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(Charleston Post and Courier)   Speaker runs off stage in tears after she's heckled by students destined to live in a van down by the river   (postandcourier.com) divider line 44
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2012-10-14 11:12:31 PM
4 votes:
Maybe the 90+% of teens who DON'T drink and driver are sick of hearing sob stories, condescending lectures, and/or simplistic moralizing from any idiot the school district can get to come and talk.

I'm an adult who doesn't drive drunk and I'm sick of hearing/seeing the messages and it's not nearly as condescending, trite, simplistic, or unrealistic as that aimed at teens.

When a significant number simply don't drink, and the vast majority of those who do drink do not drive drunk, you're bound to test the limits of how much insulting time wasting lectures they're willing to take.

Put yourself in their shoes. How many assemblies like this would all of us as adults put up with? How many times would your job have to bring you to a meeting/assembly of the kind schools do before you stopped paying attention or even engaged in a little taunting? Granted, adults would be a little more tactful, but anyone paying attention would realize that the vast majority are sick of this kind of meeting and showing it to the presenter.
2012-10-14 09:40:30 PM
4 votes:
I hate to tell you, fellow Farkers and Farkettes, but drunk drivers on the road is a serious problem. Pretty cool she goes around telling kids not to fark up like I did.

Got a DUI in 2000 myself. The expense was bad enough but I was shocked, yes, SHOCKED, when I went through the mandatory safety classes.

Besides having to pay for them up front, we had one dude show up the first night hammered. He blew 0.32 as we are all breathalyzed when we come in. The scary part was that he was pretty much walking and talking normally. They tossed him out along with any late comers as it was like basic training mode there.

Then I had to attend a victims impact panel in the county courthouse where people who were involved in horrific DUI crashes tell their stories of injuries and dead family from drunk drivers. That night, they didn't breathalyze us but they should have. The asshat next to me smelled like a distillery.

Really, don't drink and drive. It's not worth the hassles and heartache one could cause.
2012-10-14 11:53:24 PM
3 votes:
ftfa: Panzau speaks while wearing shorts and a tank-top shirt

is that acceptable dress code in any public school?

also, she's a paid spokesperson for one of the biggest alcohol distributors / manufacturers / promoters. so.... who cares?

also, it's very funny to heckle paid entertainment at high schools. you get out of class for an hour, some dick talks shiat, and you yell obscene comments at them. good times are had by all.
2012-10-14 11:42:40 PM
3 votes:

zez: So if acts normal and the only difference is a number, what's the problem?


Because 99% of the population won't, and we know this by scientific investigation. If you want an exception to the rule when you break it, go argue it in court. Just because you think you're good to drive after downing a six pack in an hour, doesn't mean you are, and it doesn't mean you're not impaired.

And don't give me that crap about driving while texting, or driving while distracted. You should get pulled the fark over for doing that, too.

Aside from the fact that you're driving a three thousand pound missile at sixty to seventy miles an hour highway speed, and being a selfish asshole for endangering the lives of everyone around you, and the ones who will come save your ass when you wreck.

/love it. Blood Alcohol's like..only a number man!
2012-10-14 11:08:31 PM
3 votes:
She is supposedly a professional speaker and she got rattled by a high school kid? She needs a new job.
2012-10-14 06:12:25 PM
3 votes:
FTFA: "State DUI accident records show South
Carolina teenagers could greatly benefit
from her warnings. In 2010, state and local
law enforcement responded to 357 alcohol-
impaired driving fatalities; at least 38 of
them involved drivers, passengers or
pedestrians who were under 21."

What the fark do passengers and pedestrians under 21 have to do with underage drinking and driving? Way to pad those numbers.
2012-10-14 11:46:50 PM
2 votes:
Though she doesn't know exactly what was said, it was enough to end her talk. "I said, 'This is my life, and there's nothing funny about it.'?"

