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(Time)   Remember that teenage Pakistani girl that was shot by the Taliban? Looks like a few of them may have tried to pay her a visit at the UK hospital she's in   (world.time.com ) divider line
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2012-10-16 01:15:56 PM  
Farking fundamentalists
 
2012-10-16 01:29:09 PM  
:(
 
2012-10-16 01:49:40 PM  
Goddammitsomuch
 
2012-10-16 01:49:58 PM  
Time to dial up some more drone strikes, Talibastards.
 
2012-10-16 01:50:27 PM  
I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.
 
2012-10-16 01:51:28 PM  
It's just a little misunderstanding. I'm sure we can clear this all up with a rational conversation over a beer.
 
2012-10-16 01:51:37 PM  
I am Enzo, the baker!
 
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2012-10-16 01:51:40 PM  
Or two of her fans lied to get in to see her.
 
2012-10-16 01:51:45 PM  
Oh good, they were "questioned". That'll teach 'em not to screw around with us.

Where's a violent soccer hooligan when you need one?
 
2012-10-16 01:51:53 PM  

Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists


FTFY
 
2012-10-16 01:52:38 PM  
this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)
 
2012-10-16 01:52:42 PM  

Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.


Arab Spring? Take a look at what's happening in Africa and the Middle East. It's spring if you're a Muslim fundamentalist. It's winter for everyone else.
 
2012-10-16 01:53:08 PM  

lordjupiter: Time to dial up some more drone strikes, Talibastards.


Maybe we can turn the new glass parking lots into solar parks.
 
2012-10-16 01:53:12 PM  
Is it just me, or is that hospital going to get bombed?
 
2012-10-16 01:53:30 PM  
This amply demonstrates the fear that these groups have of an educated female populace.
 
2012-10-16 01:53:50 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.
 
2012-10-16 01:53:57 PM  
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The Doctor will see you now.
 
2012-10-16 01:54:45 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


No, all of them. Fu*k them all.
 
2012-10-16 01:55:00 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


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2012-10-16 01:55:59 PM  
The sad thing about this is that as soon as something happens to Kim Kardashian or Lilo dies or Madonna gets into a disfiguring car wreck, this girl is going to get absolutely no attention from the hoards of Facebook crusaders that are all atwitter about this event.

Remember this one?

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Vaguely, maybe. Yeah didn't Saddam kill her or sumpin?

Wait what!

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All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.
 
2012-10-16 01:56:04 PM  
To bring her flowers and chocolate?
/DRTFA
 
2012-10-16 01:56:24 PM  

jjorsett: Oh good, they were "questioned". That'll teach 'em not to screw around with us.

Where's a violent soccer hooligan when you need one?


To be fair, this was in the UK. Here in America, we would have either killed them or sent them to Gitmo for life. We're trigger-happy bad-ass like that.
 
2012-10-16 01:56:33 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


the reason they don't have power here is because we have a stable and powerful police force and rule of law. without this stability, the crazies are usually the ones in power because they're the most likely to use force.

people don't end up supporting them so much as they realize that the crazies have dominated the area, and that you have to do what you're told because they have guns and will kill your children for looking at them the wrong way.
 
2012-10-16 01:56:48 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


These are religious crazies who shoot people, throw grenades, poison wells, and suicide-bomb markets.
Our religious crazies shout and wave signs.

Which group would you be the most wary of?
 
2012-10-16 01:56:51 PM  
Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?
 
2012-10-16 01:57:08 PM  
Are these the same people who are outraged by the existence of freedom of speech for showing disregard for public order?
 
2012-10-16 01:57:37 PM  

blatz514: Is it just me, or is that hospital going to get bombed?


If I were there, I'd be asking for a transfer about now.
 
2012-10-16 01:57:46 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

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McVeigh was more anti Fed than christian fundie.
Koresh, yes a fundie, but he ended up being responsible for killing his own cult.
Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?
 
2012-10-16 01:57:51 PM  
Muslims, man. Religion of peace.
 
2012-10-16 01:58:06 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

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One out of three ain't bad.
 
2012-10-16 01:58:12 PM  
Finishing the job sounds like an idea... 

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2012-10-16 01:58:37 PM  
I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!
 
2012-10-16 01:58:41 PM  
Seems to me a couple of public news announcements stating "Malala has been moved to such and such hospital in this nearly abandoned wing..." along with a few SAS guys, you know, just hanging out at said hospital might solve quite a few problems.

Kind of like sending "You've won SUPERBOWL tickets!" to wanted felons and arresting them when they inevitably show up to pick them up....
 
2012-10-16 01:59:10 PM  

ultimabeam: I am Enzo, the baker!


golfclap

/just watched that this weekend
 
2012-10-16 01:59:19 PM  

Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.


Yes, because that's just going so well for everyone.
 
2012-10-16 01:59:29 PM  

Mentalpatient87: No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.


The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Hate is hate, and if your religion gives you an excuse to inflict that hate on others AND you don't have to suffer consequences for it...
 
2012-10-16 01:59:34 PM  
RELIGION OF PEACE!!
 
2012-10-16 01:59:37 PM  
But the shooting was Justified
 
2012-10-16 01:59:40 PM  
Sure, but if we killed every member of the Taliban, raped their women, sowed salt in their fields and ground their children up into a fine paste, suddenly WE'D be the bad guys...

Go figure...
 
2012-10-16 01:59:44 PM  

liam76: Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?


that's the unabomber, I won't even try to spell his name. I don;t recall any religious connection to him. He was a neo-Luddite.
 
2012-10-16 02:00:30 PM  
She's an MI-6 lackey and this was probably a plant.

Minds are controlled...
 
2012-10-16 02:00:42 PM  

fawlty: Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?


She was actively trying to escape the shiathole by getting an education.
 
2012-10-16 02:00:43 PM  

Rent Party: Remember this one


Not snarking but I don't recall her.
 
2012-10-16 02:01:00 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long


Why not? They don't need a lot of support, they just need a lot of people not willing to gun down another human, even if he does deserve it.
 
2012-10-16 02:01:57 PM  
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2012-10-16 02:01:59 PM  

fawlty: liam76: Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?

that's the unabomber, I won't even try to spell his name. I don;t recall any religious connection to him. He was a neo-Luddite.


DOH!
 
2012-10-16 02:02:20 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

Would all like a word with you


In your world, I'm guessing that 0.0001% and 10% mean the same thing, right?
 
2012-10-16 02:02:36 PM  

liam76: Rent Party: Remember this one

Not snarking but I don't recall her.


Neda Agha-Sultan, from Iran. She was killed in the almost-revolution in Tehran.
 
2012-10-16 02:02:52 PM  
 
2012-10-16 02:02:53 PM  

cgraves67: blatz514: Is it just me, or is that hospital going to get bombed?

If I were there, I'd be asking for a transfer to the United States about now.

 
2012-10-16 02:02:58 PM  

masercot: Sure, but if we killed every member of the Taliban, raped their women, sowed salt in their fields and ground their children up into a fine paste, suddenly WE'D be the bad guys...

Go figure...


No, it's be us, and we're good. Can't you see the difference?
 
2012-10-16 02:03:02 PM  

Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!


This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.
 
2012-10-16 02:03:21 PM  

liam76: Rent Party: Remember this one

Not snarking but I don't recall her.


She was shot and killed by Iranian forces in the 2009 Iranian student protests that got everyone all abuzz about FREEDOMZ!!!!

Right up until Mike Jackson croaked himself.
 
2012-10-16 02:03:35 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

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Hate to break this to you, but you're making the other "team's" argument. You could have learned that in five minutes on wikipedia.
 
2012-10-16 02:04:02 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because OWS and the Tea Partiers won't storm a school bus and shoot a child in the head. It's one thing to openly and vocally oppose someone with a ridiculous sign or tea bags hanging from his hat. It's another when the person thinks that God has lots of rewards for him in heaven if he car bombs your whole family into oblivion.
 
2012-10-16 02:04:17 PM  
These guys who were pissed about her support for Obama, they should be paying more attention to Madonna. Then they'd know he's one of them and that all of his liberal causes are just ploys to gain public support until he institutes the ultimate totalitarian Muslim state in the USA - United State of Allah.
 
2012-10-16 02:04:36 PM  
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At least it's an ethos.
 
2012-10-16 02:04:41 PM  

give me doughnuts: liam76: Rent Party: Remember this one

Not snarking but I don't recall her.

Neda Agha-Sultan, from Iran. She was killed in the almost-revolution in Tehran.


I was trying to think of someon famous from Iraq who was killed around MJ death...
 
2012-10-16 02:05:07 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because they're powerful enough to stabilize the region. Once things are stable then commerce can flourish, water gets treated, electricity works, shiat doesn't blow the fark up all the time.

Problem is, you gotta put up with the crazy stuff too.

Hussein was like this, Iraq was stable for years under him. There was a stable economy, colleges and universities, museums, art and every now and then he'd gas the Kurds.
 
2012-10-16 02:05:34 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it
 
2012-10-16 02:06:28 PM  
It's a sad thing when a fourteen year old girl is viewed as such a threat.
 
2012-10-16 02:07:02 PM  
See, this is why I don't trust Mitt Romney. He SAYS he's "severely conservative" yet he's unwilling to kill a girl who wants an education in her hospital bed.
 
2012-10-16 02:07:05 PM  
It's great to know that both the western media is acknowledging this happening and that people in the Middle East are rallying in support for her. But the Taliban are going to be pissed that people are calling them out instead of kneeling to them. They're probably going to do more crap to get them to submit.

Keep on fighting, Malala. And keep on fighting, citizens of Pakistan.
 
2012-10-16 02:08:03 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Mentalpatient87: No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.

The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Hate is hate, and if your religion gives you an excuse to inflict that hate on others AND you don't have to suffer consequences for it...


This is true, the fundie morons here who resort to violence usually get caught and either martyr themselves or end up in jail. Over there half the corrupt governments support them and let them hide in plain sight. I have great faith that the Christian fundies here would resort to more violence if they could get away with it.
 
2012-10-16 02:08:23 PM  
Death to the Taliban. They are little better than excrement covered shoes.
 
2012-10-16 02:08:58 PM  

FLMountainMan: ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

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Hate to break this to you, but you're making the other "team's" argument. You could have learned that in five minutes on wikipedia.


Jeez man, don't you know you're supposed to potato instead of facts when discussing terrorism with liberals?
 
