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2012-10-15 09:58:37 AM
One of the teenagers named in the page told News Ltd that the posts made her feel "like a giant cliche".

Is that some Australian slang term for "whore"?
 
2012-10-15 10:43:17 AM
You'll get over it.
 
2012-10-15 10:43:48 AM
You trusted your privacy to an internet start-up known for its sometimes buggy code?

Really.
 
2012-10-15 10:45:04 AM
If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.
 
2012-10-15 10:45:43 AM
This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.
 
2012-10-15 10:47:26 AM

sodomizer: You trusted your privacy to an internet start-up known for its sometimes buggy code?

Really.


Fair point, but even if they didn't other students could post offensive crap about them, regardless of whether its true or not. FB is a sh*thole.
 
2012-10-15 10:48:03 AM
The city of churches is suffering from a plague of hateful online activity.

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Budapest?
 
2012-10-15 10:48:20 AM
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2012-10-15 10:51:10 AM

entropic_existence: Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids.


Deleting the Facebook account wouldn't work?

If that fails, time to join a gang so you've got a mutual aid defense society. I know I would.
 
2012-10-15 10:54:24 AM

sodomizer: You trusted your privacy to an the internet start-up known for its sometimes buggy code?

Really.

 
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2012-10-15 10:56:13 AM
Teens will find a way to gossip??????
 
2012-10-15 10:56:29 AM

entropic_existence: This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.



There is no life or death need for a Facebook profile. There is no educational value gained from having a Facebook profile. You do not need a Facebook profile.

Teen: "I am being bullied online"

Society: "Look, high school is not everything, it gets better after you get out of high school"

Teen: "Yeah, but the bulling is happening right now, see - Judy just called me a slut on that Facebook page!" "My life is ruined!"

Society: "Well, are you a slut?"

Teen: "No, I've never even kissed a guy, let alone do anything sexual"

Society: "Well, if you cannot handle the idiots posting stupid, made up shiat about you, then walk away from Facebook, its not like you are being forced to encounter their torments. You do realize that you are willingly subjecting yourself to this torture every time you login right?"

Teen: "BUUUUTTTT FACEBOOK IS MY LIFE WHARRGRABLE!!!!!"

And so it goes
 
2012-10-15 10:58:13 AM

sodomizer: entropic_existence: Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids.

Deleting the Facebook account wouldn't work?

If that fails, time to join a gang so you've got a mutual aid defense society. I know I would.


I'm pretty sure people can still talk about you on FB even if you don't have an account. Which means people can still show you the nasty things being said about you. Now as much as we would all tell the kid "ignore it, it means nothing" you know it's going to be impossible for a kid to do that.
 
2012-10-15 10:58:21 AM
so for all the time these kids spend on facebook -- if it really is "their entire life" not a single damn one of them knows how to work the privacy settings so that people can't see or post rude things on their wall?

I suppose it's true then -- kids today really are dumber than bricks.
 
2012-10-15 10:59:05 AM

Endive Wombat: entropic_existence: This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.


There is no life or death need for a Facebook profile. There is no educational value gained from having a Facebook profile. You do not need a Facebook profile.

Teen: "I am being bullied online"

Society: "Look, high school is not everything, it gets better after you get out of high school"

Teen: "Yeah, but the bulling is happening right now, see - Judy just called me a slut on that Facebook page!" "My life is ruined!"

Society: "Well, are you a slut?"

Teen: "No, I've never even kissed a guy, let alone do anything sexual"

Society: "PRUDE!"

Teen: "BUUUUTTTT FACEBOOK IS MY LIFE WHARRGRABLE!!!!!"

And so it goes

 
2012-10-15 11:01:15 AM
Teenagers hyperbolize sexual encounters. The internet is used as an(semi) anonymous way to convey hate. This is new?
 
2012-10-15 11:01:24 AM
I don't get why Facebook gets blamed for people being assholes. Why don't people see it what it is, people being assholes. If those girls stood on a street corner and said these things, would it be the street corners fault?

High School sucks for some people. Don't get your panties in a bunch because people make fun of you on the internet. Most people continue to get picked on because they get upset when people pick on them. If your able to say "fark them" and go about your business these people would move onto some one else.
 
2012-10-15 11:01:35 AM
My pug wants Duke.
 
2012-10-15 11:02:02 AM

entropic_existence: This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.


Wouldnt everyone that had that pic be charged with child porn?
 
