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(Time)   Remember that teenage Pakistani girl that was shot by the Taliban? Looks like a few of them may have tried to pay her a visit at the UK hospital she's in   (world.time.com) divider line 90
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2012-10-16 01:53:50 PM  
9 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.
2012-10-16 02:26:34 PM  
6 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com


Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.
2012-10-16 01:59:29 PM  
6 votes:

Mentalpatient87: No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.


The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Hate is hate, and if your religion gives you an excuse to inflict that hate on others AND you don't have to suffer consequences for it...
2012-10-16 01:56:33 PM  
6 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


the reason they don't have power here is because we have a stable and powerful police force and rule of law. without this stability, the crazies are usually the ones in power because they're the most likely to use force.

people don't end up supporting them so much as they realize that the crazies have dominated the area, and that you have to do what you're told because they have guns and will kill your children for looking at them the wrong way.
2012-10-16 01:53:30 PM  
6 votes:
This amply demonstrates the fear that these groups have of an educated female populace.
2012-10-16 01:15:56 PM  
6 votes:
Farking fundamentalists
2012-10-16 01:58:41 PM  
5 votes:
Seems to me a couple of public news announcements stating "Malala has been moved to such and such hospital in this nearly abandoned wing..." along with a few SAS guys, you know, just hanging out at said hospital might solve quite a few problems.

Kind of like sending "You've won SUPERBOWL tickets!" to wanted felons and arresting them when they inevitably show up to pick them up....
2012-10-16 01:55:00 PM  
4 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


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Would all like a word with you
2012-10-16 01:54:45 PM  
4 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


No, all of them. Fu*k them all.
2012-10-16 01:52:42 PM  
4 votes:

Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.


Arab Spring? Take a look at what's happening in Africa and the Middle East. It's spring if you're a Muslim fundamentalist. It's winter for everyone else.
2012-10-16 01:52:38 PM  
4 votes:
this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)
2012-10-16 01:51:37 PM  
4 votes:
I am Enzo, the baker!
2012-10-16 02:13:23 PM  
3 votes:
Filthy rutting animals. She's with the grownups now, middle easterners. Go back to your huts and fark your daughters.
2012-10-16 02:11:21 PM  
3 votes:

Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.


There have been massive rallies allover the Arab world and particularly in Pakistan and Afghanistan in support of this girl, and it was the Hyper-conservative UAE government that got her out of Pakistan and is paying for her stay in London, so, yeah, PR-wise I'd say the Taliban farked up right and proper on this one. That's why they are trying to finish this girl off, because if they can't loved right now they at least want to be feared, which is hard to do when a fourteen-year old girl isn't afraid to give you the finger
2012-10-16 02:10:36 PM  
3 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


What makes you think christian* fundies are any better? They're human shiat. All of them. Every last one.

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*or buddhists, hindus, jews, etc, etc until we all blow up

/yeah, the pic is hotlinked
2012-10-16 02:07:05 PM  
3 votes:
It's great to know that both the western media is acknowledging this happening and that people in the Middle East are rallying in support for her. But the Taliban are going to be pissed that people are calling them out instead of kneeling to them. They're probably going to do more crap to get them to submit.

Keep on fighting, Malala. And keep on fighting, citizens of Pakistan.
2012-10-16 02:03:02 PM  
3 votes:

Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!


This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.
2012-10-16 01:55:59 PM  
3 votes:
The sad thing about this is that as soon as something happens to Kim Kardashian or Lilo dies or Madonna gets into a disfiguring car wreck, this girl is going to get absolutely no attention from the hoards of Facebook crusaders that are all atwitter about this event.

Remember this one?

cache.gawker.com

Vaguely, maybe. Yeah didn't Saddam kill her or sumpin?

Wait what!

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All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.
2012-10-16 01:51:53 PM  
3 votes:

Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists


FTFY
2012-10-16 01:50:27 PM  
3 votes:
I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.
2012-10-16 02:34:08 PM  
2 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.


HAHA! You mean the daughters they would honor kill for going to school? They're cheering this. They're not shocked by it.
2012-10-16 02:27:55 PM  
2 votes:
Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!
2012-10-16 02:24:46 PM  
2 votes:

JackieRabbit: Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.


That up there. It's gawdamn sickening the opportunity we pissed away chasing snipes in Baghdad.
2012-10-16 02:24:26 PM  
2 votes:
Life is a gift. In a 100 years there will be a completely different set of people on this planet.