2012-10-16 02:09:13 PM  

WizardofToast: It's great to know that both the western media is acknowledging this happening and that people in the Middle East are rallying in support for her. But the Taliban are going to be pissed that people are calling them out instead of kneeling to them. They're probably going to do more crap to get them to submit.


When people are tired of X shiat, no amount of 'kneel you bastards!' will keep people down.
 
2012-10-16 02:09:56 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day
 
2012-10-16 02:10:03 PM  
The Taliban are monsters. They need to be driven extinct.
 
2012-10-16 02:10:36 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


What makes you think christian* fundies are any better? They're human shiat. All of them. Every last one.

i.telegraph.co.uk

*or buddhists, hindus, jews, etc, etc until we all blow up

/yeah, the pic is hotlinked
 
2012-10-16 02:10:45 PM  

Mentalpatient87: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.


That is indeed a subtle distinction.
 
2012-10-16 02:10:52 PM  
And we want to bring democracy to these folks?
 
2012-10-16 02:10:57 PM  

lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it


I am really worried about a fundie jainist.

A fundamental athiest just has a strong belief in no God.

Fundies aren't always a problem depending on the topic/belief system. I think the word you are looking for is extremist or militiant.
 
2012-10-16 02:10:57 PM  

Barfmaker: ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)

Because they're powerful enough to stabilize the region. Once things are stable then commerce can flourish, water gets treated, electricity works, shiat doesn't blow the fark up all the time.

Problem is, you gotta put up with the crazy stuff too.

Hussein was like this, Iraq was stable for years under him. There was a stable economy, colleges and universities, museums, art and every now and then he'd gas the Kurds.


He was just crazy enough to keep everyone occupied with wondering what he was going to do next. That kept the whole region somewhat more stable for decades

lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it


Looking at the last 50 years, which of these has the highest body count, in the most countries? And yes, members of other sects of your faith do count.
 
2012-10-16 02:11:09 PM  

YouFarkingIdiot: ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

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In your world, I'm guessing that 0.0001% and 10% mean the same thing, right?


To the people who get killed by either of those groups of assholes. ....YES!
 
2012-10-16 02:11:21 PM  

Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.


There have been massive rallies allover the Arab world and particularly in Pakistan and Afghanistan in support of this girl, and it was the Hyper-conservative UAE government that got her out of Pakistan and is paying for her stay in London, so, yeah, PR-wise I'd say the Taliban farked up right and proper on this one. That's why they are trying to finish this girl off, because if they can't loved right now they at least want to be feared, which is hard to do when a fourteen-year old girl isn't afraid to give you the finger
 
2012-10-16 02:12:27 PM  

desertgeek: Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!

This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.



You guys sound kinda, I don't know the exact word for it, excessively enthusiastic or something...
 
2012-10-16 02:12:40 PM  

Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.


Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.
 
2012-10-16 02:12:45 PM  

desertgeek: Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!

This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.


What are you? Some kind of Atheistic Fundie????
 
2012-10-16 02:13:23 PM  
Filthy rutting animals. She's with the grownups now, middle easterners. Go back to your huts and fark your daughters.
 
2012-10-16 02:14:49 PM  

YouFarkingIdiot: beer


Good luck with that; Sharia law prohibits alcohol.
 
2012-10-16 02:15:53 PM  
Aw what the hell? I quoted your whole statement.
 
2012-10-16 02:15:56 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

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Oh good. While thousands of Islamic extremists murder people daily someone always, ALWAYS, trots out the same 3-6 crazies that weren't Islamic in an attempt to make some ridiculous argument that we have a crap load of homegrown terrorists that aren't Islamic.

This game is old. You lost long ago. Now you just look retarded.
 
2012-10-16 02:16:12 PM  
I really just hate everyone at this point.
 
2012-10-16 02:16:23 PM  
ModernPrimitive01Would all like a word with you

Um...McVeigh was an anti-government militant. Koresh wasn't a fundamentalist; he believed he WAS Jesus (that's more delusionist), and Ted Kaczynski was an anti-society nutjob who had no religion.

Three times failed, Sparky.
 
2012-10-16 02:16:36 PM  

Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.


Take a look around. Muslims in general appear concerned with an obscure movie that the attempted murder of a 14 year old girl.
 
2012-10-16 02:17:03 PM  

lordjupiter: Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.


And that would send a message. The same message that we sent when Bin Laden was killed. That we have a long memory and you cannot escape us.
 
2012-10-16 02:17:11 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because we went through this huge, painful philosophical shift called The Enlightenment that allowed us to have a secular society that's not tied to religious orthodoxy.

They haven't.

For all the sturm und drang that invariably follows this topic, that's pretty much it. Until a society reaches the point where it accepts certain fundamental tenets, such as the freedom of belief, stuff like this will happen.
 
2012-10-16 02:17:15 PM  

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McVeigh was more anti Fed than christian fundie.
Koresh, yes a fundie, but he ended up being responsible for killing his own cult.
Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?


The bottom guy is the Unabomber, Ted Kaczynski, but yes, basically just crazy.
 
2012-10-16 02:17:27 PM  

pute kisses like a man: ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)

the reason they don't have power here is because we have a stable and powerful police force and rule of law. without this stability, the crazies are usually the ones in power because they're the most likely to use force.

people don't end up supporting them so much as they realize that the crazies have dominated the area, and that you have to do what you're told because they have guns and will kill your children for looking at them the wrong way.


This. The fundies would stage another American revolution in a heartbeat, if they thought there was any chance of success.
 
2012-10-16 02:17:29 PM  

Callous: Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.

Yes, because that's just going so well for everyone.


It's actually going about as well as could be expected, as long as you aren't one of those folks who pee thier pants because the Mulsim Brotherhood party has the word "muslim " in it. Which actually brings me to a question I have for all the former GWB supporters who told us that the war in Iraq was worth the trillion we spent on it and the 4,000 lives we lost in it, because "it was going to spread democracy to the middle east": Who did you THINK was going to be popularly elected in majority-muslim countrys where secularism is intimately associated with brutal dictators?
 
2012-10-16 02:18:17 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

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Uh, yeah... what do these men have in common?
 
2012-10-16 02:18:38 PM  

carrion_luggage: See, this is why I don't trust Mitt Romney. He SAYS he's "severely conservative" yet he's unwilling to kill a girl who wants an education in her hospital bed.


I think he means conservative interpretation of the constitutiuon vs. a liberal one. I hope he means....

The real problem is the old testament. Fortunately, all but like 5 Christians ignore it in its entirety. The Islams need to get themselves a new testament thing going. Maybe a little less Jesusy.
 
2012-10-16 02:18:50 PM  

desertgeek: Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!

This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.


Hmm. I can't tell if you two are being deliberately ironic or not.
 
2012-10-16 02:19:07 PM  

liam76: lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it

I am really worried about a fundie jainist.

A fundamental athiest just has a strong belief in no God.

Fundies aren't always a problem depending on the topic/belief system. I think the word you are looking for is extremist or militiant.


I believe you're right Extremist is probably a better word in this context.


/stands corrected
// sometimes better words for the thought come with reflection or a good editor :)
/
 
2012-10-16 02:19:46 PM  

lordjupiter: Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.

Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.


They want her dead. These clowns murder people every day. They don't care about a message. They believe they are enforcing God's will. The only reason this *got* attention was the whole "oppressed schoolgirl wants an education" angle. They have, just this year, killed multiple police officers, a singer, a Red Cross worker, and the international response to all of that was a collective "meh."

This little kid is screwed as soon as the collective ADD takes over.
 
2012-10-16 02:19:50 PM  
The Taliban argument has been "why is there no protest for the kids killed in drone strikes?"

Sounds a lot like the responses on the fark politics tab.
Your candidate was caught lying with pants down around his ankles in a boys little league locker room.
//Well your candidate raised taxes on job creators.
 
2012-10-16 02:20:12 PM  
desertgeek All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.

So...slaughter those who slaughter in the name of religion.

Well that's just all kinds of logical.
 
2012-10-16 02:20:35 PM  
They should be easy enough to pick off, then.
 
2012-10-16 02:21:04 PM  
She was a pervert and a heretic who was going against sharia law and was highly indecent.

She had to be shot in the name of freedom.
 
2012-10-16 02:21:30 PM  
I know the hospital where she's being treated and believe me the Taliban is the least of her worries.

/lost my mom in that hospital due to incompetence.
 
2012-10-16 02:22:05 PM  

Big_Fat_Liar: The real problem is the old testament. Fortunately, all but like 5 Christians ignore it in its entirety. The Islams need to get themselves a new testament thing going. Maybe a little less Jesusy.


What those 5 christian may look like.

cdn.crooksandliars.com 

/ hahaha but yea, you're wrong, lots of christians continue to cling to old testament bullshiat. Especially the "kill the gheys" parts
 
2012-10-16 02:22:15 PM  
Callous Because OWS and the Tea Partiers won't storm a school bus and shoot a child in the head. It's one thing to openly and vocally oppose someone with a ridiculous sign or tea bags hanging from his hat. It's another when the person thinks that God has lots of rewards for him in heaven if he car bombs your whole family into oblivion.

This times infinity.
 
2012-10-16 02:22:31 PM  

Some 'Splainin' To Do: Hmm. I can't tell if you two are being deliberately ironic or not.


He's being an atheist.
 
2012-10-16 02:22:36 PM  
Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.
 
2012-10-16 02:23:00 PM  

fawlty: liam76: Is the bottom guy Manson? Isn't he more just straight crazy then a "fundamentalist"?

that's the unabomber, I won't even try to spell his name. I don;t recall any religious connection to him. He was a neo-Luddite.


I've got no problem with Luddites, it's the neo ones that are a scourge to the matrix.

Or something....
 
2012-10-16 02:24:00 PM  

Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.


Pure speculation.
 
2012-10-16 02:24:26 PM  
Life is a gift. In a 100 years there will be a completely different set of people on this planet.

/poor girl
 
2012-10-16 02:24:46 PM  

JackieRabbit: Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.


That up there. It's gawdamn sickening the opportunity we pissed away chasing snipes in Baghdad.
 
2012-10-16 02:24:53 PM  

Rent Party: lordjupiter: Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.

Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.

They want her dead. These clowns murder people every day. They don't care about a message. They believe they are enforcing God's will. The only reason this *got* attention was the whole "oppressed schoolgirl wants an education" angle. They have, just this year, killed multiple police officers, a singer, a Red Cross worker, and the international response to all of that was a collective "meh."

