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(Fox News)   To win their 41st AL Pennant, the Yankees must act like the Red Sox   (foxnews.com) divider line 181
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2012-10-17 09:25:42 AM  
Remind me what the Red Sox did to win their 41st AL Pennant.
 
2012-10-17 09:26:10 AM  
So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.
 
2012-10-17 09:26:12 AM  
"Before last night's game we took Joe Girardi's regular binder and switched it with a binder full of women. Let's see what happens!"

/I bet it made A-Rod happy
 
2012-10-17 09:26:14 AM  
COWBOY UP, you lovable rag tag bunch of idiots!

/I just threw up on my keyboard a little.
 
2012-10-17 09:28:49 AM  

skinink: "Before last night's game we took Joe Girardi's regular binder and switched it with a binder full of women. Let's see what happens!"

/I bet it made A-Rod happy


Lulz
 
2012-10-17 09:29:43 AM  

thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.


He was pitching very well. Hughes was too...he got screwed on a couple calls (the second pitch to Delmon Young comes to mind) but that's the kind of thing a better team would overcome. Good game. I figure Detroit in 6, but it could be worse.
 
2012-10-17 09:32:14 AM  

H31N0US: He was pitching very well. Hughes was too...he got screwed on a couple calls (the second pitch to Delmon Young comes to mind) but that's the kind of thing a better team would overcome. Good game. I figure Detroit in 6, but it could be worse.


Exactly how I felt. Verlander didn't even mess up a curve until Nunez. I call BS on Phil's lumbar injury though. I get it that it was cold, but I just don't believe it.
 
2012-10-17 09:32:51 AM  

thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.


I didn't watch all the game so I can't comment on Verlander's stuff. But watching the pregame and thinking about the lineup, I got a sinking feeling the Yankees are about to enter another prolonged period in the wilderness. It happens, talent goes in cycles but nothing is ever predictable. They put a team out there last night that would not have won the AL East, and maybe not even made the playoffs.
 
2012-10-17 09:35:40 AM  
Yankees can't hit.
 
2012-10-17 09:36:33 AM  
Sorry, but the Mets and Knicks have locked up the lion's share of idiots in New York.
 
2012-10-17 09:38:31 AM  
without their best player.

if George Steinbrenner was still alive, Joe Girardi would be out on his ass.
 
2012-10-17 09:39:36 AM  
Go Tigers!

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2012-10-17 09:46:15 AM  
As a lifelong Yankee fan, i am not optimistic. Teixeira, Cano, Swisher, Granderson all are not hitting. If you cant score a run, you cant win a game. Sad, really, because the Yanks had an excellent September and then just kind of imploded.
 
2012-10-17 09:49:20 AM  

lunchinlewis: Remind me what the Red Sox did to win their 41st AL Pennant.


I think they benched a quarter billion dollar player.
 
2012-10-17 09:50:16 AM  
Go tigers!

/awesome week to be a sports fan in Michigan, Tigers are close to the world series, Lions somehow manage to beat the Eagles, Michigan beats Illinois 45-0, hopefully hockey will soon return, and this week the wolverines end sparty's streak.
 
2012-10-17 09:50:58 AM  

crazydave023: Teixeira


Hasnt been that bad in the ALCS.

The Yanks have had the pitching to win.
 
2012-10-17 09:51:44 AM  

crazydave023: As a lifelong Yankee fan, i am not optimistic. Teixeira, Cano, Swisher, Granderson all are not hitting. If you cant score a run, you cant win a game. Sad, really, because the Yanks had an excellent September and then just kind of imploded.


This - I don't understand how a team who scores 14 runs in the final game of the season goes totally cold just a couple days later. Not to mention how the two big hitters in that game - Cano and Granderson, who both hit 2 homers - could then suddenly forget how to hit. It's mind boggling.
 
2012-10-17 09:53:06 AM  
It's over, and with any luck the convergence of shiatty play, overpaid players, overpriced tickets, and the general feeling that the Yankee front office doesn't give a shiat about the fans that don't come from Midtown/Downtown offices will boil over this off season.
 
2012-10-17 09:53:13 AM  
Coke's last pitch was filthy.
 
