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2012-10-15 06:47:14 PM  
Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.
 
2012-10-15 06:52:29 PM  
Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.
 
2012-10-15 06:54:24 PM  

St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.


Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.
 
2012-10-15 06:57:49 PM  

tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.


Why local? It's the latest hipster thing.
 
2012-10-15 07:17:29 PM  

tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.


I go either where the coffee is good or wherever is convenient (tends to be the overly expensive, not-so-great shop in the student union unfortunately), but I do love this coffee shop at the mall in the next town over. Unfortunately I hate taking I64 (because I lack a death wish), so I don't get there very often. I'm only meh on Starbucks. Generally, I don't go for the coffee, just for the coconut frappucinos in the summer.
 
2012-10-15 07:24:19 PM  

Luthien's Tempest: tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.

I go either where the coffee is good or wherever is convenient (tends to be the overly expensive, not-so-great shop in the student union unfortunately), but I do love this coffee shop at the mall in the next town over. Unfortunately I hate taking I64 (because I lack a death wish), so I don't get there very often. I'm only meh on Starbucks. Generally, I don't go for the coffee, just for the coconut frappucinos in the summer.


I'm not a fan of Starbucks coffee, it always tastes burnt. It's expensive too, which might be forgivable if it was good.
 
2012-10-15 08:03:32 PM  

St_Francis_P: Luthien's Tempest: tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.

I go either where the coffee is good or wherever is convenient (tends to be the overly expensive, not-so-great shop in the student union unfortunately), but I do love this coffee shop at the mall in the next town over. Unfortunately I hate taking I64 (because I lack a death wish), so I don't get there very often. I'm only meh on Starbucks. Generally, I don't go for the coffee, just for the coconut frappucinos in the summer.

I'm not a fan of Starbucks coffee, it always tastes burnt. It's expensive too, which might be forgivable if it was good.


Exactly. My mom and my sister look at me funny when I say that. Their coconut frappucinos are crack though... I've racked up points on my card with them just through getting the frappucinos. Once fall hits, I'll drive my sister to the Starbucks and not order anything, and then I get chastised. Makes me sad that my free birthday drink expires before summer.

But for straight coffee or latte-like drinks, I usually go to Dunkin Donuts. They're relatively cheap and they taste better. And the temp agency I used to work for gave out $5 dunkin gift cards for monthly rewards.
 
2012-10-15 08:09:11 PM  
Starbucks will be opening a slew of stores around the country that are strictly drive-thru and walk-up only, in an eco-friendly experiment.

I question the "eco-friendly" aspect of this plan. Sure, the stores are built from recycled snow fences or distressed barn wood or whatever, but Starbucks is now encouraging people to sit in line wasting gas idling their vehicles. Also don't think the "walk-up" window is going to be very busy if it's raining or freezing outside.
 
2012-10-15 09:28:29 PM  

St_Francis_P: Luthien's Tempest: tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.

I go either where the coffee is good or wherever is convenient (tends to be the overly expensive, not-so-great shop in the student union unfortunately), but I do love this coffee shop at the mall in the next town over. Unfortunately I hate taking I64 (because I lack a death wish), so I don't get there very often. I'm only meh on Starbucks. Generally, I don't go for the coffee, just for the coconut frappucinos in the summer.

I'm not a fan of Starbucks coffee, it always tastes burnt. It's expensive too, which might be forgivable if it was good.


I'd rather pay more for good coffee. Tried Dunkin Donuts coffee once after someone was raving about it. Ugggh! Smells like bad gas station coffee.

The usual: Venti Cafe Mocha - nonfat, no whip.... add a shot of espresso for the wake up kick. Good stuff.
 
2012-10-15 09:41:59 PM  

tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.


YOU CAN ONLY GO TO COOL PLACES. No one cares if you like it. Don't you want to be current with the trends?
 
2012-10-15 10:54:32 PM  

tukatz: Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.


Hey, it's a legitimate strategy. Besides, their frappuchinos are amazing. Especially chocolate chip.
 
2012-10-15 11:05:53 PM  
The only time I drink their so-so coffee is when I need wi-fi on the road. If it wasn't for the seating I'd never go to a Starbucks.