This little kid is screwed as soon as the collective ADD takes over.


Cops, famous people and relief workers aren't the same as a 14 year old girl speaking up as an activist. That's going to get more attention.

Yes, the news cycle will bury this at some point. I don't think the Taliban will "wait" for that, though. The more attention they can get for their flexing of muscle the better.
 
2012-10-16 02:24:54 PM  

puppetmaster745: Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Pure speculation.


Stand your ground.
 
2012-10-16 02:25:08 PM  
Aren't teenage(d) Pakistani girls people? Shouldn't the head line read "...who was shot..."? I thought "that" referred to dogs and things and we use when talking about people.
 
2012-10-16 02:25:14 PM  

Fizpez: Seems to me a couple of public news announcements stating "Malala has been moved to such and such hospital in this nearly abandoned wing..." along with a few SAS guys, you know, just hanging out at said hospital might solve quite a few problems.

Kind of like sending "You've won SUPERBOWL tickets!" to wanted felons and arresting them when they inevitably show up to pick them up....


I'm hoping that was plan A all along.
 
2012-10-16 02:25:52 PM  
Barfmaker Hussein was like this, Iraq was stable for years under him. There was a stable economy, colleges and universities, museums, art and every now and then he'd gas the Kurds.

He killed 150,000 Iraqi citizens a year. But we should have left him alone because he kept the lights on?

/Germany was pretty stable in 1939
//Godwin's rule does not apply...apt comparison.
 
2012-10-16 02:26:24 PM  

puppetmaster745: Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Pure speculation.


What pure speculation may look like...

gawker.com

/ Does actual lynching photography gets you a time out?
 
2012-10-16 02:26:34 PM  

3.bp.blogspot.com



Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.
 
2012-10-16 02:27:42 PM  
shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.
 
2012-10-16 02:27:55 PM  
Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!
 
2012-10-16 02:28:15 PM  

lordjupiter: Rent Party: lordjupiter: Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.

Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.

They want her dead. These clowns murder people every day. They don't care about a message. They believe they are enforcing God's will. The only reason this *got* attention was the whole "oppressed schoolgirl wants an education" angle. They have, just this year, killed multiple police officers, a singer, a Red Cross worker, and the international response to all of that was a collective "meh."

This little kid is screwed as soon as the collective ADD takes over.

Cops, famous people and relief workers aren't the same as a 14 year old girl speaking up as an activist. That's going to get more attention.

Yes, the news cycle will bury this at some point. I don't think the Taliban will "wait" for that, though. The more attention they can get for their flexing of muscle the better.


Oh yeah, the 300 or so people they murdered this year were just a warm up. This girl, *she* is a message.

They don't give a damn about attention. They give a damn about enforcing their will, as they see it as the will of God.
 
2012-10-16 02:28:21 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests


No, they're not. They're elected to Congress and given committee positions.

Human progress from this century onward will depend on our willingness to take one step before all others: we have to stop pretending that sky-fairy-worship is somehow "harmless" or "silly."
 
2012-10-16 02:28:33 PM  
It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.
 
2012-10-16 02:29:08 PM  

Security scared them off.

www.gonemovies.com

 
2012-10-16 02:29:46 PM  
wait, now i know this may be the most brilliant idea ever, but why don't we just kill everyone sympathetic to the taliban, as well as any other fundamentalist muslims and we can nuke mecca just to be sure that the idea is understood?
 
2012-10-16 02:29:48 PM  

Rent Party: lordjupiter: Rent Party: lordjupiter: Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.

Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.

They want her dead. These clowns murder people every day. They don't care about a message. They believe they are enforcing God's will. The only reason this *got* attention was the whole "oppressed schoolgirl wants an education" angle. They have, just this year, killed multiple police officers, a singer, a Red Cross worker, and the international response to all of that was a collective "meh."

This little kid is screwed as soon as the collective ADD takes over.

Cops, famous people and relief workers aren't the same as a 14 year old girl speaking up as an activist. That's going to get more attention.

Yes, the news cycle will bury this at some point. I don't think the Taliban will "wait" for that, though. The more attention they can get for their flexing of muscle the better.

Oh yeah, the 300 or so people they murdered this year were just a warm up. This girl, *she* is a message.

They don't give a damn about attention. They give a damn about enforcing their will, as they see it as the will of God.


Read much?
 
2012-10-16 02:30:31 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.


I thought Gurkhas liked a challenge?
 
2012-10-16 02:31:23 PM  

G-Rot: Barfmaker Hussein was like this, Iraq was stable for years under him. There was a stable economy, colleges and universities, museums, art and every now and then he'd gas the Kurds.

He killed 150,000 Iraqi citizens a year. But we should have left him alone because he kept the lights on?


[citationneeded.jpg]
 
2012-10-16 02:31:32 PM  

ultimabeam: I am Enzo, the baker!


Good for you! I was waiting for this reference.
 
2012-10-16 02:32:18 PM  

lordjupiter:
Oh yeah, the 300 or so people they murdered this year were just a warm up. This girl, *she* is a message.

They don't give a damn about attention. They give a damn about enforcing their will, as they see it as the will of God.

Read much?


Quite a bit more than you, apparently. The imaginary motivations you create in your head aren't news or literature.
 
2012-10-16 02:32:42 PM  

lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it


Link

I'll be waiting for your list of the 3 or so abortion clinic bombings from the last 20 years.
 
2012-10-16 02:32:44 PM  

SomeoneDumb: Aren't teenage(d) Pakistani girls people? Shouldn't the head line read "...who was shot..."? I thought "that" referred to dogs and things and we use when talking about people.


Grammar is no longer important. Someone's going to call you a Nazi because you were taught how to use pronouns. Damned educational system. Women should be protected from it.
 
2012-10-16 02:32:57 PM  

fawlty: Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?


Is this the first you've heard about this or something? Some background

/was an EFF member, wrote to and called my congressmen, and more at 14, and I grew up semi-privileged
 
2012-10-16 02:33:49 PM  

FuzedBox: Aw what the hell? I quoted your whole statement.


You used a search to find the word on the page, didn't you? I've been burned by that myself.

And I'm guessing your joking about "good luck with that", I'm sure the post you attempted to quote was in jest.
 
2012-10-16 02:34:08 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.


HAHA! You mean the daughters they would honor kill for going to school? They're cheering this. They're not shocked by it.
 
2012-10-16 02:34:19 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

[encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com image 77x100]
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x254]
[wpcontent.answcdn.com image 220x164]
Would all like a word with you


Ted Kaczynski doesn't quite belong in that group. He's not a religious nut bag, AFAIK. I think he was more of an anti-corporatist, but most clearly an insane person.
 
2012-10-16 02:34:44 PM  
That's so shameful it actually elicited a head shake and a tsk-tsk from me.  I don't think I've ever actually tsk-tsked before.
 
2012-10-16 02:35:53 PM  

The Southern Dandy: HAHA! You mean the daughters they would honor kill for going to school? They're cheering this. They're not shocked by it.


I mean the ones who are in it just because they hate Western culture, not all Talibany-nutty
 
2012-10-16 02:36:19 PM  

Vegan Meat Popsicle: / hahaha but yea, you're wrong, lots of christians continue to cling to old testament bullshiat. Especially the "kill the gheys" parts


I really and truly believe that those guys are an elaborate performance art performance.
 
2012-10-16 02:36:29 PM  

brap: That's so shameful it actually elicited a head shake and a tsk-tsk from me.  I don't think I've ever actually tsk-tsked before.


You tsk-tsk'd a Taliban death squad???
 
2012-10-16 02:36:46 PM  
I hadn't even heard of this. Where the hell have a i been?

What pussies. Scared of a 14 year old girl. Your ideals are so farking fragile and primitive that a 14 year old kid is a threat to you and your infrastructure. Go eat a dick. No really, a big fat sloppy cock, because you're all stupid pussy faces.

/farkin twattle heads
 
2012-10-16 02:37:26 PM  

Rent Party: lordjupiter:
Oh yeah, the 300 or so people they murdered this year were just a warm up. This girl, *she* is a message.

They don't give a damn about attention. They give a damn about enforcing their will, as they see it as the will of God.

Read much?

Quite a bit more than you, apparently. The imaginary motivations you create in your head aren't news or literature.


dEeeeerP!

Pot, kettle, you.

Point being, I said they wouldn't wait, you said they would, then you contradicted yourself by saying they only cared about enforcing their will in the name of God, which means they don't care about waiting, either.

Not laboring the point anymore with someone who has "douchey" in his bio.
 
2012-10-16 02:38:16 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Mentalpatient87: No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.

The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.


And they did, in the post Civil War era when it was almost free-for-all to kill blacks for almost any reason they could think of.


Hate is hate, and if your religion gives you an excuse to inflict that hate on others AND you don't have to suffer consequences for it...


When the government allows it, it happens, just like in the deep South from 1870 through 1969-ish.
 
2012-10-16 02:38:19 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.


Actually I think most are single. One big problems is these guys are unemployed and blame everybody for there problems. They find religion and then blown shait up or do the brave thing and try to murder little girls.

We have similar shait going on here except instead of religion its drugs.
 
2012-10-16 02:38:46 PM  

G-Rot: desertgeek All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.

So...slaughter those who slaughter in the name of religion.

Well that's just all kinds of logical.


Yes, cause if we slaughter all the slaughters there will be no more slaughtering in the world!
 
2012-10-16 02:39:25 PM  
at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.
 
2012-10-16 02:39:38 PM  

JackieRabbit: SomeoneDumb: Aren't teenage(d) Pakistani girls people? Shouldn't the head line read "...who was shot..."? I thought "that" referred to dogs and things and we use

who when talking about people.

Grammar is no longer important. Someone's going to call you a Nazi because you were taught how to use pronouns. Damned educational system. Women should be protected from it.


In this case, it should be "Usage Nazi." I think the grammar's okay.

/notice I left out a who earlier, since corrected
 
2012-10-16 02:40:05 PM  

Broktun: But the shooting was Justified


Of course it was. I'm pretty sure if it weren't a legitimate shooting, the girl's body would have rejected the bullet. Isn't that how these things work?
 
2012-10-16 02:40:17 PM  

SomeoneDumb: Aren't teenage(d) Pakistani girls people? Shouldn't the head line read "...who was shot..."? I thought "that" referred to dogs and things and we use when talking about people.


That asked you?
 
