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(Newsweek)   "Mitt Romney was not a businessman; he was a master financial speculator who bought, sold, flipped, and stripped businesses," says noted liberal pinko former budget director for Ronald Reagan   (thedailybeast.com) divider line 71
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2012-10-15 10:50:44 AM
9 votes:
That's a kind of businessman.

Frankly it doesn't really matter. The idea that we need a businessman to run government like a business is farking retarded.

Most of the people that spout this nonsense have obviously never worked for a large corporation.. here's a tip, they're not exactly paragons of efficiency and creative thinking.
2012-10-15 01:03:41 PM
7 votes:
Are you telling me Wall Street has a serious problem with people who have convinced politicians that the value of the modern banking industry is so essential to proper capitalization of actual productive industry that they deserve to be treated differently by the tax code and be essentially subsidized? Then, following this rent-seeking behavior, they developed methods of maximizing the money being retained by the investment class by leeching off those businesses they said they needed government support to try to help?

This is my shocked face. Next you'll tell me that they alternate between arguing that they have such complete mastery of what assets are the best investments will make this country better that attempts to reign them in only serves to harm the economy in the boom years, and then when things go bust they put out their cap and say there is no way they could have anticipated the asset they had invested so much in only to see the value grow so they kept investing more money into it was just a bubble and the country as a whole has needs to foot the bill because it was a financial Act of God. Then, when things get better, they go back to being geniuses who don't need to be stifled by government bureaucracy.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-15 10:41:43 AM
7 votes:
This is true of a lot the investment and finance industry. It produces nothing but makes money by manipulating the system. It's not hard to figure out why people like Romney hate government regulation so much.
2012-10-15 11:47:47 AM
6 votes:

xynix: The years of 1978-1999 have no bearing on who he is today and what he stands for today.


Yesterday seems to have no bearing on who he is today.
2012-10-15 11:53:14 AM
5 votes:
Anybody else see the Frontline that was on last week after the VEEP debate? It was basically dueling biographies of Obama and Romney.The show shared flattering and not so flattering things about both candidates, but the thing that struck me about Romney in both his business and political careers was so willing to say whatever it took to get he wanted. He literally does not have a single political principle that he has ever been willing to take a stand on.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/choice-2012/


Good stuff and worth the time to watch it
2012-10-15 11:33:51 AM
4 votes:

xynix: The years of 1978-1999 have no bearing on who he is today and what he stands for today.


apart from the fact that he's touting his business experience and a reason to vote for him.
2012-10-15 11:17:21 AM
4 votes:

Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's a kind of businessman.


Then, I submit, so is the Mafia.
2012-10-15 10:38:37 AM
4 votes:
Yeah but he's white and a huge supporter of the military industrial complex.
2012-10-15 10:30:52 AM
4 votes:
Myth Romney

everything is lies
2012-10-15 02:50:44 PM
3 votes:

DaCaptain19: At least Republicans didn't start this expensive and useless "war on drugs".


? The term was first used by U.S. president Richard Nixon, and was later popularized by the media.[7][8][9]
2012-10-15 12:49:27 PM
3 votes:

SandMann: So, Romney was as much a businessman as Obama was a professor?


Obama burned down the school, fired all his students and shipped them all to China? What a dick.
2012-10-15 12:46:46 PM
3 votes:
Mitt also keeps his funds offshore which prevents them from trickling down to Americans. Draft dodging, tax avoidance, and firing people, he is truly America's greatest patriot.
2012-10-15 10:31:18 AM
3 votes:
He's not a businessman. He's a business, man.
2012-10-15 04:00:26 PM
2 votes:

Vtimlin: FIVE TRILLION DOLLARS IN 3 YEARS. Bring on the excuses.


Let me guess - you were the guy in Calculus 101 who kept saying "I'll never need to use first and second derivatives in real life"...
2012-10-15 04:00:16 PM
2 votes:
God damn. How many alts do the GOP Tards have in deep freeze anyway? How long have they been stockpiling them?
I'm seeing multiple freshly thawed out derpers on a daily basis. If that doesn't spell desperation, then I don't know what does.
2012-10-15 03:07:49 PM
2 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: how about single handedly turning around the 2002 SLC Winter Olympics


Except he really didn't and then he took a bunch of government money to do what he did...
2012-10-15 02:55:32 PM
2 votes:

SuperNinjaToad: propasaurus: And even if you do accept that he was a businessman, a genius who ran a company, what's he done since he retired in 1999?

hhmmm I dunno.. how about single handedly turning around the 2002 SLC Winter Olympics and also became the Governor of Massachusetts.... among a few thing he did.........

