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(Reuters)   Mind the (enthusiasm) gap: more Democrats than Republicans are voting early   (reuters.com) divider line 228
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2012-10-14 01:42:57 PM
I actually cast my ballot about two weeks ago. Deployed civilians get just as good of voting benefits as deployed soliders!

And if anyone is curious, I ended up voting for Obama over Johnson and Stein.
 
2012-10-14 01:42:57 PM

kpaxoid: I see lost ballots.


i don't have the links handy but the number of tossed ballots with early and absentee voting is far too high. my signature never looks the same even ten minutes apart and would get my paper ballot tossed for sure.
 
2012-10-14 01:43:32 PM

randomjsa: At this point we're calling that the desperation gap.


Damn was that really the best you could come up with?

You gotta step up your game kiddo!
 
2012-10-14 01:44:28 PM

Mrtraveler01: I can see why Republicans in Ohio would want to put a stop to this.


If one of your strategies is to suppress voter turnout - you're on the wrong side.

//republicans can really be some unamericantwatwaffles
 
2012-10-14 01:44:47 PM

quatchi: There are more self identified Dems than Reps at this point so more Dems voting early should not come as any big surprise but it's still good to note. In terms of the "enthusiasm gap" I have yet to meet anyone I would describe as an "enthusiastic" Romney supporter yet. Heard a few derpers IRL go on about how much they admired Ryan"s "intellect" though. I just laughed at them until they stopped.


Basically, and I know a good number of tea partiers and self proclaimed "libertarians," and none of them like Romney, but say they will vote for him because they don't like Obama. But the "don't like Obama" meme just doesn't provide much inspiration, and, when it comes down to it, the choice to mow the lawn or to vote for Romney may keep a lot of people at home. There are a good number of folks who don't like Obama, but they aren't necessarily motivated to vote for Romney.
 
2012-10-14 01:45:25 PM

Cataholic: keithgabryelski: Pretty obvious that democrats are voting early because they think it may be illegal for them to vote again next week

FTFY.


I know you think you're being clever and snarky here, but re-read how you "fixed" that. You are accusing dems of being aware that it's illegal to vote twice.
 
2012-10-14 01:45:26 PM

Cuthbert Allgood: Mrtraveler01: I can see why Republicans in Ohio would want to put a stop to this.

If one of your strategies is to suppress voter turnout - you're on the wrong side.

//republicans can really be some unamericantwatwaffles


Makes it even more sickening when they used our soliders as part of their party games.
 
2012-10-14 01:45:45 PM
The Republican way:

biatch early, biatch often, and make up shiat about voter fraud while committing voter registration fraud


Why do Republicans hate democracy?
 
2012-10-14 01:45:59 PM
i imagine this must be a big blow to the Republicans. Outside of throwing away votes, disenfranchising people, and trying to demoralize Democrats, they had nothing. Funny that Romney's 'big debate win' really means nothing as the Democrats are still turning out in big numbers.

In a way, the Republicans are still dealing from their last big failure, Dubya: he's going to be used as motivation for the next century on the dangers of not voting. That is, unless you want more Republicans acting snide and voting the country into the poorhouse.
 
2012-10-14 01:46:31 PM

Mrtraveler01: That and Romney said in Ohio yesterday something along the lines of spending enough money on Defense to the point that no one would test it.

Made me barf when I heard that on the news last night.


i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-14 01:47:06 PM

Lionel Mandrake: The Republican way:

biatch early, biatch often, and make up shiat about voter fraud while committing voter registration fraud


Why do Republicans hate democracy?


Because they're slaves. They enjoy their slavery, and enjoy that they have people to tell them what to do. They get around it by screeching about 'freedom,' but the perfect Republican is a slave that enjoys being whipped. It's the most politically masochistic party ever.
 
2012-10-14 01:47:22 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: I know you think you're being clever and snarky here, but re-read how you "fixed" that. You are accusing dems of being aware that it's illegal to vote twice.


Oh bullcrap. You're only allowed two votes if you're a "post-life" American. Stop making shiat up about Democrats.
 
2012-10-14 01:49:11 PM
All this proves is the GOP's war on voting had their bombs aimed at the correct targets. Scheduled events and parties really cut into enthusiasm for GOP voters.
 
2012-10-14 01:50:16 PM
Still not counting chickens yet

//cautiously optimistic
 
2012-10-14 01:50:26 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-14 01:50:33 PM
Lets not start sucking each other's dicks yet. We need a massive turnout on November 6th. I don't like early bragging
/Obama 2012
 
2012-10-14 01:51:09 PM

Whiskey Pete: Mrtraveler01: That and Romney said in Ohio yesterday something along the lines of spending enough money on Defense to the point that no one would test it.