2012-10-17 09:53:57 AM  

AKTurkey: and this week the wolverines end sparty's streak.


ugh. is any msu fan expecting that win? Losing to Iowa like that is just sadness. And even then its mich vs mich.
 
2012-10-17 09:55:48 AM  

AKTurkey: Go tigers!

/awesome week to be a sports fan in Michigan, Tigers are close to the world series, Lions somehow manage to beat the Eagles, Michigan beats Illinois 45-0, hopefully hockey will soon return, and this week the wolverines end sparty's streak.


And yet you're still in Michigan, which negates it all.
 
2012-10-17 09:56:04 AM  

thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.


The other team never beats the Yankees by playing well. If the Yankees lose it is always ALWAYS because either the umps screwed the Yankees or the Yankees screwed themselves out of a win. No team besides the Yankees gets to decide. Because the Yankees are important and are therefore the deciders in every game they play. That is pretty much devine law in New York.
 
2012-10-17 09:58:26 AM  
I wonder if the Yankees will decide to sweep themselves?
 
2012-10-17 10:00:39 AM  

mikaloyd: thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.

The other team never beats the Yankees by playing well. If the Yankees lose it is always ALWAYS because either the umps screwed the Yankees or the Yankees screwed themselves out of a win. No team besides the Yankees gets to decide. Because the Yankees are important and are therefore the deciders in every game they play. That is pretty much devine law in New York.


Thanks! Now I don't have to tune into Sportscenter!
 
2012-10-17 10:02:15 AM  
If the Yankees had this kind of pitching, that catastrophe in 2004 wouldn't have happened.

And that Red Sox team had guts, something sorely lacking from these Yankees.
 
2012-10-17 10:03:57 AM  

mikaloyd: thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.

The other team never beats the Yankees by playing well. If the Yankees lose it is always ALWAYS because either the umps screwed the Yankees or the Yankees screwed themselves out of a win. No team besides the Yankees gets to decide. Because the Yankees are important and are therefore the deciders in every game they play. That is pretty much devine law in New York.


You are a douche, and so is your straw man.
 
2012-10-17 10:04:07 AM  

thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.


It was probably Verlander's worst start in a month. He was getting behind every hitter and basically throwing BP to them after that, and they still couldn't hit him. Some of that is on the Yankees poor hitting habits, of course, but I also think part of it is an intimidation thing. I've seen this happen before in starts where he didn't have his A-game. Sometimes teams look like they don't expect to hit him, and they don't.

Also, can we please put to rest the phrase "arguably the best pitcher in baseball?" There hasn't been an argument for two years at least.
 
2012-10-17 10:06:44 AM  

thecpt: AKTurkey: and this week the wolverines end sparty's streak.

ugh. is any msu fan expecting that win? Losing to Iowa like that is just sadness. And even then its mich vs mich.


They still have a good defense. But, unfortunately for them, much like the yankees, you actually have to score in order to win.
 
2012-10-17 10:08:28 AM  

idesofmarch: crazydave023: As a lifelong Yankee fan, i am not optimistic. Teixeira, Cano, Swisher, Granderson all are not hitting. If you cant score a run, you cant win a game. Sad, really, because the Yanks had an excellent September and then just kind of imploded.

This - I don't understand how a team who scores 14 runs in the final game of the season goes totally cold just a couple days later. Not to mention how the two big hitters in that game - Cano and Granderson, who both hit 2 homers - could then suddenly forget how to hit. It's mind boggling.


See 2011 Phillies.
 
2012-10-17 10:10:03 AM  

SlagginOff: AKTurkey: Go tigers!

/awesome week to be a sports fan in Michigan, Tigers are close to the world series, Lions somehow manage to beat the Eagles, Michigan beats Illinois 45-0, hopefully hockey will soon return, and this week the wolverines end sparty's streak.

And yet you're still in Michigan, which negates it all.


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2012-10-17 10:12:36 AM  

H31N0US: mikaloyd: thecpt: So I watched the game last night with Yankee fans that claimed that Verlander wasn't even pitching that well and that it was because the Yankees were that bad.

The other team never beats the Yankees by playing well. If the Yankees lose it is always ALWAYS because either the umps screwed the Yankees or the Yankees screwed themselves out of a win. No team besides the Yankees gets to decide. Because the Yankees are important and are therefore the deciders in every game they play. That is pretty much devine law in New York.