2012-10-15 11:02:53 AM

entropic_existence: This sort of thing is a very real problem. Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids. When people posting shiat on facebook about other students leads to brawls, beatings, and eventual suicide... there's a problem.

And sometimes those bullies and trolls keep shiat up even after the person dies.


Was there ever an amanda todd fark thread? I submitted an article friday but it was not approved and haven't seen one on the frontpage...
 
2012-10-15 11:03:08 AM
Kind of nice for a kid that can't get laid, just start some rumors about himself and suddenly he's a stud.
 
2012-10-15 11:05:48 AM

cgraves67: If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.


Exactly! If they didn't have a Facebook account, nobody on Facebook could talk about them!
 
2012-10-15 11:06:08 AM
"Billy Peterson sucks cocks for a quarter under the bleachers during football games!"
 
2012-10-15 11:06:16 AM

sift: I don't get why Facebook gets blamed for people being assholes. Why don't people see it what it is, people being assholes. If those girls stood on a street corner and said these things, would it be the street corners fault?


This.

Nasty rumors have been around since the invention of language.
 
2012-10-15 11:06:17 AM
Man, what's up with kids these days? When I was in high school we didn't have any of this hormonal drama, emotional savagery, or pointless speculation about other people's sexual orientations. As I recall, we treated one another with maturity and respect. Anything else would have interfered with getting our educations, which is why we were there.
 
2012-10-15 11:06:18 AM
High and mighty people are quick to comment without looking at the whole picture. A teenager could never even use the Internet but still have rumors, stories, and pictures of them spread to family, friends, and everyone in the city. The victim may not be using it but society at large would be using it as a tool for abuse. So unless you've got an idea to get EVERY teenager off of Facebook then you really should STFU.
 
2012-10-15 11:06:46 AM
My high school administration has pretty much been forced to become the Facebook police. They have used stuff written online (not even written from the school building) as excuses for detentions or suspensions. They use the reasoning that Facebook can create a hostile environment in school, so they have the right to discipline kids for bullying done on Facebook.

Not sure that would stand up in court if it is ever challenged, but I have heard much less about bullying going on online since they started this.

Of course, if teachers could accept student friend requests, we'd probably be a lot more aware of what is going on, but everyone knows that teachers and students being friends on Facebook leads directly to wild monkey sex.
 
2012-10-15 11:07:05 AM

accelerus: so for all the time these kids spend on facebook -- if it really is "their entire life" not a single damn one of them knows how to work the privacy settings so that people can't see or post rude things on their wall?

I suppose it's true then -- kids today really are dumber than bricks.


FTFA: Less than two days after a Facebook "hate page" discussing the sexual activity of Adelaide high school students was shut down, another sprang up in its place.

It is not on their wall but a completely separate page.

/But kids today have no reading comprehension skills
 
2012-10-15 11:09:21 AM

Endive Wombat: Society: "Well, if you cannot handle the idiots posting stupid, made up shiat about you, then walk away from Facebook, its not like you are being forced to encounter their torments.


They do encounter the people that post and read it every day.
 
2012-10-15 11:10:55 AM

sodomizer: You trusted your privacy to an internet start-up known for its sometimes buggy code?

Really.


ignoring the code issues, you're trusting your privacy to an internet start-up whose founder is opposed to privacy and anonymity.
 
2012-10-15 11:11:03 AM
Ah yes, the internet savvy youth that spills private data and doesn't know how to report a page.
 
2012-10-15 11:11:14 AM

sift: I don't get why Facebook gets blamed for people being assholes. Why don't people see it what it is, people being assholes. If those girls stood on a street corner and said these things, would it be the street corners fault?

High School sucks for some people. Don't get your panties in a bunch because people make fun of you on the internet. Most people continue to get picked on because they get upset when people pick on them. If your able to say "fark them" and go about your business these people would move onto some one else.


BECAUSE WE ARE PICKING ON FACEBOOK
 
2012-10-15 11:16:30 AM
My pug has an angry
 
2012-10-15 11:18:27 AM

sodomizer: entropic_existence: Yes bullying has been around forever, but there is literally no escape now for lots of teenagers and kids.

Deleting the Facebook account wouldn't work?

If that fails, time to join a gang so you've got a mutual aid defense society. I know I would.


Putting yourself in the shoes of a modern teen, where Facebook is essentially an every-day part of their life is difficult. I'm in my late 20's and I can barely put myself in that position. I think for anyone my age or older, we just don't "get it."

