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2012-10-17 11:06:41 AM
I'd be looking for a person with no arms and sometimes hangs around a wall.
 
2012-10-17 11:08:52 AM
Maybe worth a hundred million dollars to some one, street value of next to nothing.
 
2012-10-17 11:09:52 AM
Reading they can't sell them but maybe could trade made me think of him being a refined thief that just wanted to decorate his apartment.
 
2012-10-17 11:13:35 AM
i remember listening to a very interesting interview on npr with a guy who works with the FBI for the investigation of stolen art and artifacts.

basically, he said that these art thieves have a tendency to be extremely talented thieves... but selling the art is near impossible. that was what shocked him. how brilliant they were as thieves, but how incompetent they were at actually making any money off the theft.

/ they will get caught when they try to sell or ransom the paintings. unless this is one of those rare commissioned thefts.
 
2012-10-17 11:14:40 AM
Stupid auto-play video at the bottom of the stupid webpage.
 
2012-10-17 11:14:53 AM
Sell them? Please. The thieves have already been paid. This was a contract job.
 
2012-10-17 11:15:26 AM
It sounds just like a scene straight out of a Hollywood movie blockbuster.

Considering (1) that the article says that the alarm went off fairly quickly, and (2) that most art thefts are not carefully choreographed high-tech ballets, but "grab painting, run like a motherfarker for the door", she must watch some really short, explosionless Hollywood movie blockbusters.
 
2012-10-17 11:16:22 AM

kobrakai: Sell them? Please. The thieves have already been paid. This was a contract job.


This
 
2012-10-17 11:21:29 AM
Autoplay video surprised the hell out of me.
 
2012-10-17 11:22:13 AM
It went from this:

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To this: 

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2012-10-17 11:24:07 AM

pute kisses like a man: i remember listening to a very interesting interview on npr with a guy who works with the FBI for the investigation of stolen art and artifacts.

basically, he said that these art thieves have a tendency to be extremely talented thieves... but selling the art is near impossible. that was what shocked him. how brilliant they were as thieves, but how incompetent they were at actually making any money off the theft.

/ they will get caught when they try to sell or ransom the paintings. unless this is one of those rare commissioned thefts.


I was thinking te same thing. You see these briallant thefts and then they just screw the pooch afterwards. Unless they got a buyer lined up they are better off hanging them in their bathroom or giving them back. I know for a while drug lords would trade art for drugs because $20 million in art was easier to cart around than $20 million in cash.
 
2012-10-17 11:25:26 AM
The very modern security system.

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2012-10-17 11:29:37 AM

groppet: pute kisses like a man: i remember listening to a very interesting interview on npr with a guy who works with the FBI for the investigation of stolen art and artifacts.

basically, he said that these art thieves have a tendency to be extremely talented thieves... but selling the art is near impossible. that was what shocked him. how brilliant they were as thieves, but how incompetent they were at actually making any money off the theft.

/ they will get caught when they try to sell or ransom the paintings. unless this is one of those rare commissioned thefts.

I was thinking te same thing. You see these briallant thefts and then they just screw the pooch afterwards. Unless they got a buyer lined up they are better off hanging them in their bathroom or giving them back. I know for a while drug lords would trade art for drugs because $20 million in art was easier to cart around than $20 million in cash.


If they have any brains at all, they'll just arrange a swap for a million or two to a Caymans account that will be forwarded to a Russian mob account and disappear from the banking system, and never be seen at all. Only the brainless would hold out for anything near the "real" value. For the insurance company, that'll still be a better deal than spending years searching for them or the possibility of them being destroyed and having to pay out completely.
 
2012-10-17 11:30:45 AM
Huh, so "Modern Security System" means you can walk in the back door and steal several paintings scott-free.

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2012-10-17 11:32:40 AM

groppet: pute kisses like a man: i remember listening to a very interesting interview on npr with a guy who works with the FBI for the investigation of stolen art and artifacts.

basically, he said that these art thieves have a tendency to be extremely talented thieves... but selling the art is near impossible. that was what shocked him. how brilliant they were as thieves, but how incompetent they were at actually making any money off the theft.

/ they will get caught when they try to sell or ransom the paintings. unless this is one of those rare commissioned thefts.

I was thinking te same thing. You see these briallant thefts and then they just screw the pooch afterwards. Unless they got a buyer lined up they are better off hanging them in their bathroom or giving them back. I know for a while drug lords would trade art for drugs because $20 million in art was easier to cart around than $20 million in cash.