/ Not a hipster
// Old fat guy
///Not doing anything for their image
 
2012-10-15 11:12:12 PM  

St_Francis_P: I'm not a fan of Starbucks coffee, it always tastes burnt


I always preferred Millstone and SBC exactly for that reason. Too bad Millstone got sold to P&G (quality nosedived) and SBC never caught on. But the dude who founded Millstone went on to open Cascade Coffee company. I need to try some of their stuff.


tukatz: Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.


Depends on how long you stay there. When I travel through western Europe, I often hit up the nearest Starbucks to connect to their WiFi. I get a grande so I have enough bean juice to last until I am done with email and downloading maps to my smartphone. 15-20 minutes at most. Is that camping?
 
2012-10-15 11:14:36 PM  
But where else are they going to go to show off their expensive new iProduct?
 
2012-10-15 11:19:34 PM  
I can see their side, but on the other hand, who would pay that much for a (badly prepared) coffee just to take with you?
 
2012-10-15 11:21:29 PM  
I'm a fan of Dunkin Donuts coffee. But their breakfast sandwiches have so much grease in them it'll cover your hand in grease if you hold it. Those things must have 5000 calories or more in them.

Starbucks coffee taste horrible for the price they charge you. Their frozen summer drinks are good though.
 
2012-10-15 11:28:07 PM  
as long ass they keep the logo on the coffee cup, they'll be fine.

people don't go to starbucks for the crappy coffee, they go so they can show people they went to starbucks.
 
2012-10-15 11:36:41 PM  
Ok, then what is Starbucks for? Their whole business plan was to:

1) attract a set of trendy consumers, and make them visible
2) turn a cup of their coffee into a cheap to acquire status symbol
3) ??????
4) profit

Either they lost sight of that, or they figure they've had their time in the sun and they're going to cash in on the existing brand identity. If it's the latter then it's a good choice, they maximize throughput and minimize both expenses and the destruction of that brand identity by removing a bunch of folks that probably reflect poorly on the brand. I actually hope that what this is, I think too many companies double down when they should be looking for a clean exit.
 
2012-10-15 11:41:05 PM  

hackalope: Ok, then what is Starbucks for? Their whole business plan was to:


It's not replacing. It's improving efficiency for both the people who want to grab and go and those who want to sit down and write their screenplays.
 
2012-10-15 11:53:03 PM  

had98c: tukatz: Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.

Hey, it's a legitimate strategy. Besides, their frappuchinos are amazing. Especially chocolate chip.


I do enjoy an occasional Frappachino.... also add a shot of espresso to those as it cuts the sweetness a bit and gives even more caffeine goodness.

Couldn't imagine sitting for hours in a coffee shop in hopes someone will see me there and tell others that I was there. I just don't understand how staying inside is cool.
 
2012-10-15 11:55:33 PM  

Spanky_McFarksalot: as long ass they keep the logo on the coffee cup, they'll be fine.

people don't go to starbucks for the crappy coffee, they go so they can show people they went to starbucks.



Wow, I am so failing by going through the drivethru and leaving right after.... as are the many people behind me.

The shop I go to most of the time averages about 100 drinks per hours during the busy times. I think someone likes their coffee.
 
2012-10-16 12:00:40 AM  

tukatz: Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.


There was a thing called a diner. Lots of people learned higher college math at tables late into the night. The waitresses would chase after the mathy patrons on their way out..."hey mister, don't you want these" while holding up placemats and napkins covered in partial differential equations and lots of other mathy goodies...

For a minute there, the air smelled sweet in here...like the blast of early morning cool you got when you walked outside giddy from hours of mathiness.
 
2012-10-16 12:11:23 AM  

had98c: tukatz: Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.

Hey, it's a legitimate strategy. Besides, their frappuchinos are amazing. Especially chocolate chip.


Here's a tip, try the McDonalds chocolate chip frappuchinos, just as good if not better and slightly cheaper.
 
2012-10-16 12:18:43 AM  
Dunkin Donuts and / or 7-11, best coffee ever. Both are roasted by S&D Coffee in Concord, NC. Company store is about three miles from me. But I buy Dunkin blend.
 
2012-10-16 12:24:15 AM  

tukatz: Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.


Don'r forget the dude in the corner, intently watching all of them every day, while appearing to be engrossed in posting on a news aggregator site, attempting to discern what their vocation is, or if they even have one.
 
