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(The Atlantic)   "You know, when you were a baby in your crib, your father looked down at you, he had but one hope - some day my son will grow to be a man. Well look at you now. You just got your asses whipped by a bunch of goddamn nerds. "   (theatlantic.com) divider line 57
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2012-10-16 09:49:31 AM  
Great reference, submitter.

True story: I once sang karoake ("Aqualung") with Don Gibb, who played Ogre.
 
2012-10-16 10:13:17 AM  
Her name is Judy.
That's a nice name.
Yeah she's a nice girl.
Big deal, did you get into her pants?
She's not that kind of a girl, booger.
Why, does she have a penis?
www.uncoached.com
 
2012-10-16 10:31:18 AM  
yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.
 
2012-10-16 10:48:31 AM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


I've been to Pennsylvania. I think it's more likely there is no TECH. ^__^
 
2012-10-16 10:52:29 AM  
The problem with Houston leading the way on that second graph is that you have to live in Houston.
 
2012-10-16 10:55:09 AM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


I think I see the problem.
 
2012-10-16 10:57:11 AM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


The problem is being in central Pennsylvania, I'd guess. Here in metro Detroit, we're desperate for engineers, DBAs, programmers, network guys, heck -- I just hire an entry level data analyst and I only got like 30 resumes and only about 6 were even remotely qualified (all I wanted was a relevant degree without experience or some sort of experience that shows you understand programming). Our company is constantly looking for entry-level network techs and are having trouble finding them. There was recently a news story talking about how there were currently thousands of open jobs for engineers (mainly in the auto industry, of course).
 
2012-10-16 11:02:50 AM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


The last two words are your problem. If I may paraphrase the Prophet for a moment, "MOVE WHERE THE JOBS ARE! THERE AREN'T ANY JOBS IN PA! YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IN A HUNDRED YEARS? UNEMPLOYMENT! AAH! AAAAAAAAHHHH!!!"
 
2012-10-16 11:05:25 AM  

meanmutton: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

The problem is being in central Pennsylvania, I'd guess. Here in metro Detroit, we're desperate for engineers, DBAs, programmers, network guys, heck -- I just hire an entry level data analyst and I only got like 30 resumes and only about 6 were even remotely qualified (all I wanted was a relevant degree without experience or some sort of experience that shows you understand programming). Our company is constantly looking for entry-level network techs and are having trouble finding them. There was recently a news story talking about how there were currently thousands of open jobs for engineers (mainly in the auto industry, of course).


That because who wants to live in farking Detroit, especially a computer nerd?
 
2012-10-16 11:09:28 AM  

Geotpf: meanmutton: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

The problem is being in central Pennsylvania, I'd guess. Here in metro Detroit, we're desperate for engineers, DBAs, programmers, network guys, heck -- I just hire an entry level data analyst and I only got like 30 resumes and only about 6 were even remotely qualified (all I wanted was a relevant degree without experience or some sort of experience that shows you understand programming). Our company is constantly looking for entry-level network techs and are having trouble finding them. There was recently a news story talking about how there were currently thousands of open jobs for engineers (mainly in the auto industry, of course).

That because who wants to live in farking Detroit, especially a computer nerd?


No one wants to live in the city. Lots of people like living in the suburbs. Ann Arbor, Birmingham, Orchard Lake, Grosse Pointe, etc., are all quite nice. If you want to live in a big city -- no, it's not for you. If you want to live in a nice, suburban neighborhood with good schools and a big, inexpensive house on the water, with beautiful summers and mild (but still snowy) winters then South-East Michigan is pretty awesome.
 
2012-10-16 11:17:16 AM  

meanmutton: Geotpf: meanmutton: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

The problem is being in central Pennsylvania, I'd guess. Here in metro Detroit, we're desperate for engineers, DBAs, programmers, network guys, heck -- I just hire an entry level data analyst and I only got like 30 resumes and only about 6 were even remotely qualified (all I wanted was a relevant degree without experience or some sort of experience that shows you understand programming). Our company is constantly looking for entry-level network techs and are having trouble finding them. There was recently a news story talking about how there were currently thousands of open jobs for engineers (mainly in the auto industry, of course).

