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2012-10-16 10:43:02 AM  
Popcorn should never be done in a microwave. Get a pan, some vegetable or peanut oil, and some high-quality popcorn (Black or Red Jewell, or any one of the white popcorn varieties). Stay away from most yellow ones -those are made for size and fluffiness - not taste.

With good popcorn, you don't even need butter - just add some salt, and it's a bit of heaven.

Even Alton Brown agrees....
 
2012-10-16 10:44:47 AM  

Flakeloaf: oldfarthenry: Dear popcorn consumers, to avoid popcorn lung refrain from stuffing your face directly into the bag. I mean really? Were you brought up in a frickin' barn. Oink-Oink, fatties!

Know how I know you didn't RTFA?

injuries that Eric suffered from workplace exposure to the chemical diacetyl

Exposure to a precursor chemical in the air for eight hours a day every day for years is a bit different from a moron stuffing his head in a popcorn bag and breathing fumes from the finished product.

Also:

Neely told the Globe a year ago that he built the house for the couple over a five-year period but stopped work early last year when the unpaid bill came to a head.

It takes five years to build a friggin house?


Must be the same guys replacing my Subaru short block... 4 weeks now
 
2012-10-16 10:45:06 AM  
FTA:
The newspaper says it was never clear how much of the verdict money the Peoples ever received, since an unstated portion, according to attorneys, was meant to be given to other workers injured at the same plant.

Some might think that's a pretty important piece of information to have before implying they had blown through $20 million.
 
2012-10-16 10:45:23 AM  
In their part of the country, 400k will get you a ridicules house on 20 acres. Another 100k for cars and ATVs, maybe 50k to furnish a 3000 square foot house, and 10k for a nice tractor with a brush hog. So let's assume they got 5 million after everything, and went through a million getting their new home set up, a vacation, and helping out some family and friends. So they are left with 4 million to invest and live off the interest, they should get well over 100k a year easy to live off of, that would be more then sufficient to pay the bills since the house is paid for, and anything else they may need. Then they have a safety net for when their health starts to decline because of the damage. So like others have stated, they probably were not the brightest and are easily duped. Too bad, such a waste that could have set them for life.
 
2012-10-16 10:45:54 AM  

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: ZAZ: Better story: http://www.kansas.com/2012/10/15/2533401/missouri-couple-bankrupt-eig h t.html.

Their lawyers took 35%. They may have had to share some of the rest with other workers. Apparently they were conned into spending $4 million to build a $400,000 house. That's government contractor grade overrun there.

Fill in the blanks: "A ________ and his _________ are soon parted."

No different than those lottery winners you read about who wind up broke a few years after hitting it big. Unless you have experience handling that sort of money, or you have someone trustworthy advising you, then the old proverb invariably applies.


I have to disagree. The amount of money means nothing. It is all about budgeting based on income. If you have X amount of income, don't sign up for more than X amount of outlfow.

Money handling skills aren't based on the size of the principle.

Non-lawsuit payout recipient/non lottery winners go broke all the time.
 
2012-10-16 10:47:36 AM  

green4mice: My new retirement plan:
1. Eat nothing but cheeze-in-a-can
2. Hope that my body gets damaged from all the cheeze abuse
3. Profit
4. Invest like Scrooge McDuck
/5. Not Die


If your body is damaged in serious ways that are not expected from the consumption of the product you'll have a case. If you have a heart attack and die because of all the fat and sodium, not so much.

First of all, this isn't the guy who just ate a shiat-load of popcorn and got the condition, this is somebody who was actually harmed from working in and around the chemicals produced during the manufacture of the product.

Secondly, if you eat an unusual amount of microwave popcorn, a normal person would expect to maybe get fat, have coronary issues, etc, not get a debilitating lung disease more akin to people who work in a coal mine all their life. Hell, if you're eating unbuttered popcorn as a snack in place of something like greasy potato chips it's not unreasonable to believe what you're doing might actually be better for your health than a typical alternative.

Just because you do something unusual doesn't mean you should be subject to any and all consequences for your behavior. Just like the hot coffee lawsuit. You should expect to be hurt if you're stupid enough to put your cup between your legs and drop it. Pain, swelling, redness. What normal people don't expect is skin-melting burns that require substantial grafts to repair as if you've been in a damn fire.

