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(Toronto Star)   Canadian students offended that B.C. job placement bureau is advertising programs with "Hipster is not a real job" tagline. "There's no bachelor of hipsterdom offered and people understand hipster is a style of dress so it just doesn't make sense"   (thestar.com) divider line 58
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2012-10-15 09:17:42 AM  
They were unemployed before it was cool.
 
2012-10-15 09:20:52 AM  
"They get the ads are trying to use humour but it just seems they're not connecting with the audience," she said.

Because they're hipsters. Sounds like the ads hit exactly where they were designed to.
 
2012-10-15 09:30:02 AM  
It sounds like the ads are just trying too hard.
 
2012-10-15 09:31:58 AM  
According to B.C. Stats figures released last week, residents between the ages of 15 to 24 have a 14.7 per cent unemployment rate; that compares to a 6.5 per cent unemployment rate for the overall B.C. population.

That's a weird age range to measure unemployment across. You're getting high school, college, and recent college grads all in the same pot.
 
2012-10-15 09:42:54 AM  

ha-ha-guy: According to B.C. Stats figures released last week, residents between the ages of 15 to 24 have a 14.7 per cent unemployment rate; that compares to a 6.5 per cent unemployment rate for the overall B.C. population.

That's a weird age range to measure unemployment across. You're getting high school, college, and recent college grads all in the same pot.


Heh, I see where you are going with this. I think all the government was trying to do with this ad campaign was to nip the problem at the bud
 
2012-10-15 09:43:12 AM  
They wouldn't be offended if it didn't ring true to them.
 
2012-10-15 09:43:15 AM  
Then explain the people working at the local coffee shop.
 
2012-10-15 09:49:17 AM  
"We know the government is clearly promoting a jobs plan and there's all these jobs for ship building and industrial work but you can't force people to take on a particular job in this day and age and certainly not with the message they're using that being a hipster is not a real job," said Bell.

So there are jobs, the kids just won't do them.
Seems like the ads are right on to me.
 
2012-10-15 09:50:28 AM  
Society chair Emily Rogers said the reaction to the ads is taking away from the message that B.C. youths face chronic unemployment.

Fixed that for you. Get off the Mary Janes hipsters
 
2012-10-15 09:51:07 AM  

ds615: "We know the government is clearly promoting a jobs plan and there's all these jobs for ship building and industrial work but you can't force people to take on a particular job in this day and age and certainly not with the message they're using that being a hipster is not a real job," said Bell.

So there are jobs, the kids just won't do them.
Seems like the ads are right on to me.


Yep. You gotta pay your dues to get what you want in life. You don't just get shiat handed to you after getting your BA in Hipsterdom. I did manual labor for a few years to build up my resume and pay for school. Now I do what I love. Tada.
 
2012-10-15 09:54:08 AM  

ghostwind: ha-ha-guy: According to B.C. Stats figures released last week, residents between the ages of 15 to 24 have a 14.7 per cent unemployment rate; that compares to a 6.5 per cent unemployment rate for the overall B.C. population.

That's a weird age range to measure unemployment across. You're getting high school, college, and recent college grads all in the same pot.

Heh, I see where you are going with this. I think all the government was trying to do with this ad campaign was to nip the problem at the bud


Some of these kids are blazingly smart, they just last the work ethic and can't seem to find the log out button on facebook.
 
2012-10-15 09:55:26 AM  

WhiskeySticks: ghostwind: ha-ha-guy: According to B.C. Stats figures released last week, residents between the ages of 15 to 24 have a 14.7 per cent unemployment rate; that compares to a 6.5 per cent unemployment rate for the overall B.C. population.

That's a weird age range to measure unemployment across. You're getting high school, college, and recent college grads all in the same pot.

Heh, I see where you are going with this. I think all the government was trying to do with this ad campaign was to nip the problem at the bud

Some of these kids are blazingly smart, they just last lack the work ethic and can't seem to find the log out button on facebook.