2012-10-16 12:33:09 AM  
I don't like coffee shops. Never really wanted to hang out in them. But I'm friends with Penny Wiggins who plays Psychic Tanya at the Amazing Johnathan show in Las Vegas, and every Sunday for a couple of years I'd hang out with them at a Starbucks down the street from my house. Never drank the coffee, though.

/csb
 
2012-10-16 12:36:58 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: tukatz: Good. The same people seem to be in the same seats every day.... there's the guy in the business suit with a laptop who tries to look important while talking on his phone... yet doesn't appear to work anywhere. And the giggly college girls sitting at the same table, but too busy texting on their phones to speak to each other. Throw in the homeless guy that waits for people to leave half-consumed drinks for him when they leave. And the random female wearing scrubs... trying to look impatient as she waits.... who most likely doesn't have a job in a medical field.

Starbucks is for coffee and snacks.... not camping.

Don'r forget the dude in the corner, intently watching all of them every day, while appearing to be engrossed in posting on a news aggregator site, attempting to discern what their vocation is, or if they even have one.


Yeah, I'm trying to figure out under what circumstances someone would stand around in a Starbucks wearing medical scrubs, yet not work in a medical field.
 
2012-10-16 12:50:10 AM  

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: The only time I drink their so-so coffee is when I need wi-fi on the road. If it wasn't for the seating I'd never go to a Starbucks.

/ Not a hipster
// Old fat guy
///Not doing anything for their image


Yup, stop by my local one a couple of times a week to grab a beverage and use the wi-fi on a phone that's smarter than I am. Sometimes the one in the mall to ogle the girls as well. Yup, TOTALLY creepy old man. farkk you, sue me!
 
2012-10-16 01:02:33 AM  
The only reason I go to Starbucks is because I can't get any work done at home, with all the distractions. I go to Starbucks with my baby netbook so I can buy a latte, sit down, and force myself to get in some work. I'm on good terms with the baristas at my local place, because I buy normal-sounding drinks, and I actually stop to chat at the register when it's slow. It's part of the neighborhood, not some truckstop, ferf*cksakes.

No comfortable chairs and tables? I'll go to another place that serves coffee and has chairs and tables.
 
2012-10-16 04:29:47 AM  
The best coffee I had in the USA (which was more than ten years ago) was at a franchised restaurant at the North Point Mall, in Alpharetta, GA. That was a pleasant surprise. Typical casual-dining restaurant, with the same menu than on every other restaurants around, but they had a real espresso machine, and made delicious coffee that was FAR better than anything my Starbucks or Cariboo Coffee.

Strange how things work, sometines.
 
2012-10-16 05:32:27 AM  
They make good espresso. I am not a huge fan of their brew. I do buy bags of beans to use in my french press. It's really the best way to make coffee other than perhaps an espresso machine to make Americanos (shots of espresso and hot water to approximate the strength of American style brewed coffee)
 
2012-10-16 06:05:20 AM  

reported: Starbucks will be opening a slew of stores ... in an eco-friendly experiment.

I question the "eco-friendly" aspect of this plan. ... but Starbucks is now encouraging people to sit in line wasting gas idling their vehicles. Also don't think the "walk-up" window is going to be very busy if it's raining or freezing outside.


I came to say the same thing. When I go to any place with a drive-through, if there's more than three cars in line, I'll usually go inside. And often be back out before the third or fourth car gets their order.

Also, it doesn't say if they will have public restrooms - I find I sometimes need to get rid of some coffee before I drink more.
 
2012-10-16 07:56:37 AM  

tukatz: I'd rather pay more for good coffee. Tried Dunkin Donuts coffee once after someone was raving about it. Ugggh! Smells like bad gas station coffee.


It is gas station coffee. Correction, some gas stations are better. If you want decent coffee from a chain, go to McDonalds, they want your coffee money. Panera is also awesome for coffee.

I go where the better coffee is, even if the only choice is McDonalds over Burger King. I would go to a good hipster style coffee shop if one was near me.

Good being the key word. One that roast their own beans. Live music would be nice.
 
2012-10-16 09:48:19 AM  

EbolaNYC: They make good espresso. I am not a huge fan of their brew.


I feel the same way. Their brewed coffee is some of the worst I've ever tasted. The espresso drinks are good, but they are basically just hot coffee flavored milk shakes at this point.
 