I am sorry sugar tits but a woman with one arm because she drove after drinking is a treasure trove of comedy... your life is figuratively and literally a joke. My advice? Learn to live with it.
2012-10-14 11:29:06 PM
2 votes:

zez: AirForceVet: we had one dude show up the first night hammered. He blew 0.32 as we are all breathalyzed when we come in. The scary part was that he was pretty much walking and talking normally

So if acts normal and the only difference is a number, what's the problem?


Easy, my child. Just two points.

1) Drug tolerance doesn't not make one sober.

2) If you can't stop doing something for a simple class (and lose over $200 to pay it again later), you probably have a real problem.

/Good night.
//And have a pleasant tomorrow.
2012-10-14 11:09:20 PM
2 votes:

ToxicMunkee: It's okay. Those douchebag kids will go home where they're worshipped by their parents.


Yes, the parents that desperately wish they were still in high school too and just want to be awesomest friends ever with their kids.

There's a seriously shortage of steely eyed take-no-shiat hardass parents out there.
2012-10-14 11:05:02 PM
2 votes:

calbert: /obscure?


Are you asking if one of the most popular characters from one of the longest running shows on one of the major networks, a character that is referenced in the headline, no less, is obscure?

Because yes... yes it is.
2012-10-14 11:03:11 PM
2 votes:
Read the article and missed the part about running off in tears. Can somebody enlighten me?
2012-10-14 11:02:10 PM
2 votes:
Do lectures like this reduce the rate of drunk driving?

Is she doing good work or just milking her tragedy for her own profit?
2012-10-14 11:01:09 PM
2 votes:
Eh, it's hard for me to find sympathy for people like this. She farked up and endangered innocent people, but then exploits the fark up to earn a living? biatch needs to get a real job, like drumming for a hair metal band.
2012-10-14 11:00:18 PM
2 votes:
She had a DUI. She deserves ridicule.
2012-10-15 08:23:36 AM
1 votes:
WOW. Been out of high school for 37 years, and nothing has changed. No one has learned anything. People still drive drunk and kill people and kids are still undisciplined assholes. No one will take responsibility to bring them up right so they have no personal responsibility ingrained in them. So they drink and drive. It's the circle of death.
No sense changing things now, what with how that's working out for our economy and all.
Seems like only yesterday, but it's been almost 40 years.
Back then, when a kid wrecked their car, they parked the bloody scrap heap on the lawn of the school for an entire week, or month. A momument to "Watch your asses, you snot nosed shaits. This can and will happen to you, if you don't"
Not today's kids, nope, they bubble wrap them all the way to combat. Then, they are on their own. Nice parenting. Nice citizenship in the nation, folks. Just keep pumping those crotch trophies out and bein' proud. You made a babby miracle, and that makes you a god.
2012-10-15 07:31:48 AM
1 votes:

LincolnLogolas: aevert: When I was in fifth grade we had some aerobic dance instructor come in and teach us all a bunch of dances. One thing she taught us was the Macarena. Right at the peak of the Macarena craze. After she gets through all the steps we stared booing her, but at least she had the composure to remain on stage.

Later we all had to write her an apology note.

I was out of school for a month, having appendicitis. Apparently, while I was gone, the school had Miss California come in as a motivational speaker. I guess she, at one point, had her dress pulled up by a group of students that mobbed her. Everyone in the school had to write a letter of apology to her. I had to complain to the dean that I shouldn't have to write it, on account of the fact that I wasn't even there.

Tl;Dr cool story bro


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You were educated in a zoo?
2012-10-15 06:53:01 AM
1 votes:

thisisarepeat: I got an "OUIL" in the late 90's in Michigan.I was 19, it was about 4:00am and foggy as I have ever seen, my vehicle was parked, my blood alcohol level was 0.02 (thats a DUI for anybody under 21) and some stupid fat biatch barreled into it at around 50 mph and farked up her knees, as well as totaling both of our vehicles. She sued my parents for $60,000. SO fark ALL OF YOU MADD MOTHERfarkERS, DIAF!!!! I'm glad your families died because you pieces of shiat deserve it .


