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(Daily Mail)   Become a National Guard recruiter where you can have sex with female recruits, shoot the homeless with paintball guns, pay female homeless to flash your recruits and file fraudulent recruiting numbers for bonus money...and no repercussions   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 69
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2012-10-16 11:51:54 PM
Can we get an "Arizona" tag already? They're giving Florida a pretty good run for their money.
 
2012-10-17 01:03:38 AM

fusillade762: Can we get an "Arizona" tag already? They're giving Florida a pretty good run for their money.


Sure can!

img.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-17 01:31:59 AM
Hey, at least the recruiters aren't promising cocaine and hookers like they used to.
 
2012-10-17 02:58:13 AM
Obviously my recruiter sucked at his job...hard.
 
2012-10-17 03:00:38 AM
How do you fake recruitment quotas? When PFC Seymour Butts doesn't show up at Fort Benning, doesn't someone ask his recruiter where the hell this kid is?
 
2012-10-17 03:01:39 AM
My brother-in-law is a National Guard recruiter, so I'm getting a kick out of this.

Either he's really good, or he has the easiest job ever - he made his quota for the year in February.
 
2012-10-17 03:03:14 AM
 
2012-10-17 03:05:29 AM
Seems like something I might want to look into.
 
2012-10-17 03:05:50 AM
From TFA: One recruiter slept with a female recruit, but was not discharged

Giggity?
 
2012-10-17 03:09:30 AM
WTF is wrong with some people ? It used to be a priviledge, and one served with honour.
Fark you, you stains . And dont give me some bs crap about quotas- You are a damn disgrace to anyone who ever wore the uniform and took the oath. I would use much stronger language, but Drew and folks frown on that. One damn time man, just one damn time - let me tell the world when this crap comes up how I really feel.
I think I am going to just have to go ban happy in another chatroom and just to everyone who uses the letter a .
Or something.
This just makes me sick.
And Major General Hugo Salazar- You had better hope that you live in a well secured place, because while I just vent and hope that something bad happens- many will make sure it does, you sorry excuse for a pee stain on the deck. Leavenworth is too good for you, asshole.
 
2012-10-17 03:13:22 AM
Round up republicans and put them in a cage.
 
2012-10-17 03:13:32 AM
Always was happy I went Reserves instead of Guard. Stories I heard in NY were tame compared to this.
 
2012-10-17 03:14:28 AM
Hey! You don't look like Kelly McGillis!
 
2012-10-17 03:38:43 AM
"No repercussions" somehow doesn't jive with "demoted to Private and given less than honorable discharge". Would be interesting to seee the real UCMJ punishment meted out i.e. were there Article 15s or is the article omitting that?
 
2012-10-17 03:42:18 AM
t2.gstatic.com

/relevant
 
2012-10-17 03:57:18 AM
Huh, DRTFA because Daily Fail, but I thought this was gonna be a rehash of what happened in Indiana a decade ago. Hell, I was turned down by the military because of asthma, but the National Guard folks were positive that I could get into the active service by first going Guard and then requesting activation or something. Army says I can't survive boot camp due to a medical condition? No problem, we won't have to send you to boot camp! And... no need to show up for ANYTHING. We'll just check the attendance sheet saying you were there. We do this all the time!

I say "Hell no, this just sounds stupid" and walk away. Next month, boom recruitment scandal on the front pages of the IndyStar. A few folks lost their jobs, some had to retire. Don't think anyone was jailed over it.

I've wondered ever since just how prevalent this was across the country. Surely it couldn't be just Indiana, right? I mean, there's 49 other states and I know that if there's a way to cheat the system word spreads fairly quickly.

I know now that Arizona is as bad as Indiana. Thanks!
 
2012-10-17 04:02:55 AM
Sign me up!
 
2012-10-17 04:31:15 AM
Wait, members of the US military use their positions of authority to do less than scrupulous deeds? Color me shocked.
 
2012-10-17 04:33:48 AM

alienated: It used to be a priviledge, and one served with honour.



When was this? 1944?
 
2012-10-17 04:56:06 AM
What... no BUSHES FAULT yet??? Must be distracted.
 
2012-10-17 05:10:00 AM

KyDave: What... no BUSHES FAULT yet??? Must be distracted.



Dumbass libs don't realize how awesome the Bush Presidency really was! am I right??
 
2012-10-17 05:28:53 AM
Sure they may have taken a few libertys with the women but the bum hunts sound like an effective recruitment evaluation and I'm not hearing any complaints from the bums that were flashed. Lighten up Francis.
 
