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(NPR)   NPR blows the lid off of the big cat poop coffee scandal. Is the scandal A) cats are being force fed coffee beans, or B) cats are being force fed unripe inferior quality coffee beans?   (npr.org) divider line 71
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2012-10-17 09:28:05 AM
What pooped-out coffee beans may look like:

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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 09:32:31 AM
"There's a fetishized market for the coffee," says Strand, "which has incentivized less-than-ethical practices."

Most years I got to the Ig Nobel lectures, held at MIT every fall the Saturday after the Ig Nobel prizes are awarded. One year a guy talked about kopi luwak coffee. He had a side job testing coffee. There's a lot of fraud out there, people passing off beans that have not really been eaten and defecated by a pseudocat. But he and his machines can tell the difference. He gave certified genuine cat poop coffee to the audience. It tasted a lot like regular coffee.
 
2012-10-17 10:23:48 AM
People get weird about their drugs.
 
2012-10-17 10:23:58 AM
philzcoffee.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-10-17 10:24:00 AM
Had it once, came from a friend whose family lives on the island it's produced on. It's supremely unspectacular. If I'm going to spend $200 on a beverage, it'll be on a whisky old enough to be worrying about cashing out its 401K plan
 
2012-10-17 10:25:47 AM

Magorn: Had it once, came from a friend whose family lives on the island it's produced on. It's supremely unspectacular. If I'm going to spend $200 on a beverage, it'll be on a whisky old enough to be worrying about cashing out its 401K plan


I'll take one subscription to your newsletter, please.
 
2012-10-17 10:26:49 AM
Nice article, but where does the "blowing the lid off" title come from? There was nothing in the article that hasn't been public knowledge for decades.
 
2012-10-17 10:27:02 AM
Well I will never look at an Oh Henry! bar the same again.
 
2012-10-17 10:27:53 AM
Had Kopi Luwak in Surabaya, Indonesia while I was there. Was quite nice, didn't need any cream or sugar. I think I spent 40$ on it. Well worth it to have the real thing in its "home", so to speak.

100 bucks for a cup/sampler of it in the US? Pass. I'll save it for the next time I go through that region. I still need to surf Malaysia and Vietnam.
 
2012-10-17 10:27:55 AM
nice to see NPR doing hard hitting journalism... worth every penny of public funding
 
2012-10-17 10:29:04 AM
Is that what happened to the "Henry's Blend" that Seattle's Best used to have?
 
2012-10-17 10:29:21 AM
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2012-10-17 10:32:45 AM
Aren't A and B the same answer?
B is just a more definitive description of A.

And where the Hell is C?!!?!?
 
2012-10-17 10:34:55 AM
Coffee snob peoples' problems

/makes a cup of Folger's
 
2012-10-17 10:35:52 AM

DownDaRiver: Aren't A and B the same answer?
B is just a more definitive description of A.

And where the Hell is C?!!?!?


My thoughts exactly. How are we supposed to know what the answer is without C subby?
 
2012-10-17 10:36:20 AM
If you feel sorry for the cats, there's always elephant poop coffee.
 
2012-10-17 10:36:45 AM
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2012-10-17 10:37:00 AM

Sachlpch: DownDaRiver: Aren't A and B the same answer?
B is just a more definitive description of A.

And where the Hell is C?!!?!?

My thoughts exactly. How are we supposed to know what the answer is without C subby?


Isnt it:

C: Profit

?
 
2012-10-17 10:38:10 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com

"Hey, who made Starbucks?"
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-17 10:39:29 AM
msnbcmedia.msn.com 

It gives me cat poop fever...
 
2012-10-17 10:44:12 AM

Joe Blowme: nice to see NPR doing hard hitting journalism... worth every penny of public funding


Most of the money public broadcasting receives comes from private companies and listener pledges.
Every now and then you will get fluff pieces from NPR.
 
2012-10-17 10:54:52 AM
1. Civets aren't cats! They're more akin to weasels.

2. The romantic ideal of kopi luwak is that free-range civets roam the Indonesian countryside, eating only the finest perfectly ripe organic coffee beans, and the beans are harvested from their feces by skilled turd-hunters, much in the same way that a Frenchman and his pet pig might hunt for black truffles.

