnken: I can't believe that there's people who think EnviroDude is serious.


He's serious. We shouldn't take him seriously, but he's serious.
 
2012-10-17 01:57:08 PM

indylaw: Weaver95: i'm actually worried about the GOP. its looking like they've decided to simply ignore reality and not even bother trying to fix their own issues.

So alcoholics then.


Hey, don't lump me in with these bozos!
 
2012-10-17 01:57:25 PM

xanadian: I'm afraid this is one of those instances where I'll have to side with the conservatards...

Check out the timeline further down in the article. Sure, he mentions "terror" on Sept. 12, but refuses to tie in the Libya incident as a terrorist attack on Sept. 25.

According to the article, anyway.


So you think he just said "terror" for the hell of it on the 12th, then?
 
2012-10-17 01:57:25 PM
Why haven't I seen as much anti-moderator outrage at Crowley for suggesting that Mitt Romney might have to alter his plan if it turns out that the numbers don't work.

Sure the Washington Post shows that even setting the cap to the lowest mark he's suggested ($17,000) would only cover less than a quarter of the cost of his tax cuts, but Romney swears he's done the math on whatever the number the cap will turn out to be and it will be revenue neutral. I mean, it's not like their role model of a perfect president passed a tax cut that was too severe and had to spend several years tweaking it to try to cover the revenue losses. Surely the fact that he knows it will work is all the proof you will ever need.

MittRomney-WalterWhite-because-I-say-so.jpg
 
2012-10-17 01:58:00 PM

CPennypacker: Yeah. Complaining about the moderator means you know you lost. Suck it up.


Lehrer did genuinely suck, though.
 
2012-10-17 01:58:20 PM
FTA: "In the baseball playoffs, many fans believe the tie goes to the runner."

What they believe is irrelevant. The MLB rulebook states that the runner must beat the ball to the base, and that is how umpires are expected to judge.

If the arbitrator appears to be siding with the other guy against your guy, it might just be because the other guy is objectively correct and yours isn't.
 
2012-10-17 01:58:23 PM
I think Romney is in a bit of trouble in regards to the final debate. The only topic that snap poll responders scored him good on last night was the economy (apparently undecided voters like platitudes...who knew?). But the final debate will only be on foreign policy topics, so Mitt will be hard pressed to spend the whole time bleating about the economy. He's at a decided disadvantage when it comes to foreign policy; the only foreign policy topic for which some considered him to have an advantage was Libya, and he shat the bed with that one last night.

Conservative commentators are already howling about how much it sucks for the final debate to be on foreign policy.
 
2012-10-17 01:59:09 PM

HeartBurnKid: CPennypacker: Yeah. Complaining about the moderator means you know you lost. Suck it up.

Lehrer did genuinely suck, though.


But somehow the liberal pundits still admitted Obama lost

Hell Chris Matthews almost had a meltdown on live television.
 
2012-10-17 01:59:23 PM

Weaver95: Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.


Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs.

Reminded me of my first portable cd player. It too tended to repeat the same line over
and over
and over
when it was breaking down.
 
2012-10-17 01:59:32 PM

Lando Lincoln: 3. Romney is a dickbag that always has to get the last word.


That's what made it so awesome to see Obama drop the 47% bomb in the only possible way that would guarantee that Romney could not respond.
 
2012-10-17 02:00:26 PM
I find the whole issue stupid.  As a country we historically tend to make REALLY stupid policy decisions when the first reaction is to play the blame game before getting all the facts.
 
2012-10-17 02:00:52 PM

James!: If you're complaining about the moderator...


She gave Obama a three minute speaking advantage (which he still biatched about) and interrupted Romney something like 20 more times than she did Obama. Not to mention some obviously planted questions.

Yeah, no bias there.

Despite all of that, polls show that Obama didn't win by all that much and Romney cleaned his clock on the most important subject (the economy). Even with the deck stacked in O's favor he still couldn't pull out the sort of momentum swinging victory he needed.
 
2012-10-17 02:01:15 PM
Romney has now critically blown every foreign policy moment in this campaign. He insulted the British on their own territory, he jumped up and down with glee on the bodies of four dead Americans, and he can't even get his most basic facts right in his trumped up attacks on the administration.

It's pretty clear: this man is not fit to handle foreign policy. He might even be worse at it than Bush.
 
2012-10-17 02:01:55 PM
The terrorist attack that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and four others in Benghazi has become a sore point for Obama
 
2012-10-17 02:01:58 PM

Hollie Maea: I think Romney is in a bit of trouble in regards to the final debate. The only topic that snap poll responders scored him good on last night was the economy (apparently undecided voters like platitudes...who knew?). But the final debate will only be on foreign policy topics, so Mitt will be hard pressed to spend the whole time bleating about the economy. He's at a decided disadvantage when it comes to foreign policy; the only foreign policy topic for which some considered him to have an advantage was Libya, and he shat the bed with that one last night.

