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2012-10-17 12:10:35 PM

onyxruby: Loren: Then why did you keep allowing your mother access to your child???

I'm a man, getting full custody of a child in court is very difficult. She has a previous court record for threatening to kill her older child. CPS took her older child away from her twice. She has put my son in the hospital (4) or urgent care (1) times in the last year and a half through neglect. She has been hospitalized for mental health problems seven times. There are a number of other significant issues as well.

I've been fighting in court for the last year and a half to get full custody of my son. I have absolutely nothing against me other than being male. Being a man in family court is like being a black in the south in 1800's, you don't stand a chance in hell.


Why would you procreate with a crazy person?
 
2012-10-17 12:11:25 PM

beerrun: [pjmedia.com image 650x465]

[www.treknicalities.com image 680x486]
Captain, I'm detecting large quantities of Nguyen in this sector.


What are they clones or something? Do they seriously all have the exact same hairstyle? Strange.

/Conform is the norm!
 
2012-10-17 12:15:38 PM

Ant: give me doughnuts: We're preventing the weak ones from dying in infancy, thus degrading the species.

Thanks for that analysis, Dr. Eugene Icks.

Yes, lets leave everyone at the mercy of natural selection. That's a good idea.



If eating foods that humans have been eating ever since they evolved into humans can kill you, you aren't supposed to be alive. It's like being allergic to carbon.
 
2012-10-17 12:19:52 PM

WhippingBoy: Words that actually mean something nowadays:

discombobulate
racist
misogynist
classist
bully


anewatlantis.com

Agrees.
 
2012-10-17 12:23:33 PM

give me doughnuts: Ant: give me doughnuts: We're preventing the weak ones from dying in infancy, thus degrading the species.

Thanks for that analysis, Dr. Eugene Icks.

Yes, lets leave everyone at the mercy of natural selection. That's a good idea.


If eating foods that humans have been eating ever since they evolved into humans can kill you, you aren't supposed to be alive. It's like being allergic to carbon.


Or you could, yanno, get desensitized. That's still an option.

Besides, this "supposed to be alive" nonsense is brought to you by the same people who see a dam made by man and decry it as an "unnatural monstrosity", but see a dam made by beavers and are quick to point out how harmonious it is with nature.
 
2012-10-17 12:27:26 PM

Mike Chewbacca: Why would you procreate with a crazy person?


Didn't know she was crazy until after we got married. She was heavily medicated (and appeared stable) until after we got married. She lied about how heavily medicated and dependent she was on those medicines for her mental stability. I didn't learn about the assorted things I mentioned until /after/ we separated, or I never would have married her. She told me she simply had a minor mental health issue for low level bi-polar and I trusted her. Yeah, she lied her ass off and I fell for it. She's with a new guy now and I'm debating whether or not to warn him off or not.

Your point stands though, don't stick your dick in crazy.
 
2012-10-17 12:35:15 PM

onyxruby: Mike Chewbacca: Why would you procreate with a crazy person?

Didn't know she was crazy until after we got married. She was heavily medicated (and appeared stable) until after we got married. She lied about how heavily medicated and dependent she was on those medicines for her mental stability. I didn't learn about the assorted things I mentioned until /after/ we separated, or I never would have married her. She told me she simply had a minor mental health issue for low level bi-polar and I trusted her. Yeah, she lied her ass off and I fell for it. She's with a new guy now and I'm debating whether or not to warn him off or not.

Your point stands though, don't stick your dick in crazy.


My wife has severe bi-polar disorder, but she was honest enough to tell me about it very early in our relationship. Married for six years and we've known each other for about twelve. It's not fun at times, I admit, but there's a difference between a douchebag and a great person- whether or not they have a disorder.
 
2012-10-17 12:37:51 PM
What the hell with that teacher? Then again, that girl should just have spined up and said "I'm not farking going to that class."

My kid has a peanut allergy and it's nothing to fark with. You don't "get used to it."
 