Made me barf when I heard that on the news last night.

[i1162.photobucket.com image 675x360]


Three of those countries on the left bar are signatories to a special intelligence-sharing treaty known as Five Eyes, and another three are either members of NATO or ISAF and working very closely with America in current war efforts. The idea that those countries would attack us is far beyond laughable. It's malarkey.
 
2012-10-14 01:51:33 PM

Weaver95: i'm actually heading down to DNC headquarters in about an hour or so. anyone in/near the Carlisle area is more than welcome to join me!


This post, coming from you, makes my heart smile.
 
2012-10-14 01:52:43 PM

randomjsa: At this point we're calling that the desperation gap.


I don't think the GOP is 'desperate'. Deluded maybe but desperate? nah.
 
2012-10-14 01:53:34 PM

Serious Black: Whiskey Pete: Mrtraveler01: That and Romney said in Ohio yesterday something along the lines of spending enough money on Defense to the point that no one would test it.

Made me barf when I heard that on the news last night.

[i1162.photobucket.com image 675x360]

Three of those countries on the left bar are signatories to a special intelligence-sharing treaty known as Five Eyes, and another three are either members of NATO or ISAF and working very closely with America in current war efforts. The idea that those countries would attack us is far beyond laughable. It's malarkey.


You do realize that the chart represents defense spending, right?
 
2012-10-14 01:54:11 PM

blackminded: Weaver95: i'm actually heading down to DNC headquarters in about an hour or so. anyone in/near the Carlisle area is more than welcome to join me!

This post, coming from you, makes my heart smile.


quit yer grinning and drop yer linen. get down to your local Democratic HQ and volunteer for a shift.
 
2012-10-14 01:54:57 PM

randomjsa: At this point we're calling that the desperation gap.


www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com
 
2012-10-14 01:55:38 PM
with the exception of military, there should be no early/mail in voting. It invites fraud.
 
2012-10-14 01:56:33 PM

Weaver95: randomjsa: At this point we're calling that the desperation gap.

I don't think the GOP is 'desperate'. Deluded maybe but desperate? nah.


It's both. Or rather, their desperation causes them to turn to delusion. "Unskewed polls". They actually think they're crushing the election right now.
 
2012-10-14 01:57:28 PM

anarchy_x: with the exception of military, there should be no early/mail in voting. It invites fraud.


So if your boss sends you on a trip to China on election day, you're fine with being disenfranchised or losing your job?
 
2012-10-14 01:58:24 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: "Unskewed polls"


Would this man lie to you?

i1162.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-14 01:58:26 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Weaver95: randomjsa: At this point we're calling that the desperation gap.

I don't think the GOP is 'desperate'. Deluded maybe but desperate? nah.

It's both. Or rather, their desperation causes them to turn to delusion. "Unskewed polls". They actually think they're crushing the election right now.


which is fine. I'm ok with team Romney thinking they've got this in the bag. they won't push as hard that way.
 
2012-10-14 01:58:29 PM

anarchy_x: with the exception of military, there should be no early/mail in voting. It invites fraud.


Fraud on the part of the voter, or on the part of the people who count the votes? Because if it's the latter then I agree. I won't vote early because I don't trust my DERPy republican state-government to not toss all the early votes from my left-leaning county into a giant kiln.
 
2012-10-14 01:58:37 PM

anarchy_x: with the exception of military, there should be no early/mail in voting. It invites fraud.


Uh, no.
 
2012-10-14 01:58:47 PM

Whiskey Pete: Serious Black: Whiskey Pete: Mrtraveler01: That and Romney said in Ohio yesterday something along the lines of spending enough money on Defense to the point that no one would test it.

Made me barf when I heard that on the news last night.

[i1162.photobucket.com image 675x360]

Three of those countries on the left bar are signatories to a special intelligence-sharing treaty known as Five Eyes, and another three are either members of NATO or ISAF and working very closely with America in current war efforts. The idea that those countries would attack us is far beyond laughable. It's malarkey.

You do realize that the chart represents defense spending, right?


Yes, I do, which is why I pointed out that six of the countries represented on the left bar are members of major defense treaties with America and how they would be insane to attack us regardless of how much money they (or we) spend on defense. Putting them on that chart as showing a risk to us and reasons why we need to spend more money is insanity.
 