[media.tumblr.com image 500x224]

what have you done lately with your life>?


Single handedly? You mean by getting the federal government to bail out the Olympics and give sweetheart land deals to his cronies?
2012-10-15 02:31:03 PM
2 votes:

SandMann: So, Romney was as much a businessman as Obama was a professor?


I didn't know Obama was a professor. he's never suggested that I should vote for him because he was a professor, if he was one.
Mitt Romney, on the other hand, has suggested that I should vote for him, in part, because he's a "successful businessman". So the fact that he has never been any such thing is relevant to me.
2012-10-15 01:20:10 PM
2 votes:

Supahl33t: Yes, having lawyers for president has worked out so wall for us in the past.


Yeah, because that Harvard MBA did such a stellar job.
2012-10-15 01:16:31 PM
2 votes:

vpb: This is true of a lot the investment and finance industry. It produces nothing but makes money by manipulating the system. It's not hard to figure out why people like Romney hate government regulation so much.


Rmoney and his kind hate more government the way a serial killer hates more cops.
2012-10-15 12:55:37 PM
2 votes:
lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com
2012-10-15 12:49:31 PM
2 votes:
So Bain gets involved in four steel companies. One of which ends up being closed down. So what about the other three? I thought he was some evil raider who destroys companies. Why didn't he do that to the other three? Ever heard of Dunkin Donuts? I'm just curious as to why Bain rebuilt and restructured that company, making it profitable again, and saving thousands and thousands of jobs, instead of raiding it and destroying it?

80% of the companies Bain became involved with while Romney was there were able to keep going and 20% failed. Until you can explain away the 80% your little "evil Bain destroys companies!" logic is going to fail.
2012-10-15 12:46:31 PM
2 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: So, you think we'll be sold to China, or will a Anglo-Canadian consortium come in to buy a controlling interest in the USA?


Nah, everything will be privatized and franchised. These asshats are using Neal Stephenson's "Snow Crash" as an instruction manual.
2012-10-15 12:44:27 PM
2 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: probesport: Let's give him a chance to do it for the US, nothing else has worked so far.

Well, actually, basic Keynesian principles to pull us out of republican-induced tailspins followed by more conservative deficit-reducing efforts during times of prosperity when we can afford to pay off our debt have worked fine on more than one occasion, but your bald-faced lie is probably good too.


See, SOMEBODY gets it.
2012-10-15 12:40:48 PM
2 votes:

probesport: Let's give him a chance to do it for the US, nothing else has worked so far.


Well, actually, basic Keynesian principles to pull us out of republican-induced tailspins followed by more conservative deficit-reducing efforts during times of prosperity when we can afford to pay off our debt have worked fine on more than one occasion, but your bald-faced lie is probably good too.
2012-10-15 10:48:18 AM
2 votes:
That entire article should be preserved as Exhibit #1 in the case against unfettered western capitalism.
2012-10-15 10:43:48 PM
1 votes:

geniusiknowit: Empiricism cannot serve as the basis for economic understand.


*:-|*

Did you really just type that?

/wow
2012-10-15 05:15:23 PM
1 votes:
Mitt Romney = Richard Gere in Pretty Woman.

This is a pretty fair description of how he made his money
2012-10-15 05:07:00 PM
1 votes:

SandMann: People with education know the difference between a full Professor and and the lesser grades of Professor. They are big differences. Someone of Obama's academic stature calling himself "Professor" is trying to pull one over.


I know you're Fark's leading dunderhead, but did you even bother reading the linked source? According to you, the University of Chicago Law School, in its entirety, lacks your level of education. I bet you're on the way to the gym.
2012-10-15 04:34:30 PM
1 votes:

Amos Quito: Ich bin mit Mitt.


Translation: I'm with stupid.
2012-10-15 04:21:38 PM
1 votes:

StanTheMan: How anyone can think Barack "Government Solves Everything" Obama deserves re-election after his epic fail escapes me.


