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(New York Daily News)   Koch brothers send out mass-mailing to 45,000 Georgia-Pacific employees encouraging them to vote for Mitt Romney or "they will suffer the consequences"   (nydailynews.com) divider line 375
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2012-10-15 12:40:15 PM
www.threatormenace.com

you were made to be ruled!
 
2012-10-15 12:44:20 PM
www.sheepsheadbites.com

...as long as I'm rich!

/HASAN HOTLINK!
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2012-10-15 12:44:53 PM
Remember, the greatest threats to America are teachers, gays, and unions.

Not the billionaires who will outsource thousands of jobs if it made them slightly richer.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-15 12:50:13 PM
Serfs are supposed to obey their lords orders right?
 
2012-10-15 12:50:59 PM
I, for one, welcome our corporate overlords. We must all stand united as citizens to stand against the media in their attempt to silence the voices of our corporations!
 
2012-10-15 12:51:35 PM
because those jobs are created to be given to people. No company profit is necessary. Stop being so greedy you evil capitalist!

/sarcasm
 
2012-10-15 12:52:29 PM
There should be laws against this. It sucks that it has gotten to the point that we have to draft laws to keep people in power from intimidating those employees below them, but there should be laws against this kind of crap.
 
2012-10-15 12:52:32 PM

OtherLittleGuy: [www.sheepsheadbites.com image 585x420]

...as long as I'm rich!

/HASAN HOTLINK!


Dolt! You have desecrated the spirit of the lamp!

/I'm rich. I'm a happy miser...
 
2012-10-15 12:52:52 PM
Serfs up!
 
2012-10-15 12:52:55 PM

Weaver95: [www.threatormenace.com image 575x323]

you were made to be ruled!


Loki was such a mincing little twerp of a villain. That's my only beef with The Avengers.

Sorry, off topic. Um, the Koch Bros are farking assholes.
 
2012-10-15 12:52:57 PM
Yes, because the last few years under Obama have been so financially damaging to the Koch brothers:

m.static.newsvine.com
 
2012-10-15 12:55:04 PM

CommieTaoist: Yes, because the last few years under Obama have been so financially damaging to the Koch brothers:

[m.static.newsvine.com image 600x341]


That slope could be steeper.
 
2012-10-15 12:55:16 PM
If only guys like these two could get a farking break, we'd be awash in jobs and prosperity.

MBK: Remember, the greatest threats to America are teachers, gays, and unions.

Not the billionaires who will outsource thousands of jobs if it made them slightly richer.


i159.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-15 12:55:33 PM

MBK: Remember, the greatest threats to America are teachers, gays, and unions.

Not the billionaires who will outsource thousands of jobs if it made them slightly richer.


To be fair, they're right. Of course, their vision of America is pre-1800s.
 
2012-10-15 12:55:36 PM

Weaver95: [www.threatormenace.com image 575x323]

you were made to be ruled!


There are always men like you.
 
2012-10-15 12:56:53 PM

Mugato: Weaver95: [www.threatormenace.com image 575x323]

you were made to be ruled!

Loki was such a mincing little twerp of a villain. That's my only beef with The Avengers.

Sorry, off topic. Um, the Koch Bros are farking assholes.


that's ok, I think the Koch brothers are mincing little twerps of a villain as well, hence my use of that picture. when Obama gets re-elected, I suspect they'll throw and old skool temper tantrum and actually roll around on their $20k Persian carpets and cry/whine/beat fists against the floor.
 
2012-10-15 12:58:29 PM

CommieTaoist: Yes, because the last few years under Obama have been so financially damaging to the Koch brothers:


i think a lot of companies charts look like that. The accumulation of high net worth I think is directly tied to upcoming tax hikes. It would be irresponsible to not prepare for it.
 
2012-10-15 12:58:53 PM

SilentStrider: Weaver95: [www.threatormenace.com image 575x323]

you were made to be ruled!

There are always men like you.


There are no men like me, only me.
 
2012-10-15 01:00:55 PM
It'd be hilarious if some people voted for Romney and lose their jobs anyway, because they're too f*cking stupid to understand that this is just setting them up for later.
 
2012-10-15 01:05:15 PM

Aarontology: It'd be hilarious if some people voted for Romney and lose their jobs anyway, because they're too f*cking stupid to understand that this is just setting them up for later.


You mean like Freeport, Illinois?
 
2012-10-15 01:06:44 PM
Boycott



www.richardemagazine.com
 
2012-10-15 01:06:44 PM
"If we elect candidates who want to spend hundreds of billions in borrowed money on costly new subsidies for a few favored cronies

"Wait. I thought Mr. Koch wanted me to vote for Romney."
 