That because who wants to live in farking Detroit, especially a computer nerd?

No one wants to live in the city. Lots of people like living in the suburbs. Ann Arbor, Birmingham, Orchard Lake, Grosse Pointe, etc., are all quite nice. If you want to live in a big city -- no, it's not for you. If you want to live in a nice, suburban neighborhood with good schools and a big, inexpensive house on the water, with beautiful summers and mild (but still snowy) winters then South-East Michigan is pretty awesome.


Agreed. And I'm actually working on a Master's in a tech-related field at UMich-Ann Arbor right now, so I'm getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-10-16 11:28:04 AM  

Gonz: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

The last two words are your problem. If I may paraphrase the Prophet for a moment, "MOVE WHERE THE JOBS ARE! THERE AREN'T ANY JOBS IN PA! YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IN A HUNDRED YEARS? UNEMPLOYMENT! AAH! AAAAAAAAHHHH!!!"


of course...assuming I found a job in some other state I'd have to see my condo. not...exactly the best environment to sell a property in, at least not yet anyways. maybe in another year or two it'd work out better.

that said, if someone has a job lead by all means send it to my ultrafark email addie - it's in my profile.
 
2012-10-16 11:28:51 AM  
[csb]
Just yesterday I got a call from a college athlete who was looking for work. You ever wonder what happens to the majority of college football players who don't get drafted? The leave school with some worthless "sports business management" degree and unrealistic expectations for their career. They all think they're going to be sports agents or marketing executives in a major-league front office. And my job is to tell these meatheads that they only hire MBAs or lawyers for those slots, and the best they're going to get is volunteer coaching at a middle school.

The geeks inherit the earth; jocks only get bad joints and faded glory.
[/csb]
 
2012-10-16 11:30:21 AM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


Well here in Boise there is a wealth of tech jobs, the problem is there are not many qualified people...because it's Boise. (ID)
 
2012-10-16 11:32:41 AM  

Fabric_Man: [csb]
Just yesterday I got a call from a college athlete who was looking for work. You ever wonder what happens to the majority of college football players who don't get drafted? The leave school with some worthless "sports business management" degree and unrealistic expectations for their career. They all think they're going to be sports agents or marketing executives in a major-league front office. And my job is to tell these meatheads that they only hire MBAs or lawyers for those slots, and the best they're going to get is volunteer coaching at a middle school.

The geeks inherit the earth; jocks only get bad joints and faded glory.
[/csb]


Every time I watch a college football game and they pop up their majors, I think to myself -- how in the world are you not taking advantage of the fact that you get a free education from a good university to get something worthwhile? These universities have engineering, education, nursing, and business schools. Why aren't you getting a degree in one of those?
 
2012-10-16 11:36:46 AM  

meanmutton: Fabric_Man: [csb]
Just yesterday I got a call from a college athlete who was looking for work. You ever wonder what happens to the majority of college football players who don't get drafted? The leave school with some worthless "sports business management" degree and unrealistic expectations for their career. They all think they're going to be sports agents or marketing executives in a major-league front office. And my job is to tell these meatheads that they only hire MBAs or lawyers for those slots, and the best they're going to get is volunteer coaching at a middle school.

The geeks inherit the earth; jocks only get bad joints and faded glory.
[/csb]

Every time I watch a college football game and they pop up their majors, I think to myself -- how in the world are you not taking advantage of the fact that you get a free education from a good university to get something worthwhile? These universities have engineering, education, nursing, and business schools. Why aren't you getting a degree in one of those?


Because they can't. Either, and let's be honest, they're not real college material, or their coach requires so much "voluntary" training time that they can only handle the Micky Mouse course load of a fake degree.
 
2012-10-16 11:41:01 AM  

Weaver95: ...there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


I believe you just answered your own question.
Unless you can get a job with Corning or PSU or something.
 
2012-10-16 11:45:03 AM  

wildcardjack: have to live in Houston


Houston is the arm pit of the nation.
 