The revelation that the kopi luwak business is run like a business shatters that ideal for some people.

/yes, the romantic ideal involves feces.
 
2012-10-17 10:55:30 AM
I can't afford actual civet coffee. So I've been buying whole bean coffee and mixing it in with some canned nine lives. I scoop the cat box into a strainer, and separate out the beans by running hot water through. A few minutes in the toaster oven, and the beans are good to go.
 
2012-10-17 10:59:36 AM
bmadore.squarespace.com
 
2012-10-17 11:03:57 AM

MyNameIsMofuga: [i492.photobucket.com image 608x368]


I thought it looked like corn-nuts hot glued to a baby ruth.
 
2012-10-17 11:14:26 AM
A few years ago my sister bought me back a bag of "cat poo" coffee from Asia. Never heard of it before, ashamed to admit. So she tells me the story and I kinda thought about it for a bit and tried to do the maths and it didn't seem right. Unless she paid, like, $1,000 for the bag or something, and I was pretty sure it was about equivalent to bringing back a shirt. I don't want to appear ungrateful and say anything. Plus meh, whatever.
______________________________________________________

Cut to last year and I'm in Bali for the first time.

The lady-friend says we should do the COME SEE THE COFFEE PLANTATION! tour a taxi driver suggested to her. I looked at the brochure and it looked reasonably away from the hustle and bustle and said why not.

Get there and the taxi driver magically becomes a tour guide for the place. He's slowly walking up the trail to the buildings. "Here are three coconut palms. Here are some native plants with nice-tasting seeds. Here is a pineapple plant. Here are some birds in a cage. Here is a banana tree. Here are some palm oil trees. Ooh! and here are a few cocoa plants."

By now I've got that dreaded feeling, but at the same time not really giving a fark. Thinking to myself "Nice bait'n'switch, Mr Taxi Driver. I ain't gonna see no coffee plantation, am I?"

Right at the end of the trail before the buildings [which turned out to be two shops] there was a cage with three of the sorriest-assed, mangy looking civets you could imagine, and then we got the whole "cat poo coffee" spiel from our taxi driver guide.

And now I'm thinkin' "PLEASE don't tell me you've got the brass nads to be selling bags of cat poo coffee here. Sure enough.

There and then it totally confirmed the scam what I always suspected was a scam.

But wait! There's more.
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Lady-friend bought a few bags of [normal] coffee from the coffee plantation store. A week has passed and we're safely back home in Australia and she opens a bag and it's INSTANT FARKING COFFEE!

You want more? Well you get more.
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It was bogged up with about 30% white sugar! Well played, Mr Taxi Driver. Well played, good sir.
 
2012-10-17 11:14:47 AM
I don't think that I'd like civet poop coffee, but I do enjoy picking the corn out of my poops and eating it with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.
 
2012-10-17 11:15:19 AM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Joe Blowme: nice to see NPR doing hard hitting journalism... worth every penny of public funding

Most of the money public broadcasting receives comes from private companies and listener pledges.
Every now and then you will get fluff pieces from NPR.


And there is absolutely nothing wrong with NPR varying their programming a bit. They do run great pieces on arts, entertainment and culture in addition to news reports. Fluff? Yes, but it's often insightful fluff. As a bonus, it keeps listeners interested as our population becomes increasingly ADD, and does so without stooping to Snooki. And, as Abe points out, public broadcasting does rely on listener pledges. (If Big Bird is "fired," it will do so more than ever.)

/More power to them.
//But I'll pass on the poop coffee.
 
2012-10-17 11:19:47 AM
Just another reason not to buy this kind of coffee.
 
2012-10-17 11:21:15 AM

Terrydatroll: Nice article, but where does the "blowing the lid off" title come from? There was nothing in the article that hasn't been public knowledge for decades.


That was making fun of NPR for rehashing an old subject.
 
2012-10-17 11:21:36 AM

Canton: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Joe Blowme: nice to see NPR doing hard hitting journalism... worth every penny of public funding

Most of the money public broadcasting receives comes from private companies and listener pledges.
Every now and then you will get fluff pieces from NPR.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with NPR varying their programming a bit. They do run great pieces on arts, entertainment and culture in addition to news reports. Fluff? Yes, but it's often insightful fluff. As a bonus, it keeps listeners interested as our population becomes increasingly ADD, and does so without stooping to Snooki. And, as Abe points out, public broadcasting does rely on listener pledges. (If Big Bird is "fired," it will do so more than ever.)