So you were underaged, drinking when you knew the law, and got into an accident?

And you're glad innocent people have died because you made a stupid decision?

beijingdaze.com
2012-10-15 03:09:06 AM
1 votes:
But the problem with our schools is money. Not the people working in them who let things like this go on.
2012-10-15 02:23:27 AM
1 votes:

jj325: When I was in high school (late 70's) they bussed all of us kids to an auditorium to listen to David Toma talk about the dangers of drugs. A lot of catcalls and mocking--drugs were pretty popular back before all the Just Say No crap. But the guy didn't walk off in tears or anything. Guess kids are pretty much the same now
/Don't remember much except that we got early dismissal that day and it was nice out
//Bunch of us went to the park and took acid


They brought Toma to my high school in the 1980s. We weren't rude, but we weren't exactly paying attention, either.

The worst thing I was forced to attend was sensitivity training during undergrad. I was in a campus group, and some people got their undies in a knot over what a small group of people were doing. I wasn't one of them, but was forced to attend anyway.

I started asking them why I was being punished for something I didn't do. They insisted that it wasn't a punishment. I then asked why it was mandatory for someone who wasn't responsible.

That ended up derailing the entire meeting. Others chipped in and we had them on the defensive for the next three hours. They only presented about 10% of what they wanted to because we kept questioning them.

One of the presenters got a little weepy at the end because "no progress" had been made.

Oh, my favorite part was when they tried to segregate everyone by race to point out various sensitive things. One guy who had a white mother and a black father kept switching back and forth between the white and black groupings, pretending to be serious. Hysterical and the presenters had no idea how to handle it.
2012-10-15 02:16:59 AM
1 votes:
Who remembers the movie "Red Asphalt"?
2012-10-15 01:02:22 AM
1 votes:
I remember the mandatory assemblies in school. the thing is myself along with several of my friends came from a time and area of the country where it was church every Sunday morning night and Wednesday evening. also we got paddled at school as well as getting a belt on our asses at home. the majority of us didn't get into trouble like this but because a few students got caught drinking and smoking weed, presumably everyone of us were on a path to nowhere. same thing with the sex is a bad thing assemblies. (yes we had those too) you can get aids from this this and this but not this. they even took us to the local prison for a "scared straight" type of program I can't recall but those of us who went none of us were above average troublemakers. funny thing is, the school didn't send home any kind of notes even saying "hey we are taking your kids here" let alone getting permission. even funnier, the prison broke out into a riot a week later. Parents wanted the principal's head on a chopping block for that one.

speaking of the classes, in Oklahoma, offenders have to go through ADSAC classes, regardless of whether it was alcohol or drugs, even if a vehicle was involved or not. Case in point: my 21 year old son who just happened to be 18 when this crap happened, got two tickets one for possession of marijuana and one for possession of paraphernalia. It was a homemade pipe and residue in the pipe. Firstly, it was a small hick town in Southeastern Oklahoma. Secondly it wasn't really even residue just burnt up ash in the bottom of the pipe which was an apple core.
My son got mad because we couldn't afford an attorney to get it thrown out (which after speaking to several in Oklahoma City we found out that if we had the $$ he would have walked) but he plead guilty and was fined $1000. He had just gotten his driver's license and under Oklahoma law, it was automatically suspended. He paid the fines and part of the sentence was to attend ADSAC classes to get his license back. The asshole in Durant after hearing his story and listening to mine and his stepmother explain how he knew he was in the wrong and had taken two drug tests both negative says, "well it appears you have a substance abuse problem and I think you need to take 24 hours of classes" (translated: we want your money)

the morale of the story (and I told my kid this) unless you get caught redhanded with the pipe to your lips and the actual weed in your possession, deny, deny deny. see the cops showed up to the house when nobody was there except for his 17 year old girlfriend (I ain't no lawyer but I believe she didn't have authority to grant police access to the house) they seen the pipe from the door and asked for permission to search and she said yes. he, along with her mother and the mother's boyfriend show up and even though my son said it was his, all three get tickets. go figure. I told him never ever admit to anything unless you are caught in the act and then if it's bad enough, say nothing and ask for a lawyer.