You are a douche, and so is your straw man.


Most straw man have better on base percentage than A Rod. But its the Yankees losing not the Tigers winning. Should I call you a name now or wait til you call me a second name and then escalate? Im never sure about the slap fighting rules with you people.
 
2012-10-17 10:12:47 AM  
If the Yankees had any balls they would release A-Rod, let Swisher go, pick up the Cano and Granderson options and tell them 2013 is an audition for a new contract.
 
2012-10-17 10:13:03 AM  

sigdiamond2000: It was probably Verlander's worst start in a month. He was getting behind every hitter and basically throwing BP to them after that, and they still couldn't hit him. Some of that is on the Yankees poor hitting habits, of course, but I also think part of it is an intimidation thing. I've seen this happen before in starts where he didn't have his A-game. Sometimes teams look like they don't expect to hit him, and they don't.

Also, can we please put to rest the phrase "arguably the best pitcher in baseball?" There hasn't been an argument for two years at least.


I don't know about the BP part. His avg velocity on his fast ball was 95 and got higher throughout the night despite the cold rain, plus the locations were pretty good. The Yankees had a good approach in watching a few, working the count, and not getting themselves into trouble. I just thought Verlander deserved credit for his performance, and that my friends were being idiots.
 
2012-10-17 10:13:23 AM  
So they're looking forward to next year?
 
2012-10-17 10:14:03 AM  

sigdiamond2000: It was probably Verlander's worst start in a month. He was getting behind every hitter and basically throwing BP to them after that, and they still couldn't hit him. Some of that is on the Yankees poor hitting habits, of course, but I also think part of it is an intimidation thing. I've seen this happen before in starts where he didn't have his A-game. Sometimes teams look like they don't expect to hit him, and they don't.

Also, can we please put to rest the phrase "arguably the best pitcher in baseball?" There hasn't been an argument for two years at least.


What he was doing was pitching. He didn't have his best stuff, but what he did do was keep the hitters off balance. I don't remember how many people he set up last night with hard stuff down, then off speed...to have the pop or fly out with an elevated fastball. He dared the Yankees to hit his fastball...and until the Nunez homer, didn't leave any of his offspeed stuff up and over the plate.

Best pitcher in baseball? No question.

H31N0US: You are a douche, and so is your straw man.


No, it's spot on. The Yankees are flailing right now in part because they're full of excuses. The umps stole game 2 (forget that they still didn't score any runs or that how many calls in the playoffs have gone in favor of the Yankees the last 15 years). The strike zone isn't fair (despite both teams having the same strike zone). They're not hitting (but that has nothing to do with the Tiger's starting pitching). It's A-Rod's fault because he was flirting with girls after he was benched. It's Swisher's fault that Jeter was hurt. Etc., etc.

The bottom line is that the Tiger's starting pitching has been amazing, their defense has been better than expected, and their hitting has been just good enough.
 
2012-10-17 10:14:59 AM  

thecpt: I don't know about the BP part. His avg velocity on his fast ball was 95 and got higher throughout the night despite the cold rain, plus the locations were pretty good. The Yankees had a good approach in watching a few, working the count, and not getting themselves into trouble. I just thought Verlander deserved credit for his performance, and that my friends were being idiots.


Verlander knew the team he was facing can't hit, so even when he fell behind he was able to get outs with just his fastball in good spots. Sign of a good pitcher if you ask me, know your opponent and find a way to get them out even without your "A" stuff.
 
2012-10-17 10:16:09 AM  

slayer199: No, it's spot on. The Yankees are flailing right now in part because they're full of excuses. The umps stole game 2 (forget that they still didn't score any runs or that how many calls in the playoffs have gone in favor of the Yankees the last 15 years). The strike zone isn't fair (despite both teams having the same strike zone). They're not hitting (but that has nothing to do with the Tiger's starting pitching). It's A-Rod's fault because he was flirting with girls after he was benched. It's Swisher's fault that Jeter was hurt. Etc., etc.

The bottom line is that the Tiger's starting pitching has been amazing, their defense has been better than expected, and their hitting has been just good enough.


Guess what, fans of a particular team view the series through that lens. Sorry we're not all out here sucking the Tigers dicks, that's YOUR job.
 