Conservative commentators are already howling about how much it sucks for the final debate to be on foreign policy.


WE NEED TO START A LANDWAR IN EAST ASIA.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:09 PM
Here are 1000 words about how the night went for Romney/Republicans.

i1159.photobucket.com

Spin away, but Romney just showed everyone what an easily perturbed asshole he is. We'd be invading Iran 5 minutes into his presidency. And that's only if he has to eat a sandwich first or something. Loose Cannon.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:11 PM

Fuggin Bizzy: Lando Lincoln: Hollie Maea: There are two things that are definitely true:

1. The set of people who won a debate and the set of people whining about the moderator is a null set.

2. The set of people who say "well it was a tie" and the set of people who did not lose a debate is a null set.

3. Romney is a dickbag that always has to get the last word.

Bzzt. Sorry, your assertions must be phrased in terms of set theory.


Okay, fine.

3. The set of candidates named Mitt Romney and the set of candidates whose egos will allow them to not get the last word in a debate topic is a null set.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:20 PM

tomcatadam: Weaver95: Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.

Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs.

Reminded me of my first portable cd player. It too tended to repeat the same line over
and over
and over
when it was breaking down.


I caught that. it was strange to see Romney go off like that. I think he was really starting to lose it by that point in the debate.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:35 PM

Weaver95: Snarky Acronym: Romney is incredibly thin skinned. I can't imagine him going head-to-head with an adversarial head of state. He's never had anyone stand up to him his entire life as Obama did last night. It's totally threw him off his game. Closest he's ever gotten to somebody that looks like Obama is the guy that shines his shoes. He can't fathom why he can't win against Obama, it's beyond his belief system.

yeah, I noticed a lot of people making similar observations. Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.


Another thing I noticed was that Obama was really laser sharp. He didn't stammer and hmm and uh a lot like he has in the past when he's had to think on his feet. It was remarkable turn around.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:47 PM

Aarontology: I'll bet Mitch McTurtle flat out says they're going to block everything and anything that comes through.


"The Republican party's singular focus is to make Obama a one-term president. Two terms at most. No more than that! The Republican party will not allow Barack Obama to rewrite the Constitution and serve a third or fourth term."
 
2012-10-17 02:02:51 PM

tomcatadam: Weaver95: Romney did NOT like being talked back too, and looked like he was barely containing his petulant rage.

Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs. Government does not create jobs.

Reminded me of my first portable cd player. It too tended to repeat the same line over
and over
and over
when it was breaking down.


now vote for me so i have have a job in the government and use the government to create 12 million jobs.
christ, what an asshole.
 
2012-10-17 02:02:53 PM
I'll take any opportunity to post the last words of the debate. I'm so happy that Romney won the coin toss, guaranteeing that Obama would end the night.


I believe Governor Romney is a good man. Loves his family, cares about his faith. But I also believe that when he said behind closed doors that 47 percent of the country considered themselves victims who refuse personal responsibility, think about who he was talking about.

Folks on Social Security who've worked all their lives. Veterans who've sacrificed for this country. Students who are out there trying to hopefully advance their own dreams, but also this country's dreams. Soldiers who are overseas fighting for us right now. People who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax, gas taxes, but don't make enough income.

And I want to fight for them. That's what I've been doing for the last four years. Because if they succeed, I believe the country succeeds.

When my grandfather fought in World War II and he came back and he got a G.I. Bill and that allowed him to go to college, that wasn't a handout. That was something that advanced the entire country. And I want to make sure that the next generation has those same opportunities.
That's why I'm asking for your vote and that's why I'm asking for another four years.


The only way that could have been better would be if Obama had dropped his mic when he was done.
 
2012-10-17 02:03:01 PM

dameron: Awww. She didn't let Romney lie to the camera with a big smile on his face. Boo farking hoo.

But that's not where Obama won the Benghazi point. He won that when he savaged Romney for making political hay over the attack. He seemed empathic and imminently presidential during that part and rightly painted Romney as the opportunistic douchebag he clear is.


Do liberals honestly not believe it was a political calculation to blame a movie without any facts to assert that proposition? Holy shiat what a dumb stance to take.
 
2012-10-17 02:03:50 PM

Hollie Maea: I think Romney is in a bit of trouble in regards to the final debate. The only topic that snap poll responders scored him good on last night was the economy (apparently undecided voters like platitudes...who knew?). But the final debate will only be on foreign policy topics, so Mitt will be hard pressed to spend the whole time bleating about the economy. He's at a decided disadvantage when it comes to foreign policy; the only foreign policy topic for which some considered him to have an advantage was Libya, and he shat the bed with that one last night.

Conservative commentators are already howling about how much it sucks for the final debate to be on foreign policy.


Actually now Romney gets to revisit the Libya situation again and this time he has quotes from Anderson Cooper, Politico, and even Crowley that back up his statement on the situation. Obama talked about how bad it was for Romney to try and score political points over the attack all while Obama was trying to paint a narrative that made him look blameless before the election.
 
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