2012-10-14 01:59:22 PM

Whiskey Pete: LouDobbsAwaaaay: "Unskewed polls"

Would this man lie to you?

[i1162.photobucket.com image 259x194]


He keeps taking it on the chins in these threads.
 
2012-10-14 02:01:33 PM

Serious Black: Yes, I do, which is why I pointed out that six of the countries represented on the left bar are members of major defense treaties with America and how they would be insane to attack us regardless of how much money they (or we) spend on defense. Putting them on that chart as showing a risk to us and reasons why we need to spend more money is insanity.


I don't think posting that chart implied that those countries were a threat, it was only to demonstrate how out of proportion our defense spending already is compared to the rest of the world.

It would look even more lopsided if we compared our spending to that of our "enemies".
 
2012-10-14 02:02:02 PM
I would just like to point out that the questions they ask to screen for likely voters would most likely eliminate most first time voters.
 
2012-10-14 02:02:08 PM
A head start is better than no start. As has been the case all year, if voter turner is even average Obama should win--maybe not comfortably but should. There's nothing more the politicians can do in that circumstance. It's all about peer pressure. Nag Americans to vote long enough and they'll wake up on November 6 with the subconscious desire to do it just to get it over with.
 
2012-10-14 02:02:43 PM

Serious Black: Yes, I do, which is why I pointed out that six of the countries represented on the left bar are members of major defense treaties with America and how they would be insane to attack us regardless of how much money they (or we) spend on defense. Putting them on that chart as showing a risk to us and reasons why we need to spend more money is insanity.


The chart isn't intended to "show a risk to us". It's intended to illustrate the absurd amount of money that we spend on defense compared to other countries. Mittens wants to add another $2 trillion to that.
 
2012-10-14 02:03:16 PM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 350x480]


RIP ARLEN SP...


Oh, shiat! He really did? Today?
 
2012-10-14 02:04:13 PM

Jonny Chimpo: Whiskey Pete: Jonny Chimpo: I will be voting early as I teach at a charter school, so our buildings are not used as polling places, ergo we have school. I was somewhat surprised how easy it was to register to vote, as I had moved to North Carolina but not yet established residency. I had a proof of residency but they didn't ask for it. I will take one when early voting either way.

The one thing is that I have no clue what to do for local offices. Any suggestions for humorous write-in votes?

"Weedlord Bonerhitler" seems to be a new favorite.

I do live in Charlotte, so I may write in Ric Flair for a local office


You could also write in Walter Donovan, Yui Hasegawa, Hugh Jass, Kurenai Misuzu, Harriet Jones, Ben Collins or Phillip J. Fry. Just a few ideas.

/hopefully the ballot counters will recognize such a write-in as a protest vote
 
2012-10-14 02:04:27 PM
Here is what Romney actually said:

Romney said he would not support any funding cuts or downsizing for military and defense programs.

"I will restore our military budget and not cut the military," Romney said. "I can't understand a president ... cutting our military. America's military must be so strong no one would think of testing it."


Because spending twice as much as China on our military just isn't enough.
 
2012-10-14 02:05:05 PM

Whiskey Pete: The chart isn't intended to "show a risk to us". It's intended to illustrate the absurd amount of money that we spend on defense compared to other countries. Mittens wants to add another $2 trillion to that.


Yeah but he's going to go Bain on Sesame Street. So it all balances out.
 
2012-10-14 02:07:25 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Whiskey Pete: The chart isn't intended to "show a risk to us". It's intended to illustrate the absurd amount of money that we spend on defense compared to other countries. Mittens wants to add another $2 trillion to that.

Yeah but he's going to go Bain on Sesame Street. So it all balances out.


If people are gullible enough to buy that bullshiat, maybe we do deserve a Romney presidency.
 
2012-10-14 02:07:44 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: anarchy_x: with the exception of military, there should be no early/mail in voting. It invites fraud.

Fraud on the part of the voter, or on the part of the people who count the votes? Because if it's the latter then I agree. I won't vote early because I don't trust my DERPy republican state-government to not toss all the early votes from my left-leaning county into a giant kiln.


You sound like you live in Florida, Wisconsin or Ohio.
 
2012-10-14 02:10:27 PM

Whiskey Pete: I have another theory: What Romney and Ryan would do to this country if elected frightens even the most lackadaisical voters shiatless. I think this will be reflected in the outcome.


Man, I should just go back and copypasta what I'm seeing on the ground.

