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(Daily Mail)   Not content to let some punkass soft-drink-swilling Eurotrash have all the glory, Gen. Chuck Yeager decides to break the speed of sound on the 65th anniversary of the day he did it first, just because he can   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 33
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2012-10-14 09:29:59 PM  
6 votes:
Hey Felix. You got any Beemans?
2012-10-14 10:48:14 PM  
4 votes:

BronyMedic: fusillade762: Yeah, but that punkass soft-drink-swilling Eurotrash didn't even use a plane.

Now if you'll excuse me I must be back to my hotel and practice my affectations.

Yes, but that punk-ass, soft-drink swilling Eurotrash did it in the age of modern material science and space travel. Chuck Yeager did it in a day and time when it was thought by many that breaking the sound barrier was impossible for a fixed wing aircraft. Many people expected the X-1 to just fall apart.


And he did it with a couple of broken ribs. Improvised a handle so he could secure the canopy door.
That would never, ever happen in today's risk-averse environment.

/Actually, today somebody, somewhere would file a suit preventing the flight from ever happening
//Noise might scare somebody's sheep, or disturb a flock of birds or something.
2012-10-14 09:13:53 PM  
3 votes:
The Right Stuff
2012-10-14 11:08:16 PM  
2 votes:

BronyMedic: . Many people expected the X-1 to just fall apart.


There were people going around until today saying it wouldn't be possible to survive falling at supersonic speed. To quote Joe Kittinger from the press conference "I'd like to give a special one fingered salute to those people who said he would come apart going through the speed of sound".
2012-10-14 10:45:20 PM  
2 votes:

fusillade762: Yeah, but that punkass soft-drink-swilling Eurotrash didn't even use a plane.

Now if you'll excuse me I must be back to my hotel and practice my affectations.


Yes, but that punk-ass, soft-drink swilling Eurotrash did it in the age of modern material science and space travel. Chuck Yeager did it in a day and time when it was thought by many that breaking the sound barrier was impossible for a fixed wing aircraft. Many people expected the X-1 to just fall apart.
2012-10-14 10:42:39 PM  
2 votes:
Put the spurs to it pard....
I think I broke the mach meter, its acting screwy.
Go ahead a break it...we'll fix it.
Can you imagine sitting around a hanger at the flight test center in the 50's & 60's
with people like Jack Ridley, Bob Hoover, Chuck Yeager, Bob Cardenas?
Man...the stories they could tell. Having a beer at Pancho's....
2012-10-14 10:33:54 PM  
2 votes:
www.allvideo.org

Best flight sim ever.

Also, I recall reading in a biography of his that he was the only person to have confirmed kills from the air in WW2, Korea, and Nam.
2012-10-14 10:11:34 PM  
2 votes:

sno man: Hey Felix. You got any Beemans?


Yeah, I believe I've got a stick.
2012-10-14 09:51:33 PM  
2 votes:
Can you imagine how cool that was for the pilot? Probably 28 years old, here he gets to take Chuck farking Yeager for a ride. Hot damn.
2012-10-14 09:19:09 PM  
2 votes:
Yeah, but that punkass soft-drink-swilling Eurotrash didn't even use a plane.

Now if you'll excuse me I must be back to my hotel and practice my affectations.
2012-10-16 01:44:17 PM  
1 votes:

just_intonation: Completely agree, though I'm sure someone is going to try (or has already -- I haven't read the rest of the comments yet).


The nice thing about a salute is that you can show respect for a person's accomplishments without giving them the opportunity to open their mouth. The old saying is you salute the rank, not the man... which is a perfectly fitting way to deal with people like Gen. Yeager.

I can respect his accomplishments in the cockpit while still acknowledging that he's not a nice person.
2012-10-15 04:10:31 PM  
1 votes:

rico567: This. Why do people expect those who do extraordinary things to conform to some PC checklist? I've met a few of the Type "A" people who do the sorts of things Yeager did. They would be considered assholes by many....but they're not going away, and we'd be poorer for it if they did.


I don't really care what he's like on a personal level.. He's hardly the only sexist in his generation.

It's the hero worship I can't stand. He did something fairly remarkable in aeronautical history, but for the better part of the 65 years since, he's been deified for it, and nobody has bought the hype or sought to safe guard the lifelong attention it garnered more than Chuck himself. Which is fine, he can be that guy if he wants to be, I guess. It's not hard to find documented cases of his oneupmanship with peers, or his revisionist/inflated views of his role in history. If you care to look, you quickly realize that he's far more concerned with his own legend than being honest.

Where he crossed the line in my books is when Scott Crossfield died. Within a couple days, Yeager publicly said what amounted to "he always was kind of a marginal pilot, unlike me." Thanks to the cult of Yeager, lots of people believed him. Actively trashing other people's legacy in order to bolster your own is unacceptable in a public figure.