Reasonable expectations. Expectations are key. Companies don't and shouldn't get out of paying for injuries they cause that are above and beyond what a normal person would expect from casual misuse of a product. You shouldn't be able to sue people and win because you got fat eating too many buttery snacks because normal people would expect that to happen, but you certainly should be able to sue people and win because you got a massive frickin' lung disease from eating it.
 
2012-10-16 10:48:38 AM  
EatHam
Farking Canuck:
The metallic elements are disposable but reusable for a while ... I've made about 10 batches and am still on the first one.

I have never used one, and they are unnecessary. Just a brown paper bag, some popcorn, some olive oil, hit the microwave button, comes out just fine.


I usually just load up the office microwave with some popcorn, EVO and set it for NUKE. I then leave the office for lunch. When I come back, I complain about the popcorn and smoke smell. "I can't work like this! I have to go home."

But I don't go home.
 
2012-10-16 10:49:31 AM  
This really isn't that unusual. Plaintiffs in personal injury matters often don't understand financial planning that well and look at the money they've received as limitless. That money has to pay for all those medical bills that accrued in the past and will accrue in the future. All those lost wages you had in the past and loss of future earnings? That's in there, which means if you had 20 years of work ahead of you at $50k/yr, that money is supposed to provide you with $50k/yr for 20 years. Could you have bought a yacht if the accident had never happened? Probably not. Settlements and awards are supposed to make you whole again, not necessarily rich. Sure, there may be a big chunk in there for pain and suffering, but your attorneys are taking 34-40% right off the top, plus expenses, so if you had to hire a lot of experts, that's coming out of the kitty, too. Most attorneys don't have the time or the qualifications to be a financial planner for their clients, but it doesn't take much common sense to figure out why this happens.
 
2012-10-16 10:51:52 AM  
did anyone mention that you really don't need to use those pre-packaged microwave things for quick popcorn? I mean you can just use an old trash bag, some discarded motor oil and fermented rabbit poop.

errr...i mean a brown paper bag, some olive oil, and popcorn kernels.
 
2012-10-16 10:55:40 AM  

awfulawful: Now I have that Jethro Tull song, Popcorn Lung, stuck in my head. Thanks a bunch, Subby.


Sitting on a park bench,
Hacking out my right lung,
I'm truly spent
 
2012-10-16 10:56:53 AM  

Nabb1: This really isn't that unusual. Plaintiffs in personal injury matters often don't understand financial planning that well and look at the money they've received as limitless. That money has to pay for all those medical bills that accrued in the past and will accrue in the future. All those lost wages you had in the past and loss of future earnings? That's in there, which means if you had 20 years of work ahead of you at $50k/yr, that money is supposed to provide you with $50k/yr for 20 years. Could you have bought a yacht if the accident had never happened? Probably not. Settlements and awards are supposed to make you whole again, not necessarily rich. Sure, there may be a big chunk in there for pain and suffering, but your attorneys are taking 34-40% right off the top, plus expenses, so if you had to hire a lot of experts, that's coming out of the kitty, too. Most attorneys don't have the time or the qualifications to be a financial planner for their clients, but it doesn't take much common sense to figure out why this happens.


So much this. Foolish people see these settlements/judgments as a windfall instead of an awkward shove towards where the victim would've ended up anyway if they hadn't been damaged
 
2012-10-16 10:56:53 AM  
Hmmmm, so they had a settlement but they need cash now?

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2012-10-16 11:00:28 AM  
A little garlic salt on popcorn is heaven. Don't even need butter.
 
2012-10-16 11:01:00 AM  

generallyso: FTA:
The newspaper says it was never clear how much of the verdict money the Peoples ever received, since an unstated portion, according to attorneys, was meant to be given to other workers injured at the same plant.

Some might think that's a pretty important piece of information to have before implying they had blown through $20 million.


And maybe how much they spent on medical bills over that time too...
 
2012-10-16 11:01:35 AM  

Flakeloaf: oldfarthenry: Dear popcorn consumers, to avoid popcorn lung refrain from stuffing your face directly into the bag. I mean really? Were you brought up in a frickin' barn. Oink-Oink, fatties!