FTFMS
 
2012-10-15 10:07:23 AM  

bhcompy: ds615: "We know the government is clearly promoting a jobs plan and there's all these jobs for ship building and industrial work but you can't force people to take on a particular job in this day and age and certainly not with the message they're using that being a hipster is not a real job," said Bell.

So there are jobs, the kids just won't do them.
Seems like the ads are right on to me.

Yep. You gotta pay your dues to get what you want in life. You don't just get shiat handed to you after getting your BA in Hipsterdom. I did manual labor for a few years to build up my resume and pay for school. Now I do what I love. Tada.


Exactly. I wonder what would happen if these hipsters realized the large salary that comes with things like shipbuilding could easily pay for all their hipsterism
 
2012-10-15 10:09:14 AM  
My son is one of them.
He could use a good kick in the pants.
 
2012-10-15 10:09:42 AM  
I can't say I've ever heard of "hipster" as a style of dress, so I don't think it can really be said that everyone knows.

That said, this article seems to have found one of the rarest things in the universe: people who actually admit to being hipsters.
 
2012-10-15 10:15:10 AM  

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: My son is one of them.
He could use a good kick in the pants.


Then what are you doing on FARK? You should be scheduling regular ass whippins every hour on the hour until he straightens the hell up.
 
2012-10-15 10:18:37 AM  
These ads are offensive and in poor taste because they imply youths are just sitting around and not wanting to gain employment

Well, yeah.
 
2012-10-15 10:22:33 AM  
But if they take those jobs, they won't be able to wear the blue-collar wardrobes ironically.
 
2012-10-15 10:30:30 AM  

WhiskeySticks:
Some of these kids are blazingly smart, they just last the work ethic and can't seem to find the log out button on facebook.


Kind of a given when you are stoned all day...
 
2012-10-15 11:17:04 AM  

Millennium: I can't say I've ever heard of "hipster" as a style of dress, so I don't think it can really be said that everyone knows.

That said, this article seems to have found one of the rarest things in the universe: people who actually admit to being hipsters.


I define hipster as this: An extremely brand-conscious consumer with anachronistic tendencies. Some may attempt DIY production of food or items out of the belief that they can make things better (but at many times the cost) than established industry. Others will buy into these efforts.

So they embrace identity-centered brands like Apple or Prius, but also end up seeming anachronistic by spending lots of time and money investing in obscure, low-quality alternatives to mass-produced goods like beer, music, clothing, bicycles, food, or anything else. They percieve themselves as Avant Garde for this reason.
 
2012-10-15 11:21:10 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Some of these kids are blazingly smart, they just last the work ethic and can't seem to find the log out button on facebook.


You and I have different definitions of "smart". They may score well on intelligence tests, but their decision making process precludes most of them from being "smart".
 
2012-10-15 11:21:59 AM  
FTFA: "These ads are offensive and in poor taste because they imply youths are just sitting around and not wanting to gain employment,"

Instead they should be implying that youths are just sitting around whining about advertising campaigns that hurt their feelings.
 
2012-10-15 11:32:28 AM  

cgraves67: Millennium: I can't say I've ever heard of "hipster" as a style of dress, so I don't think it can really be said that everyone knows.

That said, this article seems to have found one of the rarest things in the universe: people who actually admit to being hipsters.

I define hipster as this: An extremely brand-conscious consumer with anachronistic tendencies. Some may attempt DIY production of food or items out of the belief that they can make things better (but at many times the cost) than established industry. Others will buy into these efforts.

So they embrace identity-centered brands like Apple or Prius, but also end up seeming anachronistic by spending lots of time and money investing in obscure, low-quality alternatives to mass-produced goods like beer, music, clothing, bicycles, food, or anything else. They percieve themselves as Avant Garde for this reason.


All of these things are better if they aren't mass produced.
 
2012-10-15 11:38:14 AM  

cgraves67: Millennium: I can't say I've ever heard of "hipster" as a style of dress, so I don't think it can really be said that everyone knows.