2012-10-16 10:10:59 AM  

tukatz: I think someone likes their coffee


No, they don't. they want to be seen with a starbucks logo.

no one likes their coffee.
 
2012-10-16 10:14:17 AM  

Xythero: EbolaNYC: They make good espresso. I am not a huge fan of their brew.

I feel the same way. Their brewed coffee is some of the worst I've ever tasted. The espresso drinks are good, but they are basically just hot coffee flavored milk shakes at this point.


I often get an extra shot in the cappuccino, too many people in this country don't get the ratio of coffee to milk. It's supposed to be 50/50 with foam on top. Otherwise, sometimes I cut to the chase and just get a double espresso, add a little cream and one sugar. Purists will claim I am ruining the espresso, but they can go fark themselves, I like it for when I want a cappuccino but don't have the time to enjoy it.
 
2012-10-16 10:35:55 AM  
I'm a coffee shop camper. I do it when I have work to do that can be done on my laptop (either job or hobby related, both are computers) and just feel like being elsewhere than my apartment. Sometimes my apartment is just too quiet and it can be fun to strike up a conversation with the random person sitting next to you who happens to be camping as well. I've walked a few blocks to sit down and SSH or VPN back to my home network. I go through a lot of coffee and the place will probably get at least two drinks out of me.
 
2012-10-16 10:54:27 AM  

EbolaNYC: Xythero: EbolaNYC: They make good espresso. I am not a huge fan of their brew.

I feel the same way. Their brewed coffee is some of the worst I've ever tasted. The espresso drinks are good, but they are basically just hot coffee flavored milk shakes at this point.

I often get an extra shot in the cappuccino, too many people in this country don't get the ratio of coffee to milk. It's supposed to be 50/50 with foam on top. Otherwise, sometimes I cut to the chase and just get a double espresso, add a little cream and one sugar. Purists will claim I am ruining the espresso, but they can go fark themselves, I like it for when I want a cappuccino but don't have the time to enjoy it.


americans will claim you're ruining the espresso. i've been in italy and saw people, heaven forbid, drink the coffee however the fark they wanted to.

/ espresso is best coffee
// some guy i know is trying to open a coffee place with the pour over coffee... never had it. i like coffee, but, like everything, scotch and barbecue included, we need to drop the high horse and get back to enjoying things because they taste good, not because they're supposed to taste good.
/// still happy to pay for what's good... but, not happy to be told how to enjoy myself.
 
2012-10-16 11:41:04 AM  
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2012-10-16 12:32:17 PM  

Luthien's Tempest: Their coconut frappucinos are crack though... I've racked up points on my card with them just through getting the frappucinos.


The frapps are the only reason for their existence, as far as I'm concerned. I can get much better coffee much closer to my apartment if I want something warm. If I want candy, Starbucks it is.
 
2012-10-16 01:22:01 PM  
I played a freebee gig with a band on Sunday for a breast cancer awareness event. One of the leaders of the group brought Starbucks coffee in one of those gallon boxes. It was absolutely the worst coffee I had ever tasted. My dad made better coffee on camping trips straining Folgers through a dirty sock. How did this company become so successful?
 
2012-10-16 02:58:23 PM  

tukatz: Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.


No, that would be Starbucks. Doesn't matter though, since they burn their beans so all the crappy flavors are nicely charred out.
 
2012-10-16 03:29:52 PM  

reported: Starbucks will be opening a slew of stores around the country that are strictly drive-thru and walk-up only, in an eco-friendly experiment.

I question the "eco-friendly" aspect of this plan. Sure, the stores are built from recycled snow fences or distressed barn wood or whatever, but Starbucks is now encouraging people to sit in line wasting gas idling their vehicles. Also don't think the "walk-up" window is going to be very busy if it's raining or freezing outside.


The walk-up can be indoors-- there just isn't any seating.
 
2012-10-16 09:15:02 PM  

tukatz: St_Francis_P: Trendsters? Starbucks hasn't been "cool" for at least five years. Local (non-chain) coffee shops are the thing.

Why? I go where I like the coffee. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :) Most local coffee joints use the cheapest coffee they can get from the local grocery store.


Change the scenario. Say someone says, "No Fear shirts haven't been cool for at least 15 years." You then respond, "Why? I wear what feels comfortable. Darn, I guess I'm not trendy. :)"

You're still both right.
 
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