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(Grantland)   Willem Dafoe happily signs on for another creepy, sex-focused Lars Von Trier film despite the gruesome, ball crushing from his past experience   (grantland.com) divider line 45
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2012-10-17 01:30:01 PM
Could be worse...could be starring with Madonna again.
 
2012-10-17 01:52:16 PM
Willem Dafoe and Uma Thurman in a creepy sex film? It just might work!
 
2012-10-17 01:59:02 PM

gopher321: Could be worse...could be starring with Madonna again.


I admit, that scene in the parking garage was hot.

/Should I be ashamed?
 
2012-10-17 02:02:57 PM
So, funny thing about Willem Dafoe. His name sounds like it's being spoken by a frog, then a parrot.

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Willem. DA-FOE! Willem. DA-FOE!
 
2012-10-17 02:03:53 PM
I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women? I'd think for most actresses who can pick what roles they want, screamy/violent/rapey sex wouldn't rank that high on a list of must-dos.
 
2012-10-17 02:14:34 PM
So ... I keep going back and forth on whether I should watch Melancholia. Is it worth the time?
 
2012-10-17 02:17:24 PM
C'mon, von Trier managed to get Kirsten Dunst naked, so give the man a break. Actresses that would never do nude scenes ordinarily will shed their kit at the mere mention of his name. Except Helen Mirren.
 
2012-10-17 02:19:36 PM

whizbangthedirtfarmer: So ... I keep going back and forth on whether I should watch Melancholia. Is it worth the time?


No. The premise is interesting, and Kiefer Sutherland gives an excellent performance, but in the end you want the planet to collide in order to put the viewer out of their misery.
 
2012-10-17 02:23:08 PM

calm like a bomb: I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women? I'd think for most actresses who can pick what roles they want, screamy/violent/rapey sex wouldn't rank that high on a list of must-dos.


Just checked his IMDB, and i went 0-fer. The only one I remember wanting to see and didn't was Breaking The Waves.
 
2012-10-17 02:27:51 PM
On January 19th, John Lurie and Willem Dafoe died of starvation.
 
2012-10-17 02:31:43 PM
Antichrist and Melancholia were fantastic, and I really enjoyed Dogville. I'm looking forward to Nymphomaniac.
 
2012-10-17 02:35:17 PM
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2012-10-17 02:44:05 PM

calm like a bomb: I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women?


Now, I actually liked Antichrist, Dogville and Manderlay, even if they were hard to watch at times but I have no desire to see them again. Ever. With that being said, however, one of his movies has landed on my top 10 list of all time favorite movies. Unfortunately, I have to actually psyche myself up to watch it and be in a really good place in my life in order to enjoy it because it can suck the life from you. I think I was emotionally ruined for at least a week the first time I watched Dancer in the Dark.
 
2012-10-17 02:49:20 PM
I wsa saying how he and Christopher Walken should do a movie together as brothers. They have remarkably similar cadence when speaking.
 
2012-10-17 02:54:58 PM

Hetfield: Antichrist and Melancholia were fantastic, and I really enjoyed Dogville. I'm looking forward to Nymphomaniac.


Surely you troll. While Dogville is good (albeit horribly depressing), Melancholia sucks quite a bit of ass. Quite a bit.

It could have been so much more/better. Instead we get one of the slowest 3-hour film's ever whose only conclusion seems to be that clinically depressed/insufferably selfish and annoying people could cope more stoically with the end of the world.

Or something. Like I said, quite a bit of sucked ass.
 
2012-10-17 03:16:08 PM

My Droogs: Hetfield: Antichrist and Melancholia were fantastic, and I really enjoyed Dogville. I'm looking forward to Nymphomaniac.

Surely you troll. While Dogville is good (albeit horribly depressing), Melancholia sucks quite a bit of ass. Quite a bit.

It could have been so much more/better. Instead we get one of the slowest 3-hour film's ever whose only conclusion seems to be that clinically depressed/insufferably selfish and annoying people could cope more stoically with the end of the world.

Or something. Like I said, quite a bit of sucked ass.