There is ALWAYS an underground art market. They won't get 10% of what the art is worth on the open market, but when you are still talking millions of dollars for basically walking into a building and walking out, who cares?
 
2012-10-17 11:41:25 AM
Daring Art Heist Nets Picasso, Matisse

You know it's a good score when it's referred to as a heist. You could come up with a brilliant plan for breaking into a junkyard or for pilfering a box of Slim Jims from 7-Eleven, but unless those are solid gold Slim Jims, no one is going to refer to your operation as a heist.
 
2012-10-17 11:44:46 AM
 
2012-10-17 11:49:06 AM
Two bob.

/not yet?
 
2012-10-17 11:56:53 AM
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-17 12:01:14 PM
Well played, rkallister
 
2012-10-17 12:02:20 PM
Will they turn up in Dick Cheney's library? And will he tell them:

"We get paintings and we hold them ransom for... ONE MILLION DOLLARS!

Ummm, One... Hundred... BILLION DOLLARS!"
 
2012-10-17 12:11:32 PM

sulco: I'd be looking for a person with no arms and sometimes hangs around a wall.


Sources say his name is Art.
 
2012-10-17 12:13:46 PM

pute kisses like a man: very interesting interview on npr with a guy who works with the FBI for the investigation of stolen art and artifacts.

basically, he said that these art thieves have a tendency to be extremely talented thieves


phalamir: most art thefts are not carefully choreographed high-tech ballets, but "grab painting, run like a motherfarker for the door"


Hmm.. the discrepancy...
 
2012-10-17 12:14:32 PM

LesserEvil: Huh, so "Modern Security System" means you can walk in the back door and steal several paintings scott-free.

Would like a work with you...

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2012-10-17 12:18:50 PM
What, nobody?


Auctioneer: What am I bid for Vermeer's 'Lady Who Used to be at a Window'? Do I hear two bob?

Voice: Two bob!

Auctioneer: Gone. Now what am I bid for another great bargain? Edward Landseer's 'Nothing at Bay'.
 
2012-10-17 12:27:45 PM

midigod: pute kisses like a man: very interesting interview on npr with a guy who works with the FBI for the investigation of stolen art and artifacts.

basically, he said that these art thieves have a tendency to be extremely talented thieves

phalamir: most art thefts are not carefully choreographed high-tech ballets, but "grab painting, run like a motherfarker for the door"

Hmm.. the discrepancy...


according to the FBI guy in the interview, even with the grab painting run for the door thief, it's quite a bit more complicated than you may imagine. coordinating a getaway, a diversion, understanding police and security routines. although the method of theft may seem simple, there is a great deal of planning to decrease the unexpected and plan for the getaway.
 
2012-10-17 12:31:09 PM
Quick! Call Detective Michael McCann!
 
2012-10-17 12:43:33 PM
Damn you to hell, Carmen SanDiego.
 
2012-10-17 12:43:58 PM
In today's crazy world, it's somehow comforting to know that there are still old school fine art thieves running around and doing their thing.
 
2012-10-17 12:53:31 PM
I'm more of a Monet man myself...

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2012-10-17 12:54:48 PM

kobrakai: Sell them? Please. The thieves have already been paid. This was a contract job.


Thanks for bringing some sense into this thread.
 
2012-10-17 01:00:59 PM
Hope it wasn't someones "Lucky Painting"
 
2012-10-17 01:13:38 PM
According to Cremers, the museum has a "very modern security system in this museum and the alarm response was very quick, so the thieves were not able to steal many paintings

Uh... they managed to get away with $100 million worth of paintings. You can't put a positive spin on this.
 
2012-10-17 01:15:19 PM
What, is Piss Christ not good enough for you plebes?.
 
2012-10-17 01:57:28 PM

arcas: Uh... they managed to get away with $100 million worth of paintings. You can't put a positive spin on this.


It's less than $200 million.
 
2012-10-17 02:00:39 PM

marsgwar: arcas: Uh... they managed to get away with $100 million worth of paintings. You can't put a positive spin on this.

It's less than $200 million.


They freed up some space for new exhibitions?
 
2012-10-17 02:18:02 PM
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/got nuthin'
 
2012-10-17 02:18:12 PM

phalamir: It sounds just like a scene straight out of a Hollywood movie blockbuster.

