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(Huffington Post)   Is a program that isn't implemented until 2014 responsible for the meningitis outbreak? Dr. Blogger reports, you decide   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 71
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2012-10-14 02:01:04 PM  
Reading is fundamental:

Recently, much of the upgrade at the state health departments has been possible due to the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, which allocated $270 million for public health infrastructure training as well as research and tracking.

I'll admit I didn't know about that either.
 
2012-10-14 02:09:33 PM  

St_Francis_P: Reading is fundamental:

Recently, much of the upgrade at the state health departments has been possible due to the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, which allocated $270 million for public health infrastructure training as well as research and tracking.

I'll admit I didn't know about that either.


But of course: Unfortunately, such support for state health departments is often inaccurately called a "slush fund," and is at risk of being cut.
 
2012-10-14 02:19:34 PM  

propasaurus: Unfortunately, such support for state health departments is often inaccurately called a "slush fund," and is at risk of being cut.


It's about time State Health Departments got a job and started earning their keep!

/How'd I do?
 
2012-10-14 02:30:33 PM  

St_Francis_P: propasaurus: Unfortunately, such support for state health departments is often inaccurately called a "slush fund," and is at risk of being cut.

It's about time State Health Departments got a job and started earning their keep!

/How'd I do?


'Skin in the game' would also have been acceptable.
 
2012-10-14 02:51:34 PM  
FYI: Headline has nothing to do with TFA.
 
2012-10-14 02:53:51 PM  

propasaurus: FYI: Headline has nothing to do with TFA.


So, business as usual at Fark?
 
2012-10-14 03:24:34 PM  
What a pathetic headline...even for FARK. Shame on everyone involved
 
2012-10-14 03:27:27 PM  
State health care services are particularly screwed up here in the last few years. The last governor, Bredesen, did good things with TennCare, but Governor Pilot has hacked and slashed indiscriminately, leaving a program that is unable to properly care for anyone on it and is nearly impossible to get on in the first place, and a Department of Health that is badly understaffed for it's responsibilities.

None of that changes that the root problem with the Meningitis outbreak being a bad vaccine from the glorious free market from a company that cut corners and acted as companies always do. How about directing the blame to them?
 
2012-10-14 03:33:03 PM  

GAT_00: None of that changes that the root problem with the Meningitis outbreak being a bad vaccine from the glorious free market from a company that cut corners and acted as companies always do. How about directing the blame to them?


This^

/from what I've read, these guys were playing some serious shenanigans to evade regulations
//but then, who needs regulations?
 
2012-10-14 03:35:59 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: GAT_00: None of that changes that the root problem with the Meningitis outbreak being a bad vaccine from the glorious free market from a company that cut corners and acted as companies always do. How about directing the blame to them?

This^

/from what I've read, these guys were playing some serious shenanigans to evade regulations
//but then, who needs regulations?


This is why we need to repeal Obamacare. All those job killing regulations.
 
2012-10-14 03:52:30 PM  
These kinds of articles are important to remind us of what good policy can do.
 
2012-10-14 03:56:54 PM  

St_Francis_P: Reading is fundamental:

Recently, much of the upgrade at the state health departments has been possible due to the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, which allocated $270 million for public health infrastructure training as well as research and tracking.

I'll admit I didn't know about that either.


That's because it was part of American Recovery and Reinvestment act. It had nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 that provides $1 billion for community-based initiatives, tobacco cessation activities, chronic disease reduction programs, and efforts to reduce healthcare-acquired infections.
 
2012-10-14 04:01:42 PM  
Here's a handy little link to where that money went to per state and then broken down into healthcare programs at the state level. 

Link
 
2012-10-14 04:05:40 PM  

wotthefark: That's because it was part of American Recovery and Reinvestment act. It had nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act.


Citation. I can find no evidence of this.
 
2012-10-14 04:07:57 PM  
Regardless of whether the money came from ARRA or ACA money spent fighting against the spread of infectious diseases is money well spent as a rule, which I think was the article author's point in the face of people calling the provisions made for this investment in health a useless "slush fund" worthy of elimination.
 
2012-10-14 04:08:42 PM  

wotthefark: Here's a handy little link to where that money went to per state and then broken down into healthcare programs at the state level. 

Link


Your link indicates that the funding comes from the ACA.
 
2012-10-14 04:12:41 PM  
Is the presidents signature health care law responsible for any and all problems in health care no matter what?

Of course. Since that would be the case this were a Republican administration.
 
2012-10-14 04:13:57 PM  

randomjsa: Of course. Since that would be the case this were a Republican administration.


You get off on being on the cross don't you?
 
2012-10-14 04:14:16 PM  

wotthefark: That's because it was part of American Recovery and Reinvestment act. It had nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act.


wotthefark: Here's a handy little link to where that money went to per state and then broken down into healthcare programs at the state level. 

Link


dude here's the headline from your link: The Affordable Care Act's Prevention and Public Health Fund in Your State

sure looks like Obamacare had something to do with this.
 
2012-10-14 04:14:22 PM  

randomjsa: WAAAAAAH!!!