That said, this article seems to have found one of the rarest things in the universe: people who actually admit to being hipsters.

I define hipster as this: An extremely brand-conscious consumer with anachronistic tendencies. Some may attempt DIY production of food or items out of the belief that they can make things better (but at many times the cost) than established industry. Others will buy into these efforts.

So they embrace identity-centered brands like Apple or Prius, but also end up seeming anachronistic by spending lots of time and money investing in obscure, low-quality alternatives to mass-produced goods like beer, music, clothing, bicycles, food, or anything else. They percieve themselves as Avant Garde for this reason.


They also wear their pants off of their asses and listen to the rap music that goes "boogie woogie baby wanna stick it in ya!" They should call it cRap music, amirite?
 
2012-10-15 11:49:26 AM  
There's no bachelor of hipsterdom offered and people understand hipster is a style of dress so it just doesn't make sense

Perhaps there's no degree, but there IS an occupation. It's called "social media expert", which is code for "tell everyone you know computers and marketing when you don't know jack sh*t about computers or marketing".
 
2012-10-15 11:51:23 AM  

qsblues: WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: My son is one of them.
He could use a good kick in the pants.

Then what are you doing on FARK? You should be scheduling regular ass whippins every hour on the hour until he straightens the hell up.


We could help...
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2012-10-15 12:26:09 PM  

imontheinternet: They were unemployed before it was cool.


I was anti-hipster before it was cool.
 
2012-10-15 12:43:49 PM  
www.crookedgremlins.com
Huey Lewis says: "It's hip to be a square employed ex-hipster! So shave off that ironic facial hair and bop on down to the job fair. Word!"

/Huey knows, man.
 
2012-10-15 01:02:48 PM  
Ironic that BC is spending $604,000 on advertising in the 604 area code...
 
2012-10-15 01:23:49 PM  
Butt Hurt - it's not just for American liberals anymore!

/NDerPers - Canada's endless source of poutrage entertainment
 
2012-10-15 01:46:33 PM  
A hipster wouldn't be caught dead applying for a govmt job. No no no.

Sous-chef in a vegan restaurant,
Factory manager in a shop that recycles canvas to make reusable grocery bags,
Barista in a fair-trade-only coffee bar,
Salesperson in a vintage clothing shop,
Creative consultant for a viral marketing company start-up . . .

Those are hipster-compatible jobs.
 
2012-10-15 01:49:07 PM  
Ship-building and industrial jobs that require x years industry experience for an entry level position, I'd wager.
 
2012-10-15 03:41:33 PM  
White boy: Look at the brother over there with his pants on the ground.
Other white Boy: What can we do to look silly. Can't be that, though, people would think we were copying.
White boy: How about the opposite? Skinny tight jeans? Maybe even wigh waisted? And andy thing else that is not hip hop. Like they like Newports/ we smoke Sprits, and PBR. Brotheres never touch that any more.
Other white boy: Mnnn. You onto sumpin'
 
2012-10-15 04:59:30 PM  
"Hipster" isn't a job. "Urban beekeeper store cashier" is.
 
2012-10-15 05:10:46 PM  
There is lots of work in BC. Maybe we should spend the $604,000 on matching up folks with jobs instead of giving it to f*ckwad marketing twits.
Hey, maybe they can spend thousands and become paramedics or ambulance attendants and work for that same gov't who will have them on call 75 hours a week and pay them sh*t.....
 
2012-10-15 06:56:49 PM  
I'm ashamed to be under 30. My generation really is lazy and lacks the work ethic of our parents and grandparents.

It's really easy for a reasonably literate person to get the training needed for an $60,000+/year job. It's just that it's going to be a job involving WORK - like lifting stuff and being outside. My generation seems to think a BA in history entitles them to a corner office and 10:00-4:00 hours with $80k + benefits.

Sorry folks, but we're not worth that yet. We have to work for it and build up years of marketable skills and experience.