Considering (1) that the article says that the alarm went off fairly quickly, and (2) that most art thefts are not carefully choreographed high-tech ballets, but "grab painting, run like a motherfarker for the door", she must watch some really short, explosionless Hollywood movie blockbusters.


Lazyass journalism rears its ugly head in the very first sentence. I couldn't read any further.
 
2012-10-17 02:20:31 PM
"They are worthless, they can't sell them,"

That is a dumb statement knowing full well that the Koch Brothers will now have something to shoot at on their wild west compound.
 
2012-10-17 03:08:48 PM

EZ Writer: kobrakai: Sell them? Please. The thieves have already been paid. This was a contract job.

This


Yup. The paintings are still IN a collection. Just one that will never be open to the general public.

I seem to remember a few years back, someone stole several famous paintings (basically just walked in and took them), then suddenly realized that he would never be able to sell them without getting caught. As I recall, the authorities caught him throwing the paintings into a river. Whenever I read stories about priceless paintings with incompetent security, I think it's just sheer dumb luck that we have as much art today as we have.
 
2012-10-17 03:17:25 PM

arcas: Uh... they managed to get away with $100 million worth of paintings. You can't put a positive spin on this.


Those scum bag insurance companies finally have to pay.
 
2012-10-17 03:37:16 PM
Stories about art heists disturb me far less than the increasingly frequent incidents of people defacing art. I'd like to think that if someone is willing to go to the trouble to snatch a painting worth millions from a heavily-secured museum, they must really treasure it.

Of course, it sucks to be the rest of us who can no longer enjoy the work of art.
 
2012-10-17 03:44:13 PM

Nogale: Stories about art heists disturb me far less than the increasingly frequent incidents of people defacing art. I'd like to think that if someone is willing to go to the trouble to snatch a painting worth millions from a heavily-secured museum, they must really treasure it.

Of course, it sucks to be the rest of us who can no longer enjoy the work of art.


Most people will only enjoy art in reproductions or photographs. It's a shame, but that's just the truth.
Still sucks that asshots stole this art work.
 
2012-10-17 03:58:09 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Nogale: Stories about art heists disturb me far less than the increasingly frequent incidents of people defacing art. I'd like to think that if someone is willing to go to the trouble to snatch a painting worth millions from a heavily-secured museum, they must really treasure it.

Of course, it sucks to be the rest of us who can no longer enjoy the work of art.

Most people will only enjoy art in reproductions or photographs. It's a shame, but that's just the truth.
Still sucks that asshots stole this art work.


That may be true, but museums still get plenty of traffic (and admission fees) from people who want to see the real thing.

Question: Are art thieves worse that collectors who buy pieces legitimately, only to hide them away in vaults where they can't be seen except on the rare occasions when they're lent out to exhibitions?
 
2012-10-17 03:58:57 PM

Nogale: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Nogale: Stories about art heists disturb me far less than the increasingly frequent incidents of people defacing art. I'd like to think that if someone is willing to go to the trouble to snatch a painting worth millions from a heavily-secured museum, they must really treasure it.

Of course, it sucks to be the rest of us who can no longer enjoy the work of art.

Most people will only enjoy art in reproductions or photographs. It's a shame, but that's just the truth.
Still sucks that asshots stole this art work.

That may be true, but museums still get plenty of traffic (and admission fees) from people who want to see the real thing.

Question: Are art thieves worse than collectors who buy pieces legitimately, only to hide them away in vaults where they can't be seen except on the rare occasions when they're lent out to exhibitions?

 
2012-10-17 04:02:30 PM

Nogale: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Nogale: Stories about art heists disturb me far less than the increasingly frequent incidents of people defacing art. I'd like to think that if someone is willing to go to the trouble to snatch a painting worth millions from a heavily-secured museum, they must really treasure it.

Of course, it sucks to be the rest of us who can no longer enjoy the work of art.

Most people will only enjoy art in reproductions or photographs. It's a shame, but that's just the truth.
Still sucks that asshots stole this art work.

That may be true, but museums still get plenty of traffic (and admission fees) from people who want to see the real thing.

Question: Are art thieves worse that collectors who buy pieces legitimately, only to hide them away in vaults where they can't be seen except on the rare occasions when they're lent out to exhibitions?


Art thieves are not known to lend out pieces for exhibitions. So I'd have to say they are worse then collectors.
 
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