Thats about what I got out of it. I lasted about a hour in to it before I skipped to the last 15 minutes. Which I have to say, cutting out roughly about 8/10s of the movie turned it in to a pleasant experience.

Antichrist is prob my favorite film by him but I use the word "Favorite" loosely when talking about von trier. I don't think he knows how to make a movie that isn't a complete mental beating.
 
2012-10-17 03:16:42 PM
Dafoe is awesome.
 
2012-10-17 03:16:54 PM

KatjaMouse: I think I was emotionally ruined for at least a week the first time I watched Dancer in the Dark.


I tried this one. Had to leave the theater when his lack of a stedicam made me just about vomit.
 
2012-10-17 03:17:48 PM

My Droogs: Surely you troll. While Dogville is good (albeit horribly depressing), Melancholia sucks quite a bit of ass. Quite a bit.


It must be quite a lonely burden to be so self-assured in your opinions that you believe anybody who disagrees with you is a troll.

"Melancholia" received extremely favorable reviews from Andrew O'Hehir, David Edelstein, A. O. Scott, Joe Morgenstern, J. Hoberman, Peter Travers, Roger Ebert, Richard Corliss, J. R. Jones, and dozens of other knowledgeable and respected critics. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good movie, but it does mean that only a conceited ass would accuse anybody who professes to admire it of being insincere.
 
2012-10-17 03:25:44 PM

calm like a bomb: KatjaMouse: I think I was emotionally ruined for at least a week the first time I watched Dancer in the Dark.

I tried this one. Had to leave the theater when his lack of a stedicam made me just about vomit.


His use of handheld is pretty good actually and with the exception of one particularly intense scene he used it with good cohesive tracking. I'm also guessing you walked out before the first musical number because all the fantasy sequences were steady.
 
2012-10-17 03:30:20 PM
It was either that or do the new Matthew Barney movie.
 
2012-10-17 03:31:37 PM

Cornelius Dribble: Blah blah blah . . . but it does mean that only a conceited ass would accuse anybody who professes to admire it of being insincere.


Welcome to Fark?

Sure, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that someone might have enjoyed Melancholia. In my case, it's not so much that it sucked as that it was tremendously disappointing, especially when compared with Dogville for example. It looked good on the surface, but there was no there there.

von Trier's other films are poignant and unflinching explorations of the human condition. Melancholia is just an overwrought, self-indulgent, superficial account of...a depressed Kirsten Dunst? That is for some reason set at the end of the world.
 
2012-10-17 03:34:49 PM

Cornelius Dribble: My Droogs: Surely you troll. While Dogville is good (albeit horribly depressing), Melancholia sucks quite a bit of ass. Quite a bit.

It must be quite a lonely burden to be so self-assured in your opinions that you believe anybody who disagrees with you is a troll.

"Melancholia" received extremely favorable reviews from Andrew O'Hehir, David Edelstein, A. O. Scott, Joe Morgenstern, J. Hoberman, Peter Travers, Roger Ebert, Richard Corliss, J. R. Jones, and dozens of other knowledgeable and respected critics. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good movie, but it does mean that only a conceited ass would accuse anybody who professes to admire it of being insincere.


It really was a horribly self-absorbed film about unlikable people. The pacing was slow, and Kirsten Dunst's character succeeded only in making me wish the the world would end far sooner than it did.
 
2012-10-17 03:59:00 PM

r1niceboy: Kirsten Dunst's character succeeded only in making me wish the the world would end far sooner than it did.


Thanks for the spoiler warning. Jerk.
 
2012-10-17 04:13:16 PM

Hetfield: r1niceboy: Kirsten Dunst's character succeeded only in making me wish the the world would end far sooner than it did.

Thanks for the spoiler warning. Jerk.



Lars von Trier movies have never had a happy ending, but one called Melancholia just might!
 
2012-10-17 04:16:29 PM
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2012-10-17 04:33:12 PM

Hetfield: r1niceboy: Kirsten Dunst's character succeeded only in making me wish the the world would end far sooner than it did.