2012-10-16 11:46:33 AM  

Geotpf: That because who wants to live in farking Detroit, especially a computer nerd?


If any city sounds like it's a real life MMO, it is Detroit. It's a pvp gankfest over there.
 
2012-10-16 11:49:20 AM  
What the fark are robstercraws?
 
2012-10-16 11:50:15 AM  

Cinaed: Weaver95: ...there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

I believe you just answered your own question.
Unless you can get a job with Corning or PSU or something.


That's Central New York, FYI.

Also, to Weaver95:

I sympathize. I'd love to be back closer to family (born and raised in Bedford County) but there's just nothing there. My MIL just can't get that through her head... Even after 5 years in the greater Philadelphia area.

/Still prefer Philly to the Pitts...
 
2012-10-16 11:56:03 AM  

bmongar: wildcardjack: have to live in Houston

Houston is the arm pit of the nation.


I thought that was Jersey?
 
2012-10-16 11:57:58 AM  

firegoat: Houston is the arm pit of the nation.


Jersey is the asshole of the nation. Sure as hell smells like it.
 
2012-10-16 12:00:01 PM  

meanmutton: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

The problem is being in central Pennsylvania, I'd guess. Here in metro Detroit, we're desperate for engineers, DBAs, programmers, network guys, heck -- I just hire an entry level data analyst and I only got like 30 resumes and only about 6 were even remotely qualified (all I wanted was a relevant degree without experience or some sort of experience that shows you understand programming). Our company is constantly looking for entry-level network techs and are having trouble finding them. There was recently a news story talking about how there were currently thousands of open jobs for engineers (mainly in the auto industry, of course).


Meh, my problem here in St. Louis is not that I can't get a new job, I've had four offers and a ton of interviews in the last six months, but nobody is willing to pay me a better wage and benefits package. Fark it for what people are willing to pay I might as well stay where I am, in three years I get another 6 days of vacation for a total of 26, for the next 27 years.
 
2012-10-16 12:03:52 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Geotpf: That because who wants to live in farking Detroit, especially a computer nerd?

If any city sounds like it's a real life MMO, it is Detroit. It's a pvp gankfest over there.


Heh. You have never experienced the joys of St. Louis or New Orleans.
 
2012-10-16 12:07:38 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Geotpf: That because who wants to live in farking Detroit, especially a computer nerd?

If any city sounds like it's a real life MMO, it is Detroit. It's a pvp gankfest over there.


What's odd about Detroit is that the city lines are drawn quite differently than, say, Chicago. The worst parts of Chicago are worse than Detroit but because the city includes some really nice areas -- areas in SE Michigan that are separate cities -- people don't think that Chicago is that terrible of a city.
 
2012-10-16 12:15:33 PM  

lousyskater: Jersey is the asshole of the nation. Sure as hell smells like it.


Hey, hey, hey. Can we at least specify Central/North Jersey? South Jersey is just Philly Suburbs and Farmland. 

(Feel free to bash Philly. I can take it. Just don't lump me in with those North Jersey/NY people!)
 
2012-10-16 12:22:58 PM  
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2012-10-16 12:26:34 PM  
My boyfriend is an IT guy in Seattle, so I'm getting a kick...

/food service worker signing in
 
2012-10-16 12:27:32 PM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


Your first mistake is in trying to find meaningful work in Pennsyltucky.

/come to the Pacific Northwest
//we don't bite, I promise
 
2012-10-16 12:42:25 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

Your first mistake is in trying to find meaningful work in Pennsyltucky.

/come to the Pacific Northwest
//we don't bite, I promise


Well, unless you ask nicely.
 
2012-10-16 12:48:57 PM  
Ugh.

As a programmer, I got a kick out of the article until it decided to end off on "and since there's actually a group of Americans out there making a livable wage, we should immediately solve this problem by importing hundreds of thousands of cheap Indian and Eastern European immigrants!"

Because, y'know, unemployment is so low in this country these days that it's just not possible to train anyone here to do those jobs.
 