/yet another reason I wish that I had had him come live with us after my divorce from his mom was finalized
2012-10-15 12:49:54 AM
1 votes:

titwrench: quickdraw: titwrench: She is supposedly a professional speaker and she got rattled by a high school kid? She needs a new job.

She didn't cry and she wasn't rattled she just refused to continue in the face of blatant disrespect. More people should do that imo.

If she walked off the stage before she was finished she was rattled and not being professional. It's fine if she doesn't want to waste any more of her time, that's her choice but she sure as hell better not expect to get paid.


The school isn't paying her. But in any event there is no reason for her to continue if she is being heckled. You don't have to put up with disrespect - even if you are being paid to be there. Novel concept for some of you I guess. But trolls are a pain in the ass and often just not worth the hassle of being around.
2012-10-15 12:48:45 AM
1 votes:
Sounds like the students at Ashley Ridge High School lack discipline, I wonder how many will Darwin out after this spring's prom?
It also sounds like the county should take a good look at the faculty there so why they let things go so far out of control at a speaking event.
2012-10-15 12:15:16 AM
1 votes:

calbert: /obscure?


Thank you. It took me this long to realize posting the obvious reference and then asking if it's obscure is a new Fark joke. I'm sheepish that I thought the first five people who did it were simply idiots. You've taught me.

/rollin' with the times
2012-10-15 12:14:19 AM
1 votes:

Eugoogoolizer: There was a bully at our high school who was a real farking jerk. I didn't get any hassle from him but I remember kids in the lower grades going home in tears because of how mean he was to them. The night before graduation he rolled his car going 160 kph and flipped it end over end. He was drunk. He lived but was basically a vegetable after that. They brought him back to school the next year to see everyone but he couldn't recognize faces or really even speak and didn't even have basic motor control. The kids he used to pick on then proceeded to throw food at him. Being a bully is one thing but I don't think I'd ever wish an outcome like that on someone, if it was karma he must have done some truly evil shiat to someone.


The sad thing is he probably came for a horribly abusive home - most bullies do. They learn that behavior from the people they count on to show them how to act.
2012-10-15 12:10:43 AM
1 votes:

titwrench: She is supposedly a professional speaker and she got rattled by a high school kid? She needs a new job.


She didn't cry and she wasn't rattled she just refused to continue in the face of blatant disrespect. More people should do that imo.
2012-10-15 12:03:33 AM
1 votes:
Under TFA, there's a bunch of comments, several from students who were at the rally. According to them, the kids that were talking were straight-up ignoring the speaker, and just carrying on their own conversations. The laughter she heard? Not even directed at her.

They do admit that one kid said something that made her upset, and you find out in the comments that the speaker left the stage crying...they also admit to a bunch of them following her out to the parking lot to apologize on behalf of the stupid students who were rude to her by either their comments or not paying attention.

If all of what the students say is true, then this lady told the media after their apology, which makes her both a person who makes real bad decisions, and an attention whore. If what the students say isn't true & they never apologized...well, then, she'd still be a person who makes real bad decisions and is an attention whore.

/Can you tell that my sympathy store is closed for people who have gotten into accidents while DUI?
2012-10-14 11:59:23 PM
1 votes:
I made the mistake of driving a bit tipsy according to the law. My blood test came back as .081, legal limit is .080 where I live (2 months after I turned 21). For my community service I signed up to work for the Museum. At that time I didn't figure it would be to bad due to my interest in history.. Only to find out that the museum was asking volunteers to wrap bottles at a large local liqueur store. Good times. I get popped and have to work at a place that sales booze for community service.
2012-10-14 11:56:02 PM
1 votes:

aevert: When I was in fifth grade we had some aerobic dance instructor come in and teach us all a bunch of dances. One thing she taught us was the Macarena. Right at the peak of the Macarena craze. After she gets through all the steps we stared booing her, but at least she had the composure to remain on stage.