2012-10-16 02:41:17 PM  

Uncle Tractor: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

What makes you think christian* fundies are any better? They're human shiat. All of them. Every last one.


Tyrosine: Brother_Mouzone:
Take a look around. Muslims in general appear concerned with an obscure movie that the attempted murder of a 14 year old girl.


Intolerance is intolerable.

/that is all
//You have yours; I have mine. So STFU
 
2012-10-16 02:42:24 PM  
To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY



NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.
 
2012-10-16 02:44:39 PM  
 
2012-10-16 02:45:13 PM  

G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.


sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-10-16 02:46:26 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.


Which some of them would have killed themselves if their daughters acted like this little girl.
One good thing, that touched me when this first came about, was just how simply awesome and supportive Malala's father is.
 
2012-10-16 02:47:28 PM  

JackieRabbit: Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.


Hey, bub. Plenty of military contractors got rich off that war, so don't try and tell us it's a complete waste...

\mission accomplished
 
2012-10-16 02:49:04 PM  

liam76: Egoy3k: Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians.

OK.


at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth. :

 
2012-10-16 02:49:18 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.

Which some of them would have killed themselves if their daughters acted like this little girl.
One good thing, that touched me when this first came about, was just how simply awesome and supportive Malala's father is.


+1

I teared up a little bit reading about how proud he was of her, two amazing and courageous people, truly.
 
2012-10-16 02:49:44 PM  

SomeoneDumb: JackieRabbit: SomeoneDumb: Aren't teenage(d) Pakistani girls people? Shouldn't the head line read "...who was shot..."? I thought "that" referred to dogs and things and we use who when talking about people.

Grammar is no longer important. Someone's going to call you a Nazi because you were taught how to use pronouns. Damned educational system. Women should be protected from it.

In this case, it should be "Usage Nazi." I think the grammar's okay.

/notice I left out a who earlier, since corrected


It's ok to be loose and use colloquialisms in casual conversation. No one should get too upset about grammar and usage. But this whole Grammar Nazi thing is used as a cover for the people who never were taught grammar. Misusing a pronoun is not a usage error; it is a grammar error. Usage errors are when someone uses a word that has a similar meaning as another, but in the wrong context-- right vs correct, for example.
 
2012-10-16 02:50:02 PM  

Rent Party: JackieRabbit: Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.

That up there. It's gawdamn sickening the opportunity we pissed away chasing snipes in Baghdad.


What do you have against snipes?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-10-16 02:50:58 PM  
On the case:
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-16 02:52:24 PM  

desertgeek: Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!

This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.


So people that think differently than you need to be killed. Now who does that sound like...hmmmm...
 
2012-10-16 02:53:49 PM  

liam76: lecas: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

re fixed to the original, because while in this case they are Islamic fundys are a plague on humanity no matter what their base religion, Islamic, Christian, Atheist , you name it

I am really worried about a fundie jainist.

A fundamental athiest just has a strong belief in no God.

Fundies aren't always a problem depending on the topic/belief system. I think the word you are looking for is extremist or militiant.


Who the fark decided to label these asshats as "fundamentalists" in the first place?

Their beliefs are rarely more "fundamental" than other peoples. Why can't we use a more appropriate term of "gullible emotion-driven spiteful idiots".

I've never had a problem with someone for merely espousing that they knew the secrets of the universe denied to the rest of humanity. I mean, welcome to all the religious people I know.

It's the spiteful idiots, hellbent on dicking with other people that pull this shiat.

Why give them a term that makes it seem they're being in some manner closer to the source of their religions. Half these nitwits know less about the history of their advocated deities than I do, and I'm a farking atheist.

You want to show me a fundamentalist? Show me a guy that's spent his life studying the ethos and logos underlying his chosen philosophy. Not an idiot yelling in the goddamned street.

I welcome fundamentalists. Idiots can garrote themselves with their own unshorn flea infested pubes.

Protip to most "fundamentalists": being dirty morons with balls that smell like they've been stuffed up your asshole for weeks on end is the source of your unhappiness, not whatever the fark you're blaming today

Bonus protip : people you disagree with don't cause natural disasters. honestly, if gays could legitimately toss off hurricanes whenever they got bored, I'm sure someone would have spent a weekend gobbling knob and wiped you dumbshiats off the map
 
2012-10-16 02:56:20 PM  
give me doughnuts:


Looking at the last 50 years, which of these has the highest body count, in the most countries? And yes, members of other sects of your faith do count.

Well, if you give another ten years, the Jews would nominate European Christians.
 
2012-10-16 02:56:30 PM  

Tat'dGreaser: brap: That's so shameful it actually elicited a head shake and a tsk-tsk from me.  I don't think I've ever actually tsk-tsked before.

You tsk-tsk'd a Taliban death squad???



I did.  If I were their mother I would pull them around by the ear until they apologized to everyone.
 
2012-10-16 02:57:09 PM  

Rent Party: All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.


There are 10000+ man demonstrations over the Taliban attacking her in Afghanistan, man. Where there's barely been a protest half that size even over the drone strikes killing civilians.

There's a reason this is sticking in the news and some of the other stuff hasn't, and that's because the US's opinion does not matter in the region. It's important because Afghanistan actually cares and is reacting against the Taliban finally. And, for the same reason, it's probably not going away, and it doesn't really matter whether US news stops talking about it at some point or not.
 
2012-10-16 02:57:12 PM  

Rent Party: puppetmaster745: Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Pure speculation.

What pure speculation may look like...

[gawker.com image 346x279]

/ Does actual lynching photography gets you a time out?


I don't know how the enforcement wing of the Democrat Party is relevant to this discussion.
 
2012-10-16 02:57:37 PM  
Were they driving a black '68 Charger with six hubcaps?
i.ytimg.com
 
2012-10-16 02:58:15 PM  

Jairzinho: G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.

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So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?
 
2012-10-16 02:58:32 PM  

WizardofToast: It's great to know that both the western media is acknowledging this happening and that people in the Middle East are rallying in support for her. But the Taliban are going to be pissed that people are calling them out instead of kneeling to them. They're probably going to do more crap to get them to submit.

Keep on fighting, Malala. And keep on fighting, citizens of Pakistan.


Unfortunately, the article I read yesterday talked about the majority of the Pakistani people supporting the idea "dat duh wimminz needin' to stay un-edjumacated." It's just that the Taliban's methods were a bit harsh in their opinion.

I guess the Taliban should have stuck to stoning those uppity biatches...

/Good luck, Malala. You've got more stones than the Fark Collective.
 
2012-10-16 02:59:18 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


Come on, all religions are like this. Didn't you see 'Contact'?
 
2012-10-16 03:00:08 PM  

brap: I did.  If I were their mother I would pull them around by the ear until they apologized to everyone.


I think we just solved the conflict in the Middle East people.
 
2012-10-16 03:00:13 PM  

MoeSzyslak: Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!


People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.
 
2012-10-16 03:00:30 PM  

SomeoneDumb: Aren't teenage(d) Pakistani girls people?"


Some folks don't think so...
 
2012-10-16 03:02:27 PM  

liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?


No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.
 
2012-10-16 03:02:48 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: Rent Party: JackieRabbit: Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.

That up there. It's gawdamn sickening the opportunity we pissed away chasing snipes in Baghdad.

What do you have against snipes?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 400x279]


And this is why you are blue 3. I thought the same when reading that but you inserted a pic. Well done.
 
2012-10-16 03:03:45 PM  

CheekyMonkey: JackieRabbit: Maybe they better introduce her to Salmon Rushdie, because this child is never going to be able to return to Pakistan.

The US is drawing down in Afghanistan. The Taliban is going to take over again. What a complete waste of American lives and hundreds of billions of dollars.

Hey, bub. Plenty of military contractors got rich off that war, so don't try and tell us it's a complete waste...

\mission accomplished


Well, yeah, there was that. And I guess we can be happy that we were spending all that money on the military. Otherwise the Great Recession would have been a lot worse for a lot of areas. But our grandchildren are going to pay for it in a very hard way. And people are still going to be murdered and oppressed in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
2012-10-16 03:05:10 PM  

kindms: MoeSzyslak: Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!

People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.


www.4x4earth.com.au
 
2012-10-16 03:05:11 PM  

fawlty: Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?


To the Taliban, that is the very definition of a radical activist. Education is the Taliban's worse enemy. Of couse they want to kill her.
 
2012-10-16 03:06:02 PM  

kindms: MoeSzyslak: Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!

People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.


Well both of you are incorrect.
First, Abortion clinic bombings and doctor murders are a bit more extreme than sign waving.

Second, The US doesn't wontonly kill innocent people. It is a tragedy for sure but it is not a policy goal of the US to kill civilians that don't agree with us.
 
2012-10-16 03:07:04 PM  

Egoy3k: liam76: Egoy3k: Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians.

OK.


at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth. :


I know how underline works as well.

Guy came into a thread about muslim nutbags, and not responding to anyone else went off abotu christians being worse.

LOTN: Who the fark decided to label these asshats as "fundamentalists" in the first place?


The name largely comes from christianity where "fundamentalism" was a return to a mroe biblical based faith. So technically every major school of Islamic thought is fundamentalist.


LOTN: Why give them a term that makes it seem they're being in some manner closer to the source of their religions. Half these nitwits know less about the history of their advocated deities than I do, and I'm a farking atheist.


I didn't "give" them that term, it was the one coined when they went back to the bible. Though I do appreciate the difference between looking at the teaching of JC vs the bible as being the "source".
 
2012-10-16 03:08:09 PM  

G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.


Ignoring the inappropriate ad hominem...you obviously don't live in the Bible Belt. The only thing different between Evangelical Christian fundies and the Taliban, is that they don't have major control over the local, state, and federal governments...yet.

Some of the things I've heard around here in Southern Indiana from Evanglical Christians are downright farking scary, and every year there's more and more of them saying it louder and louder.

- They want to kill teh gheys

- They want to murder people who are pro-choice (because we all
- They believe women with educations and jobs outside the home are an abomination (heard from a middle-aged woman at a beauty shop) (Yes, she was asked to leave the premises with shampoo still in her hair)

- They believe alcohol should be prohibited

- They believe people who work on Sundays should be killed

- They don't want the different races to intermarry/breed


So tell me again how they're different in their views?
 
2012-10-16 03:09:28 PM  

optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.


While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

upload.wikimedia.org
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.
 