2012-10-17 12:48:13 PM
SO sick of this bullying craze. This is not bullying, this is a teacher not realizing what it is that she is doing. Hell, she's a Spanish teacher, I don't expect her to know enough about anything else to realize that burning a candle with oil based scent would bother someone with an allergy.
 
2012-10-17 12:50:16 PM
"Nuts"

www.thedropzone.org

obscure?
 
2012-10-17 12:52:12 PM

Smoky Dragon Dish: AbbeySomeone: TerminalEchoes: gameshowhost: In before morons claiming that the kid is faking the allergy.

She might not be completely faking it but if the very smell of nuts causes allergic reactions (which I doubt), she should be living in a bubble.

Scented candles and room fresheners etc can trigger allergic reactions in many people.

Whatever they put in potpourri knocks me on my ass. That, and horses. it sucks. I can never be a cowboy.


Protip: Same chemical found in many nuts is also found in horse liniment, horse sweat, and horse manure (upon breakdown.)

Wear a respirator, be a cowboy. Enjoy it, you've got a mask that will kick the ass of any bandanna.
 
2012-10-17 12:52:55 PM

give me doughnuts: Teutonic_Knight: I have a serious question.

Back when I was in school, (80's and early 90's) I knew of one girl allergic to shellfish. That was it.

Now that I have a son in Kindergarten, 4 kids in his class of 21 are allergic to nuts and 2 cannot have gluten, soy, dairy, or nuts. What is with the allergic action reaction?

We're preventing the weak ones from dying in infancy, thus degrading the species.


Don't be stupid. People are as strong as ever, it's just that their immune systems just don't know what's actually dangerous any more because we don't let kids get dirty: hygiene hypothesis
 
2012-10-17 12:56:01 PM

SkunkWerks: My wife has severe bi-polar disorder, but she was honest enough to tell me about it very early in our relationship. Married for six years and we've known each other for about twelve. It's not fun at times, I admit, but there's a difference between a douchebag and a great person- whether or not they have a disorder.


Very true, and I was trying to be supportive and accepting of who she was as she was. Unfortunately she was quite dishonest about her mental health issues (she actually has severe bi-polar and a host of other things).

I credit both your wife for being honest and you for being able to stand by her, it isn't easy. I also wholeheartedly agree on your point about a douchebag can be a douchebag regardless of whether or not they have mental illness.
 
2012-10-17 12:58:48 PM
I'm calling bullshiat on this one.

If this was all really true then she would have not gone into the classroom a 2nd time.

But I don't believe it is true. THEY ARENT' BURNING REAL NUTS.

In before some moron who probably has a weak ass kid with "food allergies" offers a rebuttal.
 
2012-10-17 01:00:35 PM

SkunkWerks: give me doughnuts: Ant: give me doughnuts: We're preventing the weak ones from dying in infancy, thus degrading the species.

Thanks for that analysis, Dr. Eugene Icks.

Yes, lets leave everyone at the mercy of natural selection. That's a good idea.


If eating foods that humans have been eating ever since they evolved into humans can kill you, you aren't supposed to be alive. It's like being allergic to carbon.

Or you could, yanno, get desensitized. That's still an option.

Besides, this "supposed to be alive" nonsense is brought to you by the same people who see a dam made by man and decry it as an "unnatural monstrosity", but see a dam made by beavers and are quick to point out how harmonious it is with nature.


No. I like flood control and hydro-electric power.
 
2012-10-17 01:03:54 PM

JohnCarter: "Nuts"

[www.thedropzone.org image 240x310]

obscure?


2.bp.blogspot.com

Ja. Obscure.
 
2012-10-17 01:08:05 PM
Damn that evil George Washington Carver.
 
2012-10-17 01:13:49 PM

twiztedjustin: I'm calling bullshiat on this one.

If this was all really true then she would have not gone into the classroom a 2nd time.

But I don't believe it is true. THEY ARENT' BURNING REAL NUTS.

In before some moron who probably has a weak ass kid with "food allergies" offers a rebuttal.


