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(Toronto Star)   Because they worked so well throughout the early 2000s, Canadian newspapers decide to start erecting paywalls to "boost revenue"   (thestar.com) divider line 22
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2012-10-16 12:32:51 AM  
$20 a month ought to boost their total revenues by about $20 a month.

This paywall shiat is getting tiresome. Soon Fark will consist of only links to shiatty blogs.
 
2012-10-16 12:45:03 AM  
The Orlando Sentinel just started doing that too, you get like 5 stories a month to read before you have to start paying. You know what I do when I get that block message? Same thing everyone else does, go find another site to read.
 
2012-10-16 12:48:28 AM  
The major local paper in Phoenix has gone to a paywall after 20 articles. Something like $10 per month for regurgitated AP articles. I'm sure the loyal advertisers are thrilled that the page views will tank and then tank even more at the end of the month.

Now if they would do some kind of weekly, local grocery store pricing comparisons, I'd be all in, but then they would lose ALL of their major advertisers. Give the audience some real incentive or new useful products and I'm sure these paywall paper concepts would be more successful.
 
2012-10-16 01:34:17 AM  

azmoviez: The major local paper in Phoenix has gone to a paywall after 20 articles. Something like $10 per month for regurgitated AP articles. I'm sure the loyal advertisers are thrilled that the page views will tank and then tank even more at the end of the month.

Now if they would do some kind of weekly, local grocery store pricing comparisons, I'd be all in, but then they would lose ALL of their major advertisers. Give the audience some real incentive or new useful products and I'm sure these paywall paper concepts would be more successful.


I wouldn't mind paying a small monthly amount for my local news, but those farkers want (I believe) $15 a month for me to have to wade through a pile of obituaries and high school sports garbage for the 5-10 articles I care about in a given month. As you mention, there's also lots of regurgitated AP news, which if I'm going to pay for, I'll pay AP, thank you very much.

It's really unbelievable. Again I don't mind paying *what it's worth* but when 2/3 of the article is opinion by some local guy who's never left the state, I'm not willing to pay very much. Shame, too, because I'd like to get a little more connected to the community here, but I doubt it will ever happen since I'm not a conservative who likes sports and complaining about politics in public.
 
2012-10-16 01:56:42 AM  
Great, now I'll have to go to the CBC site to get my fill of left-wing nut-job comments. Right-wing nut-job comments are still free at the National Post.
 
2012-10-16 02:22:01 AM  

azmoviez: The major local paper in Phoenix has gone to a paywall after 20 articles. Something like $10 per month for regurgitated AP articles. I'm sure the loyal advertisers are thrilled that the page views will tank and then tank even more at the end of the month.

Now if they would do some kind of weekly, local grocery store pricing comparisons, I'd be all in, but then they would lose ALL of their major advertisers. Give the audience some real incentive or new useful products and I'm sure these paywall paper concepts would be more successful.


It's actually all Gannett papers, not just AZ Central.

You know that you can just pull up the paper in incognito mode and bypass the cookie paywall, right?
 
2012-10-16 02:36:21 AM  
What's awesome is how the content you get on the other side of the paywall is 100% the same Reuters and AP stories you get from non-paywall sites.

Don't like paying fo rnews from the Local Tribune? Google the preview headline, you'll find it free somewhere else.

If they were doing anything original that was worth actually paying for, I'd pay for it.
 
2012-10-16 02:37:10 AM  

azmoviez: The major local paper in Phoenix has gone to a paywall after 20 articles. Something like $10 per month for regurgitated AP articles. I'm sure the loyal advertisers are thrilled that the page views will tank and then tank even more at the end of the month.


The Milwaukee paper did the same thing this spring. The first two months I hit the limit each time. Last month I got the "15 articles left" warning message around the 27th. They have successfully weaned me off their site. Hope that was what they were going for.
 
2012-10-16 02:56:20 AM  
What a paywall MAY look like:

www.litkicks.com
 
2012-10-16 03:01:58 AM  
A paywall works if you're the New York Times (though there are some fairly easy ways of getting around it, like going to private browsing) and have content worth paying for.