2012-10-16 03:09:52 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...:
What do you have against snipes?

minorityfortune.com

 
2012-10-16 03:10:48 PM  

xtalman: Magnanimous_J: Mentalpatient87: No, actually any kind of fundamentalist is an asshole and worsens humanity. Some are just less murderous than others.

The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Hate is hate, and if your religion gives you an excuse to inflict that hate on others AND you don't have to suffer consequences for it...

This is true, the fundie morons here who resort to violence usually get caught and either martyr themselves or end up in jail. Over there half the corrupt governments support them and let them hide in plain sight. I have great faith that the Christian fundies here would resort to more violence if they could get away with it.


Nice. This the reason that we can't have a conversation in this country. The blind have been lead to believe that anyone who doesn't think like them are out to destroy them. Way to play right into the hands of the parties who want to control you.

It's just like prison. the populations are easier to control if you pit them against each other first.
 
2012-10-16 03:11:00 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: kindms: MoeSzyslak: Look another Christians are evil because the Taliban are savages thread on Fark. But but but an atheist blew up a building!! I'm so scared, fundies here are becoming the Taliban and they're going to oppress us all!!!! I have no problem shiatting on all over Christianity but if something negative about Islam comes up I must jump to Islam's defense by but but butting other religions! The Taliban may shoot children in the head for wanting an education but there are fundamental Christians in Kansas with signs, WITH SIGNS FOR FARKS SAKE!!

People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.

Well both of you are incorrect.
First, Abortion clinic bombings and doctor murders are a bit more extreme than sign waving.

Second, The US doesn't wontonly kill innocent people. It is a tragedy for sure but it is not a policy goal of the US to kill civilians that don't agree with us.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Hilarious. The US wontonly kills innocent people every farking day. You just don't care because they are labeled as "militants" regardless of the fact that Obama has declared anyone in a strike zone between the age of 15-35 is AUTOMATICALLY labeled a militant unless otherwise proven incorrect.

I Guess Madeline Albright stating that the deaths of 100000 + iraqi CHILDREN due to sanctions "Was Worth it"
 
2012-10-16 03:11:44 PM  

Jairzinho: G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.

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Head cancer?

i4.photobucket.com

Approves
 
2012-10-16 03:11:45 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


You didn't fix shiat. Islamic fundamentalists are just the offspring of Catholic Fundamentalists are just the offspring of Jewish Fundamentalists. Fundamentalism is a disease by itself, the religion it attaches itself to is irrelevant.
 
2012-10-16 03:11:59 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


You're right that the local people ultimately have to stand up to this. But it takes extreme bravery to do so -- basically these are like cartels in otherwise pretty much un-policed regions.

There are lots of cases in history where a minority with brutality can subjugate a larger population.

But there are some movements starting to grow -- anti-Taliban protests in Pakistan: http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/16/world/asia/pakistan-activist-reaction/in dex.html?hpt=hp_c1
 
2012-10-16 03:12:40 PM  

xtalman: Tat'dGreaser: It probably won't happen but it would be awesome if this causes thousands of Jihadists to quit because of this. I'm sure a lot of them have daughters.

Actually I think most are single. One big problems is these guys are unemployed and blame everybody for there problems. They find religion and then blown shait up or do the brave thing and try to murder little girls.

We have similar shait going on here except instead of religion its drugs.


Or the Tea Party.
 
2012-10-16 03:13:11 PM  

Egoy3k: To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.


Not true. By blaming "fundamentalists", the poster was lumping all religions in with the one responsible for this act. That was where the talk about Christians started. I'm not going all the way back up the thread, but wasn't that the Boobies?

/Or are you trolling?
 
2012-10-16 03:13:17 PM  

Man On Pink Corner: liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?

No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.


Yeah there is, it is "I don't believe in religion".

You can't use the nutball actiosn of one from a group to paint the rest.
 
2012-10-16 03:14:18 PM  

hagar129: And we want to bring democracy to these folks?


I don't. fark them. fark them and their caveman "culture".
 
2012-10-16 03:16:03 PM  
Yay religion!!!!!
 
2012-10-16 03:17:08 PM  

liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?


Becoming? Atheists went through their taliban phase in the 20th century. Their body count is the highest of any group.
 
2012-10-16 03:17:25 PM  

liam76: Man On Pink Corner: liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?

No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.

Yeah there is, it is "I don't believe in religion".

You can't use the nutball actiosn of one from a group to paint the rest.


What if what that person did was in the name of the group?
 
2012-10-16 03:19:54 PM  

hagar129: And we want to bring democracy to these folks?


The only way to un-fark a place like this is to build some sort of a stable working and middle class so people have something to lose.
 
2012-10-16 03:21:07 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

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Would all like a word with you


PROTIP: When trying to bash fundie violent Christians, use people that actually are fundie violent Christians. Such as Eric Rudolph. McVeigh was an anti-government atheist, Koresh, while evil, wasn't violent (killed his own cult and was batshiat insane, but didn't kill others) and the unabomber was a non-religious (agnostic or apatheist) shut in hermit.

cmb53208: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day


Congrats, you win the stupidest comment of the thread award. First off, this thread is about the Taliban. Second, until the leaders of the fundies (not isolated nutjobs, there are those in everygroup) start talking about killing off gays, Democrats and whatnot, then it is a really stupid comparison.
 
2012-10-16 03:21:40 PM  

Leeds: liam76: Man On Pink Corner: liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?

No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.

Yeah there is, it is "I don't believe in religion".

You can't use the nutball actiosn of one from a group to paint the rest.

What if what that person did was in the name of the group?


I could go to Ruby Tuesdays and shiat in the salad bar screaming I am doing it in the name of Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean you can paint christians based on that.

If the actiosn were done by someoen or a group they elect, then yes go right ahead. If the faith ro sect has a head that endorses actions, then yes blame them (looking at you catholics).

But you still cant take the words of a self avowed leader and try and paint people by that.
 
2012-10-16 03:21:41 PM  

puppetmaster745: Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Pure speculation deduction.

 
2012-10-16 03:22:21 PM  
bring her Ghurkas
 
2012-10-16 03:24:07 PM  

Poowaddins: G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.

Ignoring the inappropriate ad hominem...you obviously don't live in the Bible Belt. The only thing different between Evangelical Christian fundies and the Taliban, is that they don't have major control over the local, state, and federal governments...yet.

Some of the things I've heard around here in Southern Indiana from Evanglical Christians are downright farking scary, and every year there's more and more of them saying it louder and louder.

- They want to kill teh gheys

- They want to murder people who are pro-choice (because we all
- They believe women with educations and jobs outside the home are an abomination (heard from a middle-aged woman at a beauty shop) (Yes, she was asked to leave the premises with shampoo still in her hair)

- They believe alcohol should be prohibited

- They believe people who work on Sundays should be killed

- They don't want the different races to intermarry/breed


So tell me again how they're different in their views?


citation needed.jpg

One isolated nutjob does not make a group. That is like saying Pol Pot and his killing of non-atheists speaks for all atheists.
 
2012-10-16 03:25:57 PM  
Two likeliest suspects for the "relatives" at the hospital: Paparazzi (95 percent chance). Five percent chance it was these guys.
 
2012-10-16 03:26:40 PM  
These guys:

www.cbc.ca
 
2012-10-16 03:27:22 PM  

puppetmaster745: optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.

While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x322]
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.


Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.
 
2012-10-16 03:28:42 PM  
th05.deviantart.net

Seen lurking at hospital.
 
2012-10-16 03:30:07 PM  

lordjupiter: Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.


They have a right to be offended and pissed off, as does anyone for whatever reason. They didn't get violent and stabby over it, which is fantastic.
 
2012-10-16 03:32:33 PM  

Mikeyworld: So STFU


I'll do that when I'm dead. Meanwhile, you sound fundy.
 
2012-10-16 03:34:49 PM  

lordjupiter: puppetmaster745: optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.

While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x322]
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.

Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.


Same buttons, much different reactions. Besides a handful of Christian fanatics that have killed in the name of their religion, what problem do you have with the rest of them?
 
2012-10-16 03:37:54 PM  

puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.

Not true. By blaming "fundamentalists", the poster was lumping all religions in with the one responsible for this act. That was where the talk about Christians started. I'm not going all the way back up the thread, but wasn't that the Boobies?

/Or are you trolling?


No the poster was lumping all fundamentalists in with the ones responsible for this act.

farking fundamentalists - condemns fundamentalists
farking religious fundamentalists - condemns religious fundamentalists
farking religion - condemns religion
farking butthurt assholes who just love to think they are oppressed - condemns people like you
 
2012-10-16 03:38:58 PM  

liam76: Leeds: liam76: Man On Pink Corner: liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?

No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.

Yeah there is, it is "I don't believe in religion".

You can't use the nutball actiosn of one from a group to paint the rest.

What if what that person did was in the name of the group?

I could go to Ruby Tuesdays and shiat in the salad bar screaming I am doing it in the name of Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean you can paint christians based on that.

If the actiosn were done by someoen or a group they elect, then yes go right ahead. If the faith ro sect has a head that endorses actions, then yes blame them (looking at you catholics).

But you still cant take the words of a self avowed leader and try and paint people by that.


So according to your example-

When a run of the mill catholic tries to curtail our freedoms, it doesn't mean that religion is oppressive and evil. But when the Pope indicates that he dislikes freedoms, that would paint catholics as evil and repressive.

Does that sum up your hypothesis properly?
 
2012-10-16 03:39:47 PM  

machoprogrammer: lordjupiter: Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.

They have a right to be offended and pissed off, as does anyone for whatever reason. They didn't get violent and stabby over it, which is fantastic.



They can be pised off all they want, but it doesn't make them right or mean they have to be taken seriously. And again, it doesn't mean they're OK just because they're not "stabby".


Plus, Xtians have reacted violently to Piss Christ:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/10/02/piss-christ-art-and-violence/

On Palm Sunday in 2011, for instance, a group of radical young Christians stormed a gallery in Avignon, France, which was displaying Piss Christ as part of an exhibit. They made their way past security, threatened a guard with a hammer, broke through the Plexiglas protecting the image, and slashed it with a sharp object. In 1997 at the National Gallery of Victoria in Australia, the work was also vandalized, and gallery officials received death threats for showing it. In 2007, a group of neo-Nazis attacked a Serrano show in Sweden (though Piss Christ was not on display there).


So yeah, I call bullshiat.