Know how I know you didn't RTFA?

injuries that Eric suffered from workplace exposure to the chemical diacetyl

Exposure to a precursor chemical in the air for eight hours a day every day for years is a bit different from a moron stuffing his head in a popcorn bag and breathing fumes from the finished product.

Also:

Neely told the Globe a year ago that he built the house for the couple over a five-year period but stopped work early last year when the unpaid bill came to a head.

It takes five years to build a friggin house?


I pretty sure that they kept changing what they wanted based on what they saw on T.V. People are like this. One of my friends owns a home remolding company and he has told me about several jobs he was contracted to do that should have gone 6 months tops, that ended up going 2+ years because of the home owners constant revisions.
 
2012-10-16 11:08:52 AM  
cefm lawsuit proceeds are not taxable so add the 35% back in to the amount. .
 
2012-10-16 11:09:42 AM  
What isn't mentioned in either of these articles is how much of the money has gone to medical bills, before or after the settlement.

Of course, if they had significant health issues and bills to pay off, they shouldn't have been building a new home and buying new cars. If the new house was handicap accessible and the vehicles were wheel-chair vehicles it would make better sense, but nothing like that is mentioned.
 
2012-10-16 11:11:38 AM  

Bronzemom: cefm lawsuit proceeds are not taxable so add the 35% back in to the amount. .


That is what I thought. But the article did say that they had to set aside money for other people at the plant, so you can probably subtract that 35% again.
 
2012-10-16 11:12:36 AM  

buckler: WTF? Why would she be writing checks to her employer, much less bad ones? Unless they fronted her some cash or paid a commission in advance or something


She works in real estate. She probably owed a percentage of her commission to the agency.
 
2012-10-16 11:13:07 AM  
I saw the headline and read "Antoine Dodson" and got confused.

/Hide your popcorn, hide your lungs
 
2012-10-16 11:13:33 AM  
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2012-10-16 11:13:46 AM  

WTFDYW: A little garlic salt on popcorn is heaven. Don't even need butter.


I had a recipe for popcorn that I lost. I need to attempt to recreated it. It called for popping corn in vegetable oil and then tossing it with a mixture of garlic salt, sage, parmesan cheese a tad of dry mustard and white pepper. I cannot remember the proportions. It was delicious.
 
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2012-10-16 11:13:58 AM  
We (the country) would be better off if lawsuit judgments for future medical bills were put in a trust, or turned into an annuity. And if you sell any interest in your annuity for any purpose other than it was intended, it is revoked and we break the buyer's kneecaps.
 
2012-10-16 11:16:29 AM  
I went to Jr. High and High School with a girl who had to bizarre things happen in her life where she ended up suing people and won. Yes, daddy was a lawyer, but that does not really matter in this case.

1st lawsuit - When she was like 8 years old, some drunk in a parking lot backed over her and crushed one of her legs. The guy was sued and she got like $3M out of it. The guy was some well loved, small business owner in the community, so he had a few bucks. She needed all kinds of reconstructive surgery, and even as an adult, she had a deep gash and several pin and scar marks on her leg.

2nd lawsuit - Her and a few friends got into a classmates car (high schoolers), The driver - a teenage boy being a teenage boy apparently thought that driving like a total asshole = all teh free pussy in the world. Needless to say, he rolled the car, and she was in a coma for weeks. She was wearing her seat belt, but because of the way the car slid off the road, and got wrapped around a tree, she was the only one who was severely injured. I remember this accident very clearly, it took the rescue crews something like 6 hours to free her, they had to be careful because of how magled and "one with the car and tree" she had become. She sued his insurance company, the parents home owners insurance, the family, ect. She got something like $10M when it was all said and done.

So, girl before the age of 20 has "earned" $13M right? She blew through all her cash in college and now at close to the age of 30, is dirt farking poor. She works as a pet groomer earing like $12 an hour at Petsmart or something like that.
 
2012-10-16 11:16:52 AM  

ongbok:
I pretty sure that they kept changing what they wanted based on what they saw on T.V. People are like this. One of my friends owns a home remolding company and he has told me about several jobs he was contracted to do that should have gone 6 months tops, that ended up going 2+ years because of the home owners constant revisions.