Since precious little in that sentence is true, no doubt much escapes you.
2012-10-15 04:09:41 PM
1 votes:

Goetz: God damn. How many alts do the GOP Tards have in deep freeze anyway? How long have they been stockpiling them?
I'm seeing multiple freshly thawed out derpers on a daily basis. If that doesn't spell desperation, then I don't know what does.


Well, you know that massive pile of money Rmoney has to run on, with SuperPAC's and all? Yeah, paid shills are cheap. Hell, some are probably even True Believers who are volunteers and not being paid.
2012-10-15 04:00:42 PM
1 votes:

Grungehamster: I guess the question then becomes if Romney is elected he will see all Americans as the people he is responsible to or if he will see his job as making sure that those who financed his run succeed even if it requires screwing over the little guy.


You mean like how the owners of Solyndra, who financed Obama's run, made out, took all that money and then left the common man taxpayer holding bag?
2012-10-15 03:51:48 PM
1 votes:
My favorite Mitt fact: Protested FOR the draft for Vietnam (!) AND THEN GOT FOUR DEFERMENTS!

His reply "I was doing missionary work.. in france.." (Yeah, Im sure he was going door to door tellin the french they shouldnt be drinking wine..)

-chickenshiat chickenhawk
2012-10-15 03:38:32 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: StanTheMan: . Official government policy of lowering standards and flooding the market with credit got us into this mess.

Nothing stops someone from issuing a mortgage that doesn't meet certain government standards. The standards for things like FHA loans didn't change.

Ha, you mean those now toughened 580 FICO standards? LOL! By the FHA's own admission, most lenders ask for higher than the FHA minimum,

Liar loans and Fannie and Freddie and the Fed = HIV.

The private secondary mortgage market exists because there are people who don't like the returns they get going through Freddie Mac. And Fannie and Freddie had nothing to do with subprime mortgages, which were the whole problem.


Bullshiat bullshiat bullshiat. How you can suggest such bullshiat is, well, bullshiat. First off, a "prime" mortgage under Fannie and Freddie was a 620 FICO score (FHA is now up to a "toughened" 580) out of 850. OK, show of hands Farkers, how many of you would loan six figures of your own money to someone with a sub-700 FICO score? How about sub-600? Go try and rent an apartment with a 620 FICO.

Well, that exactly the risk that what taxpayers were underwriting when Fannie and Freddie bought all those mortgages. Which allowed lenders to make even more loans.

"From 2009 until the present, prime borrowers have accounted for the majority of all new foreclosure starts" - Federal Reserve Bank of New York

So yeah, "prime" for Fannie and Fred was/is a shiatty 620 FICO score, and most foreclosures are prime anyway. Plus, prime loans tend to be larger, so even more destructive.
2012-10-15 03:08:03 PM
1 votes:

StanTheMan: And no, Obama didn't "inherit" anything


I guess those wars Bush kept off the books paid for themselves like he promised.
2012-10-15 02:54:54 PM
1 votes:

lordaction: So when the private sector does it = evil. When Obama does it with bailouts, QE2, Solandra, etc = genius.

And liberals wonder why people think they are idiots.


In what way did Obama buyout these firms, take out loans under their names, pay out the loaned money (as well as anything in the pension fund) as stock options and consulting fees to himself and his business associates, and then put them back on the market in worse shape? In fact, how does QE2 even factor into this? How is government acting to support private enterprise by injecting money into an economy currently suffering undercapitalization is in any way the same as a group of rent seeking lobbyists who abuse this aid for personal gain in a way that harms the ability of other firms to operate?

It would be like saying if your gardner gets mugged than you are the same as the thief for giving the guy the money that got taken from him.
2012-10-15 02:53:15 PM
1 votes:

Supahl33t: Karma Curmudgeon: Supahl33t: I'll take Lincoln over Woodrow "Let the KKK in the White House" Wilson any day.

And yet Wilson wasn't a lawyer but Lincoln was.

So, you don't really have a point, do you? Combined with this post, now I'm thinking you actually didn't try to make one, but instead are playing $10,000 Pyramid with us and the category is "Things Glen Beck might say".

My bad, we haven't had Democrat lawyers try to run the country.