There are a lot of incidents that pass through the news where Christian beliefs are part of some crime, or COULD be, and nothing is said about it. Because the reply is always the same: "not a real Christian" and "doesn't represent all Christians". So why are exceptions made and individuals the issue in one case, and dogma and culture in the other, when there's plenty there to implicate all of the above in both cases?
 
2012-10-16 03:40:29 PM  

puppetmaster745: lordjupiter: puppetmaster745: optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.

While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x322]
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.

Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.

Same buttons, much different reactions. Besides a handful of Christian fanatics that have killed in the name of their religion, what problem do you have with the rest of them?


Surely you don't believe that the measure of a group rests entirely on their body count? You do realize that there are other ways of being evil that come up short of killing scores of people, right?
 
2012-10-16 03:40:44 PM  
Rusty Shackleford: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 468x591]

Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.


Something unnerving about a little guy with a big knife and a grin...
 
2012-10-16 03:43:12 PM  

Egoy3k: puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.

Not true. By blaming "fundamentalists", the poster was lumping all religions in with the one responsible for this act. That was where the talk about Christians started. I'm not going all the way back up the thread, but wasn't that the Boobies?

/Or are you trolling?

No the poster was lumping all fundamentalists in with the ones responsible for this act.

farking fundamentalists - condemns fundamentalists
farking religious fundamentalists - condemns religious fundamentalists
farking religion - condemns religion
farking butthurt assholes who just love to think they are oppressed - condemns people like you



"Fundamentalists" in a thread about a Taliban attack - condemns religious fundamentalists
 
2012-10-16 03:45:06 PM  

machoprogrammer: First off, this thread is about the Taliban.


So farking what?

Second, until the leaders of the fundies (not isolated nutjobs, there are those in everygroup) start talking about killing off gays, Democrats and whatnot, then it is a really stupid comparison.

The only reason the leading US fundies don't openly advocate killing gays is because it's against the law. Meanwhile:

US Religious Right Presses Anti-gay Laws In Africa
More American Christian Groups Named As Fomenting Anti-Gay Hate In Africa
How Deep Is the Republican Christian Right's Connection to the Anti-Gay Bills Sweeping Sub-Saharan Africa?
US religious right presses anti-gay laws in Africa
US evangelical Christians accused of promoting homophobia in Africa 

So yeah, life under US fundies would be every bit as bad as it is under the taliban.

And just for laughs (NSFW audio):

EAT DA POO POO
 
2012-10-16 03:45:23 PM  
All Pakistani people are very peaceful and nice.

Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
 
2012-10-16 03:47:27 PM  

puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: puppetmaster745: Egoy3k: To all you morons making a big stink about the comments about christians in this thread I think you missed an important part of the dialog.

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


NOBODY is out to hand wave away the crimes of these particular islamic fundamentalists. The talk about christians and westerners who are crazy terrorists didn't begin until this troll wanted to make a point that only islamic fundamentalists were a problem. Most of us disagree with that point. Many people pointed out that fundamentalists (or extremists) of all stripes are a danger to civilized society. Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians. Get down off your crosses and try not to be stupid for one thread if possible.

Not true. By blaming "fundamentalists", the poster was lumping all religions in with the one responsible for this act. That was where the talk about Christians started. I'm not going all the way back up the thread, but wasn't that the Boobies?

/Or are you trolling?

No the poster was lumping all fundamentalists in with the ones responsible for this act.

farking fundamentalists - condemns fundamentalists
farking religious fundamentalists - condemns religious fundamentalists
farking religion - condemns religion
farking butthurt assholes who just love to think they are oppressed - condemns people like you


"Fundamentalists" in a thread about a Taliban attack - condemns religious fundamentalists


Even if that were true it still doesn't condemn all religion or all religious people by a damn long shot.
 
2012-10-16 03:49:31 PM  

liam76: Egoy3k: liam76: Egoy3k: Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians.

OK.


at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth. :

I know how underline works as well.

Guy came into a thread about muslim nutbags, and not responding to anyone else went off abotu christians being worse.

LOTN: Who the fark decided to label these asshats as "fundamentalists" in the first place?

The name largely comes from christianity where "fundamentalism" was a return to a mroe biblical based faith. So technically every major school of Islamic thought is fundamentalist.


LOTN: Why give them a term that makes it seem they're being in some manner closer to the source of their religions. Half these nitwits know less about the history of their advocated deities than I do, and I'm a farking atheist.

I didn't "give" them that term, it was the one coined when they went back to the bible. Though I do appreciate the difference between looking at the teaching of JC vs the bible as being the "source".


If it's not in a dead sea scroll, it's not worth reading.

/ LUNARS TIDES PROVE Council of Nicaea A HEATHEN CONSPIRACY
// SUBPRESSION OF THE Apocalypse of Peter IS A GOVERNMENT SPINJOB
/// BUY AT&T AT 34
 
2012-10-16 03:51:22 PM  

CheekyMonkey: Broktun: But the shooting was Justified

Of course it was. I'm pretty sure if it weren't a legitimate shooting, the girl's body would have rejected the bullet. Isn't that how these things work?


Exactly.
 
2012-10-16 03:52:21 PM  

Oldiron_79: Rusty Shackleford: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 468x591]

Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.

Something unnerving about a little guy with a big knife and a grin...



I don't remember much about the book Parallax Red, but I remember THAT part.
 
2012-10-16 03:52:58 PM  

puppetmaster745: lordjupiter: puppetmaster745: optimus_grime: at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.

While the Muslim world got all murdery and burny over a stupid video, this was on display in New York:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x322]
If you aren't familiar, this work is called "Piss Christ". Look it up.

If you didn't hear about the exhibit, it's probably because of that moral high ground Christians are clinging to.

Are you trying to claim "Piss Christ", which is at least 20 years old, was not controversial and caused no backlash?

Different religions, different buttons that can be pushed. Christian supremists/fanatics are not OK just because Islamic supremists/fanatics are worse.

Same buttons, much different reactions. Besides a handful of Christian fanatics that have killed in the name of their religion, what problem do you have with the rest of them?



I have no problem with religious people who don't bother other people.

I do have a problem with religious fanatics who bother other people, and especially those that think only the other guy does it. When that's proven wrong, it's only a "handful". When that's proven wrong, it's supposedly not as bad, and is used as a platform for bashing the other religion and deflecting responsibility for holding one's own faith and faithful to the same standards.

This is what's commonly called "bullshiat", or "special pleading".
 
2012-10-16 03:53:35 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


You know we have the separation of church and state? They don't. They have power and support because they have the authority of government. When our fundamentalists claim there is no separation between church of state, this is the road they are trying to take us down.
 
2012-10-16 03:56:14 PM  

I Like Shiny Things: All Pakistani people are very peaceful and nice.

Anyone who says otherwise is a racist.


Actually, the peaceful/nice ones are called "Indians."

imageshack.us
 
2012-10-16 03:56:53 PM  

YouFarkingIdiot: Brother_Mouzone: I think, and hope, that this event will be like that vendor in Tunisia who was killed and sparked the whole Arab Spring. God, the Taliban are morons.

Arab Spring? Take a look at what's happening in Africa and the Middle East. It's spring if you're a Muslim fundamentalist. It's winter for everyone else.


I sang those last two sentences in Zero Mostel's voice to that song from the Producers. Yeah, that song.
 
2012-10-16 04:05:45 PM  

Rusty Shackleford: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 468x591]

Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.


I think a single Gurkha would be plenty to do the job. Two would be considered a weapon of mass destruction.
 
2012-10-16 04:06:59 PM  

Rent Party: puppetmaster745: Magnanimous_J: The only reason our fundies aren't as murderous is because they don't have the government support that the Muslim ones do. If the average Freeper could get away with a casual lynching or bombing a few abortion clinics without ending up in prison, you bet your ass they would.

Pure speculation.

What pure speculation may look like...

[gawker.com image 346x279]

/ Does actual lynching photography gets you a time out?


Yes, because bad shiat that happened over 50 years ago is so relevent today.
 
2012-10-16 04:14:08 PM  

kindms: I Guess Madeline Albright stating that the deaths of 100000 + iraqi CHILDREN due to sanctions "Was Worth it"


Not that I'm a fan of Albright (I think she belongs in prison), but the sanctions didn't kill the Iraqi children, Saddam did. At first humanitarian supplies were allowed in (food, medicine, etc). Then it was discovered that ALL of those supplies were going to Saddam's military and NOTHING was going to the people in need so those supplies were discontinued. Would you continue to ship food and medicine directily to a mad man's military?
 
2012-10-16 04:14:35 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Main reason is lack of education. The religious zealots only allow the poor to get religious education.
 
2012-10-16 04:14:54 PM  
How does someone who does that not go home, look in the mirror, and realize they're a thousand times worse than giving a little girl an education. Somehow I doubt allah/god/yahweh/etc is going to approve of you SHOOTING A LITTLE GIRL.
 
2012-10-16 04:15:35 PM  
Why has it taken this long for the Pakistani people to get pissed off that the Taliban should grow some balls and join the modern world? Dont seem to hear to much about them getting pissed off for burning down schools and throwing acid in girls faces.
 
2012-10-16 04:22:35 PM  

MBooda: Were they driving a black '68 Charger with six hubcaps?
[i.ytimg.com image 480x360]


Came to make Bullitt reference, see it's been covered.
 
2012-10-16 04:25:59 PM  
i46.tinypic.com
 
2012-10-16 04:29:49 PM  
What the Taliban had to say: "We targeted her because she would speak against the Taliban while sitting with shameless strangers and idealized the biggest enemy of Islam, Barack Obama." 

Don't let the Tea Partiers know this, or they'll be posting nasty things on her Facebook page.
 
2012-10-16 04:31:48 PM  

OgreMagi: Rusty Shackleford: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 468x591]

Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.

I think a single Gurkha would be plenty to do the job. Two would be considered a weapon of mass destruction.



well two would be overkill, but in this case overkill is a good thing.


/ if a 30cal is good , 50 cal is better, 25mm brings a smile to my face
// i like overkill
// insert witty comment here
 
2012-10-16 04:37:18 PM  

masercot: Sure, but if we killed every member of the Taliban, raped their women, sowed salt in their fields and ground their children up into a fine paste, suddenly WE'D be the bad guys...

Go figure...



Only if it was found out.
 
2012-10-16 04:42:49 PM  
OOOOPSSS.... forgot to edit that - I'm totally against the raping part. As you know, women don;t have any say whatsoever to the taliban. In fact, they are completely victims in this.