/28 with a BA in history
//happy to start at the bottom rung
 
2012-10-15 07:49:25 PM  
"These ads are offensive and in poor taste because they imply youths are just sitting around and not wanting to gain employment," said Katie Marocchi, chairperson of the Canadian Federation of Students in B.C. "It shows how this government is disconnected from reality when they insist there's no money to invest in post-secondary and then they spend money telling us it's all our fault."

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Seriously folks, get on them jobs. Your bleating is only making you look lazier.
 
2012-10-15 08:16:09 PM  

New Age Redneck: There is lots of work in BC for baby boomers. Maybe we should spend the $604,000 on matching up folks with jobs instead of giving it to f*ckwad marketing twits


Fixed.
 
2012-10-15 08:42:53 PM  
A hipster is a postmodern without an original thought. Next...


"These ads are offensive and in poor taste because they imply youths are just sitting around and not wanting to gain employment,"

Yes, but they're sitting around doing ART. In fact, just sitting around is art. See my first statement - no original thoughts. WTF else are they supposed to do?

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"Your revolution is over, Mr. Lebowski. Condolences. The bums lost. My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. "
 
2012-10-15 08:52:10 PM  
Inasmuch how everyfarker is jumping on the hipster assumption - the reason why the ads are offensive is that the unemployment is not for want of looking. Every position advertised gets hundreds of resumes, in my small city of 100,000. It's even more crazy in Vancouver.
 
2012-10-15 09:01:06 PM  
IceCube85

I disagree, anyone complaining they can't find work isn't trying. I see 15 year old kids going treeplanting, lots of college kids going forest fire fighting, 20'somethings going to Ft. Mac for oil patch work, local smelter is begging for casuals, etc....
As well there is a serious shortage of trades people in general; someone here will pay you well and send you to school.

I would way rather see gov't funds go to training, education, even hiring subsidies or relocation....anything but f*cking marketing campaigns....maybe that's just me...as well perhaps my sample is biased but most of the folks I know in their late teens and twenties have their sh*t way more together than my generation seemed to.
 
2012-10-15 09:20:41 PM  

offmymeds: imontheinternet: They were unemployed before it was cool.

I was anti-hipster before it was cool.


I was doing things before they were cool before hipsters existed.

/i'm also kinda obscure, though, so it's understandable that you've never heard of me
 
2012-10-15 10:31:08 PM  

Gortex: I'm ashamed to be under 30. My generation really is lazy and lacks the work ethic of our parents and grandparents.

It's really easy for a reasonably literate person to get the training needed for an $60,000+/year job. It's just that it's going to be a job involving WORK - like lifting stuff and being outside. My generation seems to think a BA in history entitles them to a corner office and 10:00-4:00 hours with $80k + benefits.

Sorry folks, but we're not worth that yet. We have to work for it and build up years of marketable skills and experience.

/28 with a BA in history
//happy to start at the bottom rung


it reads like you feel people should abandon their BA in history and take a job in construction or in a warehouse. the pay scale must be incredible where you live to make $60K as a laborer.

but i dig where you are coming from. everyone (except for the well to do connected) have to start at the beginning, and it takes time and work to move up and make more. it certainly does.
 
2012-10-15 10:53:50 PM  

Gortex: I'm ashamed to be under 30. My generation really is lazy and lacks the work ethic of our parents and grandparents.

It's really easy for a reasonably literate person to get the training needed for an $60,000+/year job. It's just that it's going to be a job involving WORK - like lifting stuff and being outside. My generation seems to think a BA in history entitles them to a corner office and 10:00-4:00 hours with $80k + benefits.

Sorry folks, but we're not worth that yet. We have to work for it and build up years of marketable skills and experience.

/28 with a BA in history
//happy to start at the bottom rung


What kind of job do you get 60k of the bat?
 
2012-10-16 12:20:53 AM  

links136: Gortex: I'm ashamed to be under 30. My generation really is lazy and lacks the work ethic of our parents and grandparents.