2012-10-17 05:32:58 AM

intelligent comment below: alienated: It used to be a priviledge, and one served with honour.


When was this? 1944?


i am not *that* old.
 
2012-10-17 05:45:31 AM

shadowmaster: Sure they may have taken a few libertys with the women but the bum hunts sound like an effective recruitment evaluation and I'm not hearing any complaints from the bums that were flashed. Lighten up Francis.



Enabling sociopaths. Sounds like a great strategy
 
2012-10-17 05:55:30 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

"Look sir, an asshole!"

"Yeah I remember that guy. Call in a fire mission for me."
 
2012-10-17 06:08:25 AM

intelligent comment below: KyDave: What... no BUSHES FAULT yet??? Must be distracted.

Dumbass libs don't realize how awesome the Bush Presidency really was! am I right??


Apart from my never having made any claims about the awesomeliness of the prior administration, I would generally agree with the assessment in the first 1/7th of your post.
 
2012-10-17 06:25:32 AM
A female recruiter was but not criminally charged after admitted to forging documents so she would receive $12,000 in fraudulent recruitment bonuses she did not earn. Instead, she was transferred and became a military police officer

JEsus farking christ. You find a liar and a thief and "fix" the problem by mkaing them a cop?
 
2012-10-17 06:47:55 AM
Over zealous recruiter!!
 
2012-10-17 06:58:37 AM

KyDave: Apart from my never having made any claims about the awesomeliness of the prior administration, I would generally agree with the assessment in the first 1/7th of your post.



Cool story bro. The crying over blame Bush narrative tries to mitigate the absolute failure of his administration and tries to pretend 0bama came into office with roses and burnt the place to the ground
 
2012-10-17 07:07:50 AM
Preparation for a career in law enforcement.
 
2012-10-17 07:11:08 AM
Oh the No-Go's are at it again eh?
 
2012-10-17 07:15:23 AM

Ebbelwoi: "No repercussions" somehow doesn't jive with "demoted to Private and given less than honorable discharge". Would be interesting to seee the real UCMJ punishment meted out i.e. were there Article 15s or is the article omitting that?


I'm curious to see what UCMJ was handed down. Reporters always think that if they weren't tried in a civilian court then nothing happened.
 
2012-10-17 07:34:40 AM

liam76: A female recruiter was but not criminally charged after admitted to forging documents so she would receive $12,000 in fraudulent recruitment bonuses she did not earn. Instead, she was transferred and became a military police officer

JEsus farking christ. You find a liar and a thief and "fix" the problem by mkaing them a cop?


Often that works the other way around.
 
2012-10-17 07:43:34 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Ebbelwoi: "No repercussions" somehow doesn't jive with "demoted to Private and given less than honorable discharge". Would be interesting to seee the real UCMJ punishment meted out i.e. were there Article 15s or is the article omitting that?

I'm curious to see what UCMJ was handed down. Reporters always think that if they weren't tried in a civilian court then nothing happened.


I am curious why he was not tried in a civilian court as his crimes were in part against civilians.
 
2012-10-17 07:48:04 AM

liam76: I am curious why he was not tried in a civilian court as his crimes were in part against civilians.


That almost never happens because you can't be tried for the same crime twice
 
2012-10-17 07:48:40 AM

Coffee Snob: Wait, members of the US military humans use their positions of authority to do less than scrupulous deeds? Color me shocked.


Me too.
 
2012-10-17 08:07:02 AM
The link within the article is more informative than the article posted to FARK. If any on you breezed past it, you may want to go back and read the article linked.
 
2012-10-17 08:11:45 AM
Now hear this:

russianwomentruth.com


That is all
 
2012-10-17 08:18:08 AM

RedPhoenix122: Hey, at least the recruiters aren't promising cocaine and hookers like they used to.


No that's the Secret Service
 
2012-10-17 08:29:16 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk
It's the 99% of the bad apples who give the 1% of the good apples a bad name
 
2012-10-17 08:37:15 AM

Tat'dGreaser: liam76: I am curious why he was not tried in a civilian court as his crimes were in part against civilians.

That almost never happens because you can't be tried for the same crime twice


True. I thought UCMJ was for it it was something that was only "illegal" for the military or when the victim was military and it happened on a military facility.

they were driving around with minors (and asking or showing them boobs), assaulting non-military people, off military bases. Seems they should face a civilian trial for those actions.
 