Besides the cyber-bullying ends up being just another place where the kids are posting shiat back and forth with each other. Deleting your facebook might mean you don't see it anymore, but it is still happening and spilling back over into the school and other parts of your life.

megalynn44: I'm pretty sure people can still talk about you on FB even if you don't have an account. Which means people can still show you the nasty things being said about you. Now as much as we would all tell the kid "ignore it, it means nothing" you know it's going to be impossible for a kid to do that.


Pretty much this

accelerus: so for all the time these kids spend on facebook -- if it really is "their entire life" not a single damn one of them knows how to work the privacy settings so that people can't see or post rude things on their wall?

I suppose it's true then -- kids today really are dumber than bricks.


It isn't just people posting things on your wall. It is people making pages/groups where they post shiat about other people as well. Which then spills back into offline bullying.

attention span of a retarded fruit fly: Wouldnt everyone that had that pic be charged with child porn?


That sort of thing will probably happen now that there is a police investigation, but one was never started when that actually happened as far as I know.

Nemnoch: Was there ever an amanda todd fark thread? I submitted an article friday but it was not approved and haven't seen one on the frontpage...


No idea. I used it as an example since is big in the news here in Canada. It also goes to show that it isn't just cyber-bullying. It spilled over into harassment throughout her school and social life as well. Deleting her facebook wouldn't have done much.
 
2012-10-15 11:22:31 AM
Sue for slander or defamation of character. That will teach the gossiper. Then, of course, your reputation becomes "the asshole who sues;" but if the other kids are afraid of posting things about you because you'll sue them, problem solved.

/The American Way!
 
2012-10-15 11:23:17 AM
Children today, can you believe it? Obviously we didn't do this to each other before we had Facebook.

Seriously the "whore talk" was verbal, that's the only difference - and the biggest source was the girls themselves who bragged about it. Hell my mother's reunion was recently and she still remembered the girl (now a grandmother) who was the proud slut in her class.
 
2012-10-15 11:24:04 AM
Facebook must suck if you're young and especially depressed. I'm 26 so I experienced Facebook from its birth in my college years to now. People use it for all sorts of things and that's cool. That's their prerogative. That being said, people love to brag and I imagine that could have an effect on impressionable kids, sensitive people and people who don't feel like they have much self worth.

I see a lot of people getting engaged and I know several bitter girls who comment on the fact that so and so got engaged and they cannot believe so and so found someone. Then you have women who can't have children being inundated with baby pictures.
 
2012-10-15 11:27:55 AM
I always feel sorry for people who say HS was the best time of their life.
 
2012-10-15 11:28:14 AM

cgraves67: If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.


What if I were to 'opt out' of the English language?

HOLY shiat, cgraves67!!! Nobody could EVER say anything about me again!!!
 
2012-10-15 11:29:28 AM

WienerButt: Facebook must suck if you're young and especially depressed. I'm 26 so I experienced Facebook from its birth in my college years to now. People use it for all sorts of things and that's cool. That's their prerogative. That being said, people love to brag and I imagine that could have an effect on impressionable kids, sensitive people and people who don't feel like they have much self worth.

I see a lot of people getting engaged and I know several bitter girls who comment on the fact that so and so got engaged and they cannot believe so and so found someone. Then you have women who can't have children being inundated with baby pictures.


Link

Fixes that issue, just don't brag about it, because then you have women trying to troll you and captioning their photos to get around your filter.
 
2012-10-15 11:29:39 AM

HotWingConspiracy: They do encounter the people that post and read it every day.



And everything posted on the internet ever is 100% true right?

Here's the thing, parents need to take an active roll in their children's online activities.

Here is what I posted in another thread about Amanda Todd:

"Based off what I've read, the parents were well aware of the cyber bullying. She moved cities and schools, yet they still let her have a Facebook page and access to the internet at large?

Her making that sad video did not help, it only added to the situation. Classic example of the Streisand Effect. If she would have just logged off so to speak, this all would have gone away very quickly.

Jessi Slaughter is another noteworthy example of the victim adding fuel to the fire. The upcoming generations are now dealing with potentially world wide bullies. Back in the day, if your kid was being bullied, you could talk to the school and parents of the bully and get the situation resolved. But because of the internet, that option is pretty useless now.

I see this as one of the unexpected consequences that come with parents letting their kids have unlimited and unsupervised access to the internet. You would not let your 15 year old daughter hang out in a creepy biker bar or a sex addicts recovery center all by herself, why do you let her have unlimited access to the scariest places and the scariest people on the internet.