2012-10-16 01:01:57 PM  

Scoot951: Ugh.

As a programmer, I got a kick out of the article until it decided to end off on "and since there's actually a group of Americans out there making a livable wage, we should immediately solve this problem by importing hundreds of thousands of cheap Indian and Eastern European immigrants!"

Because, y'know, unemployment is so low in this country these days that it's just not possible to train anyone here to do those jobs.


It would be pretty hard to just "train" programmers and engineers. "Train" in this context meaning giving specific task-level instruction over a relatively short time period. Many of these areas require a technical background and natural affinity. That would be hard to make up for.

We really need to invest in education overall to eventually produce a larger pool of possible candidates.
 
2012-10-16 01:07:24 PM  

Weaver95: i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


Pittsburgh is starving for experienced IT folks.I know, not the best time to move, etc, etc, but it's there.

GameSprocket: "Train" in this context meaning giving specific task-level instruction over a relatively short time period. Many of these areas require a technical background and natural affinity.


There are two levels of developer. There are the coders who can be given a specific task and be expected to complete it. They're largely filling in blanks and following standards, wrapped up with unit tests they can be relied on to generate code. Then there are programmers- people who can look at a complex and multi-layered problem and solve that problem. They can communicate that solution, both in code and in natural language (to their coders).
 
2012-10-16 01:13:25 PM  

Grapple: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

I've been to Pennsylvania. I think it's more likely there is no TECH. ^__^


There's a reason it's referred to as Pennsyltucky.

/and yeah, it's an accurate portmanteau
//FWIW: it's also one of the worst states for new job creation
 
2012-10-16 01:17:16 PM  

t3knomanser: GameSprocket: "Train" in this context meaning giving specific task-level instruction over a relatively short time period. Many of these areas require a technical background and natural affinity.

There are two levels of developer. There are the coders who can be given a specific task and be expected to complete it. They're largely filling in blanks and following standards, wrapped up with unit tests they can be relied on to generate code. Then there are programmers- people who can look at a complex and multi-layered problem and solve that problem. They can communicate that solution, both in code and in natural language (to their coders).



Well, it is true that some of the overseas resources that are being used to develop software these days are not people who I would think of as naturally technical. At one point a lot of the people writing software were people who were automating their own processes with Visual Basic or Access. I hate to think about going back to those dark days, but at least everyone knew it was crap.
 
2012-10-16 01:26:39 PM  
If I had a time machine, I'd go back to either be either a medical professional (not a doctor, but something to do with the medical community) or learn more code and be IT. As it is, I've got a Master's Degree that can get me into marketing, PR, journalism, advertising and technical writing (all of which I've done)...and no job.

I'm trying like mad to get a job here in northern Colorado (live in Fort Collins now, but I am willing to work in Loveland, Greeley, Boulder, or Denver area), and in the last six months I've had only two phone interviews and one in-person interview. I've signed up for a temp service, and even they are having trouble placing me. I don't have crazy pay demands; I just want to be able to pay my bills (which are tiny; I only need to make about $800 after taxes a month to cover all of my expenses).
 
2012-10-16 01:29:57 PM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


Ahhh so that is how you turned into a drooling economic populist..... Hope something comes your way.
 
2012-10-16 01:36:13 PM  

GameSprocket: Scoot951: Ugh.

As a programmer, I got a kick out of the article until it decided to end off on "and since there's actually a group of Americans out there making a livable wage, we should immediately solve this problem by importing hundreds of thousands of cheap Indian and Eastern European immigrants!"

Because, y'know, unemployment is so low in this country these days that it's just not possible to train anyone here to do those jobs.

It would be pretty hard to just "train" programmers and engineers. "Train" in this context meaning giving specific task-level instruction over a relatively short time period. Many of these areas require a technical background and natural affinity. That would be hard to make up for.

We really need to invest in education overall to eventually produce a larger pool of possible candidates.


In the US, we're spending what, a trillion dollars a year on education? Per pupil spending is currently 5 times higher in real dollar (inflation adjusted) terms than it was in 1961; 15% higher in real dollar (inflation adjusted) terms than it was in 2000.