Yup. Another article explains that they had the builder pretty much start over at least once.
 
2012-10-16 11:17:57 AM  
Even with popcorn lung, I think 2 chicks at the same time would be doable.

May end up broke but would always have the memory.
 
2012-10-16 11:19:30 AM  
ElwoodCuse: Hmmmm, so they had a settlement but they need cash now?

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I really hate those commercials. All I think of is some moron selling his settlement for pennies on the dollar. Like his $500 a month settlement that he'll get for 20 years, but sells it for 10k and is broke in 6 months. Just like the people who get title loans at 400 % interest.
 
2012-10-16 11:20:32 AM  

Johnnyflash: In their part of the country, 400k will get you a ridicules house on 20 acres. Another 100k for cars and ATVs, maybe 50k to furnish a 3000 square foot house, and 10k for a nice tractor with a brush hog. So let's assume they got 5 million after everything, and went through a million getting their new home set up, a vacation, and helping out some family and friends. So they are left with 4 million to invest and live off the interest, they should get well over 100k a year easy to live off of, that would be more then sufficient to pay the bills since the house is paid for, and anything else they may need. Then they have a safety net for when their health starts to decline because of the damage. So like others have stated, they probably were not the brightest and are easily duped. Too bad, such a waste that could have set them for life.


Would you be willing to take Ben Bernanke's job?
You seem to understand much better.
 
2012-10-16 11:21:48 AM  

RDixon: Even with popcorn lung, I think 2 chicks at the same time would be doable.

May end up broke but would always have the memory.


By the time you are old enough to afford it, it just seems like too much work.
 
2012-10-16 11:34:05 AM  
Endive Wombat: I went to Jr. High and High School with a girl who had to bizarre things happen in her life where she ended up suing people and won. Yes, daddy was a lawyer, but that does not really matter in this case.

1st lawsuit - When she was like 8 years old, some drunk in a parking lot backed over her and crushed one of her legs. The guy was sued and she got like $3M out of it. The guy was some well loved, small business owner in the community, so he had a few bucks. She needed all kinds of reconstructive surgery, and even as an adult, she had a deep gash and several pin and scar marks on her leg.

2nd lawsuit - Her and a few friends got into a classmates car (high schoolers), The driver - a teenage boy being a teenage boy apparently thought that driving like a total asshole = all teh free pussy in the world. Needless to say, he rolled the car, and she was in a coma for weeks. She was wearing her seat belt, but because of the way the car slid off the road, and got wrapped around a tree, she was the only one who was severely injured. I remember this accident very clearly, it took the rescue crews something like 6 hours to free her, they had to be careful because of how magled and "one with the car and tree" she had become. She sued his insurance company, the parents home owners insurance, the family, ect. She got something like $10M when it was all said and done.

So, girl before the age of 20 has "earned" $13M right? She blew through all her cash in college and now at close to the age of 30, is dirt farking poor. She works as a pet groomer earing like $12 an hour at Petsmart or something like that.


I guess daddy didn't teach her how to manage money, but I would have loved dating her as a teenager. Hey baby, I need this new Mustang 5.0, it's sweet. Hey baby, I need a new CBR. Hey baby, I need this Viking outfit. And on and on.

Sounds like she needs a new bazaar accident, perhaps send her a message saying something like, "be careful with those animal hair clippers, make sure a piece doesn't break off and cut you and leave a nasty scar". Then she'll dwell on what you told her and it will eventually happen and she'll get another few million. Then send her number my way cause I really like the new Mustangs.
 
2012-10-16 11:34:19 AM  

TV's Vinnie:
I'm sure somewhere, there's truly rich guy reading this on his yacht and saying "See, Lovey? This is why the peasants shouldn't be allowed have any real money. They just would not know what to with it like we do."

 

I dunno about that, but realistically, it's certainly possible to get rich if you're a fool or you're naive. What's much harder is to stay rich if you're a fool or you're naive. I don't think these people are stupid, just naive and inexperienced, and that plus money is a recipe for trouble.
 