Thanks for the spoiler warning. Jerk.


Spoiler alert: A Lars von Trier movie has a depressing ending.

Except, as r1niceboy points out, it didn't. Kirsten Dunst's character is literally so insufferable that I applauded when earth exploded at the end.
 
2012-10-17 04:51:06 PM

KatjaMouse: calm like a bomb: I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women?

Now, I actually liked Antichrist, Dogville and Manderlay, even if they were hard to watch at times but I have no desire to see them again. Ever. With that being said, however, one of his movies has landed on my top 10 list of all time favorite movies. Unfortunately, I have to actually psyche myself up to watch it and be in a really good place in my life in order to enjoy it because it can suck the life from you. I think I was emotionally ruined for at least a week the first time I watched Dancer in the Dark.


This. My god that was a downer. Good film though.
 
2012-10-17 04:59:34 PM

My Droogs: Spoiler alert: A Lars von Trier movie has a depressing ending.


Your hubris will be your downfall.
 
2012-10-17 05:18:35 PM
Willem Dafoe is on my list of ugly guys that I think are hot.

It's the voice. It's always the voice.
 
2012-10-17 05:23:55 PM
personally, i think von trier is probably the best director currently making movies. of course, i assume that some farkers will inevitably find that either my opinion is wrong, false, or stupid.

/ so, to show that my opinion is at least sincere, my favorite directors of all time are andrei tarkovsy and ingmar bergman.
// i'm just a barrel of laughs. 
/// excited to see this
 
2012-10-17 05:31:03 PM

calm like a bomb: I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women? I'd think for most actresses who can pick what roles they want, screamy/violent/rapey sex wouldn't rank that high on a list of must-dos.


There are also a few actresses who, after working for Von Trier once, decided never to work with him again (or, in the case of Bjork, never to act in any movie again). I think Charlotte Gainsbourg is the only actress who's been in more than one of his movies.
 
2012-10-17 05:44:52 PM
If you ain't got the money then you ain't for real.
 
2012-10-17 06:21:49 PM
Obligatory:

www.thedailyrock.com
 
2012-10-17 06:36:29 PM

Cndn Bacon: So, funny thing about Willem Dafoe. His name sounds like it's being spoken by a frog, then a parrot.

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Willem. DA-FOE! Willem. DA-FOE!


Is this supposed to be funny? Because it's not.
 
2012-10-17 08:24:56 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: On January 19th, John Lurie and Willem Dafoe died of starvation.


That was the best episode in the series by a long shot. It's on Netflix instant now!!
 
2012-10-17 09:55:38 PM

calm like a bomb: I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women? I'd think for most actresses who can pick what roles they want, screamy/violent/rapey sex wouldn't rank that high on a list of must-dos.


getting to live out the rape fantasy under the guise of working with an edgy artiste gives them permission and excuse. most coonts are sluts who love to show off their cleavage so they can object when you peek. not getting to bang their daddies really messes up their fragile little psyches. the creme of the crop (artists, entertainers, actresses, cheerleaders, other attention whores) can't be expected to restrain themselves, given the opportunity to experience what they truly desire most.
 
2012-10-17 09:57:13 PM
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2012-10-17 11:04:35 PM

NDP2: There are also a few actresses who, after working for Von Trier once, decided never to work with him again (or, in the case of Bjork, never to act in any movie again). I think Charlotte Gainsbourg is the only actress who's been in more than one of his movies.


Well Bjork actually did go back on her word and starred in her husband's project Drawing Restraints and I know at some point this past year was attached to some other film project as an actor and not in musical direction.

Also it sounds like Nichole Kidman can't make up her mind about the guy because she keeps getting attached to his projects in pre-production (to include Nymphomaniac) but then pulls out before everything is nailed down.
 
2012-10-18 03:54:28 AM

Hetfield: Antichrist and Melancholia were fantastic, and I really enjoyed Dogville. I'm looking forward to Nymphomaniac.


I saw Dogville a few years ago on (I think) IFC. I'd never heard of it before, but I was flipping through the channels and it was on and I started watching it. I had no idea Von Trier did that one. That certainly explains a few things though...
 