/poor girl
2012-10-16 02:17:27 PM  
2 votes:

pute kisses like a man: ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)

the reason they don't have power here is because we have a stable and powerful police force and rule of law. without this stability, the crazies are usually the ones in power because they're the most likely to use force.

people don't end up supporting them so much as they realize that the crazies have dominated the area, and that you have to do what you're told because they have guns and will kill your children for looking at them the wrong way.


This. The fundies would stage another American revolution in a heartbeat, if they thought there was any chance of success.
2012-10-16 02:12:27 PM  
2 votes:

desertgeek: Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!

This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.



You guys sound kinda, I don't know the exact word for it, excessively enthusiastic or something...
2012-10-16 02:11:09 PM  
2 votes:

YouFarkingIdiot: ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

Would all like a word with you

In your world, I'm guessing that 0.0001% and 10% mean the same thing, right?


To the people who get killed by either of those groups of assholes. ....YES!
2012-10-16 02:09:56 PM  
2 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day
2012-10-16 02:06:28 PM  
2 votes:
It's a sad thing when a fourteen year old girl is viewed as such a threat.
2012-10-16 02:00:42 PM  
2 votes:

fawlty: Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?


She was actively trying to escape the shiathole by getting an education.
2012-10-16 01:56:48 PM  
2 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


These are religious crazies who shoot people, throw grenades, poison wells, and suicide-bomb markets.
Our religious crazies shout and wave signs.

Which group would you be the most wary of?
2012-10-16 01:51:28 PM  
2 votes:
It's just a little misunderstanding. I'm sure we can clear this all up with a rational conversation over a beer.
2012-10-16 01:49:58 PM  
2 votes:
Time to dial up some more drone strikes, Talibastards.
2012-10-16 01:49:40 PM  
2 votes:
Goddammitsomuch
2012-10-16 07:12:00 PM  
1 votes:

G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.


Put gays, lesbians behind electric fence? Pastor's sermon goes viral
2012-10-16 06:00:24 PM  
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: Poowaddins: G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.

Ignoring the inappropriate ad hominem...you obviously don't live in the Bible Belt. The only thing different between Evangelical Christian fundies and the Taliban, is that they don't have major control over the local, state, and federal governments...yet.

Some of the things I've heard around here in Southern Indiana from Evanglical Christians are downright farking scary, and every year there's more and more of them saying it louder and louder.

- They want to kill teh gheys

- They want to murder people who are pro-choice (because we all
- They believe women with educations and jobs outside the home are an abomination (heard from a middle-aged woman at a beauty shop) (Yes, she was asked to leave the premises with shampoo still in her hair)

- They believe alcohol should be prohibited

- They believe people who work on Sundays should be killed

- They don't want the different races to intermarry/breed


So tell me again how they're different in their views?

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One isolated nutjob does not make a group. That is like saying Pol Pot and his killing of non-atheists speaks for all atheists.


Come to Indiana and talk with folks. Seriously, this is stuff I overhear at Steak N Shake at 2 am. This shiat he is talking about factored a lot into my deciding to leave the insurance business. I couldn't stand to be around there anymore. I knew kids who were disowned by their parents and shunned by their congregation for deciding to go to college and become nurses or something. I know kids who were sent to a camp out west where they were trained as a paramilitary militia to overthrow the government in the name of Jesus when gay marriage is legalized. It was part of a big homeschooling thing in the area.

When I went back to school, we had half the class walk out the first day in Intro to Archaeology and Human Origins. In Intro to Cultural Anthropology, it took until the religion section of the class but a third of the class decided to walk out and take an F (since they couldn't drop it at that point) rather than listen to someone put other religions on the same level as Christianity. To many people, there IS only one religion, and so freedom of religion only applies to Christianity. The others are "cults" or don't worship the Christian God so by definition they can't be a religion, therefore they have no rights. The Intervarsity Christian Athletes talked that angle up quite a bit.

The number reason why people I have known support libertarianism? So they can pass local laws bringing back segregation and forbidding non-white, non-fundamentalist Christians from even visiting their communities. Now, I know that's not true everywhere, but that has been my experience in southern Indiana.