The issue isn't that we don't "invest in education"; it's that we have the wrong priorities when it comes to schooling. Very few high schools require any sort of real computer education. Very few high schools require more than 2 years of any sort of science. Very few high schools require 4 years of math. We do a terrible job at identifying children who have the potential to go into school. We have the same collegiate funding of undergraduate degrees in philosophy, music history, or communication that we do in engineering, math, or computer science because it would be absolutely horrible for the Federal Government to require that the college degrees it funds be ones which society actually has a use for.
 
2012-10-16 01:45:49 PM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


"Tech jobs" is a pretty wide category. Can you be more specific? I may know where a few openings are...
 
2012-10-16 01:55:39 PM  
I'm trying like the dickens to get outta my current job, it's not bad, it's just super dead end, been here almost 10 years. I'm applying for about 3 positions at a nice place I think I'd be good at, all still in Iowa. For one of them, a recruiter from India, yes India contacted me to apply for an updated opening. My initial reaction was a Keanu Reeves 'Whoah'
 
2012-10-16 02:17:22 PM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


You could always get into Amish computer repair. How hard can putting beads on dowels be?
 
2012-10-16 02:20:16 PM  

cmraman: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

"Tech jobs" is a pretty wide category. Can you be more specific? I may know where a few openings are...


you name it, i've used it, broken it, fixed it and/or written code for it. everything from desktop support to mainframe operations. unix. linux, SAP systems....i'm familiar with them all.
 
2012-10-16 02:21:27 PM  

Weaver95: Gonz: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

The last two words are your problem. If I may paraphrase the Prophet for a moment, "MOVE WHERE THE JOBS ARE! THERE AREN'T ANY JOBS IN PA! YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE IN A HUNDRED YEARS? UNEMPLOYMENT! AAH! AAAAAAAAHHHH!!!"

of course...assuming I found a job in some other state I'd have to see my condo. not...exactly the best environment to sell a property in, at least not yet anyways. maybe in another year or two it'd work out better.

that said, if someone has a job lead by all means send it to my ultrafark email addie - it's in my profile.


ever thought about North to Alaska?
 
2012-10-16 02:26:45 PM  

Weaver95: cmraman: Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

"Tech jobs" is a pretty wide category. Can you be more specific? I may know where a few openings are...

you name it, i've used it, broken it, fixed it and/or written code for it. everything from desktop support to mainframe operations. unix. linux, SAP systems....i'm familiar with them all.


Maybe the bit in your Fark profile about being Hitler might be harming your job search.
 
2012-10-16 02:28:06 PM  

edip1976: (Feel free to bash Philly. I can take it. Just don't lump me in with those North Jersey/NY people!)


Just remember which side won the civil war.

Seriously though, if I could find work south of I-195, I would gladly cross the Driscoll Bridge(s) and never look back unless it's to go to Yankees games.
 
2012-10-16 02:57:48 PM  

Weaver95: yeah...and now if businesses would stop shipping IT jobs overseas i'd actually be employed again. i'm STILL looking for work. i'm starting to believe there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.


Phoenix Contact in Middletown PA are looking for a few IT people. This info comes to me from a product engineer inside the company...may want to give their HR a call.
 
2012-10-16 02:59:11 PM  

bmongar: wildcardjack: have to live in Houston

Houston is the arm pit of the nation.


Where else can you live 60 miles away in a $80k house on the beach?
 
2012-10-16 03:21:31 PM  
The other categories presented are "food service" and "retail".

This is what is known as "making yourself feel good by setting the bar arbitrarily low".
 
2012-10-16 03:47:17 PM  

slapmastered: Cinaed: Weaver95: ...there ARE no tech jobs in central Pennsylvania.

I believe you just answered your own question.
Unless you can get a job with Corning or PSU or something.

That's Central New York, FYI.


Corning has locations all over the US. They have an enormous production facility in Wilmington, NC for making optical fiber and a cabling plant outside Charlotte.
 
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