Democratic and Republican Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates since 1980, and let's seehow many lawyers there were:

[Democratic] Attorneys (10 out of 12 total - 83%)
Obama
Biden
Kerry
Edwards
Lieberman
Clinton
Dukakis
Bentsen
Mondale
Ferarro
[Possibly Gore, who never graduated - if he's included, the percentage is 92%]
Carter was the only non-lawyer, non-law school attendee.

[Republican] Attorneys (2 out of 9 total - 22%)
Dole
Quayle

Non-lawyers - McCain, Palin, Bush 43, Cheney, Kemp, Bush 41 and Reagan

Keep on grasping there you twit.


I notice you left Havard juris doctor Willard Romney off your list.
2012-10-15 02:53:03 PM
1 votes:

Verzio: David Stockman?

Yes, I'm sure we can trust a guy who gave a middle finger to the Republican Party in 1986 to be non-partisan in his criticisms. I'm certain that a Wall Street finance guy who completely failed at running his own investment firm doesn't have any envy of someone who actually ran one successfully that might slant his judgment. I believe that someone whom the Bush SEC pursued and the Bush DoJ indicted for fraud doesn't have any resentment that might bias his opinions. And I know that the author of a new book will give his honest opinion, instead of something calculated to get publicity.

Seriously, can't you guys find a Romney critic with even a tattered shred of credibility?


Just a point of advice from a "liberal" Republican: Challenge the guy's facts, if you can. Don't make the guy or his life your target, it looks desperate and doesn't tend to convince people.
2012-10-15 02:50:38 PM
1 votes:

Verzio: Seriously, can't you guys find a Romney critic with even a tattered shred of credibility?


So you can't defend Bain either eh?
2012-10-15 02:41:42 PM
1 votes:
2012-10-15 02:41:18 PM
1 votes:
Wow. The right wing idiots are sure getting bolder on Fark. The dialog gets more and more strident every day.

I guess that's the desperation that comes from knowing you're going to lose the election.
2012-10-15 02:40:42 PM
1 votes:

mark12A: complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of the current mess


I didn't realize that reinstating Glass-Steagall and making millionaires pay their fair share of taxes was so complex.
2012-10-15 02:40:23 PM
1 votes:

lordaction: So when the private sector does it = evil. When Obama does it with bailouts, QE2, Solandra, etc = genius.

And liberals wonder why people think they are idiots.


Dude, weak.
2012-10-15 02:37:31 PM
1 votes:

Supahl33t: My bad, we haven't had Democrat lawyers try to run the country.

Democratic and Republican Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates since 1980, and let's seehow many lawyers there were:

[Democratic] Attorneys (10 out of 12 total - 83%)
Obama
Biden
Kerry
Edwards
Lieberman
Clinton
Dukakis
Bentsen
Mondale
Ferarro
[Possibly Gore, who never graduated - if he's included, the percentage is 92%]
Carter was the only non-lawyer, non-law school attendee.

[Republican] Attorneys (2 out of 9 total - 22%)
Dole
Quayle

Non-lawyers - McCain, Palin, Bush 43, Cheney, Kemp, Bush 41 and Reagan

Keep on grasping there you twit.


Percentage of Democratic lawyers presidenting us into a financial collapse - 0%

Percentage of Republican MBA's presidenting us into a financial collapse - 100%

Also, Romney has his juris doctorate as well as his MBA, so I put the probability that he will president us into a financial collapse at 204%. QED.
2012-10-15 02:32:22 PM
1 votes:

mark12A: Because a "Community Organizer" Is sooooo much better at dealing with the complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of the current mess.....


So, 4 years as President of the United States of America doesn't give one experience to be President of the United States of America?
2012-10-15 02:21:21 PM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: And just because they kept going doesn't mean they were in good shape or operating in anything resembling a desirable way. I mean hell Sealy is still around, but after Bain bought it it got over $600 million in debt added to it's books. That's not a good thing.


Sure it is! Do you know how many fees that debt produces? How much in servicing cost? That debt is a profit generator! Oh, you mean for the company? Screw the company.
2012-10-15 02:13:39 PM
1 votes:

lordaction: So when the private sector does it = evil. When Obama does it with bailouts, QE2, Solandra, etc = genius.

And liberals wonder why people think they are idiots.