2012-10-16 11:38:29 AM  
snocone: Johnnyflash: In their part of the country, 400k will get you a ridicules house on 20 acres. Another 100k for cars and ATVs, maybe 50k to furnish a 3000 square foot house, and 10k for a nice tractor with a brush hog. So let's assume they got 5 million after everything, and went through a million getting their new home set up, a vacation, and helping out some family and friends. So they are left with 4 million to invest and live off the interest, they should get well over 100k a year easy to live off of, that would be more then sufficient to pay the bills since the house is paid for, and anything else they may need. Then they have a safety net for when their health starts to decline because of the damage. So like others have stated, they probably were not the brightest and are easily duped. Too bad, such a waste that could have set them for life.

Would you be willing to take Ben Bernanke's job?
You seem to understand much better.


Sure, if I only had his connections...
 
2012-10-16 11:40:54 AM  

IAMTHEINTARWEBS: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: ZAZ: Better story: http://www.kansas.com/2012/10/15/2533401/missouri-couple-bankrupt-eig h t.html.

Their lawyers took 35%. They may have had to share some of the rest with other workers. Apparently they were conned into spending $4 million to build a $400,000 house. That's government contractor grade overrun there.

Fill in the blanks: "A ________ and his _________ are soon parted."

No different than those lottery winners you read about who wind up broke a few years after hitting it big. Unless you have experience handling that sort of money, or you have someone trustworthy advising you, then the old proverb invariably applies.

I have to disagree. The amount of money means nothing. It is all about budgeting based on income. If you have X amount of income, don't sign up for more than X amount of outlfow.

Money handling skills aren't based on the size of the principle.

Non-lawsuit payout recipient/non lottery winners go broke all the time.


I agree to a certain extent, but I think people in these situations tend to overestimate just how far their new-found wealth will take them. They see a lot of zeroes on the check, and start thinking that they're in the stratosphere of living standards. Spent and invested wisely, $20 million is more than enough for a married couple to live comfortably for many years. It's not nearly enough for you have the 20,000-square foot mansion and the 140 foot yacht with a pair of gold-plated jet-skis on the back. You're not going to live the Donald Trump/Richard Branson lifestyle on $20 million. Or even $200 million, if you're a real lottery winner instead of a lawsuit-lottery winner.
 
2012-10-16 11:56:11 AM  

Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: No different than those lottery winners you read about who wind up broke a few years after hitting it big. Unless you have experience handling that sort of money, or you have someone trustworthy advising you, then the old proverb invariably applies.


Some say the same is true of welfare. When you dump money on people, it goes to booze, cigarettes, cable TV and fancy athletic shoes.

Not that I'm against those things, but maybe not on the taxpayer's dime.
 
2012-10-16 11:56:38 AM  

WarszawaScream: I use this sucker here and I love it; coworker bought it for me for Christmas a few years ago because I was always buying little bags of popcorn. Just add a pad of butter or some olive oil, toss the kernels in there and microwave away.


If you look at the "Customers Who Viewed This Item Also Viewed" section you'll see two listings for the Presto PowerPop. Both of them have better reviews than your popper but that's not the point I'm making. There are different review ratings on them. The people who bought the $16.88 PowerPop didn't like it quite as much as the people who purchased the $19.12 PowerPop. Did the people who got the more expensive PowerPop think they had to give it a better rating because they paid more for the same device?
 
2012-10-16 11:57:54 AM  
...a VCR, a microwave oven and $50 worth of camera equipment.

Livin' large.
 
2012-10-16 11:59:54 AM  

Snargi: WarszawaScream: I use this sucker here and I love it; coworker bought it for me for Christmas a few years ago because I was always buying little bags of popcorn. Just add a pad of butter or some olive oil, toss the kernels in there and microwave away.

If you look at the "Customers Who Viewed This Item Also Viewed" section you'll see two listings for the Presto PowerPop. Both of them have better reviews than your popper but that's not the point I'm making. There are different review ratings on them. The people who bought the $16.88 PowerPop didn't like it quite as much as the people who purchased the $19.12 PowerPop. Did the people who got the more expensive PowerPop think they had to give it a better rating because they paid more for the same device?