/More power to them.
//But I'll pass on the poop coffee.


Nicely said.

/raising a mug to you
//but not with poopy coffee
 
2012-10-17 11:23:12 AM

Sachlpch: DownDaRiver: Aren't A and B the same answer?
B is just a more definitive description of A.

And where the Hell is C?!!?!?

My thoughts exactly. How are we supposed to know what the answer is without C subby?


Hey, it was 7AM and I could only manage an A and B without coffee. Hey, you could have written a funnier headline, but no, you couldn't be bothered, and we had to make do with my lame version.
 
2012-10-17 11:23:34 AM
www.dvd.net.au

"It's a bit nutty."
 
2012-10-17 11:25:22 AM

Big Ramifications: It was bogged up with about 30% white sugar! Well played, Mr Taxi Driver. Well played, good sir.


I'm not so sure she got ripped off. The Asian market up the street here sells pre-packaged Thai coffee, which comes in packets of instant coffee mixed with a high dose of sugar. Seems to be a "thing" in the region.
 
2012-10-17 11:28:16 AM

Canton: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Joe Blowme: nice to see NPR doing hard hitting journalism... worth every penny of public funding

Most of the money public broadcasting receives comes from private companies and listener pledges.
Every now and then you will get fluff pieces from NPR.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with NPR varying their programming a bit. They do run great pieces on arts, entertainment and culture in addition to news reports. Fluff? Yes, but it's often insightful fluff. As a bonus, it keeps listeners interested as our population becomes increasingly ADD, and does so without stooping to Snooki. And, as Abe points out, public broadcasting does rely on listener pledges. (If Big Bird is "fired," it will do so more than ever.)

/More power to them.
//But I'll pass on the poop coffee.


Don't get me wrong about my post. I love NPR, and it's about the only place where you will actually get in-depth reporting and not just a 30 second soundbite of news headlines.
 
2012-10-17 11:33:59 AM

poot_rootbeer: 1. Civets aren't cats! They're more akin to weasels.



Yes and no. Roughly speaking, the mammalian Order Carnivora can be divided into cat-like critters and those that are dog-like. Civets fall on the cat side, the feliformes. In body shape and behavior, many viverrids (the family which includes civets) are analogous to weasels and their allies (mustelids), which are among the caniformes. Their kinship, however, is firmly with cats, although they are emphatically not cats.

/ mammalogist
// </pedagogy>
 
2012-10-17 11:37:03 AM
"When you see it in the wild, it looks kind of like an Oh Henry! bar," says coffee historian Mark Pendergrast, author of Uncommon Grounds.

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2012-10-17 11:40:51 AM
Are the cats trying to poop on this thing too?
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/poop trifecta in play
 
2012-10-17 11:45:58 AM

czei: Sachlpch: DownDaRiver: Aren't A and B the same answer?
B is just a more definitive description of A.

And where the Hell is C?!!?!?

My thoughts exactly. How are we supposed to know what the answer is without C subby?

Hey, it was 7AM and I could only manage an A and B without coffee. Hey, you could have written a funnier headline, but no, you couldn't be bothered, and we had to
make do with my lame version.



At 7AM I was dead to the world asleep. And even if I wasn't. I know full well that without a head of coffee I would not have managed to even think about submiitting a link let alone coming up with a clever or witty headline.

Congrats on your Green :-)
 
2012-10-17 11:51:57 AM

czei: Terrydatroll: Nice article, but where does the "blowing the lid off" title come from? There was nothing in the article that hasn't been public knowledge for decades.

That was making fun of NPR for rehashing an old subject.


Like Big Bird has done for so many years?

/Rmoney gonna have that damned bird for Thanksgiving

//support your local NPR pledge drive, y'all
 
2012-10-17 11:53:18 AM
I can turn coffee into poop. Maybe this is a marketable skill.
 