Troll much? Just because they aren't burning real nuts doesn't mean they don't have nut oils in them. The smell comes from somewhere, and the aerosolized oils are the source. The same oils that people with nut allergies are allergic to.
 
2012-10-17 01:16:02 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: gameshowhost: In before morons claiming that the kid is faking the allergy.

Unless they're actually using nut in the candles, I'm calling BS on her allergy to that.


Nut oil. I'm the kind of person who loves the scent of almond and almond oil so I'm partial to buying myself hippie brand lotions, face scrubs, soaps and candles that contain real almond and almond oil in them. Most scented candles, and I can even bet you Yankee as well, will use derivatives from real ingredients to include various nut oils. Just the oil itself can trigger reactions.
 
2012-10-17 01:16:42 PM

mooseyfate: Jon iz teh kewl: i'm actually gonna side with the teacher on this one. cause she looks like she's being gay for attention

You try entirely too hard to be edgy and offensive. I suppose that's why no-one responds to your mind-numbingly stupid posts, half of Fark must have you on ignore by now. You're like Sarah Silverman without the looks, star-farking career, and talent. And considering she has no talent what-so-ever, that puts you in a pretty pathetic place. Quit trying so hard and you might actually come off as funny some day. Maybe. Probaby not, though.

/cue overly sarcastic attempt at witty comeback...


u don't think she has the sunken eyes "bullied" look?

cause i would have just blown out the candle and told the teacher straight up it was making my face expand, etc..

oh but it wasn't
it just smelled
and she smelled it
and it reminded her of whatt

gay

it reminded her of how it feels to be gay.
 
2012-10-17 01:18:36 PM
So...

Has it occurred to anyone yet that a nut scented candle would not necessarily have to contain any nuts, nut oil, or other nut byproducts and all this is bovine scatology?
 
2012-10-17 01:25:01 PM

plewis: What the hell with that teacher? Then again, that girl should just have spined up and said "I'm not farking going to that class."

My kid has a peanut allergy and it's nothing to fark with. You don't "get used to it."


Is he also on the "autism spectrum"? Or an "aspie"?
 
2012-10-17 01:25:31 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: mooseyfate: Jon iz teh kewl: i'm actually gonna side with the teacher on this one. cause she looks like she's being gay for attention

You try entirely too hard to be edgy and offensive. I suppose that's why no-one responds to your mind-numbingly stupid posts, half of Fark must have you on ignore by now. You're like Sarah Silverman without the looks, star-farking career, and talent. And considering she has no talent what-so-ever, that puts you in a pretty pathetic place. Quit trying so hard and you might actually come off as funny some day. Maybe. Probaby not, though.

/cue overly sarcastic attempt at witty comeback...

u don't think she has the sunken eyes "bullied" look?

cause i would have just blown out the candle and told the teacher straight up it was making my face expand, etc..

oh but it wasn't
it just smelled
and she smelled it
and it reminded her of whatt

gay

it reminded her of how it feels to be gay.


Case in point. You're not funny. You're not clever. You're not even good at trolling, which on this site is like shooting fish in a barrel. Give up and create a new alt.
 
2012-10-17 01:26:27 PM

hdhale: So...

Has it occurred to anyone yet that a nut scented candle would not necessarily have to contain any nuts, nut oil, or other nut byproducts and all this is bovine scatology?


Well, I now know why you'll never be a medical person. Too stupid to be one.
 
2012-10-17 01:30:06 PM
img.makeupalley.com
 
2012-10-17 01:32:06 PM

twiztedjustin: I'm calling bullshiat on this one.

If this was all really true then she would have not gone into the classroom a 2nd time.

But I don't believe it is true. THEY ARENT' BURNING REAL NUTS.

In before some moron who probably has a weak ass kid with "food allergies" offers a rebuttal.


My kids are allergy free, but I will say that good nut scented candles will be made with real nut oils as the fragrance. So there is at least a sporting chance that the girl was in fact genuinely allergic to the candle.

I do find it odd that she had a third reaction. I'll give her the second one, because she thought the teacher was warned and would stop with the candle. But after the second reactiob, why the hell didn't she switch rooms?