2012-10-18 12:08:45 PM

calm like a bomb: I just don't get it: I've seen, I think, five Von Trier films. They. are. not. good. How does this guy continue to get talent to work with, especially women? I'd think for most actresses who can pick what roles they want, screamy/violent/rapey sex wouldn't rank that high on a list of must-dos.


He's the biggest troll working in film. Did you see the thread the other day about the giant statue of a pregnant woman, half of her looking flensed so that you could see the musculature, gestating baby, etc. that's been placed in some coastal town in Devon, England? Why would anyone think that that crap eyesore is art? Because they don't want to be thought of as philistines. The same thing- Van Trier makes unwatchable crap, but if you call it that, you risk being labeled 'unsophisticated.'
 
2012-10-18 03:58:00 PM

Straelbora: He's the biggest troll working in film. Did you see the thread the other day about the giant statue of a pregnant woman, half of her looking flensed so that you could see the musculature, gestating baby, etc. that's been placed in some coastal town in Devon, England? Why would anyone think that that crap eyesore is art? Because they don't want to be thought of as philistines. The same thing- Van Trier makes unwatchable crap, but if you call it that, you risk being labeled 'unsophisticated.'


Maybe some of us like being emotionally tortured. Ever thought of that?
 
2012-10-18 11:03:49 PM

Cornelius Dribble: My Droogs: Surely you troll. While Dogville is good (albeit horribly depressing), Melancholia sucks quite a bit of ass. Quite a bit.

It must be quite a lonely burden to be so self-assured in your opinions that you believe anybody who disagrees with you is a troll.

"Melancholia" received extremely favorable reviews from Andrew O'Hehir, David Edelstein, A. O. Scott, Joe Morgenstern, J. Hoberman, Peter Travers, Roger Ebert, Richard Corliss, J. R. Jones, and dozens of other knowledgeable and respected critics. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good movie, but it does mean that only a conceited ass would accuse anybody who professes to admire it of being insincere.


You referenced Edelstein and Travers, the two worst film critics in the english language. Also "Appeal to authority" is an especially fallacious line of argument.

Sorry, but your opinion has little credibility.
 
2012-10-19 02:43:55 AM

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: Cornelius Dribble: My Droogs: Surely you troll. While Dogville is good (albeit horribly depressing), Melancholia sucks quite a bit of ass. Quite a bit.

It must be quite a lonely burden to be so self-assured in your opinions that you believe anybody who disagrees with you is a troll.

"Melancholia" received extremely favorable reviews from Andrew O'Hehir, David Edelstein, A. O. Scott, Joe Morgenstern, J. Hoberman, Peter Travers, Roger Ebert, Richard Corliss, J. R. Jones, and dozens of other knowledgeable and respected critics. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's a good movie, but it does mean that only a conceited ass would accuse anybody who professes to admire it of being insincere.

You referenced Edelstein and Travers, the two worst film critics in the english language. Also "Appeal to authority" is an especially fallacious line of argument.

Sorry, but your opinion has little credibility.


What you mistook as an appeal to authority was in reality an appeal to a plurality of informed opinion. I could just as easily have cited a (smaller) set of critics who panned "Melancholia." If fact, if your had read my comment carefully, you would have noticed that I didn't state my own opinion of the film one way or the other (see bold print above), as it was irrelevant to my point; all I was objecting to was My Droogs's refusal to accept that an intelligent person could possibly disagree with him, a character flaw that you would appear to share with him.

As it happens, I'm not a big fan of Edelman or Travers myself, though I wouldn't go so far as to call them "the two worst critics in the english [sic] language" (worse than Armond White? and you call yourself a Farker!). But stating your opinions as if they were indisputable facts, with no supporting evidence whatsoever, is a rhetorical bullying tactic every bit as ineffective as appeal to authority. I am hopeful that you will outgrow that habit as you mature.
 
2012-10-19 12:49:14 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: On January 19th, John Lurie and Willem Dafoe died of starvation.


Fishing..... with John....
 
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