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(Discover)   Red Bull may give you wings, but the public and private US space program is poised to give you the Universe   ( divider line
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5796 clicks; posted to Geek » on 16 Oct 2012 at 5:10 PM (5 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2012-10-17 03:29:59 AM  
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2012-10-16 05:36:13 PM  
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me texan: I'll just leave this here..

That image macro is so farking annoying. Get back to me when Red Bull is sponsoring some guy to go to Mars to jump out of a capsule, land, and start doing science experiments for four years.
2012-10-17 09:24:27 AM  
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Glockenspiel Hero

It fits in well with the Republican "Obama destroyed the space program" meme that you see pop up quite a bit.

I've always found this meme very odd- not because it's wrong (Bush killed the shuttle, not Obama) because most of what Republicans say today can be easily proven wrong

I'm not a republican but go ahead and bust these "myths"
* Obama cancels Moon return project

* In its budget submitted to Congress on February 13, the Obama administration zeroed out funding for NASA's future Mars-exploration missions. The Mars Science Lab Curiosity, currently en route to the Red Planet and the nearly completed small MAVEN orbiter, scheduled for launch in 2013, will be sent, but that's it. No funding has been provided for the Mars probes planned as joint missions in 2016 and 2018 with the European Space Agency, and nothing after that is funded either.

* President Obama's 2011 budget request for NASA cut the agency's Constellation program completely, effectively canceling a five-year, $9 billion effort to build new Orion spacecraft and Ares rockets.
+ Orion was eventually saved by voter backlash, but dumbed down to a useless "emergency escape capsule for the International Space Station"
+ Ares - Our next gen heavy lifter is dead and NO plans exist for any replacement.

* NASA Director Says Muslim Outreach Push 'Deeply Flawed'
Nasa director? Lets be dismissive and ad hominem him as a rich, racist, white guy. oh... he's black 

* The head of the Nasa has said Barack Obama told him to make "reaching out to the Muslim world" one of the space agency's top priorities.
Why is he making religious nuts feel warm 'n fuzzy a higher priority than you know.... our National Air and Space priorities? Go ahead and put up your poutrage defense of this stupidity, but we all know if bush had set reaching out to Catholics, Jews, Protestants or Mormons you would have gone apoplectic.

* Who's More Pro-Science, Republicans or Democrats? Another rich, white guy right? Nope, Obama supporter and FARK hero, Neil deGrasse Tyson

Why do democrats hate science?
2012-10-17 06:55:55 AM  
1 vote:
I may have been the only person in the world who misunderstood the meme, but I took it as a mockery of pretty much every nation that isn't the U.S. Oh well. Only issue I have with it is that it's not even remotely close to space. You can't get to space in a balloon to begin with.

As for the stunt itself, it was pretty cool; the only thing that pissed me off about it was the whole "mission control" thing which was basically a few guys in a small room trying in vain to communicate with a jumper who was making all the assessments himself anyway. That the stuntman had a support team on the ground is fine; that they cosmetically imitated a professional mission control operation was grating. You're a bunch of clock-punchers for a goddamned sugar drink company watching a stuntman perform a trick, not NASA.

What really did me in is that it turns out the guy didn't break the world record by much in the first place. He broke the altitude record for manned balloon flight. Which is great, except the difference was 128,176ft to 123,800ft and the old record was set in 1966. The '66 guy even planned to jump; he just had to abort and didn't make a subsequent attempt. He broke the highest freefall record by a good 25,000 ft, but for the human part of the equation, in terms of difficulty, I don't think there's a whole lot of difference between 102,800ft and 128,176ft. That record was set in 1960.

That's not to say it was easy. It's an impressive feat, any way you slice it. But it's NOT a space program; it's a company and a stuntman throwing a lot of resources to break a record that few other people put any sort of effort into. The accomplishment is impressive on its own, but the results are more or less expected considering the 50-year advantage in tech.
2012-10-17 12:32:57 AM  
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2012-10-16 07:58:12 PM  
1 vote:

Mentat: -Place a solar satellite at a Lagrange point

A how how how how did they do that?!?
2012-10-16 07:49:18 PM  
1 vote:
NASA's accomplihsments:
-Putting a man into orbit and bringing him back alive
-Sending a spacecraft to orbit the moon and bringing it back intact
-Putting men on the moon and bringing them back alive
-Putting communications satellites into stable orbits
-Sending a reuasable spacecraft into orbit and bringing it back intact (usually)
-Building two long-term manned space stations
-Landing a probe on Venus
-Landing multiple probes on Mars
-Putting satellites into Mars orbit
-Landing rovers wrapped in bubble warp on Mars
-Landing a rover on Mars using some freaky parachute rocket thing
-Sending two probes to interstellar space
-Sending spacecraft to Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto
-Landing a spacecraft on an asteroid
-Land a probe on Titan
-Send a spacecraft to do a flyby of a comet and return samples intact to Earth
-Place a solar satellite at a Lagrange point
-Build space telescopes capable of viewing the edge of the universe, observing black holes, and detecting 700+ extrasolar planets

Red Bull's accomplishments:
-Throw a man off of a balloon without killing him

The private sector is doing some great things, but most of what NASA has done you never would have seen from the private sector alone because there is no profit in spending a probe to interstellar space. It's the job of government to assume the risk of the big projects so once the technology is proven, the private sector can step in and refine it and make it profitable.
2012-10-16 06:17:23 PM  
1 vote:
Let's see Red Bull land an instrument laden minivan on Mars and then we'll talk.
2012-10-16 05:42:23 PM  
1 vote:

me texan: I'll just leave this here..
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Red Bull does the International Space Station, asteroid rendezvous, Solar observatories, Kepler and Hubble and other deep-space telescopes, and the Mars rovers too? Nice.
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