I try to be as non-snowflakey with my kids as possible (they run with sticks) but yeah, if there was something in the classroom that was causing my child to have difficulty breathing, you bet yer fur I'd be on it like white on rice.

The teacher is not a bully. She's a selfish idiot. Mom is also an idiot.
 
2012-10-17 01:32:10 PM
Don't have an allergy, but those hazelnut-scented candles make me queasy...even before they're lit.
 
2012-10-17 01:38:44 PM

khyberkitsune: hdhale: So...

Has it occurred to anyone yet that a nut scented candle would not necessarily have to contain any nuts, nut oil, or other nut byproducts and all this is bovine scatology?

Well, I now know why you'll never be a medical person. Too stupid to be one.


So cute...I bet you think your cheap strawberry ice cream contains actual strawberry too.

Good luck with the cranial-rectal inversion problem, stay strong!
 
2012-10-17 01:39:27 PM
shop.iwnaturalcandles.co.uk

Apparently no one has purchased candles during christmas. Roasted Chestnut scented candles all over the place.
 
2012-10-17 01:40:49 PM
My god - did you see at the bottom of the page another article about a 8 yr old boy tied to a tree and set on fire??! Horrible story and the attacker, Christian Slater / Don Collins looks llike a freak!
 
2012-10-17 01:42:08 PM

Gordon Bennett: [pjmedia.com image 650x465]

/deliberately hotlinked to steal pyjamas media's bandwidth


all look the same to me.
 
2012-10-17 01:44:05 PM
if they'd have just circumcised the girl they wouldn't have this problem.
 
2012-10-17 01:50:45 PM

onyxruby: SkunkWerks: My wife has severe bi-polar disorder, but she was honest enough to tell me about it very early in our relationship. Married for six years and we've known each other for about twelve. It's not fun at times, I admit, but there's a difference between a douchebag and a great person- whether or not they have a disorder.

Very true, and I was trying to be supportive and accepting of who she was as she was. Unfortunately she was quite dishonest about her mental health issues (she actually has severe bi-polar and a host of other things).

I credit both your wife for being honest and you for being able to stand by her, it isn't easy. I also wholeheartedly agree on your point about a douchebag can be a douchebag regardless of whether or not they have mental illness.


I think the key is for the person who has the problem to own the problem and take responsibility for it. I've told my wife that I will always stand by her and support her.

What I can't (and won't) do is take over for her.

This sounds a lot like semantics, but really, it's important. The disorder itself is very debilitating, even under medication (as I'm sure you've noticed), and there are going to be times when- despite her best efforts- she's going to lose the fight anyway.

Helping her through those times is what I define as "supporting her". Where it crosses the line into "abuse" is when the person makes little or no effort at all to control or compensate, and expects you to pick up all that slack.

Again, coping with it's not easy, but making an effort isn't totally futile either (in fact I wouldn't even say it's half-futile). Faced with that decision, the douchebag uses the determinist's excuse and says "screw it, I'm going to be farked-up no matter how hard I try, so I may as well not try", or they'll just take the attitude that there's nothing they can do to change their predicament, at all, ever.

But she's been really great with it, all in all. I think she understand the boundaries I set, respects them, and we mostly meet in the middle, with me compensating at those times she really can't manage. I think that her attitude makes all the difference there.
 
2012-10-17 01:55:13 PM
I don't have severe allergies, but I have broken out in hives after using some of that super-smelly Tide with Downy laundry detergent. My skin also burns and gets tiny bumps if any of my makeup has sunscreen in it (I am a big believe in sunscreen, but I can only use the old school TiO2 type).

I don't have much difficulty finding the 'free' products with no perfumes or dyes. However, finding makeup without sunscreen is a biatch. Also, that SPF 15 is fooling women into thinking they don't need any additional sunscreen and they are not using sunscreen when they should. Finally, I'm a crazy paranoid person, but those chemical sunscreens have not been used long term. If you buy baby sunscreen it is the old school physical sunscreen. So if that isn't safe for babies, why are we putting it on our faces EVERY SINGLE DAY?
 