Possibly. Over the years, I've determined the "star rating" of a product isn't a good gauge of its quality. You just have to read the reviews and compare them subjectively.
 
2012-10-16 12:12:14 PM  
I'm feeling slow today, so maybe I'm missing something.

They have 33,000 in assets and own a house worth 700,000.

They have total liabilities of 633,000.

Why are they filing for bankruptcy? Sell the house, pay off the debt. No bankruptcy needed.
 
2012-10-16 12:29:39 PM  

DaCaptain19: Ed 'Too Tall' Jones: ZAZ: Better story: http://www.kansas.com/2012/10/15/2533401/missouri-couple-bankrupt-eig h t.html.

Their lawyers took 35%. They may have had to share some of the rest with other workers. Apparently they were conned into spending $4 million to build a $400,000 house. That's government contractor grade overrun there.

Fill in the blanks: "A ________ and his _________ are soon parted."

No different than those lottery winners you read about who wind up broke a few years after hitting it big. Unless you have experience handling that sort of money, or you have someone trustworthy advising you, then the old proverb invariably applies.

Lottery winners? That's a chance occurrence. How about an example of people earning ridiculous wages who go bankrupt? I'm talking, of course, about professional athletes.

Give me a "mere" 1 million...I'll never have to work again and I'll die very rich.

Of course, I'm 86.

Srsly though, WTF.


I've been hearing a lot of talk about the pro athletes lately. Especially in the NFL. Many (the vast majority, apparently) are broker than a two dollar watch. Money goes out faster than it comes in. Nobody bothers to teach them how to manage their finances. Nobody explains to them that they need to make 5 years of income last 50-60 years. In some rare cases, they manage to pull in the pro money for 10 years before their body falls apart. Maybe a dozen a year manage to retire into commentators' jobs or make a video game deal or get a coaching gig. But most have to make 5 years' income last a lifetime, not to mention supporting the wife and putting the kids thru college.
 
2012-10-16 12:32:26 PM  

Thudfark: awfulawful: Now I have that Jethro Tull song, Popcorn Lung, stuck in my head. Thanks a bunch, Subby.

Sitting on a park bench,
Hacking out my right lung,
I'm truly spent


You forgot a line.
zipmeme.com
 
2012-10-16 12:37:47 PM  

Johnnyflash: Endive Wombat: I went to Jr. High and High School with a girl who had to bizarre things happen in her life where she ended up suing people and won. Yes, daddy was a lawyer, but that does not really matter in this case.

1st lawsuit -
2nd lawsuit -
So, girl before the age of 20 has "earned" $13M right? She blew through all her cash in college and now at close to the age of 30, is dirt farking poor. She works as a pet groomer earing like $12 an hour at Petsmart or something like that.

I guess daddy didn't teach her how to manage money, but I would have loved dating her as a teenager. Hey baby, I need this new Mustang 5.0, it's sweet. Hey baby, I need a new CBR. Hey baby, I need this Viking outfit. And on and on.

Sounds like she needs a new bazaar accident, perhaps send her a message saying something like, "be careful with those animal hair clip ...


Naw, there's no money to be made in flea-market accidents. Much better luck at the mall. Just ask Lucky.
 
2012-10-16 12:41:22 PM  

jtown: I've been hearing a lot of talk about the pro athletes lately. Especially in the NFL. Many (the vast majority, apparently) are broker than a two dollar watch. Money goes out faster than it comes in. Nobody bothers to teach them how to manage their finances. Nobody explains to them that they need to make 5 years of income last 50-60 years. In some rare cases, they manage to pull in the pro money for 10 years before their body falls apart. Maybe a dozen a year manage to retire into commentators' jobs or make a video game deal or get a coaching gig. But most have to make 5 years' income last a lifetime, not to mention supporting the wife and putting the kids thru college.


I gotta say, I am really surprised that the NFL does not have some kind of forced savings/retirement account for these guys, knowing the financial failure rate among the players...
 