2012-10-15 01:07:00 PM
None of you can name a good reason that employers should not be allowed to cast votes on behalf of their employees, but you'll continue to vote Democrat, anyway. Lol.
 
2012-10-15 01:07:10 PM

RedPhoenix122: Aarontology: It'd be hilarious if some people voted for Romney and lose their jobs anyway, because they're too f*cking stupid to understand that this is just setting them up for later.

You mean like Freeport, Illinois?


Yep.

The American people are worth nothing to people like the Koch Brothers. They'd fire them all for an uptick in stock, then scream about how nothing is being done about the unemployed.
 
2012-10-15 01:08:07 PM
If Romney wins this November, then it's a signal that SuperPAC's work. It's a signal that lying your ass off and having no real ideas of your own works. It's a signal that changing the voting laws to tamp down the opposition's voters from voting works. Those are really dangerous precedents to set.
 
2012-10-15 01:08:44 PM
Have A Koch And Some Bile
 
2012-10-15 01:10:28 PM

Aarontology: RedPhoenix122: Aarontology: It'd be hilarious if some people voted for Romney and lose their jobs anyway, because they're too f*cking stupid to understand that this is just setting them up for later.

You mean like Freeport, Illinois?

Yep.

The American people are worth nothing to people like the Koch Brothers. They'd fire them all for an uptick in stock, then scream about how nothing is being done about the unemployed.


This is also why I hate the expression "the market will police itself"...technically, that's true, and yet, how many people will die before that happens? These assholes want to become a new ruling class, and don't care how many bodies they leave in their wake.
 
2012-10-15 01:10:40 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-15 01:12:16 PM
I was laughing at an Americans for Properity (the Koch's Super PAC) ad on the radio this weekend. It came on the heels of the PAC holding rallies in Orlando (for which they bused in people from Georgia). It said we need to put "grass roots pressure" on Obama. Then had the tagline "Paid for by Americans for Prosperity."

I told the radio to let me laugh harder.
 
2012-10-15 01:12:47 PM

CommieTaoist: Yes, because the last few years under Obama have been so financially damaging to the Koch brothers:

[m.static.newsvine.com image 600x341]


But remember: if you give money to the wealthy, they always use it to hire more people and create jobs.
 
2012-10-15 01:12:52 PM

RedPhoenix122: This is also why I hate the expression "the market will police itself"...technically, that's true, and yet, how many people will die before that happens? These assholes want to become a new ruling class, and don't care how many bodies they leave in their wake.


There's no incentive for the market to police itself. None at all. The folks are the very top are going to come out ahead no matter what happens.

If someone can make a few million of stock options while the company burns and hundreds of people lose their jobs people are going to do it because that's how it's set up. Hell, firing a ton of people will usually increase the stock price because of cost saving measures or whatever BS reasoning they use. What do they care about anything else? They'll just move onto the next investment.
 
2012-10-15 01:13:11 PM

CommieTaoist: Yes, because the last few years under Obama have been so financially damaging to the Koch brothers:

[m.static.newsvine.com image 600x341]


Who knew that exploiting the fears of conservatives was so damn lucrative?
 
2012-10-15 01:15:36 PM
If they are donating an obscene amount of money it means they are trying to hide some truth that's 10X more obscene.
 
2012-10-15 01:17:57 PM
Aren't there some sorts of laws on the books about coercing people's votes through threats of things like loss of a job?

As it is, it is bad enough how much power these two men have over the election due to buying their way all along. Threatening people to vote how they want them to just seems ridiculously over the top. If it is public knowledge they are doing this, can't something be done about it?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-15 01:18:32 PM

Aarontology: RedPhoenix122: This is also why I hate the expression "the market will police itself"...technically, that's true, and yet, how many people will die before that happens? These assholes want to become a new ruling class, and don't care how many bodies they leave in their wake.

There's no incentive for the market to police itself. None at all. The folks are the very top are going to come out ahead no matter what happens.

If someone can make a few million of stock options while the company burns and hundreds of people lose their jobs people are going to do it because that's how it's set up. Hell, firing a ton of people will usually increase the stock price because of cost saving measures or whatever BS reasoning they use. What do they care about anything else? They'll just move onto the next investment.


That's the problem. It used to be that the goal was to build a solid company over the long term and investors invested in companies that could pay dividends reliably. Now investing is more of a get rich quick scheme with no attempt at creating anything.
 