It'd be like Neil Armstrong continually taking every opportunity to remind the world that he landed the lunar lander, he was first down the ladder and Buzz was just along for the ride. Armstrong didn't do anything like that, and is worthy of respect, both personal and professional. Yeager doesn't deserve both of those things.
2012-10-15 07:57:11 AM  
1 votes:
I got to meet Gen. Yeager in 2005. Came into my base to get a prescription filled and I was working the front desk. I looked at his ID card and thought the name looked really familiar and about 2 seconds later I got this overwhelmingly giddy feeling. Shook his hand, told him it was an honor meeting him. Super nice guy, signed a few autographs, grabbed his meds, and was gone.

/csb I know
//don't care. got to meet the man, the legend.
//slashies come in threes.
2012-10-15 06:28:36 AM  
1 votes:

whidbey: I'm down with Chuck Yeager.

As long has he hasn't turned into a total Teabagger dipsh*t in his golden years.


typical shallow jackass. "as long as he agrees with my political bullshiat, I like him."
2012-10-15 01:40:06 AM  
1 votes:

whidbey: Nice to know that in your mind, progressive ideology is something people just pretend to do, and don't actually follow it, and if they did, then somehow it's a form of mental retardation.

I can only imagine what your Thanksgivings are like.


Is Yeager a prominent political figure? Does he threaten you in some way? Do you have to like him on a personal level to congratulate him for being an important figure in American history?

You have more in common with Teabaggers than you think -- you, too, are always looking for a reason to stay pissed off.
2012-10-15 01:20:20 AM  
1 votes:

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: whidbey: puppetmaster745: whidbey: I'm down with Chuck Yeager.

As long has he hasn't turned into a total Teabagger dipsh*t in his golden years.

fark you.

lol I'll BET HE WANTS SMALLER GOVERNMENT.

I looked at your profile--pretty funny !

I mean you are pretending to be a libtard, right?


Nice to know that in your mind, progressive ideology is something people just pretend to do, and don't actually follow it, and if they did, then somehow it's a form of mental retardation.

I can only imagine what your Thanksgivings are like.
2012-10-15 01:08:02 AM  
1 votes:

Dave The Slushy: costermonger: Yeager is almost as famous for being an egomaniacal, arrogant, sexist piece of shiat as he is for breaking the speed of sound. Almost.

Is he also racist? If he is, him and the Duke of Edinburgh (The Queen's hubby for you seperatists) should get fully drunk and the resultant slurs recorded for prosperity.

/At their age, it'll only take a couple.


I have no earthly idea, but I like your idea in any case.
2012-10-15 01:05:33 AM  
1 votes:

costermonger: Yeager is almost as famous for being an egomaniacal, arrogant, sexist piece of shiat as he is for breaking the speed of sound. Almost.


Is he also racist? If he is, him and the Duke of Edinburgh (The Queen's hubby for you seperatists) should get fully drunk and the resultant slurs recorded for prosperity.

/At their age, it'll only take a couple.
2012-10-15 12:56:29 AM  
1 votes:
Yeager is almost as famous for being an egomaniacal, arrogant, sexist piece of shiat as he is for breaking the speed of sound. Almost.
2012-10-15 12:21:45 AM  
1 votes:

Maxor: Kind of cool that he did that, amazed that they didn't use a T-38 for the commemoration today.
1. Yeager has always been a fan of that plane (has stated on a couple of occasions publicly it was his favorite.


Actually, it was the F-20 he was enamored of.
Basically a T-38/F-5 body, but with an F-16 engine.

/Yeager was a paid spokesman
//still, it was a good, cheap.fighter
2012-10-15 12:12:39 AM  
1 votes:

Repo Man: My great uncle is a WW-2 vet, and I respect him for that. But he went off the deep end after 9/11, and I haven't spoken to him in about eight years.


My WWII vet uncle developed a speech disability a few months before 9/11. He couldn't pronounce the h in Ashcroft right for some reason, it turned into an s.

Not all old WWII vets have turned into teabaggers.
2012-10-15 12:09:48 AM  
1 votes:
He's from Myra, just down the holler from my kin in West-by-God.
2012-10-14 11:48:29 PM  
1 votes:

WelldeadLink: Mikey1969: I think it's awesome that they had to postpone the jump so that it happened on this date, it couldn't have worked out better. These guys are both such big studs that they make all other studs look like pu**ies.

Did the faller really go supersonic? I think he fell faster than the speed of sound at sea level, but he was always subsonic in the air which he was falling through. He'd have to go a lot faster at 100,000 feet of altitude to go supersonic.