2012-10-17 02:03:52 PM
www.wearysloth.com

NVTS
 
2012-10-17 02:10:41 PM

SkunkWerks: But she's been really great with it, all in all. I think she understand the boundaries I set, respects them, and we mostly meet in the middle, with me compensating at those times she really can't manage. I think that her attitude makes all the difference there.


Sounds like your doing well, my ex and I separated over her refusal to take medication and get professional help that she needed. I tried for three years, so I can say I more than put in a good faith effort. I spent a lot of time talking with her medical professionals trying to get her help when she refused on her own.

The ironic thing is now that were separated the judge has bluntly told her that is she doesn't take her medicine and maintain the professional help she needs that she'll lose shared custody of our son. By getting divorced she is now forced to do the very thing she refused to do while we were married and that led to the divorce to begin with.
 
2012-10-17 02:23:27 PM

groppet: Teutonic_Knight: I have a serious question.

Back when I was in school, (80's and early 90's) I knew of one girl allergic to shellfish. That was it.

Now that I have a son in Kindergarten, 4 kids in his class of 21 are allergic to nuts and 2 cannot have gluten, soy, dairy, or nuts. What is with the allergic action reaction?

Ive noticed that as well. We had one kid in the whole school that was allergic to everything. So he basically ate rice cakes. I was with my sister in law and she showed me a list of things that my niece cant bring to school. It seems like she is the only one not allergic to anything. Hell if you toss a bag of peanuts at an elementary school you could be labeled a terrorist


I blame it on people over sanitizing their houses as it causes your immune system to get all fat and lazy. On a couch. With a beer. While hogging the remote.

Anecdotal but worth saying:
My aunt is one of the people that sprays everything with Clorox and is also afraid to touch dirt. Similarly, she gets sick constantly and has an allergic reaction when any neighbor in a 2 block radius cuts their grass. Because she is sick all the time, she becomes more diligent with exterminating all bacteria in her vicinity and subsequently get sick more often. It's a vicious cycle that I don't think she will ever reverse.

Every time I start to feel bad for her, I conjure up the image of her cutting her own grass while wearing a white medical mask. That image usually makes me feel better.

Moral of the story? Go out and eat some mud. It will do your body good.

/throwing bags of peanuts = terroristic actions? +1...I laughed.
 
2012-10-17 02:42:51 PM
Who wants to go through their school days smelling their teacher's nuts?
 
2012-10-17 02:44:39 PM
according to how many kids these days have peanut allergies George Washington Carver is the new scapegoat of chemical warfare----just like when the natives accepted a nice warm (disease infested) blanket and died----here's a cookie (with peanuts) because you've been such a good little boy----PLOP.
 
2012-10-17 02:48:29 PM

onyxruby: Mike Chewbacca: Why would you procreate with a crazy person?

Didn't know she was crazy until after we got married. She was heavily medicated (and appeared stable) until after we got married. She lied about how heavily medicated and dependent she was on those medicines for her mental stability. I didn't learn about the assorted things I mentioned until /after/ we separated, or I never would have married her. She told me she simply had a minor mental health issue for low level bi-polar and I trusted her. Yeah, she lied her ass off and I fell for it. She's with a new guy now and I'm debating whether or not to warn him off or not.

Your point stands though, don't stick your dick in crazy.


I see you met my ex-wife too. Sorry, bro.
 
2012-10-17 02:50:56 PM
I prefer the "free" detergents, not because I have allergies but because I don't know why I need them. I like my clothes not smelling of anything. I can understand some people liking their clothes "mountain fresh" or whatever, but why the dyes? You only see a little bit of the detergent for a couple of seconds every time you use it. Are those couple of seconds so important and impacting that they have to be dyed?
Also, dyes and perfumes don't help with the actual cleaning of the garments, afaict.
 
2012-10-17 03:20:53 PM

Vangor: TerminalEchoes: She might not be completely faking it but if the very smell of nuts causes allergic reactions (which I doubt), she should be living in a bubble.