Of course. Since that would be the case this were a Republican administration.


i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-14 04:14:29 PM  
Subverting God's will to destroy the unrighteous. This affront to His work must be ended at all costs, and we must correct this wrongdoing by catching up for the lost work
 
2012-10-14 04:14:52 PM  

randomjsa: Is the presidents signature health care law responsible for any and all problems in health care no matter what?

Of course. Since that would be the case this were a Republican administration.


Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.
 
2012-10-14 04:16:18 PM  

St_Francis_P: randomjsa: Is the presidents signature health care law responsible for any and all problems in health care no matter what?

Of course. Since that would be the case this were a Republican administration.

Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.


Don't confuse the boy with facts. His world is a fragile illusion.
 
2012-10-14 04:18:13 PM  
Didn't Bush put in the powers of the TSA to combat foreign enemy combatants?
 
2012-10-14 04:20:57 PM  
Recently, much of the upgrade at the state health departments has been possible due to the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, which allocated $270 million for public health infrastructure training as well as research and tracking.

Is there some farking reason Huffington didn't put this information in the headline, where it belongs from the get-go?
 
2012-10-14 04:24:15 PM  

wotthefark: St_Francis_P: Reading is fundamental:

Recently, much of the upgrade at the state health departments has been possible due to the Affordable Care Act, aka Obamacare, which allocated $270 million for public health infrastructure training as well as research and tracking.

I'll admit I didn't know about that either.

That's because it was part of American Recovery and Reinvestment act. It had nothing to do with the Affordable Care Act.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 that provides $1 billion for community-based initiatives, tobacco cessation activities, chronic disease reduction programs, and efforts to reduce healthcare-acquired infections.


Where'd ya go?
 
2012-10-14 04:25:56 PM  

St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.


To be fair, the GOP was largely cool with Obama's handling of the tornadoes in Joplin, and how we dealt with the Somalian pirates.

I mean, you're not gonna hear about it now, but it's an election year. We have to pretend we don't have points of commonality if we want the straight-ticket idiots to continue acting like herd animals or local football fans instead of thinking for five minutes before voting.
 
2012-10-14 04:26:36 PM  

St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.


Yeah, but he didn't bless the rains down in Africa so that cancels everything out as far as I'm concerned.
 
2012-10-14 04:31:18 PM  
Kinda odd how randomderp shows up to threadshiat immediately after wothederp posts something completely retarded.
 
2012-10-14 04:33:31 PM  
what program?? Mac OS X 10.9 (Domesticated House Cat)
 
2012-10-14 04:34:54 PM  

Whiskey Pete: Kinda odd how randomderp shows up to threadshiat immediately after wothederp posts something completely retarded.


I didn't notice, I have all those retarded trolls on ignore...
 
2012-10-14 04:36:38 PM  

St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.


if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa... That Bush gave Africa 1 billion to fight AIDS in Africa, I would be... able to make a jeep payment.

There's also the hand full of instances where he was given "props" by somebody and liberals frantically waved their arms around saying "Hush! Hush! You're not helping promote our racism lie"
 
2012-10-14 04:37:34 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Subverting God's will to destroy the unrighteous. This affront to His work must be ended at all costs, and we must correct this wrongdoing by catching up for the lost work


God hates needles. Everything must go into the mouth or vagina, just like God intended. If it was good enough for Adam and Eve it should be good enough for us.
 
2012-10-14 04:44:35 PM  
I was just watching a rerun of Heroes with this same plot.
 
2012-10-14 04:44:36 PM  

GAT_00: State health care services are particularly screwed up here in the last few years. The last governor, Bredesen, did good things with TennCare, but Governor Pilot has hacked and slashed indiscriminately, leaving a program that is unable to properly care for anyone on it and is nearly impossible to get on in the first place, and a Department of Health that is badly understaffed for it's responsibilities.

None of that changes that the root problem with the Meningitis outbreak being a bad vaccine from the glorious free market from a company that cut corners and acted as companies always do. How about directing the blame to them?


Huh, is there a second meningitis outbreak that I didn't know about? I thought it was from premixed corticosteroids contaminated with a fungus not a vaccine?
 
2012-10-14 04:46:42 PM  

randomjsa: St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.

if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa... That Bush gave Africa 1 billion to fight AIDS in Africa, I would be... able to make a jeep payment. buy something at the dollar store.

There's also the hand full of instances where he was given "props" by somebody and liberals frantically waved their arms around saying "Hush! Hush! You're not helping promote our racism lie"


FTFY

/The imaginary liberals in your head that you constantly rail against don't count.
 
2012-10-14 04:48:38 PM  

randomjsa: St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.

if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa... That Bush gave Africa 1 billion to fight AIDS in Africa, I would be... able to make a jeep payment.


So what, like $350?
 
2012-10-14 04:49:11 PM  
i188.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-14 04:49:16 PM  

Teufelaffe: randomjsa: St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.

if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa... That Bush gave Africa 1 billion to fight AIDS in Africa, I would be... able to make a jeep payment. buy something at the dollar store.