2012-10-15 01:19:33 PM

Makh: If they are donating an obscene amount of money it means they are trying to hide some truth that's 10X more obscene.


I wish the Smart button was enabled.
 
2012-10-15 01:19:48 PM
One of the best rules in storytelling is that the villain thinks he's the hero, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how these assholes believe they're the heroes in this tale.
 
2012-10-15 01:20:15 PM

vernonFL: Boycott



[www.richardemagazine.com image 304x270]


They might be on to something though, under Obama my kitchen counter coffee spills have become nearly non-existent. The demand for logger wipes is nearing zero around my place.
 
2012-10-15 01:25:36 PM

vpb: Aarontology: RedPhoenix122: This is also why I hate the expression "the market will police itself"...technically, that's true, and yet, how many people will die before that happens? These assholes want to become a new ruling class, and don't care how many bodies they leave in their wake.

There's no incentive for the market to police itself. None at all. The folks are the very top are going to come out ahead no matter what happens.

If someone can make a few million of stock options while the company burns and hundreds of people lose their jobs people are going to do it because that's how it's set up. Hell, firing a ton of people will usually increase the stock price because of cost saving measures or whatever BS reasoning they use. What do they care about anything else? They'll just move onto the next investment.

That's the problem. It used to be that the goal was to build a solid company over the long term and investors invested in companies that could pay dividends reliably. Now investing is more of a get rich quick scheme with no attempt at creating anything.


Exactly. People used to take pride in building a company, now they just try to maximize profit and get out quick, leaving a smoldering hulk behind them.
 
2012-10-15 01:25:39 PM
Can someone explain to me who this is legal?
 
2012-10-15 01:25:57 PM

serpent_sky: Aren't there some sorts of laws on the books about coercing people's votes through threats of things like loss of a job?


They didn't explicitly threaten anyone's job.
 
2012-10-15 01:26:14 PM

FishyFred: One of the best rules in storytelling is that the villain thinks he's the hero, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how these assholes believe they're the heroes in this tale.


They don't think of us as equals. Simple as that.
 
2012-10-15 01:27:18 PM
In other words, instead of giving a $10,000 raise to every one of those 45,000 employees, they've pissed away all of that waging a war against the black guy in the white house.
 
2012-10-15 01:29:02 PM
The main newspaper in Sacramento gave the Kochs a big sloppy BJ over the weekend.

/they are bound and determined to buy this election
//they should be arrested and charged with voter intimidation
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-15 01:29:26 PM

serpent_sky: Aren't there some sorts of laws on the books about coercing people's votes through threats of things like loss of a job?

As it is, it is bad enough how much power these two men have over the election due to buying their way all along. Threatening people to vote how they want them to just seems ridiculously over the top. If it is public knowledge they are doing this, can't something be done about it?


Sure, you could pass laws preventing corporations or individuals from trying to influence elections, but the people who make the laws are more likely to be on the sides of people like the Kochs because there are no laws preventing them from buying politicians with their inherited money.
 
2012-10-15 01:32:12 PM

FishyFred: One of the best rules in storytelling is that the villain thinks he's the hero, but I cannot for the life of me figure out how these assholes believe they're the heroes in this tale.


you'd have to understand their shared mythology. basically, these guys really do believe that they're 7 foot tall giants. that they are successful entirely because of their own efforts and that god is on their side (not that they're on the side of god, which is a subtle but key point to recognize). it's a weird mix of Nietzsche, Ayn Rand and prosperity gospel heresy...most of it is bullshiat overblown macho ego crap too, but that's how they see themselves. in their minds, THEY are the gods bringing fire to humans who don't appreciate their efforts.
 
2012-10-15 01:32:41 PM

vpb: That's the problem. It used to be that the goal was to build a solid company over the long term and investors invested in companies that could pay dividends reliably. Now investing is more of a get rich quick scheme with no attempt at creating anything.


That's why capital gains needs to be a point or two higher than the top rates on income taxes.

Having it lower removes incentives to build a successful company, since a fortune won't really be tied to the company.
 
2012-10-15 01:37:33 PM

Aarontology: Having it lower removes incentives to build a successful company, since a fortune won't really be tied to the company.


Having it higher removes incentive for those who already have money to invest it in those companies, effectively concentrating the wealth in the upper class permanently.

Is 15% on capital gains too low? Probably. But 40% is too high.
 
2012-10-15 01:37:55 PM
www.cinematheque.bc.ca

meh, unions have been doing this since the 50's.
 
2012-10-15 01:38:54 PM
Poor guys are only worth $31 billion combined. Give them a break.
 
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