Presumably would release particulate of the oil into the air which causes her respiratory issues. Seems reasonable to me considering how thick the smell is from scented candles.


Well, that doesnt make any sense, because an allergy is a reaction to a protein. People who are allergic to peanuts can safely eat foods fried in peanut oil because none of the protein remains (unless its some fancy cold pressed nut oil, but you wouldnt be using that for frying, or for candles). Why a scented candle would be throwing out nut proteins, i have no idea. Im not saying shes faking, but it might be psychosomatic, she smells nuts and that triggers a reaction even if the allergen isnt actually present.
 
2012-10-17 03:34:46 PM
Nut scented? Chances of having real nuts, 0.
 
2012-10-17 04:08:06 PM

mooseyfate: Jon iz teh kewl: mooseyfate: Jon iz teh kewl: i'm actually gonna side with the teacher on this one. cause she looks like she's being gay for attention

You try entirely too hard to be edgy and offensive. I suppose that's why no-one responds to your mind-numbingly stupid posts, half of Fark must have you on ignore by now. You're like Sarah Silverman without the looks, star-farking career, and talent. And considering she has no talent what-so-ever, that puts you in a pretty pathetic place. Quit trying so hard and you might actually come off as funny some day. Maybe. Probaby not, though.

/cue overly sarcastic attempt at witty comeback...

u don't think she has the sunken eyes "bullied" look?

cause i would have just blown out the candle and told the teacher straight up it was making my face expand, etc..

oh but it wasn't
it just smelled
and she smelled it
and it reminded her of whatt

gay

it reminded her of how it feels to be gay.

Case in point. You're not funny. You're not clever. You're not even good at trolling, which on this site is like shooting fish in a barrel. Give up and create a new alt.


sorry i'm not ghay.
 
2012-10-17 04:50:11 PM
I'm just astounded that anyone who make or purchase a candle designed to replicate the smell of nuts. That just seems like a completely bizarre concept.
 
2012-10-17 05:26:15 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: she's being gay


Jon iz teh kewl: "i'm too gay to fend for myself"


Jon iz teh kewl: gay

it reminded her of how it feels to be gay.


Jon iz teh kewl:

sorry i'm not ghay.



Jon iz teh closet case.
 
2012-10-17 08:43:56 PM

SkunkWerks: Or you could, yanno, get desensitized. That's still an option.

Besides, this "supposed to be alive" nonsense is brought to you by the same people who see a dam made by man and decry it as an "unnatural monstrosity", but see a dam made by beavers and are quick to point out how harmonious it is with nature.


Desensitization doesn't work for everybody.

Cyno01: Well, that doesnt make any sense, because an allergy is a reaction to a protein. People who are allergic to peanuts can safely eat foods fried in peanut oil because none of the protein remains (unless its some fancy cold pressed nut oil, but you wouldnt be using that for frying, or for candles). Why a scented candle would be throwing out nut proteins, i have no idea. Im not saying shes faking, but it might be psychosomatic, she smells nuts and that triggers a reaction even if the allergen isnt actually present.


Most of the protein is gone, not all of it.
 
2012-10-18 05:59:58 AM

Loren: Desensitization doesn't work for everybody.


No, that's true. And even when it does work it takes a long, painful time for the effort to actually pay off.

But, if you're that allergic to common substances, it seems worth a try, I'd think. And is certainly a better alternative to executing- by intent or through negligence- everyone who finds themselves in this sort of predicament.
 
2012-10-18 09:06:21 AM

Dragonflew: Jon iz teh kewl: she's being gay

Jon iz teh kewl: "i'm too gay to fend for myself"

Jon iz teh kewl: gay

it reminded her of how it feels to be gay.

Jon iz teh kewl:

sorry i'm not ghay.


Jon iz teh closet case.


oh yeah cuz gay = homosexual too.

ha ha ha

because they're soo happy
 
2012-10-18 10:59:46 AM

Jon iz teh kewl: because they're soo happy


Jon iz teh grumpeh?
 
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