It's really easy for a reasonably literate person to get the training needed for an $60,000+/year job. It's just that it's going to be a job involving WORK - like lifting stuff and being outside. My generation seems to think a BA in history entitles them to a corner office and 10:00-4:00 hours with $80k + benefits.

Sorry folks, but we're not worth that yet. We have to work for it and build up years of marketable skills and experience.

/28 with a BA in history
//happy to start at the bottom rung

What kind of job do you get 60k of the bat?


Like New Age Redneck suggested... You leave BC and go to Alberta to work up at Fort Mac, because that's where the jobs are. They aren't in this province, they're in the next one.
 
2012-10-16 12:37:35 AM  

New Age Redneck: IceCube85

I disagree, anyone complaining they can't find work isn't trying. I see 15 year old kids going treeplanting, lots of college kids going forest fire fighting, 20'somethings going to Ft. Mac for oil patch work, local smelter is begging for casuals, etc....
As well there is a serious shortage of trades people in general; someone here will pay you well and send you to school.


Treeplanting is seasonal.

Around here, the local pulp mill burned down to the ground. The owners promised to rebuild the plant if they could get a reasonable amount of money from the municipal government. The government cut a check for them to start rebuilding so that all the mill workers could get back to work. The second the money made it to the owners hands, they took the money and fled the country.

A sawmill also burned down to the ground due to sawdust and a single spark. Several more people got laid off and there were vague promises to rebuild, but most people around here aren't holding out hope (myself included).

Local post office. Someone I knew recently retired. Got excited because there might be a way to get something. Rather than replace him, the position was deleted. No one got hired to fill the gap.

Local hospital. Someone I knew worked in a hospital who recently retired. Thought I had a way to get a job. same story. As soon as she left, the position was deleted and the work was shifted onto other people already working there. Not only that, but the plans are to outsource the whole department in the next few months.

Call centers are the obvious answer of course... until both closed down and skipped town three years ago. That screwed over a bunch of students. The entire downtown core looks like something out of the great depression (only in colour) The only business that has stuck around for longer than 3 years is run by the local mob. Every other store is boarded up, spray painted and a chewed up "For Sale" sign barely hanging on by one last corner before it blows away in the wind.

Blanketed the city with resume's and the only job I could find was the standard "you want fries with that" job years ago. Eventually quit when another position came up elsewhere, but the entire staff was laid off within a month and I was out of work. Completing an education for now to get multiple pieces of paper to show I'm smarter then the average tree stump, but the only people that are getting hired are people who are 50 and over. "Oh, they have experience." was the standard excuse.

But hey, challenge accepted, I'll look into your suggestions.

I would way rather see gov't funds go to training, education, even hiring subsidies or relocation....anything but f*cking marketing campaigns....maybe that's just me...as well perhaps my sample is biased but most of the folks I know in their late teens and twenties have their sh*t way more together than my generation seemed to.

I agree with the marketing thing. The "Canada's Economic Action Plan" is a sorry joke. At most, a government propaganda campaign with a few businesses saying how awesome their business is. Then again, Harper thinks he can run the country with oil subsidies and press releases, so it doesn't surprise me. I'll never forget when they plastered a poster at the local pool. Said how the government is building facilities for Canadian prosperity. The building has been around since the Liberals had a majority government. Nothing changed about that building except the new sign. There was the sign posted near the expansion of a highway. The expansion was all municipal and provincial. Federal, I'm convinced, did diddly squat except sticking a sign in the ground and proclaiming they were the hero's of it all. The highway is finished, no one is working on it anymore. It's a patch of cement on dirt and yet it's "creating jobs" still. Uh huh.

Yeah, our samples must be vastly different. Some people I knew were going to school, then working a job after (sometimes two which is a little beyond me how you can work two part time jobs and a full course load on top of it all without going at least a little nuts after a while or sacrificing something somewhere along the line from the work or school). Either way, not exactly lazy in my books anyway.