There's also the hand full of instances where he was given "props" by somebody and liberals frantically waved their arms around saying "Hush! Hush! You're not helping promote our racism lie"

FTFY

/The imaginary liberals in your head that you constantly rail against don't count.


No shiat. That's the one thing Democrats have always given him credit for.

Just like Ted Bundy got credit for working for that suicide hotline, and Al Capone got credit for running those soup kitchens.
 
2012-10-14 04:55:09 PM  

randomjsa: if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa...


You run into a lot of liberals who go on and on about how awful Bush was on Africa.

Yep that sounds totally plausible. It's all we ever talk about.
 
2012-10-14 04:57:04 PM  

Curious: sure looks like Obamacare had something to do with this.


The statement (while wrong) wasn't entirely as foolish as it sounds. Both the ACA and ARRA had various healthcare initiatives associated with them. The ARRA contained the HITECH Act which gave a lot of funding for organizations to move to interoperable electronic recordkeeping, which was mentioned in the article as a key step to helping to control the transmission of disease. Heck, at the level of the individual doctor, the ARRA will have a larger impact on the way they work than the ACA.

Of course, his own link showed the ACA was responsible for the fund he was associating with the ARRA.
 
2012-10-14 04:57:23 PM  

jaytkay: randomjsa: if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa...

You run into a lot of liberals who go on and on about how awful Bush was on Africa.

Yep that sounds totally plausible. It's all we ever talk about.


...when we're not talking about destroying the Traditional American Family
 
2012-10-14 05:02:10 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: jaytkay: randomjsa: if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa...

You run into a lot of liberals who go on and on about how awful Bush was on Africa.

Yep that sounds totally plausible. It's all we ever talk about.

...when we're not talking about destroying the Traditional American Family


...or forcing people to become gay Muslims.
 
2012-10-14 05:03:56 PM  

St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.


Just to reiterate, Bush was good on AIDS in Africa, he was very good at muzzling anti-muslim sentiment in his own party, and he had a much better grasp of playing politics than people give him credit for.
 
2012-10-14 05:06:00 PM  

Teufelaffe: FTFY

/The imaginary liberals in your head that you constantly rail against don't count.


No, you're thinking of liberals railing about conservatives. As most of the time what liberals are so against is their own misconceptions about conservatives.
 
2012-10-14 05:09:52 PM  

TalenLee: St_Francis_P: Except no one complained when Bush helped AIDs victims in Africa; in fact, even die-hard haters gave him (grudging) props.

Just to reiterate, Bush was good on AIDS in Africa, he was very good at muzzling anti-muslim sentiment in his own party, and he had a much better grasp of playing politics than people give him credit for.


The fact that he was not himself particularly anti-muslim and was fairly down on anyone that was doesn't necessarily translate into him being able to keep a handle on the rest of the party. I think the difference is more that the post-Bush GOP actively encourages it than that there was this much crazy all along but the potus was keeping a lid on it.
 
2012-10-14 05:18:16 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: What a pathetic headline...even for FARK. Shame on everyone involved


To be fair, the headline on TFA sucks, too. Also, you have to get pretty deep into TFA before you notice the line about how Obamacare provided more funds. Blame Subby for assuming that the author isn't a real Dr, but just a blogger. Unfortunately the author sucks at writing this kind of stuff, so blame is his as well.
 
2012-10-14 05:20:09 PM  

The_Homeless_Guy: GAT_00: State health care services are particularly screwed up here in the last few years. The last governor, Bredesen, did good things with TennCare, but Governor Pilot has hacked and slashed indiscriminately, leaving a program that is unable to properly care for anyone on it and is nearly impossible to get on in the first place, and a Department of Health that is badly understaffed for it's responsibilities.

None of that changes that the root problem with the Meningitis outbreak being a bad vaccine from the glorious free market from a company that cut corners and acted as companies always do. How about directing the blame to them?

Huh, is there a second meningitis outbreak that I didn't know about? I thought it was from premixed corticosteroids contaminated with a fungus not a vaccine?


Seriously. Are the anti-Vaxers now blaming things on vaccines that didn't even involve vaccines?

/At least we finally know what caused the housing bubble to collapse. It was TDaP!
 
2012-10-14 05:24:03 PM  

jaytkay: randomjsa: if I had a dollar for every time I've had to point out to a liberal going on about what a horrific racist Bush was or how horrible he was on Africa...

You run into a lot of liberals who go on and on about how awful Bush was on Africa.

Yep that sounds totally plausible. It's all we ever talk about.


To be fair, the invisible liberals who live inside Random's head are complete assholes by all accounts.
 
2012-10-14 05:27:46 PM  

Jim_Callahan: The fact that he was not himself particularly anti-muslim and was fairly down on anyone that was doesn't necessarily translate into him being able to keep a handle on the rest of the party. I think the difference is more that the post-Bush GOP actively encourages it than that there was this much crazy all along but the potus was keeping a lid on it.


I think you're right. It's actually a little horrible to consider that when I said what I said, I was thinking, He personally didn't whip it up, which is it seems all it takes to be considered good on the topic. Still, there weren't anti-Shariah laws being passed on his watch.
 
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