2012-10-17 08:49:36 AM

liam76: True. I thought UCMJ was for it it was something that was only "illegal" for the military or when the victim was military and it happened on a military facility.

they were driving around with minors (and asking or showing them boobs), assaulting non-military people, off military bases. Seems they should face a civilian trial for those actions.


Oh no UCMJ covers military and DoD completely. Although occasionally they do let outside law enforcement charge a soldier as well.

When I was in Germany a guy went crazy and killed his ex who was a local. If I remember correctly either the Army charged him and then the German authorities did right after. Either that or they agreed on the punishment.
 
2012-10-17 08:53:51 AM

Ebbelwoi: "No repercussions" somehow doesn't jive with "demoted to Private and given less than honorable discharge". Would be interesting to seee the real UCMJ punishment meted out i.e. were there Article 15s or is the article omitting that?


Likewise with one of them who "was allowed to be deployed overseas". (Making the possibly unfounded assumption he got sent to a war zone and not off to guard Berlin from the Soviets).
 
2012-10-17 08:59:23 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Oh no UCMJ covers military and DoD completely. Although occasionally they do let outside law enforcement charge a soldier as well.


Civilian DoD aren't subject to the DoD.

I don't think it is a matter of military "letting" civilian court decide. If a guy gets arrested out in town and is a member of the military they don't have to let the military try him.

http://military-law.lawyers.com/Military-Law-Basics/Military-Versus-Ci vilian-Court-Authority.html

If a crime violates both military and state civilian law, it may be tried by a military court, a civilian court or both. Usually the two systems will coordinate to decide where the service member should be prosecuted. A military member can't be tried for the same misconduct by both a military court and another federal court. He can be tried for the same misconduct by both a military court and a state court.
 
2012-10-17 09:19:42 AM

Sgt Otter: How do you fake recruitment quotas? When PFC Seymour Butts doesn't show up at Fort Benning, doesn't someone ask his recruiter where the hell this kid is?


With the Guard, it's easier than active duty. As soon as someone swears in at MEPS, they're considered an enlistment. If they don't swear in the second time- i.e. the morning they leave for Basic- they're a loss to the unit, but do not count against the recruiter's mission.

At least, that's how things functioned in the early 2000's, for the Reserves. I assume the Guard has a similar program, although Guard details vary a bit by state.
 
2012-10-17 09:27:49 AM
In Minnesota the Guard recruiter tried to get me to lie about my asthma history. I didn't (and don't) use an inhaler regularly, so he tried to get me to check the wrong box. I declined.
 
2012-10-17 09:34:11 AM
Stopped reading at "Arizona."

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2012-10-17 10:03:46 AM

Coffee Snob: Wait, members of the US military use their positions of authority to do less than scrupulous deeds? Color me shocked.


recruiter have ALWAYS had a bad rep, this song was originally written in about 1915 or so:

As I was walking down the road
A feeling fine and larky oh
A recruiting sergeant came up to me
Says he, you'd look fine in khaki oh
For the King he is in need of men
Come read this proclamation oh
A life in Flanders for you then
Would be a fine vacation oh

That may be so says I to him
But tell me sergeant dearie-oh
If I had a pack stuck upon my back
Would I look fine and cheerie oh
For they'd have you train and drill until
They had you one of the Frenchies oh
It may be warm in Flanders
But it's draughty in the trenches oh

The sergeant smiled and winked his eye
His smile was most provoking oh
He twiddled and twirled his wee mustache
Says he, I know you're only joking oh
For the sandbags are so warm and high
The wind you won't feel blowing oh
Well I winked at a cailin passing by
Says I, what if it's snowing oh

Come rain or hail or wind or snow
I'm not going out to Flanders oh
There's fighting in Dublin to be done
Let your sergeants and your commanders go
Let Englishmen fight English wars
It's nearly time they started oh
I saluted the sergeant a very good night
And there and then we parted oh
 
2012-10-17 10:47:23 AM
Those farkfaces should be shot to death using there own pb guns with frozen balls then there heads should be chopped off and put on a pike for all to see.

/former military and former homeless person.
// I hate those kind of behaviors and those who do shait like that are scum.
 
2012-10-17 10:47:31 AM
A friend of mine got caught up in a recruiting scandal years ago. She started sleeping with her married recruiter. He had been sleeping with a lot of female recruits. I guess one of them blabbed and it hit the fan for him. LAst I heard about him is he was busted down, given some shiatty new assignment and his wife left him.
 
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