Went to a lot of big box, part time, minimum wage-filled retail stores and every one had the same story. You could probably go through the entire list of degrees in existence, pick one at random and find someone who's working there with that degree. Computer science, business, physics, engineering, mathematics, law, anything. I can accept some people are there because they chose not to pursue their degree, but all of them? That's a little tougher to believe they are ALL there because they decided to do diddly squat with their degree. Those were the lucky ones I might add. Know lots of people who are running around screaming, "FFS, just hire me already!!!" for two years plus.

But yeah, some of us don't have work. Not because we are lazy, but because the jobs don't exist in the first place that can pay the rent of a flea infested one bedroom dump.
 
2012-10-16 12:47:10 AM  

starsrift: links136: Gortex: I'm ashamed to be under 30. My generation really is lazy and lacks the work ethic of our parents and grandparents.

It's really easy for a reasonably literate person to get the training needed for an $60,000+/year job. It's just that it's going to be a job involving WORK - like lifting stuff and being outside. My generation seems to think a BA in history entitles them to a corner office and 10:00-4:00 hours with $80k + benefits.

Sorry folks, but we're not worth that yet. We have to work for it and build up years of marketable skills and experience.

/28 with a BA in history
//happy to start at the bottom rung

What kind of job do you get 60k of the bat?

Like New Age Redneck suggested... You leave BC and go to Alberta to work up at Fort Mac, because that's where the jobs are. They aren't in this province, they're in the next one.


That always bothered me about Canada. In BC and want to find work? Move to Alberta. In Ontario and want to find work? Move to Alberta. Live in Quebec and want to find work? Move to Alberta. Is only one province allowed to have growth of some sort? The province depends on resource extraction. Just about every knowledgeable person in economics I've talked to say that resource extraction is boom and bust. What happens if oil prices crash for an unexpected reason? Does that mean Canada's screwed?
 
2012-10-16 01:07:06 AM  

IceCube85: starsrift: links136: Gortex: I'm ashamed to be under 30. My generation really is lazy and lacks the work ethic of our parents and grandparents.

It's really easy for a reasonably literate person to get the training needed for an $60,000+/year job. It's just that it's going to be a job involving WORK - like lifting stuff and being outside. My generation seems to think a BA in history entitles them to a corner office and 10:00-4:00 hours with $80k + benefits.

Sorry folks, but we're not worth that yet. We have to work for it and build up years of marketable skills and experience.

/28 with a BA in history
//happy to start at the bottom rung

What kind of job do you get 60k of the bat?

Like New Age Redneck suggested... You leave BC and go to Alberta to work up at Fort Mac, because that's where the jobs are. They aren't in this province, they're in the next one.

That always bothered me about Canada. In BC and want to find work? Move to Alberta. In Ontario and want to find work? Move to Alberta. Live in Quebec and want to find work? Move to Alberta. Is only one province allowed to have growth of some sort? The province depends on resource extraction. Just about every knowledgeable person in economics I've talked to say that resource extraction is boom and bust. What happens if oil prices crash for an unexpected reason? Does that mean Canada's screwed?


Alot more than canada is farked
 
2012-10-16 01:14:11 AM  
IceCube85 

Are you up north? Things are probably tighter than here in the Kootenays. That said, we've had some pretty thin times here as well, much of the work is indeed seasonal. I agree it sucks that you have to leave to find work, but check out places like Estevan, Sask. they are begging for people to work in the oil patch. Go do 6 months, make a pile of coin, that gives you a little financial padding while you try and find something here....
 
2012-10-16 01:39:51 AM  

New Age Redneck: IceCube85 

Are you up north? Things are probably tighter than here in the Kootenays. That said, we've had some pretty thin times here as well, much of the work is indeed seasonal. I agree it sucks that you have to leave to find work, but check out places like Estevan, Sask. they are begging for people to work in the oil patch. Go do 6 months, make a pile of coin, that gives you a little financial padding while you try and find something here....


Yup, Northern interior. One of the many things I've been tempted to do is take pictures of the economic ruin and Photoshop in a "Canada's Economic Action Plan" sign in each one and posting them somewhere.

Taking notes for sure right now.
 
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