All of this is supported by certain churches. Go to a mainstream Protestant church and you're probably not going to run into it too much, although my wife was horrified by what was being taught at the United Methodist church in our town (she decided to attend the one in Bloomington instead). The independent churches are the ones where this sort of thing grows. They don't have oversite or accountability built in like most denominations do.
2012-10-16 04:58:47 PM  
1 votes:

Gdalescrboz: Nice to see the libs come out in full militaristic force when they hear of things like this. If you guys could get it into your head that this type of things happens multiple times a day maybe you would understand why the US is there. Stop acting like you care about this girl, everyone knows that tomorrow you wil have forgotten the incident and be back to biatching about the US presence there.


You guys acted like you cared when you bombed them...
2012-10-16 03:53:35 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


You know we have the separation of church and state? They don't. They have power and support because they have the authority of government. When our fundamentalists claim there is no separation between church of state, this is the road they are trying to take us down.
2012-10-16 03:52:58 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: lordjupiter: puppetmaster745: optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.

While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x322]
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.

Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.

Same buttons, much different reactions. Besides a handful of Christian fanatics that have killed in the name of their religion, what problem do you have with the rest of them?



I have no problem with religious people who don't bother other people.

I do have a problem with religious fanatics who bother other people, and especially those that think only the other guy does it. When that's proven wrong, it's only a "handful". When that's proven wrong, it's supposedly not as bad, and is used as a platform for bashing the other religion and deflecting responsibility for holding one's own faith and faithful to the same standards.

This is what's commonly called "bullshiat", or "special pleading".
2012-10-16 03:47:27 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.

Not true. By blaming "fundamentalists", the poster was lumping all religions in with the one responsible for this act. That was where the talk about Christians started. I'm not going all the way back up the thread, but wasn't that the Boobies?

/Or are you trolling?

No the poster was lumping all fundamentalists in with the ones responsible for this act.

farking fundamentalists - condemns fundamentalists
farking religious fundamentalists - condemns religious fundamentalists
farking religion - condemns religion
farking butthurt assholes who just love to think they are oppressed - condemns people like you


"Fundamentalists" in a thread about a Taliban attack - condemns religious fundamentalists


Even if that were true it still doesn't condemn all religion or all religious people by a damn long shot.
2012-10-16 03:45:06 PM  
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: First off, this thread is about the Taliban.


So farking what?

Second, until the leaders of the fundies (not isolated nutjobs, there are those in everygroup) start talking about killing off gays, Democrats and whatnot, then it is a really stupid comparison.

The only reason the leading US fundies don't openly advocate killing gays is because it's against the law. Meanwhile:

US Religious Right Presses Anti-gay Laws In Africa
More American Christian Groups Named As Fomenting Anti-Gay Hate In Africa
How Deep Is the Republican Christian Right's Connection to the Anti-Gay Bills Sweeping Sub-Saharan Africa?
US religious right presses anti-gay laws in Africa
US evangelical Christians accused of promoting homophobia in Africa 

So yeah, life under US fundies would be every bit as bad as it is under the taliban.

And just for laughs (NSFW audio):

EAT DA POO POO
2012-10-16 03:39:47 PM  
1 votes:

machoprogrammer: lordjupiter: Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.

They have a right to be offended and pissed off, as does anyone for whatever reason. They didn't get violent and stabby over it, which is fantastic.



They can be pised off all they want, but it doesn't make them right or mean they have to be taken seriously. And again, it doesn't mean they're OK just because they're not "stabby".


Plus, Xtians have reacted violently to Piss Christ:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/piss-christ-art-and-violence/

On Palm Sunday in 2011, for instance, a group of radical young Christians stormed a gallery in Avignon, France, which was displaying Piss Christ as part of an exhibit. They made their way past security, threatened a guard with a hammer, broke through the Plexiglas protecting the image, and slashed it with a sharp object. In 1997 at the National Gallery of Victoria in Australia, the work was also vandalized, and gallery officials received death threats for showing it. In 2007, a group of neo-Nazis attacked a Serrano show in Sweden (though Piss Christ was not on display there).


So yeah, I call bullshiat.

There are a lot of incidents that pass through the news where Christian beliefs are part of some crime, or COULD be, and nothing is said about it. Because the reply is always the same: "not a real Christian" and "doesn't represent all Christians". So why are exceptions made and individuals the issue in one case, and dogma and culture in the other, when there's plenty there to implicate all of the above in both cases?
2012-10-16 03:37:54 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.

