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(Courier Mail)   It turns out Facebook is having a hard time stopping teens from speculating on the sexual proclivities of other teens on the pages of Facebook   (couriermail.com.au) divider line 18
    More: Obvious, teen sex, Facebook, Department for Education, Adelaide  
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8904 clicks; posted to Main » on 15 Oct 2012 at 10:42 AM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-10-15 11:30:45 AM
2 votes:

Hoboclown: cgraves67: If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.

Exactly! If they didn't have a Facebook account, nobody on Facebook could talk about them!


You obviously don't have kids and of you think that's a smart statement, you may want to avoid HAVING kids.
2012-10-15 10:58:13 AM
2 votes:

sodomizer: entropic_existence: Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids.

Deleting the Facebook account wouldn't work?

If that fails, time to join a gang so you've got a mutual aid defense society. I know I would.


I'm pretty sure people can still talk about you on FB even if you don't have an account. Which means people can still show you the nasty things being said about you. Now as much as we would all tell the kid "ignore it, it means nothing" you know it's going to be impossible for a kid to do that.
2012-10-15 10:56:29 AM
2 votes:

entropic_existence: This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.



There is no life or death need for a Facebook profile. There is no educational value gained from having a Facebook profile. You do not need a Facebook profile.

Teen: "I am being bullied online"

Society: "Look, high school is not everything, it gets better after you get out of high school"

Teen: "Yeah, but the bulling is happening right now, see - Judy just called me a slut on that Facebook page!" "My life is ruined!"

Society: "Well, are you a slut?"

Teen: "No, I've never even kissed a guy, let alone do anything sexual"

Society: "Well, if you cannot handle the idiots posting stupid, made up shiat about you, then walk away from Facebook, its not like you are being forced to encounter their torments. You do realize that you are willingly subjecting yourself to this torture every time you login right?"

Teen: "BUUUUTTTT FACEBOOK IS MY LIFE WHARRGRABLE!!!!!"

And so it goes
2012-10-15 10:45:43 AM
2 votes:
This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.
2012-10-15 10:45:04 AM
2 votes:
If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.
2012-10-16 06:22:25 AM
1 votes:
The thing about teens is that they don't think like normal people. Their brains are still forming, synapses are making connections and they're experiencing far more complex emotions than they have ever known. Their brains are surging with powerful chemicals. Of course they're not going to know how to deal with it or get a sense of perspective. You get a pack of them together and it's Lord of the Flies without the tropical setting. I watched Amanda Todd's video and I wish I could have told her something to make her feel better. She was just a kid.
2012-10-15 01:05:32 PM
1 votes:

entropic_existence: This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.


Look, I got the crap beat out of me more than a few times going through high school... I empathize with these kids... but a good part of dealing with bullying is good parenting. Bullies get their rocks off by you being upset by them, creating a spectacle for all to see in which they win. Once you stop caring one way or the other what they say, whether you get in a fight that day, or whatever, they'll find something else to do. We need parents to parent a little better, because dealing with bullies is not something that ends in high school... even out in the working world, there are managers and coworkers who will bully you, maybe not physically, but they'll do everything they can to make your life hell just to prove they can... if you don't have good coping mechanisms, it just isn't going to work out.

With respect to suicide prevention and intervention, we need to be realistic about the possibility that kids will kill themselves. Too often the response from friends and family is that they knew the person was being bullied or harassed, but they just didn't think it was that bad, or they just didn't think their kid would be the one to kill him/herself. It's imperative that no matter what goes on in the whole rest of the world, that kids have at least one person they can unequivocally trust and confide in, so even when they're really down, they aren't alone in it.
2012-10-15 11:54:23 AM
1 votes:

Kejlina: Someday these teens will grow up, and some of them might have a realization that in the grand scheme of things, a boob photo is actually no big deal. They'll realise that and then get a terrible sinking feeling in their guts over tormenting someone to death over something that's no big deal. I hope the guilt torments them until they realise that they can't change what happened but they can change what happens next and start treating people with respect accordingly.


Never gonna happen. But I like your view of Utopia.
2012-10-15 11:52:27 AM
1 votes:
The other thing that will be interesting to see as time goes on will be how the permanence of the internet will affect these kids abilities to get into certain colleges and or specific career fields. Bullying, posting false roomers, racist shiat...all coming back to bite them in the ass when they are trying to get into Grad School, or want to get a clearance, or run for public office.
2012-10-15 11:40:34 AM
1 votes:

ShadowLAnCeR: You know there is a really easy solution to all of this. Kill the bullies. Make an example of a few of em, that will end it real quick.

/is in no way actually recommending this.


I was in HS when Columbine happened. The next couple of weeks were heaven, all of the bullies toned down their actions. If those two had focused on bullies only, I would have probably cheered for them.
2012-10-15 11:28:14 AM
1 votes:

cgraves67: If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.


What if I were to 'opt out' of the English language?

HOLY shiat, cgraves67!!! Nobody could EVER say anything about me again!!!
2012-10-15 11:27:55 AM
1 votes:
I always feel sorry for people who say HS was the best time of their life.
2012-10-15 11:22:31 AM
1 votes:
Sue for slander or defamation of character. That will teach the gossiper. Then, of course, your reputation becomes "the asshole who sues;" but if the other kids are afraid of posting things about you because you'll sue them, problem solved.

/The American Way!
2012-10-15 11:09:21 AM
1 votes:

Endive Wombat: Society: "Well, if you cannot handle the idiots posting stupid, made up shiat about you, then walk away from Facebook, its not like you are being forced to encounter their torments.


They do encounter the people that post and read it every day.
2012-10-15 11:06:46 AM
1 votes:
My high school administration has pretty much been forced to become the Facebook police. They have used stuff written online (not even written from the school building) as excuses for detentions or suspensions. They use the reasoning that Facebook can create a hostile environment in school, so they have the right to discipline kids for bullying done on Facebook.

Not sure that would stand up in court if it is ever challenged, but I have heard much less about bullying going on online since they started this.

Of course, if teachers could accept student friend requests, we'd probably be a lot more aware of what is going on, but everyone knows that teachers and students being friends on Facebook leads directly to wild monkey sex.
2012-10-15 11:06:18 AM
1 votes:
High and mighty people are quick to comment without looking at the whole picture. A teenager could never even use the Internet but still have rumors, stories, and pictures of them spread to family, friends, and everyone in the city. The victim may not be using it but society at large would be using it as a tool for abuse. So unless you've got an idea to get EVERY teenager off of Facebook then you really should STFU.
2012-10-15 10:47:26 AM
1 votes:

sodomizer: You trusted your privacy to an internet start-up known for its sometimes buggy code?

Really.


Fair point, but even if they didn't other students could post offensive crap about them, regardless of whether its true or not. FB is a sh*thole.
2012-10-15 10:43:48 AM
1 votes:
You trusted your privacy to an internet start-up known for its sometimes buggy code?

Really.
 
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