Today's parents have added pressure in allowing and trusting their teens with the space and privacy with their online interactions, but also have a duty to make sure things do not get so out of hand that their 15 year old daughter isn't being "forced" to show her boobs to total, random strangers. Yes, there is something to be said about teaching your children that trying to gain the approval of all is fruitless and just being happy with yourself is paramount...but try really convincing your average teen of that. While we as adults generally understand that we will never please everyone and any attempts to do so is silly, teens just don't get it."
 
2012-10-15 11:30:45 AM

Hoboclown: cgraves67: If only Facebook weren't mandatory and you could opt out of it, or not even join in the first place. If only.

Exactly! If they didn't have a Facebook account, nobody on Facebook could talk about them!


You obviously don't have kids and of you think that's a smart statement, you may want to avoid HAVING kids.
 
2012-10-15 11:34:43 AM

Fark Rye For Many Whores: Children today, can you believe it? Obviously we didn't do this to each other before we had Facebook.


'Hey, bullying is OK. It happened when I was in school!'

So let's let everyone broadcast it all over the planet. Argue about it on Fark. Pretend like I am indifferent. Defend Facebook. Act like we have the same access to information we did when we were being bullied in school.

You're right! It's okay because WE DID IT TOO!!!

awesome argument.
 
2012-10-15 11:36:51 AM

Endive Wombat: And everything posted on the internet ever is 100% true right?


No. That would be why they're upset about people posting, reading, and repeating these things.

For some people a rumor is just as good as truth. Many of these people happen to be in high school.

I see this as one of the unexpected consequences that come with parents letting their kids have unlimited and unsupervised access to the internet.

Even if your parents banned the use of FB completely, there is nothing stopping people from spreading rumors about you on it. In fact, the response is generally to make a fake page for you. Then you have to deal with that offline.
 
2012-10-15 11:37:16 AM
You know there is a really easy solution to all of this. Kill the bullies. Make an example of a few of em, that will end it real quick.

/is in no way actually recommending this.
 
2012-10-15 11:40:34 AM

ShadowLAnCeR: You know there is a really easy solution to all of this. Kill the bullies. Make an example of a few of em, that will end it real quick.

/is in no way actually recommending this.


I was in HS when Columbine happened. The next couple of weeks were heaven, all of the bullies toned down their actions. If those two had focused on bullies only, I would have probably cheered for them.
 
2012-10-15 11:44:30 AM

Girion47: ShadowLAnCeR: You know there is a really easy solution to all of this. Kill the bullies. Make an example of a few of em, that will end it real quick.

/is in no way actually recommending this.

I was in HS when Columbine happened. The next couple of weeks were heaven, all of the bullies toned down their actions. If those two had focused on bullies only, I would have probably cheered for them.


I was a Senior in HS at the time, I remember the same effect.
 
2012-10-15 11:46:18 AM

fisker: Defend Facebook


You're imagining things - if I'm defending anyone (not really) it's the kids whose behavior isn't surprising. I don't use FB and I've had this kind of thing happen to me anyway even dealing with the "grownup" crowd.
 
2012-10-15 11:47:43 AM
Facebook wasn't a thing when I wad in high school but bullying and rumour were still rampant. Facebook is just a new platform for assholes to practice the art of assholery.

I just posted the following rant on my facebook after learning about how people are STILL joking about that Vancouver girl after her suicide:

Reading her story I was reminded of a girl from my high school who got bullied a bit when word got out that she apparently gave someone a blowjob, which of course caused a SCANDAL. Hell, even I was scandalised.

I don't know if the rumours were true and in hindsight I realise that it doesn't matter. I wish I could go back in time and tell my younger self and my former classmates that this shiat doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things: what does matter is how you treat people.

I read that the girl in Van started to be bullied after she flashed her boobs on a webcam in grade 7. And to young people, behaviour like that is OMG SCANDAL. But most teenagers and even pre-teens are starting to go through puberty and experiment sexually - the real scandal is that they torment each other to death over it.

Someday these teens will grow up, and some of them might have a realization that in the grand scheme of things, a boob photo is actually no big deal. They'll realise that and then get a terrible sinking feeling in their guts over tormenting someone to death over something that's no big deal. I hope the guilt torments them until they realise that they can't change what happened but they can change what happens next and start treating people with respect accordingly.
 
2012-10-15 11:50:13 AM

Girion47: I always feel sorry for people who say HS was the best time of their life.


I don't.
 
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