Not true. By blaming "fundamentalists", the poster was lumping all religions in with the one responsible for this act. That was where the talk about Christians started. I'm not going all the way back up the thread, but wasn't that the Boobies?

/Or are you trolling?


No the poster was lumping all fundamentalists in with the ones responsible for this act.

farking fundamentalists - condemns fundamentalists
farking religious fundamentalists - condemns religious fundamentalists
farking religion - condemns religion
farking butthurt assholes who just love to think they are oppressed - condemns people like you
2012-10-16 03:27:22 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.

While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x322]
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.


Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.
2012-10-16 03:25:57 PM  
1 votes:
Two likeliest suspects for the "relatives" at the hospital: Paparazzi (95 percent chance). Five percent chance it was these guys.
2012-10-16 03:19:54 PM  
1 votes:

hagar129: And we want to bring democracy to these folks?


The only way to un-fark a place like this is to build some sort of a stable working and middle class so people have something to lose.
2012-10-16 03:11:45 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


You didn't fix shiat. Islamic fundamentalists are just the offspring of Catholic Fundamentalists are just the offspring of Jewish Fundamentalists. Fundamentalism is a disease by itself, the religion it attaches itself to is irrelevant.
2012-10-16 03:08:09 PM  
1 votes:

G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.


Ignoring the inappropriate ad hominem...you obviously don't live in the Bible Belt. The only thing different between Evangelical Christian fundies and the Taliban, is that they don't have major control over the local, state, and federal governments...yet.

Some of the things I've heard around here in Southern Indiana from Evanglical Christians are downright farking scary, and every year there's more and more of them saying it louder and louder.

- They want to kill teh gheys

- They want to murder people who are pro-choice (because we all
- They believe women with educations and jobs outside the home are an abomination (heard from a middle-aged woman at a beauty shop) (Yes, she was asked to leave the premises with shampoo still in her hair)

- They believe alcohol should be prohibited

- They believe people who work on Sundays should be killed

- They don't want the different races to intermarry/breed


So tell me again how they're different in their views?
2012-10-16 03:06:02 PM  
1 votes:

kindms: MoeSzyslak: Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!

People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.


Well both of you are incorrect.
First, Abortion clinic bombings and doctor murders are a bit more extreme than sign waving.

Second, The US doesn't wontonly kill innocent people. It is a tragedy for sure but it is not a policy goal of the US to kill civilians that don't agree with us.
2012-10-16 03:02:27 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?


No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.
2012-10-16 03:00:13 PM  
1 votes:

MoeSzyslak: Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!


People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.
2012-10-16 02:57:37 PM  
1 votes:
Were they driving a black '68 Charger with six hubcaps?
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2012-10-16 02:57:09 PM  
1 votes:

Rent Party: All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.


There are 10000+ man demonstrations over the Taliban attacking her in Afghanistan, man. Where there's barely been a protest half that size even over the drone strikes killing civilians.

There's a reason this is sticking in the news and some of the other stuff hasn't, and that's because the US's opinion does not matter in the region. It's important because Afghanistan actually cares and is reacting against the Taliban finally. And, for the same reason, it's probably not going away, and it doesn't really matter whether US news stops talking about it at some point or not.
2012-10-16 02:53:49 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it

I am really worried about a fundie jainist.

A fundamental athiest just has a strong belief in no God.

Fundies aren't always a problem depending on the topic/belief system. I think the word you are looking for is extremist or militiant.


Who the fark decided to label these asshats as "fundamentalists" in the first place?

Their beliefs are rarely more "fundamental" than other peoples. Why can't we use a more appropriate term of "gullible emotion-driven spiteful idiots".

I've never had a problem with someone for merely espousing that they knew the secrets of the universe denied to the rest of humanity. I mean, welcome to all the religious people I know.

It's the spiteful idiots, hellbent on dicking with other people that pull this shiat.

Why give them a term that makes it seem they're being in some manner closer to the source of their religions. Half these nitwits know less about the history of their advocated deities than I do, and I'm a farking atheist.

You want to show me a fundamentalist? Show me a guy that's spent his life studying the ethos and logos underlying his chosen philosophy. Not an idiot yelling in the goddamned street.

I welcome fundamentalists. Idiots can garrote themselves with their own unshorn flea infested pubes.