Later we all had to write her an apology note.


I was out of school for a month, having appendicitis. Apparently, while I was gone, the school had Miss California come in as a motivational speaker. I guess she, at one point, had her dress pulled up by a group of students that mobbed her. Everyone in the school had to write a letter of apology to her. I had to complain to the dean that I shouldn't have to write it, on account of the fact that I wasn't even there.

Tl;Dr cool story bro
2012-10-14 11:48:27 PM
1 votes:

doglover: I liked many of my high school speakers, but the anti- people make me physically ill. When they're not lying, they're exagerating and skewing numbers.


DARE people were the worst. They even knew the stuff they were teaching was blatant, fear mongering lies, and that was the hardest thing ever to swallow about the whole thing. Make drugs out to be the worst things ever so kids won't touch them was the tactic, and it failed so miserably it wasn't even funny.

I think the breaking point for me was in 10th grade, going through a DARE Trailer for the Tennessee Highway Patrol and seeing Weed put up in the same class as Crystal Meth in harm.
2012-10-14 11:45:45 PM
1 votes:

jaytkay: pedrop357: 'm an adult who doesn't drive drunk and I'm sick of hearing/seeing the messages and it's not nearly as condescending, trite, simplistic, or unrealistic as that aimed at teens.

No, adults can STFU and be polite.


For a time. Then we leave.

I liked many of my high school speakers, but the anti- people make me physically ill. When they're not lying, they're exagerating and skewing numbers.
2012-10-14 11:42:49 PM
1 votes:
There was a bully at our high school who was a real farking jerk. I didn't get any hassle from him but I remember kids in the lower grades going home in tears because of how mean he was to them. The night before graduation he rolled his car going 160 kph and flipped it end over end. He was drunk. He lived but was basically a vegetable after that. They brought him back to school the next year to see everyone but he couldn't recognize faces or really even speak and didn't even have basic motor control. The kids he used to pick on then proceeded to throw food at him. Being a bully is one thing but I don't think I'd ever wish an outcome like that on someone, if it was karma he must have done some truly evil shiat to someone.
2012-10-14 11:42:31 PM
1 votes:
drunk driving in america results in light sentences for killers because your government doesn't give a goddamn about you. i applaud the police and ambulance people who somehow find the strength to pick up the broken bodies that result from drunk driving night after night. i started losing friends & loved ones to drunk driving in high school. now that i'm old most people would not believe how long that list has grown. it gives me anger and sadness that never goes away.
2012-10-14 11:37:23 PM
1 votes:
Wow, a bunch of kids were rude.
Wow, a young adult couldn't handle a bunch of rude kids.
Wow, a young attention whore made a big deal out of both issues to push a no-drinking agenda.
2012-10-14 11:34:44 PM
1 votes:
Next time, just take the little farks to the morgue.
2012-10-14 11:26:09 PM
1 votes:

pedrop357: Maybe the 90+% of teens who DON'T drink and driver are sick of hearing sob stories, condescending lectures, and/or simplistic moralizing from any idiot the school district can get to come and talk.

I'm an adult who doesn't drive drunk and I'm sick of hearing/seeing the messages and it's not nearly as condescending, trite, simplistic, or unrealistic as that aimed at teens.

When a significant number simply don't drink, and the vast majority of those who do drink do not drive drunk, you're bound to test the limits of how much insulting time wasting lectures they're willing to take.

Put yourself in their shoes. How many assemblies like this would all of us as adults put up with? How many times would your job have to bring you to a meeting/assembly of the kind schools do before you stopped paying attention or even engaged in a little taunting? Granted, adults would be a little more tactful, but anyone paying attention would realize that the vast majority are sick of this kind of meeting and showing it to the presenter.