I'm a former NASA parachute engineer so I'm really getting a kick out of........

You need to go learn something. Speed of sound is lower up there. He was easily supersonic. No tricks.

/Here you go. This is accurate: http://www.redbullstratos.com/science/speed-of-sound/
2012-10-14 11:46:03 PM  
1 votes:
Hoover should have flown the chase plane this time as well.

/Bob was a better pilot, and he's the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet.
2012-10-14 11:44:51 PM  
1 votes:

WelldeadLink: Mikey1969: I think it's awesome that they had to postpone the jump so that it happened on this date, it couldn't have worked out better. These guys are both such big studs that they make all other studs look like pu**ies.

Did the faller really go supersonic? I think he fell faster than the speed of sound at sea level, but he was always subsonic in the air which he was falling through. He'd have to go a lot faster at 100,000 feet of altitude to go supersonic.


The speed of sound is lower as the air gets thinner, so yes, he did break the sound barrier.
From the Stratos website:

"Breaking the speed of sound refers to catching up with - and surpassing - the speed at which sound waves are produced in the air. The speed of sound is affected by temperature: where the air is colder, sound travels more slowly. At about 100,000 feet above sea level, Felix Baumgartner will need to accelerate to about 690 miles per hour to match the speed of sound, known as Mach 1. Then if he continues to accelerate and surpasses the speed of sound, he'll be "supersonic."

Now I'd be -really- impressed if something could break the sound barrier in water (which is even faster...4871 fps or 3321 MPH in water that is roughly room temperature)
2012-10-14 11:26:37 PM  
1 votes:

aspAddict: In the late 80's, they flew the Enola Gay into Hill Air Force Base in Utah as part of their air show


The Enola Gay has been at the Smithsonian for 50+ years
2012-10-14 11:24:41 PM  
1 votes:

whidbey: I'm down with Chuck Yeager.

As long has he hasn't turned into a total Teabagger dipsh*t in his golden years.


He almost certainly has (read the testimonials in this thread). I meet lots of people of his generation, and they generally think I'm a nice young man, and we get along fine. But you don't ever, ever want the subject to turn towards politics, because then you find out what awful things some of these nice old folks believe. You just nod and smile politely, and take the first opportunity that comes along to steer the subject to something else.

My great uncle is a WW-2 vet, and I respect him for that. But he went off the deep end after 9/11, and I haven't spoken to him in about eight years.
2012-10-14 11:14:14 PM  
1 votes:

RocketRay: I know a few people who have met him and unfortunately he's a grade A sexist douchebag. After one of these PR sound barrier anniversary flights a female lieutenant saluted and told him she'd show him to the officer's club. He barked at another officer to get him a "real lieutenant" to show him the way.


He's not really sexist. He is a mega a$$hole to everyone. His Dbaggery is legendary along the airshow circuit. He made horrible comments when Scott Crossfield died. In his biography he went out of his way to crap on Crossfield and Neil Armstrong. Also embellishing events of when he crossed paths with them. He also ran a plane off the side of a runway trying to land a few years ago.
2012-10-14 11:11:52 PM  
1 votes:

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: He's a general!?


He was promoted to Brigadier General in 1969, and retired at that rank in 1975.

He was promoted to Major General (retired) in 2005.  (The same act of Congress also promoted Billy Mitchell posthumously to Major General, essentially exonerating him from his 1925 Court Martial for publicly stating that bombers could easily destroy battleships and air power was the way of the future instead of massive battleship fleets)
2012-10-14 11:07:38 PM  
1 votes:
I think it's awesome that they had to postpone the jump so that it happened on this date, it couldn't have worked out better. These guys are both such big studs that they make all other studs look like pu**ies.

I would bet that Yeager wouldn't deny Felix his moment in the sun either. I'm sure he admires the man for the jump.


BTW: I REALLY hate the Daily Fail format. Sure, they have a lot of cool pics, but a giant picture, then scroll down to a sentence or two, then scroll down to a caption or two that repeats something in the story, and it takes you 10 minutes to read a webpage that has about 3 paragraphs worth of info. It's even worse when one of the stories is fashion related, you see six pics of some celebrity with stupid puns and nothing actually interesting to say.
2012-10-14 10:52:09 PM  
1 votes:
Stands up and silently salutes General Yeager

/Some things don't need to be cheapened by words
2012-10-14 10:51:28 PM  
1 votes:
Chuck is the original badass. Read his autobiography if you haven't. The stuff he did and would walk away from - amazing.
2012-10-14 10:49:25 PM  
1 votes:

nytmare: Then who's the famous pilot whose plane strayed off course over the southwestern states a few years ago and they never found him?


Are you thinking of Steve Fossett?
 
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