Enthusiastic about Romney - not many, no. Either quick and to the point Romney from people very likely to show up to the polls (middle aged, middle income or up white folks mainly) and people who are Jesus effing Christ scary about their opposition to Obama... the combination of those two + purposeful voter disenfranchisement and disinformation worries me a bit. And I am seeing more Romney signs popping up in the past few weeks so they may be ramping up a bit.

Problem from the folks I speak to is by nature of my employer the more frothing zealous idiots self-eliminate before I poll them (we're non partisan but to the conspiracy minded we're part of the Coalition To Destroy America - even though we poll in part to show that we have a stupidly diverse supporter base, ideologically speaking).

That said, I've seen the Obama enthusiasm slowly uptick even after the debate.

I'm also finally hearing more "well.... don't like either one, but what we're going to lose if Romney is elected worries me" from undecideds. A few weeks ago I was getting more "well... not crazy about either one, but times are tough and Romney is a businessman". Just talking to two undecided people (in a very Republican, but Eisenhower Republican area) on Friday they managed to somehow move from undecided to probably Obama just in talking to me. And I didn't say much.

So that's a plus.

/anecdotal data is anecdotal in my no longer a background state but that shares many similar qualities with populations in Ohio blah blah blah
 
2012-10-14 02:11:09 PM

Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Serious Black: Yes, I do, which is why I pointed out that six of the countries represented on the left bar are members of major defense treaties with America and how they would be insane to attack us regardless of how much money they (or we) spend on defense. Putting them on that chart as showing a risk to us and reasons why we need to spend more money is insanity.

I don't think posting that chart implied that those countries were a threat, it was only to demonstrate how out of proportion our defense spending already is compared to the rest of the world.

It would look even more lopsided if we compared our spending to that of our "enemies".


Whiskey Pete: The chart isn't intended to "show a risk to us". It's intended to illustrate the absurd amount of money that we spend on defense compared to other countries. Mittens wants to add another $2 trillion to that.


And I think pointing out that the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Australia, and Canada are all major partners with America shows that our spending is even more out of proportion with the rest of the world since the point of defense spending is ostensibly to keep us safe from danger. Those six countries pose absolutely no danger to us, so trying to match their defense spending is a useless metric.
 
2012-10-14 02:12:52 PM

anarchy_x: with the exception of military, there should be no early/mail in voting. It invites fraud.


I'm sure you can back up this claim...
 
2012-10-14 02:13:03 PM
Battleground, not Background, oh, whatever.

I hate this time of the year.
 
2012-10-14 02:13:15 PM

King Something: You sound like you live in Florida, Wisconsin or Ohio.


If Walker were to step into the street in front of me, I'd have trouble getting myself to put on the brakes.
 
2012-10-14 02:14:13 PM

Serious Black: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Serious Black: Yes, I do, which is why I pointed out that six of the countries represented on the left bar are members of major defense treaties with America and how they would be insane to attack us regardless of how much money they (or we) spend on defense. Putting them on that chart as showing a risk to us and reasons why we need to spend more money is insanity.

I don't think posting that chart implied that those countries were a threat, it was only to demonstrate how out of proportion our defense spending already is compared to the rest of the world.

It would look even more lopsided if we compared our spending to that of our "enemies".

Whiskey Pete: The chart isn't intended to "show a risk to us". It's intended to illustrate the absurd amount of money that we spend on defense compared to other countries. Mittens wants to add another $2 trillion to that.

And I think pointing out that the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Australia, and Canada are all major partners with America shows that our spending is even more out of proportion with the rest of the world since the point of defense spending is ostensibly to keep us safe from danger. Those six countries pose absolutely no danger to us, so trying to match their defense spending is a useless metric.


...and you've completely missed the point. Again. Good day.
 
2012-10-14 02:14:28 PM

Brick-House: [www.politifake.org image 336x298]


You slay me, dude!
 
2012-10-14 02:14:50 PM

Mrtraveler01: Here is what Romney actually said:

Romney said he would not support any funding cuts or downsizing for military and defense programs.

"I will restore our military budget and not cut the military," Romney said. "I can't understand a president ... cutting our military. America's military must be so strong no one would think of testing it."

Because spending twice as much as China on our military just isn't enough.


I'm curious as to how much money Mitt Romney thinks would make our military strong enough that no one would think of testing it. $1 trillion a year? $2 trillion a year? $10 trillion a year?
 
2012-10-14 02:15:25 PM

andrewagill: Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 350x480]

RIP ARLEN SP...

Oh, shiat! He really did? Today?


Well I'll be damned.

/Didn't realize he was that old
 
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