Except that isn't what liberals think. But it's nice of you to participate in recycling by pulling the talking points pages out of Limbaugh's dumpster.
2012-10-15 01:53:18 PM
1 votes:

Jaws_Victim: I love talking about how rmoney has no real position, but remember that the president flipped on gay marriage when it became politically favorable to him.


Sure, but Obama hasn't flipped back.

Romney doesn't flip-flop, he oscillates.
2012-10-15 01:49:50 PM
1 votes:

mark12A: Because a "Community Organizer" Is sooooo much better at dealing with the complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of the current mess.....


You're right... to deal with this mess of complex financial maneuvering required, we should get one of the people responsible for this mess of complex financial maneuvering to get us out of it. It's like hiring your kidnapper to rescue you.
2012-10-15 01:39:18 PM
1 votes:

on the road: Of course Romney thinks he's a job creator.


Well, he did create a lot of jobs -- overseas. He's never created a job here; he has only eliminated them. That's what LBO experts do. They buy a healthy company and a few that are tanking and combine them into a single holding company. They lay off a lot of people, send the work overseas, restructure the costs of the newly formed company, get a few quarters of profitability under their belts and then sell it.
2012-10-15 01:33:21 PM
1 votes:
If Romney runs America the way he ran companies under Bain...

He'll merge the Department of Education with Department of Defense to reduce overhead.
Sell off the gold in Fort Knox since it's not doing anything and pocket the profits as a management fee.
Recall all the promissory notes in exchange for shares in the Federal Government of the USA.
Ship all the prison labor jobs to China, freeing Federal Prisoners to do more government jobs.
Put running of the EPA, FDA, USDA, and DARPA to the lowest bidders.
Allow subletting of any federal lands to any company regardless of origin of ownership or history.
Oh, and fire all unionized federal employees and rehire some into new non-union organization.

Anything else I've missed. And I'm sorry if what I've described doesn't sound like a touch of sarcasm.
2012-10-15 01:30:39 PM
1 votes:
vpb:
This is true of a lot the investment and finance industry. It produces nothing but makes money by manipulating the system. It's not hard to figure out why people like Romney hate government regulation so much.

Government is the only reason there's a "system" to manipulate at all. A true weakly- or non-governed society would not have a sophisticated financial system that would allow money to be made simply by shuffling numbers around, nor would it have a central bank to help maintain economic and currency stability in times of crisis.

Without government the "economy" would be "armed men barter physical goods with other groups of armed men, while avoiding being robbed by more powerful groups of armed men and attempting to rob weaker groups of their own goods."
BN0
2012-10-15 01:28:38 PM
1 votes:

xanadian: Run the government like a business--like Bain--and we'd be rolling in the moulah.


Romney got rich while working at Bain. Bain didn't do so good. They fared about as well as a company as the stock market itself did during the same time period.

Bain Capital was much better for Romney than Romney was for Bain.

Also, look at what Bain REALLY did for Dunkin Donuts: saddled it with MASSIVE debt from it's own leveraged buyout. Thanks Bain!

Also Bain did wonders for KayBee Toys.. (look it up).
2012-10-15 01:25:43 PM
1 votes:

Speaker2Animals: "We'll negotiate this with Congress" is apparently all the detail that's required.


Because Congress has such a stellar reputation for negotiating and compromising.
2012-10-15 01:24:36 PM
1 votes:

I_C_Weener: This is like saying Nancy Pelosi is a terrible Congresswoman because all she does is stuff that helps her side.


That's not a good analogy.
2012-10-15 01:20:45 PM
1 votes:

Karma Curmudgeon: Supahl33t: Yes, having lawyers for president has worked out so wall for us in the past.

This message brought to you by the Party of LincolnTM.


I'll take Lincoln over Woodrow "Let the KKK in the White House" Wilson any day.
2012-10-15 01:11:18 PM
1 votes:

Supahl33t: Yes, having lawyers for president has worked out so wall for us in the past.


This message brought to you by the Party of LincolnTM.
GBB
2012-10-15 01:08:59 PM
1 votes:

Eddie Adams from Torrance: That's a kind of businessman.

Frankly it doesn't really matter. The idea that we need a businessman to run government like a business is farking retarded.