Protip to most "fundamentalists": being dirty morons with balls that smell like they've been stuffed up your asshole for weeks on end is the source of your unhappiness, not whatever the fark you're blaming today

Bonus protip : people you disagree with don't cause natural disasters. honestly, if gays could legitimately toss off hurricanes whenever they got bored, I'm sure someone would have spent a weekend gobbling knob and wiped you dumbshiats off the map
2012-10-16 02:49:18 PM  
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CapeFearCadaver: Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.

Which some of them would have killed themselves if their daughters acted like this little girl.
One good thing, that touched me when this first came about, was just how simply awesome and supportive Malala's father is.


+1

I teared up a little bit reading about how proud he was of her, two amazing and courageous people, truly.
2012-10-16 02:46:26 PM  
1 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.


Which some of them would have killed themselves if their daughters acted like this little girl.
One good thing, that touched me when this first came about, was just how simply awesome and supportive Malala's father is.
2012-10-16 02:44:39 PM  
1 votes:
2012-10-16 02:42:24 PM  
1 votes:
To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY



NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.
2012-10-16 02:38:19 PM  
1 votes:

Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.


Actually I think most are single. One big problems is these guys are unemployed and blame everybody for there problems. They find religion and then blown shait up or do the brave thing and try to murder little girls.

We have similar shait going on here except instead of religion its drugs.
2012-10-16 02:36:46 PM  
1 votes:
I hadn't even heard of this. Where the hell have a i been?

What pussies. Scared of a 14 year old girl. Your ideals are so farking fragile and primitive that a 14 year old kid is a threat to you and your infrastructure. Go eat a dick. No really, a big fat sloppy cock, because you're all stupid pussy faces.

/farkin twattle heads
2012-10-16 02:32:18 PM  
1 votes:

lordjupiter:
Oh yeah, the 300 or so people they murdered this year were just a warm up. This girl, *she* is a message.

They don't give a damn about attention. They give a damn about enforcing their will, as they see it as the will of God.

Read much?


Quite a bit more than you, apparently. The imaginary motivations you create in your head aren't news or literature.
2012-10-16 02:31:32 PM  
1 votes:

ultimabeam: I am Enzo, the baker!


Good for you! I was waiting for this reference.
2012-10-16 02:30:31 PM  
1 votes:

Rusty Shackleford: Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.


I thought Gurkhas liked a challenge?
2012-10-16 02:29:46 PM  
1 votes:
wait, now i know this may be the most brilliant idea ever, but why don't we just kill everyone sympathetic to the taliban, as well as any other fundamentalist muslims and we can nuke mecca just to be sure that the idea is understood?
2012-10-16 02:29:08 PM  
1 votes:
Security scared them off.

www.gonemovies.com
2012-10-16 02:28:21 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests


No, they're not. They're elected to Congress and given committee positions.

Human progress from this century onward will depend on our willingness to take one step before all others: we have to stop pretending that sky-fairy-worship is somehow "harmless" or "silly."
2012-10-16 02:26:24 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Pure speculation.


What pure speculation may look like...

gawker.com

/ Does actual lynching photography gets you a time out?
2012-10-16 02:22:05 PM  
1 votes:

Big_Fat_Liar: The real problem is the old testament. Fortunately, all but like 5 Christians ignore it in its entirety. The Islams need to get themselves a new testament thing going. Maybe a little less Jesusy.


What those 5 christian may look like.

cdn.crooksandliars.com 

/ hahaha but yea, you're wrong, lots of christians continue to cling to old testament bullshiat. Especially the "kill the gheys" parts
2012-10-16 02:17:29 PM  
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Callous: Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.

Yes, because that's just going so well for everyone.


It's actually going about as well as could be expected, as long as you aren't one of those folks who pee thier pants because the Mulsim Brotherhood party has the word "muslim " in it. Which actually brings me to a question I have for all the former GWB supporters who told us that the war in Iraq was worth the trillion we spent on it and the 4,000 lives we lost in it, because "it was going to spread democracy to the middle east": Who did you THINK was going to be popularly elected in majority-muslim countrys where secularism is intimately associated with brutal dictators?
2012-10-16 02:17:11 PM  
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ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because we went through this huge, painful philosophical shift called The Enlightenment that allowed us to have a secular society that's not tied to religious orthodoxy.

They haven't.