2012-10-16 12:58:34 PM  

Endive Wombat: jtown: I've been hearing a lot of talk about the pro athletes lately. Especially in the NFL. Many (the vast majority, apparently) are broker than a two dollar watch. Money goes out faster than it comes in. Nobody bothers to teach them how to manage their finances. Nobody explains to them that they need to make 5 years of income last 50-60 years. In some rare cases, they manage to pull in the pro money for 10 years before their body falls apart. Maybe a dozen a year manage to retire into commentators' jobs or make a video game deal or get a coaching gig. But most have to make 5 years' income last a lifetime, not to mention supporting the wife and putting the kids thru college.

I gotta say, I am really surprised that the NFL does not have some kind of forced savings/retirement account for these guys, knowing the financial failure rate among the players...


I'm not. Largely because the discussion would go like this:

League: A lot of players mismanage their money and end up broke, so we propose a savings plan.
Players: What? That's racist, man, what are you saying just because a boy's from the projects he doesn't know how to save a dollar?
League: This is intended for all of you people, given the history of poverty among reti---
Agents: What do you mean you people? This is a totally racist cash grab by the league!

Then the 'PA votes down the proposal, and the players continue to be screwed out of millions by making bad investments in their agents' friends' enterprises. Or by putting spinnaz on a 40' double-decker hummer limo.
 
2012-10-16 01:01:02 PM  
Getting big money is great but failing to realize that you are not bringing in millions in income to replenish huge buys is stupid.
 
2012-10-16 01:04:59 PM  
and they warn u that there's no such thing as second hand fat
 
2012-10-16 01:07:59 PM  

Endive Wombat: jtown: I've been hearing a lot of talk about the pro athletes lately. Especially in the NFL. Many (the vast majority, apparently) are broker than a two dollar watch. Money goes out faster than it comes in. Nobody bothers to teach them how to manage their finances. Nobody explains to them that they need to make 5 years of income last 50-60 years. In some rare cases, they manage to pull in the pro money for 10 years before their body falls apart. Maybe a dozen a year manage to retire into commentators' jobs or make a video game deal or get a coaching gig. But most have to make 5 years' income last a lifetime, not to mention supporting the wife and putting the kids thru college.

I gotta say, I am really surprised that the NFL does not have some kind of forced savings/retirement account for these guys, knowing the financial failure rate among the players...


The NFL has a pension plain. They qualify if they played for at least 4 years and can start drawing as soon as 55. There are also some medical benefits now for long term treatment of football related injuries. Probably not enough, but it is a start, lookup NFL Player Care
 
2012-10-16 01:13:11 PM  

Lord Farkwad: Thudfark: awfulawful: Now I have that Jethro Tull song, Popcorn Lung, stuck in my head. Thanks a bunch, Subby.

Sitting on a park bench,
Hacking out my right lung,
I'm truly spent

You forgot a line.
[zipmeme.com image 450x675]


3 lines is 3 lines. I thought popcorn lung would have been unnecessary
 
2012-10-16 01:19:01 PM  

GranoblasticMan: Snargi: WarszawaScream: I use this sucker here and I love it; coworker bought it for me for Christmas a few years ago because I was always buying little bags of popcorn. Just add a pad of butter or some olive oil, toss the kernels in there and microwave away.

If you look at the "Customers Who Viewed This Item Also Viewed" section you'll see two listings for the Presto PowerPop. Both of them have better reviews than your popper but that's not the point I'm making. There are different review ratings on them. The people who bought the $16.88 PowerPop didn't like it quite as much as the people who purchased the $19.12 PowerPop. Did the people who got the more expensive PowerPop think they had to give it a better rating because they paid more for the same device?

Possibly. Over the years, I've determined the "star rating" of a product isn't a good gauge of its quality. You just have to read the reviews and compare them subjectively.


Not trying to get into this too deeply ... it really is three hunks of plastic and a little disposable tray (the Presto unit). But the tray, like the pads in microwave bags, heat up like a frying pan and pops the corn like it is on the stovetop. I'm sure the microwaves contribute as well but I think the tray helps.

Whatever works for you. I was just giving a recommendation for something I have and find is very simple and works well for me.
 
2012-10-16 01:57:22 PM  
Stupid people will usually be broke, no matter how much money they are given. (Bush/Hilton families excluded.)
 
2012-10-16 02:08:09 PM  
Wealth redistribution works!
 
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