...................................

Ever notice when a drone strikes a house where known taliban commanders had entered for a meeting, the first thing found in the rubble is bodies of women and children???

Muslim men won't bother letting any woman in on the big important business, so the women are left on the main floor as cannon fodder and to lay a guilt trip on Western soldiers.

The men then go down into some sort of sub-basement or maybe a tunnel to another building to conduct business away from pesky women and pesky drone strikes. The men have no balls; they hide behind women, using them as human shields.

No-one told me this. There is no citation for it. I don't need one, I just came to the conclusion myself.
 
2012-10-16 04:43:40 PM  

sodomizer: She's an MI-6 lackey and this was probably a plant.

Minds are controlled...


..... by religion.
 
2012-10-16 04:44:05 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


No, fundamentalists, period. The Christian ones in our country shooting doctors and bombing abortion clinics aren't any better.

Religion isn't a problem, people who kill in the name of peaceful religions are.
 
2012-10-16 04:54:19 PM  
Nice to see the libs come out in full militaristic force when they hear of things like this. If you guys could get it into your head that this type of things happens multiple times a day maybe you would understand why the US is there. Stop acting like you care about this girl, everyone knows that tomorrow you wil have forgotten the incident and be back to biatching about the US presence there.
 
2012-10-16 04:55:51 PM  
Wow, thread has devolved. Some people get their pannies in a bunch anytime religion of any sort is mentioned. I have gotten to the point where I won't even read that whargarble as it is all pretty much the same. Say what you want about Christians, they don't get all murdery when their beliefs are impugned or a 14 year old girl doesn't want to toe the line and be subservient and uneducated. You know, at least now that the crusades are over.
 
2012-10-16 04:58:47 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Nice to see the libs come out in full militaristic force when they hear of things like this. If you guys could get it into your head that this type of things happens multiple times a day maybe you would understand why the US is there. Stop acting like you care about this girl, everyone knows that tomorrow you wil have forgotten the incident and be back to biatching about the US presence there.


You guys acted like you cared when you bombed them...
 
2012-10-16 05:08:44 PM  

Fifi Le Pew: What the Taliban had to say: "We targeted her because she would speak against the Taliban while sitting with shameless strangers and idealized the biggest enemy of Islam, Barack Obama." 

Don't let the Tea Partiers know this, or they'll be posting nasty things on her Facebook page.


They would be conflicted. Brown people who hate America vs Kenyan Muslim Socialist Communist Obama.
 
2012-10-16 05:10:58 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: Say what you want about Christians, they don't get all murdery when their beliefs are impugned or a 14 year old girl doesn't want to toe the line and be subservient and uneducated. You know, at least now that the crusades are over.


What if you consider that the 14 year old girl is pregnant?

// Kind of destroys your argument, doesn't it?
 
2012-10-16 05:22:14 PM  

Leeds: Pumpernickel bread: Say what you want about Christians, they don't get all murdery when their beliefs are impugned or a 14 year old girl doesn't want to toe the line and be subservient and uneducated. You know, at least now that the crusades are over.

What if you consider that the 14 year old girl is pregnant?

// Kind of destroys your argument, doesn't it?


As I have no idea what the hell you are talking about, no it doesn't. Also, while my understanding of Christian tenets is admitedly sketchy, I am pretty sure they don't advocate executing fourteen year old girls for getting pregnant. Most christians I know are actually quite agreeable people. Perhaps your experiences with them were not quite as positive.
 
2012-10-16 05:25:04 PM  

Rent Party: lordjupiter: Rent Party: lordjupiter: Rent Party:

All the Taliban has to do is wait for attention to be drawn away by whatever shiny thing is next, and they can murder her in complete obscurity, and no one will give a damn.

Why would they do that? They want attention. They want to send a message.

They want her dead. These clowns murder people every day. They don't care about a message. They believe they are enforcing God's will. The only reason this *got* attention was the whole "oppressed schoolgirl wants an education" angle. They have, just this year, killed multiple police officers, a singer, a Red Cross worker, and the international response to all of that was a collective "meh."

This little kid is screwed as soon as the collective ADD takes over.

Cops, famous people and relief workers aren't the same as a 14 year old girl speaking up as an activist. That's going to get more attention.

Yes, the news cycle will bury this at some point. I don't think the Taliban will "wait" for that, though. The more attention they can get for their flexing of muscle the better.

Oh yeah, the 300 or so people they murdered this year were just a warm up. This girl, *she* is a message.

They don't give a damn about attention. They give a damn about enforcing their will, as they see it as the will of God.



At first, I had thought they were sending a message. But I think you're right. When they want to send a message/get attention/free advertising, they use fire and explosives (not referring to the kind of explosive used to move bullets out of barrels), such as hijacking a plane. They would use bullets just for regular everyday enforcement.
 
2012-10-16 05:27:44 PM  

BgJonson79: Rusty Shackleford: Time to post these two gentlemen at the door of the room.

/Yes, with the pipes as well.

I thought Gurkhas liked a challenge?


That's why there's only one knife. They'll have to argue/arm wrestle/flip a coin over who gets to use it first. Give the taliban wanker a running chance.
 
2012-10-16 05:28:07 PM  

lordjupiter: I have no problem with religious people who don't bother other people.

I do have a problem with religious fanatics who bother other people, and especially those that think only the other guy does it.


While some of us have a problem with every religious person being treated like a fanatic.
Did I bump into you on a public sidewalk, perhaps on an elevator?
Did I speak to you here or in public?
Is that all it takes?
 
2012-10-16 05:28:15 PM  

fawlty: Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?


She had the courage to publically advocate women's education despite the personal risk. That would definitely make her an advocate- or even a hero.
 
2012-10-16 05:33:21 PM  

desertgeek: Bonanza Jellybean: I'm tired of this shiat. Death to all fanatics!

This. All religious fanatics need to be destroyed for the safety of mankind.


Might as well get rid of anyone who advocates the death of another human.... aw poop.
 
2012-10-16 05:41:01 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: this kind of thing is why I don't understand why people support the crazed killing in the name of religion crowd. If you're a Pakistani, Afghani, or Libyan, why isn't there a general consensus to stop supporting these people? We have our share of religious crazies here too, but for the most part, they're relegated to silly protests. How do they get that much power in their communities? (I know they have weapons, but still, without a large amount of support I can't see them lasting very long)


Because the people the religious crazies are fighting against--corrupt politicians, plutocratic warlords, and tribal leaders who consider themselves "above the law"--are no better than, and in many cases are worse than, the religious crazies themselves.
 
2012-10-16 05:47:28 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

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Would all like a word with you


Wrong guys mostly, your point would have been far better made mentioning something like The Srebenica Massacre
 
2012-10-16 05:51:53 PM  

fluffy2097: Some 'Splainin' To Do: Hmm. I can't tell if you two are being deliberately ironic or not.

He's being an atheist.


Ahem! I'm an atheist and I don't agree with that statement.

Maybe you should put down that big ol' tarbrush of yours.
 
2012-10-16 06:00:24 PM  

machoprogrammer: Poowaddins: G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.

Ignoring the inappropriate ad hominem...you obviously don't live in the Bible Belt. The only thing different between Evangelical Christian fundies and the Taliban, is that they don't have major control over the local, state, and federal governments...yet.

Some of the things I've heard around here in Southern Indiana from Evanglical Christians are downright farking scary, and every year there's more and more of them saying it louder and louder.

- They want to kill teh gheys

- They want to murder people who are pro-choice (because we all
- They believe women with educations and jobs outside the home are an abomination (heard from a middle-aged woman at a beauty shop) (Yes, she was asked to leave the premises with shampoo still in her hair)

- They believe alcohol should be prohibited

- They believe people who work on Sundays should be killed

- They don't want the different races to intermarry/breed


So tell me again how they're different in their views?

citation needed.jpg

One isolated nutjob does not make a group. That is like saying Pol Pot and his killing of non-atheists speaks for all atheists.


Come to Indiana and talk with folks. Seriously, this is stuff I overhear at Steak N Shake at 2 am. This shiat he is talking about factored a lot into my deciding to leave the insurance business. I couldn't stand to be around there anymore. I knew kids who were disowned by their parents and shunned by their congregation for deciding to go to college and become nurses or something. I know kids who were sent to a camp out west where they were trained as a paramilitary militia to overthrow the government in the name of Jesus when gay marriage is legalized. It was part of a big homeschooling thing in the area.

When I went back to school, we had half the class walk out the first day in Intro to Archaeology and Human Origins. In Intro to Cultural Anthropology, it took until the religion section of the class but a third of the class decided to walk out and take an F (since they couldn't drop it at that point) rather than listen to someone put other religions on the same level as Christianity. To many people, there IS only one religion, and so freedom of religion only applies to Christianity. The others are "cults" or don't worship the Christian God so by definition they can't be a religion, therefore they have no rights. The Intervarsity Christian Athletes talked that angle up quite a bit.

The number reason why people I have known support libertarianism? So they can pass local laws bringing back segregation and forbidding non-white, non-fundamentalist Christians from even visiting their communities. Now, I know that's not true everywhere, but that has been my experience in southern Indiana.

All of this is supported by certain churches. Go to a mainstream Protestant church and you're probably not going to run into it too much, although my wife was horrified by what was being taught at the United Methodist church in our town (she decided to attend the one in Bloomington instead). The independent churches are the ones where this sort of thing grows. They don't have oversite or accountability built in like most denominations do.
 
2012-10-16 06:39:57 PM  

puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY


FTFY
 
2012-10-16 06:40:56 PM  

ModernPrimitive01: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

Would all like a word with you


McVeigh was no religious fundamentalist.
 
2012-10-16 06:43:48 PM  

fawlty: Birmingham Police say they questioned two people at a hospital where a teenage Pakistani activist is recovering after being shot

Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?


Uh, yeah.

If you have an opinion about how society should change and you express it, that makes you an activist. And if you draw international media attention to your cause by being shot for promoting it, then you are DEFINITELY an activist.

And a damn effective one, at that.
 
2012-10-16 06:45:58 PM  

Fizpez: Seems to me a couple of public news announcements stating "Malala has been moved to such and such hospital in this nearly abandoned wing..." along with a few SAS guys, you know, just hanging out at said hospital might solve quite a few problems.

Kind of like sending "You've won SUPERBOWL tickets!" to wanted felons and arresting them when they inevitably show up to pick them up....