When you're PoS local paper trying to charge as much as or more than the Times, just go ahead and fold already.
 
2012-10-16 05:52:01 AM  
Paywalls, increasing use of video links instead of actual written content, the lack of editing and proofreading, the copy/paste parts of AP articles, and the lack of depth are all reasons why I spend less time on-line. I generally like meat to my news stories, so NPR and the Christian Science Monitor's free site are my go-to news places. For headlines, I scan Google news. And then often wind up with the dreck described in my first sentence.
 
2012-10-16 07:22:36 AM  
Good bye Globe and Mail it was nice reading you, especially for the right-wing trolls.

/George Brown must be rolling in his grave, or not.
 
2012-10-16 08:15:02 AM  
Ad walls might work, might even help, if the ads are tuned to the article subject matter. Paywalls flat out don't work.
 
2012-10-16 09:19:14 AM  
They must somehow work. Everyone sat back and watched NYT to see what would happen.

If they are changing over now, the revenues must be better than what they lose on ad impressions for free content.
 
2012-10-16 11:18:19 AM  
wont clearing cookies and history reset your count?
 
2012-10-16 11:36:21 AM  
I used to be able to watch news or weather videos on NY1. Now Time Warner has decreed you must be a cable customer (theirs) to be able to do so.

News orgs may eventually get their way.
 
2012-10-16 12:02:29 PM  

RoyBatty: It's actually all Gannett papers, not just AZ Central.


Like it or not, Gannett's Q3 earnings statement reported an increase in newspaper circulation revenue for the first time since 2007, "helped by digital subscription growth."

If Gannett can make money by putting their crappy papers behind a paywall, anybody can.
 
2012-10-16 01:03:50 PM  
Trying to preserve what you are currently doing is going to be as effective as people who walked around London with clocks telling the time once pocket watches became reasonably cheap. You no longer have the restriction of massive costs of printing presses or the limited range that distributors can provide keeping the competition away. I can set up a rival news outlet in minutes, for free. I can have advertising running on the same day. If I grab a scoop and it gets linked around the net, I'll make some reasonable money.

The only thing that makes any money is good, unique content now.

Which is why I think that it's actually possible for "content" to make money, but it has to be fragmented. If you told me I had to pay $5-10 a year to read Roger Ebert's reviews, I'd pay it. If you told me I had to pay $5/week to read the Chicago Sun-Times, of which I pretty much only care about Roger Ebert, I wouldn't. The whole concept of a daily newspaper done digitally is just dumb as a pile of rocks. That was created because of the limitations of the technology, not because it was the best form. The best form is article or section based, which is why most of the "new media" is actually based around a particular subject, like Gizmodo or Pocket-Lint.
 
2012-10-16 01:40:18 PM  
Our big local paper went to paywall after 10 local articles. Or no limits if you don't run their scripts...
 
2012-10-16 01:54:10 PM  

Confabulat: The Orlando Sentinel just started doing that too, you get like 5 stories a month to read before you have to start paying. You know what I do when I get that block message? Same thing everyone else does, go find another site to read.


Switching to private/incognito browsing mode works, too.
 
2012-10-16 03:03:06 PM  
As my system tells the paywalls, "these are not the cookies you are looking for". Since I delete cookies on browser close. So no cookie to say you've been there already.

/Next up: Paywalls via IP address and how using a shared by hundreds of people address(cell tower or wireless ISP) makes sure that you can no longer have a look for free.
//Some other news sites: "Why my links that I forward to others no work!!!!?/??!!?1?" Cause you did not delete that little "?R=1" off of the web address. Read once and then pay up sucka.
 
2012-10-17 12:12:22 PM  

Handsome B. Wonderful: Great, now I'll have to go to the CBC site to get my fill of left-wing nut-job comments. Right-wing nut-job comments are still free at the National Post.


Plenty of right-wing nutjobs at The Globe as well - just go into any McGuinty thread. They just get downvoted.
 
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