The assemblies with the paid hacks were the WORST. There's a good racket for "cleaned" up drunks and drug addicts doing bullshiat speaking gigs.
2012-10-14 11:17:57 PM
1 votes:

pedrop357: 'm an adult who doesn't drive drunk and I'm sick of hearing/seeing the messages and it's not nearly as condescending, trite, simplistic, or unrealistic as that aimed at teens.


No, adults can STFU and be polite.
2012-10-14 11:14:33 PM
1 votes:
When I was in high school (late 70's) they bussed all of us kids to an auditorium to listen to David Toma talk about the dangers of drugs. A lot of catcalls and mocking--drugs were pretty popular back before all the Just Say No crap. But the guy didn't walk off in tears or anything. Guess kids are pretty much the same now
/Don't remember much except that we got early dismissal that day and it was nice out
//Bunch of us went to the park and took acid
zez
2012-10-14 11:08:56 PM
1 votes:
I guess heckling students do deserve to live in a van down by the river.
2012-10-14 11:00:34 PM
1 votes:

ToxicMunkee: It's okay. Those douchebag kids will go home where they're worshipped by their parents.


Or, they'll be the ones that are drunk and wrapping their own cars around a phone pole at 100 mph, next weekend.
2012-10-14 10:45:52 PM
1 votes:

bow: PallMall: aimtastic: FTFA: "State DUI accident records show South
Carolina teenagers could greatly benefit
from her warnings. In 2010, state and local
law enforcement responded to 357 alcohol-
impaired driving fatalities; at least 38 of
them involved drivers, passengers or
pedestrians who were under 21."

What the fark do passengers and pedestrians under 21 have to do with underage drinking and driving? Way to pad those numbers.

"Alcohol related" means ANYONE involved in the accident... whether it was the driver or not.

Example: If a sober person ran over a pedestrian, and the pedestrian had ANY alcohol in their system (hospital checks for alcohol, etc before pumping you full of drugs) it is considered an "alcohol related" accident.

This is true. I work with crash data, and we have these problems all the time. It can get really confusing when you're reporting numbers like this. Actually, it usually depends on how the police officer filled out the crash report. Sometimes for alcohol related crashes, the officer doesn't even code who was drinking, so you can't separate out the pedestrians or bicyclists who were drinking when the driver was sober.


It's just a way to pad the numbers. If you hear "alcohol related", you assume it was a drunk driver.
2012-10-14 09:47:45 PM
1 votes:

AirForceVet: I hate to tell you, fellow Farkers and Farkettes, but drunk drivers on the road is a serious problem. Pretty cool she goes around telling kids not to fark up like I did.

Got a DUI in 2000 myself. The expense was bad enough but I was shocked, yes, SHOCKED, when I went through the mandatory safety classes.

Besides having to pay for them up front, we had one dude show up the first night hammered. He blew 0.32 as we are all breathalyzed when we come in. The scary part was that he was pretty much walking and talking normally. They tossed him out along with any late comers as it was like basic training mode there.

Then I had to attend a victims impact panel in the county courthouse where people who were involved in horrific DUI crashes tell their stories of injuries and dead family from drunk drivers. That night, they didn't breathalyze us but they should have. The asshat next to me smelled like a distillery.

Really, don't drink and drive. It's not worth the hassles and heartache one could cause.


My brother-in-law got a DUI, screwed up his delivery job, and he can't start his car without blowing into it. It's pretty faulty, and if it screws up, even if he is sober, automatic fine.
2012-10-14 05:18:48 PM
1 votes:
She's allegedly been doing this ten years and she got upset NOW?

This is typical kid stuff. Every single teacher puts up with this every single day.
2012-10-14 05:07:55 PM
1 votes:
I read the first few words and immediately thought of bohner.
 
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