2012-10-17 11:56:08 AM
What I want to know is who got the idea to use civet crap to make coffee. I'm guessing a lazy coffee bean picker who realized "hey, I can quadrupple my quota by picking up a few concentrated lumps of civet crap instead of examining each bean for the peek of ripeness." Wash off the poop and sell to the tourists.

/solid business plan. Civet does the hard work, you work less, and get to smile knowing someone is drinking poop coffee. Brilliant!
 
2012-10-17 11:57:08 AM

offmymeds: "When you see it in the wild, it looks kind of like an Oh Henry! bar," says coffee historian Mark Pendergrast, author of Uncommon Grounds.

[farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x322]


Now I have to go run Caddie Shack.

/Santa Teresa Geisha, SCAA 92.5 FTW!
 
2012-10-17 11:58:12 AM

i upped my meds-up yours: I can turn coffee into poop. Maybe this is a marketable skill.



Pfft. I can make water from wine.
 
2012-10-17 12:07:21 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Canton: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Joe Blowme: nice to see NPR doing hard hitting journalism... worth every penny of public funding

Most of the money public broadcasting receives comes from private companies and listener pledges.
Every now and then you will get fluff pieces from NPR.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with NPR varying their programming a bit. They do run great pieces on arts, entertainment and culture in addition to news reports. Fluff? Yes, but it's often insightful fluff. As a bonus, it keeps listeners interested as our population becomes increasingly ADD, and does so without stooping to Snooki. And, as Abe points out, public broadcasting does rely on listener pledges. (If Big Bird is "fired," it will do so more than ever.)

/More power to them.
//But I'll pass on the poop coffee.

Don't get me wrong about my post. I love NPR, and it's about the only place where you will actually get in-depth reporting and not just a 30 second soundbite of news headlines.


Didn't get you wrong. Just wanted to add my two cents-worth in response to Joe. NPR is my favorite source of news by far. (Not that I've been listening to it as much lately, as I don't have a radio and get distracted online far too easily.)
 
2012-10-17 12:19:57 PM
Andrew Shields, the Chinatown Coffee barista, on the other hand, seems pleasantly surprised. "I've never had anything like it," he says, using words like "vegetabley, tea-like and earthy" to describe the taste. "Is it worth it?" he pondered the price out loud, "for me, not regularly."

In other words, the best tasting shiat I ever tried to drink. Likely true, most of us don't go around tasting shiat every day, save perhaps for the occasional mouse or rat dropping that find their way into the machinery at food processing plants.

Still it's shiat. Prepared under the best conditions, it still tastes like well-prepared shiat. Well-prepared, really, really expensive shiat.

/mind you, I love good coffee and good coffee doesn't need anything in it--no sugar, no flavorings, no "lightners"
 
2012-10-17 12:53:30 PM

StrikitRich: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

"Hey, who made Starbucks?"


This is actually edible...
imageshack.us

Here's the recipe,,

"Place the box on a newspaper and sprinkle a few of the cookie crumbs around. Serve with a new pooper scooper."
 
2012-10-17 01:10:28 PM
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2012-10-17 01:24:38 PM

runcible spork: poot_rootbeer: 1. Civets aren't cats! They're more akin to weasels.

Yes and no. Roughly speaking, the mammalian Order Carnivora can be divided into cat-like critters and those that are dog-like. Civets fall on the cat side, the feliformes. In body shape and behavior, many viverrids (the family which includes civets) are analogous to weasels and their allies (mustelids), which are among the caniformes. Their kinship, however, is firmly with cats, although they are emphatically not cats.

/ mammalogist
// </pedagogy>


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/i iz not kitteh
//but i iz kin 2 kitteh
 
2012-10-17 01:33:47 PM

poot_rootbeer: 1. Civets aren't cats! They're more akin to weasels.

2. The romantic ideal of kopi luwak is that free-range civets roam the Indonesian countryside, eating only the finest perfectly ripe organic coffee beans, and the beans are harvested from their feces by skilled turd-hunters, much in the same way that a Frenchman and his pet pig might hunt for black truffles.

The revelation that the kopi luwak business is run like a business shatters that ideal for some people.

/yes, the romantic ideal involves feces.


In a nutshell.

Or in this case, in a coffee-bean.
 
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