For all the sturm und drang that invariably follows this topic, that's pretty much it. Until a society reaches the point where it accepts certain fundamental tenets, such as the freedom of belief, stuff like this will happen.
2012-10-16 02:16:23 PM  
1 votes:
ModernPrimitive01Would all like a word with you

Um...McVeigh was an anti-government militant. Koresh wasn't a fundamentalist; he believed he WAS Jesus (that's more delusionist), and Ted Kaczynski was an anti-society nutjob who had no religion.

Three times failed, Sparky.
2012-10-16 02:15:56 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY




Would all like a word with you


Oh good. While thousands of Islamic extremists murder people daily someone always, ALWAYS, trots out the same 3-6 crazies that weren't Islamic in an attempt to make some ridiculous argument that we have a crap load of homegrown terrorists that aren't Islamic.

This game is old. You lost long ago. Now you just look retarded.
2012-10-16 02:12:40 PM  
1 votes:

Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.


Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.
2012-10-16 02:10:57 PM  
1 votes:

lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it


I am really worried about a fundie jainist.

A fundamental athiest just has a strong belief in no God.

Fundies aren't always a problem depending on the topic/belief system. I think the word you are looking for is extremist or militiant.
2012-10-16 02:09:13 PM  
1 votes:

WizardofToast: It's great to know that both the western media is acknowledging this happening and that people in the Middle East are rallying in support for her. But the Taliban are going to be pissed that people are calling them out instead of kneeling to them. They're probably going to do more crap to get them to submit.


When people are tired of X shiat, no amount of 'kneel you bastards!' will keep people down.
2012-10-16 02:08:23 PM  
1 votes:
Death to the Taliban. They are little better than excrement covered shoes.
2012-10-16 02:08:03 PM  
1 votes:

Magnanimous_J: Mentalpatient87: No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.

The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Hate is hate, and if your religion gives you an excuse to inflict that hate on others AND you don't have to suffer consequences for it...


This is true, the fundie morons here who resort to violence usually get caught and either martyr themselves or end up in jail. Over there half the corrupt governments support them and let them hide in plain sight. I have great faith that the Christian fundies here would resort to more violence if they could get away with it.
2012-10-16 02:05:34 PM  
1 votes:

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it
2012-10-16 02:05:07 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because they're powerful enough to stabilize the region. Once things are stable then commerce can flourish, water gets treated, electricity works, shiat doesn't blow the fark up all the time.

Problem is, you gotta put up with the crazy stuff too.

Hussein was like this, Iraq was stable for years under him. There was a stable economy, colleges and universities, museums, art and every now and then he'd gas the Kurds.
2012-10-16 02:04:02 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because OWS and the Tea Partiers won't storm a school bus and shoot a child in the head. It's one thing to openly and vocally oppose someone with a ridiculous sign or tea bags hanging from his hat. It's another when the person thinks that God has lots of rewards for him in heaven if he car bombs your whole family into oblivion.
2012-10-16 02:02:20 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

Would all like a word with you


In your world, I'm guessing that 0.0001% and 10% mean the same thing, right?
2012-10-16 02:01:00 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long


Why not? They don't need a lot of support, they just need a lot of people not willing to gun down another human, even if he does deserve it.
2012-10-16 01:59:44 PM  
1 votes:

liam76: Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?


that's the unabomber, I won't even try to spell his name. I don;t recall any religious connection to him. He was a neo-Luddite.
2012-10-16 01:58:12 PM  
1 votes:
Finishing the job sounds like an idea... 

i48.tinypic.com
2012-10-16 01:57:51 PM  
1 votes:
Muslims, man. Religion of peace.
2012-10-16 01:57:46 PM  
1 votes:

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

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Would all like a word with you


McVeigh was more anti Fed than christian fundie.
Koresh, yes a fundie, but he ended up being responsible for killing his own cult.
Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?
2012-10-16 01:57:37 PM  
1 votes:

blatz514: Is it just me, or is that hospital going to get bombed?


If I were there, I'd be asking for a transfer about now.
2012-10-16 01:56:51 PM  
1 votes:
Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?
2012-10-16 01:53:08 PM  
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lordjupiter: Time to dial up some more drone strikes, Talibastards.


Maybe we can turn the new glass parking lots into solar parks.
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-10-16 01:51:40 PM  
1 votes:
Or two of her fans lied to get in to see her.
 
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