Better yet, find an empty hospital and fill it up with nothing BUT special forces dressed up as doctors, nurses, patients, etc.
 
BHK
2012-10-16 06:50:54 PM  
If they really wanted to kill her, they'd get her on Obama's kill list. They could have her taken out and all of the young male civil...I mean, terrorists along with her.
 
2012-10-16 07:03:59 PM  

LOTN: If it's not in a dead sea scroll, it's not worth reading.


I will have to bring that up next time I get into it with a christian fundy.


Leeds: liam76: Leeds: liam76: Man On Pink Corner: liam76: So if I find an athiest in this thread talking about killing extremists does that mean I can make the argument that athiests are becoming more close tot he taliban day by day?

No, because unlike Christians, one atheist can't speak for the rest. There is no Nicene Creed of atheism.

Yeah there is, it is "I don't believe in religion".

You can't use the nutball actiosn of one from a group to paint the rest.

What if what that person did was in the name of the group?

I could go to Ruby Tuesdays and shiat in the salad bar screaming I am doing it in the name of Jesus Christ, but that doesn't mean you can paint christians based on that.

If the actiosn were done by someoen or a group they elect, then yes go right ahead. If the faith ro sect has a head that endorses actions, then yes blame them (looking at you catholics).

But you still cant take the words of a self avowed leader and try and paint people by that.

So according to your example-

When a run of the mill catholic tries to curtail our freedoms, it doesn't mean that religion is oppressive and evil. But when the Pope indicates that he dislikes freedoms, that would paint catholics as evil and repressive.

Does that sum up your hypothesis properly?


I don't recall in the modern day the pope doing anything to indicate he dislikes freedom. And I never said it makes his followers "evil", but you can categorize catholics in general as supporting his stances.
 
2012-10-16 07:04:21 PM  
Egoy3k: Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians.

liam76: OK.


at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth. :


So you don't understand what "from the start" means. OK.
 
2012-10-16 07:10:16 PM  

kindms: People always try to make these equivalents. What they never do is this.

US Military might vs. NAME YOUR BAD GUY HERE

So the taliban shot and killed a girl. Our military "accidentally" kills girls just like that everyday in their countries. You might not equate it to "Deny girl right to education" but being dead kind of does that regardless of the intent.

All you folks want to say those folks over there are crazy, they believe in X, Y and Z and they are looney tunes

Well ours might not be as blatantly crazy, but American Exceptionalism is just as much a fundamental belief in this country. It allows our leaders and their followers to look the other way when we do terrible terrible things. The idea that America has the right to wage war on anyone at anytime for any reason is so accepted in this country that it is never discussed.

We run around enforcing our beliefs, our financial systems and culture at the end of a gun barrel. But you are right Americans by sheer will of where they were born are fundamentally righteous and good. It is just everyone in the world who has murderous intent and ill will towards others.


Joe Blowme: [www.4x4earth.com.au image 462x400]


Damnit all, kindms, you made me agree with Joe Blowme in a Fark thread. You evil bastard. 

/I feel so dirty now.
 
2012-10-16 07:12:00 PM  

G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.


Put gays, lesbians behind electric fence? Pastor's sermon goes viral
 
2012-10-16 07:22:12 PM  

ciberido: Egoy3k: Nobody came in here from the start trying to character assassinate christians.

liam76: OK.


at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth. :

So you don't understand what "from the start" means. OK.


Oh I understand it, but unlike you I understand it in the context of the claim of "nobody came in here, etc". I quoted his Boobies. It wasn't in response to anything. It was proof that somebody did in fact come in here attacking Christians, form the start.
 
2012-10-16 07:51:39 PM  

Kurmudgeon: lordjupiter: I have no problem with religious people who don't bother other people.

I do have a problem with religious fanatics who bother other people, and especially those that think only the other guy does it.

While some of us have a problem with every religious person being treated like a fanatic.
Did I bump into you on a public sidewalk, perhaps on an elevator?
Did I speak to you here or in public?
Is that all it takes?


Persecution complex? Who ever said any of that. Use some common sense.
 
2012-10-16 07:53:38 PM  

give me doughnuts: This amply demonstrates the fear that these groups have of an educated female populace.


Really, who are we to question their culture? Are not all cultures equally valid?
 
2012-10-16 08:01:03 PM  

ciberido: G-Rot: shiat, our own Christian fundies are coming close to the Taliban, more close day by day

Stupidest farking thing I've read all week...congratulations dumbass.

Put gays, lesbians behind electric fence? Pastor's sermon goes viral


Force me to live out my natural life in a huge gay campground or lynch in the middle of the village square?
 
2012-10-16 08:41:33 PM  

liam76: Koresh, yes a fundie, but he ended up being responsible for killing his own cult.


David Koresh did not fill the building with flammable gas, keep the fire engines away, and shoot anyone trying to leave. The federal government did that.

The cultists might have provided a source of ignition, if they were using kerosene lanterns as speculated.
 
2012-10-16 08:49:50 PM  
She's a man, baby.
 
2012-10-16 08:53:32 PM  

liam76: Oh I understand it, but unlike you I understand it in the context of the claim of "nobody came in here, etc". I quoted his Boobies. It wasn't in response to anything. It was proof that somebody did in fact come in here attacking Christians, form the start.


You'll get over it.
 
2012-10-16 09:06:48 PM  
For being such a tiny fringe element, those f*ckers sure do seem to be everywhere.
 
2012-10-16 09:25:46 PM  
fawlty:
Activist? Really? Can a 14 year old even be an activist? She's a teen who thought and said girls out to be allowed an education. That makes her an activist?

It wasn't that long ago here that suggesting that women should get the vote made you a dangerous radical.
 
2012-10-17 12:06:49 AM  
Shocking news about the reality of a thugocracy of violent misogynist death lovers

And then there's Obama ... "let's send them all home from Gitmo so they can have a normal life." And it was a stupid film not terrorism.
 
2012-10-17 12:11:14 AM  
So scared of girls learning that they can do better. Yep the Taliban is full of manly men.
 
2012-10-17 03:03:52 AM  
Holy irresponsible headlines, Batman, that's not what the article says!
 
2012-10-17 05:22:27 AM  

liam76: It wasn't in response to anything. It was proof that somebody did in fact come in here attacking Christians, form the start.


Christians? Or christian fundamentalists? There is a difference.
 
2012-10-17 05:24:15 AM  

stuffy: So scared of girls learning that they can do better. Yep the Taliban is full of manly men.


Well *somebody's* gotta keep those uppity girls in line, or they might grow up to be women and give them cooties.
 
2012-10-17 07:31:11 AM  

ciberido: liam76: Oh I understand it, but unlike you I understand it in the context of the claim of "nobody came in here, etc". I quoted his Boobies. It wasn't in response to anything. It was proof that somebody did in fact come in here attacking Christians, form the start.

You'll get over it.


Nothing to get over. He was wrong, and I corrected him.

Just like you were wrong, and I corrected you.

I hope you will get over it.


Uncle Tractor: liam76: It wasn't in response to anything. It was proof that somebody did in fact come in here attacking Christians, form the start.

Christians? Or christian fundamentalists? There is a difference.


He commented on a story about muslims and with no prepping, and not responding to anyone tried to make it about christians. Just because he was adressing a subset of christians doesn;t mean he wasn't talking about christians.
 
2012-10-17 07:46:23 AM  

G-Rot: Barfmaker Hussein was like this, Iraq was stable for years under him. There was a stable economy, colleges and universities, museums, art and every now and then he'd gas the Kurds.

He killed 150,000 Iraqi citizens a year. But we should have left him alone because he kept the lights on?

/Germany was pretty stable in 1939
//Godwin's rule does not apply...apt comparison.


That's gotta be the stupidest thing I've read all week.
 
2012-10-17 08:55:50 AM  
Religion Of Peace, yah right.
Also, sure bet Malala isn't getting Ntl Health Svc care, HM EIIR's tax payers are paying for her care, for sure & certain.
 
2012-10-17 11:09:53 AM  

lordjupiter: Persecution complex? Who ever said any of that. Use some common sense.


Fine, you use your common sense and define "bother" in the context of your first statement.
You can be dismissive apparently, but your use of logic is suspect.
 
2012-10-17 05:24:13 PM  
I see that Bullit and The Godfather are covered for hospital assassination attempts, but no one has posted Truck Turner
 
2012-10-18 04:59:37 AM  

liam76: He commented on a story about muslims and with no prepping, and not responding to anyone tried to make it about christians. Just because he was adressing a subset of christians doesn;t mean he wasn't talking about christians.


As far as I can tell, he was talking about fundamentalists, which are a subset of all theists including christians. I guess you're better at reading minds than I am.
 
2012-10-18 07:02:42 AM  

Uncle Tractor: liam76: He commented on a story about muslims and with no prepping, and not responding to anyone tried to make it about christians. Just because he was adressing a subset of christians doesn;t mean he wasn't talking about christians.

As far as I can tell, he was talking about fundamentalists, which are a subset of all theists including christians. I guess you're better at reading minds than I am.


I am no mind reader. I just happened to see how he said "christian fundamentalists" and "muslim fundamentalists", and am not dishonest enough to ignore the bolded portion.
 
2012-10-18 08:29:30 AM  

liam76: I am no mind reader. I just happened to see how he said "christian fundamentalists" and "muslim fundamentalists", and am not dishonest enough to ignore the bolded portion.


Are we talking about the same person? This guy? And this post?

ciberido: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

FTFY

 
2012-10-18 08:53:15 AM  

Uncle Tractor: liam76: I am no mind reader. I just happened to see how he said "christian fundamentalists" and "muslim fundamentalists", and am not dishonest enough to ignore the bolded portion.

Are we talking about the same person? This guy? And this post?

ciberido: puppetmaster745: Occam's_Doctor: Farking Islamic fundamentalists

FTFY

FTFY


If you aren't talking abotu this guy

at least the islamic fanatics are honest about what they want.

christian fanatics trying to claim the high ground are the most pathetic and evil people on earth.
:


then you switched topics after responding to my post.
 
2012-10-18 06:00:04 PM  

Oldiron_79: I see that Bullit and The Godfather are covered for hospital assassination attempts, but no one has posted Truck Turner


Or, for that matter, the memorable oxygen deprivation police interrogation scene in The 7-Ups.

/i'll talk >gaspwheeze
 
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