Most of the people that spout this nonsense have obviously never worked for a large corporation.. here's a tip, they're not exactly paragons of efficiency and creative thinking.


...and they sure as shiat don't have your best interests in mind. Either as a customer, or employee.
2012-10-15 01:04:42 PM
1 votes:

tommyl66: keylock71: mark12A: Because a "Community Organizer" Is sooooo much better at dealing with the complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of the current mess.....

Give us some of Romney's "specifics"... Particularly, how 5 trillion in tax cuts and a doubling of the defense budgets is "revenue neutral". Also please detail all the loop holes that will be closed to pay for these cuts.

Thanks.

If you would just take the time to read the specifics on Romney's budget plans you'd see that it will work only if you forward on the plan to 10 of your friends before midnight on November 5th. Otherwise we'll have 4 years of bad luck and our crushes will think we're ugly.


One need only send Romney their name , address, social security number, bank account routing and account number and a money order for $1000 (to cover administrative costs) and $10,000 will be deposited into their account immediately and a voucher for a brand new six figure job with health insurance will be mailed to them...
2012-10-15 01:03:23 PM
1 votes:

xynix: The years of 1978-1999 have no bearing on who he is today and what he stands for today.


we are a sum of our experiences. 1978-1999 has a HUGE bearing on who he is today due to the fact that those years shaped him into the questionable person he is today.

/I don't want either option in office
2012-10-15 01:00:31 PM
1 votes:

keylock71: mark12A: Because a "Community Organizer" Is sooooo much better at dealing with the complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of the current mess.....

Give us some of Romney's "specifics"... Particularly, how 5 trillion in tax cuts and a doubling of the defense budgets is "revenue neutral". Also please detail all the loop holes that will be closed to pay for these cuts.

Thanks.


If you would just take the time to read the specifics on Romney's budget plans you'd see that it will work only if you forward on the plan to 10 of your friends before midnight on November 5th. Otherwise we'll have 4 years of bad luck and our crushes will think we're ugly.
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-10-15 12:56:41 PM
1 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: So, you think we'll be sold to China, or will a Anglo-Canadian consortium come in to buy a controlling interest in the USA?


Why wouldn't we become a subsidiary of Koch Industries?
2012-10-15 12:56:21 PM
1 votes:

mark12A: Because a "Community Organizer" Is sooooo much better at dealing with the complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of got us into the current mess.....


In a word? Yes.
2012-10-15 12:52:59 PM
1 votes:
Sadly none of this matters. The thing that got Obama elected in the first place is the very thing that will cause this election to be a close one. It's his race.
2012-10-15 12:51:13 PM
1 votes:
Romney is on record saying he believes that his 14% tax rate is perfectly reasonable, since that low rate allows "job creators" the capital they need to invest in new businesses.

So, how many jobs have you PERSONALLY created, Mitt, with that money from your 14% tax rate? He should have just lists and lists of businesses he has personally helped finance and create, and be able to point to a large number of jobs that this low tax rate allowed him to create.

How about it, Mitt? What have you been doing with all that money saved using such a low tax rate?
2012-10-15 12:47:10 PM
1 votes:
Because a "Community Organizer" Is sooooo much better at dealing with the complex financial manuevering needed to get us out of the current mess.....
2012-10-15 12:42:43 PM
1 votes:
The article would hold more weight if her weren't peddling a book, and for thirty bucks at that.
2012-10-15 11:31:41 AM
1 votes:

propasaurus: And even if you do accept that he was a businessman, a genius who ran a company, what's he done since he retired in 1999?


He ran the Olympics and then was a governor for 4 years. This is what Republicans look at.. Did he suck at running the Olympics? In a financial way yes but they don't see that. Did he invent Obamacare while governor of MA? Indeed he did but that doesn't matter. Did Bain Capital do all kinds of sneaky shiat? Of course they did but capitalism is capitalism and it doesn't matter because he hasn't run the company since 1999. The years of 1978-1999 have no bearing on who he is today and what he stands for today.
2012-10-15 11:09:32 AM
1 votes:
And even if you do accept that he was a businessman, a genius who ran a company, what's he done since he retired in 1999?
2012-10-15 11:06:56 AM
1 votes:
So, you think we'll be sold to China, or will a Anglo-Canadian consortium come in to buy a controlling interest in the USA?
 
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