2012-10-17 10:19:44 AM  
Here's your chance to try some humility Yankees fan. Good luck.
 
2012-10-17 10:21:02 AM  

thecpt: I don't know about the BP part. His avg velocity on his fast ball was 95 and got higher throughout the night despite the cold rain, plus the locations were pretty good.


"BP" is probably an exaggeration, but I though his fastball location, in general, was terrible. But, again, he didn't need it to be good. He had a stiff wind blowing in and was just grooving it middle/up when he fell behind because he knew they weren't going to do anything with it. It was a textbook example of pitching effectively when you don't have your best stuff.

He definitely deserves credit, because there is probably no other pitcher in baseball who can do it like he can. His B-game is better than most everyone's A-game.
 
2012-10-17 10:22:04 AM  
The Tiger just seem to want it more than the Yankees do.
 
2012-10-17 10:23:26 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Guess what, fans of a particular team view the series through that lens. Sorry we're not all out here sucking the Tigers dicks, that's YOUR job.


Yankee fans are part of the reason so many people hate the Yankees. Thanks for proving my point that it's not to the Tigers' credit, it's due to the Yankee's failures.

Girardi didn't do them any favors after Game 2 with his whining tirade about instant replay (completely forgetting his comments against instant replay 3 years earlier when a call went in the Yankees favor). He should have stood up and said, "Yes, it was a mistake by the umps...and the Tigers capitalized on their chances. We did NOT capitalize on our opportunities." Hell, he was challenged by a media person that commented that they still didn't score any runs and he continued on the same path that it totally changed the game. Nothing like failing to hold your players accountable.

IMHO, they're missing Jeter's leadership more than anything else at this point.
 
2012-10-17 10:26:45 AM  
To win their 41st AL Pennant, the Yankees must act like the Red Sox

That shouldn't be a problem, what with their scrappy underdog spirit and all.

/As a White Sox fan, I can't decide who I'd rather not see go to the World Series.
 
2012-10-17 10:26:54 AM  

sigdiamond2000: He had a stiff wind blowing in and was just grooving it middle/up when he fell behind because he knew they weren't going to do anything with it. It was a textbook example of pitching effectively when you don't have your best stuff.


I noticed that on righties (that he just floored it and went middle in or high and inside which also set his curve up), and with lefties he tried the low outside corner. Are the lefties just not low ball hitters for the Yankees? He just had no fear approaching righties which to me screams that he deserved credit for both ability and confidence.
 
2012-10-17 10:28:47 AM  

thecpt: Are the lefties just not low ball hitters for the Yankees?


Low and in, yes. Low and away, no, since neither Cano nor Teixeira had shown any inclination to hit the ball to left field until Cano finally got a hit in the 9th.
 
2012-10-17 10:31:59 AM  

SkylineRecords: To win their 41st AL Pennant, the Yankees must act like the Red Sox

That shouldn't be a problem, what with their scrappy underdog spirit and all.

/As a White Sox fan, I can't decide who I'd rather not see go to the World Series.


Go Umpires!!!?
 
2012-10-17 10:31:59 AM  

Gunny Highway: Coke's last pitch was filthy.


I haven't seen a slider with a bite like that since Eckersley was pitching.
 
2012-10-17 10:32:55 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Verlander knew the team he was facing can't hit, so even when he fell behind he was able to get outs with just his fastball in good spots. Sign of a good pitcher if you ask me, know your opponent and find a way to get them out even without your "A" stuff.


You are a good fan and reasonable while still very supportive of your yankees. I guess what Im trying to say here is , Well done sir. You are a credit to your fanbase.
 
2012-10-17 10:34:05 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Guess what, fans of a particular team view the series through that lens. Sorry we're not all out here sucking the Tigers dicks, that's YOUR job.


To be honest, I was hoping to see you give a 1,000 word tribute to the majesty and excellence of Delmon Young.
 
2012-10-17 10:38:47 AM  

SkylineRecords: That shouldn't be a problem, what with their scrappy underdog spirit and all.


the bleacher bums can easily keep that peppy spirit going. 

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2012-10-17 10:41:20 AM  
i wish the yanks could have rolled into the world series somehow before totally collapsing...
 
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