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(SFGate)   San Francisco not impressed by Portland and NYC fixation with fixies, prefers to ride cargo bikes as "minivan replacements" that can easily carry groceries, kids, or miniature dachshunds   (sfgate.com) divider line 73
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2012-10-14 01:52:06 AM
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2012-10-14 02:47:06 AM
Fixed gear bikes are impractical, antiquated, and inefficient -like chopsticks.

\I guess they are useful if you like to ride backwards...
 
2012-10-14 03:17:26 AM
I'm looking for a good cargo bike.
 
2012-10-14 03:59:42 AM

propasaurus: I'm looking for a good cargo bike.


If you lived by me....
 
2012-10-14 07:35:05 AM
You can get pizza delivered by bike in Portland:

a1.urbancdn.com

They're not all fixies.
 
2012-10-14 09:15:01 AM
I have my bike pretty hooked up for carrying groceries and such with two panniers and a rack. Ways a lot though and it's a pain to drag up the stairs. I would totally get a trike because as far as eccentric bikes goes it's not one of those sit down ones that only fat guys with beards ride. Hope this adds to your discussion.
 
2012-10-14 09:22:44 AM
So fixies are hipster bikes with a lot of crap taken off of them and cargo bikes are hipster bikes with a lot of crap put on them. Got it.
 
2012-10-14 09:59:36 AM
Cargo bike are a great idea for most city-bound folks. Cool.
 
2012-10-14 10:37:56 AM

Ontos: Cargo bike are a great idea for most city-bound folks. Cool.


I was thinking the same thing. I have seen many an example of said bike, but had no idea it was in its own category.
 
2012-10-14 10:46:12 AM
Fixies are flat out stupid, That said, 90% of the "fixies" I see around Newport are actually single speeds, which I have no problem with, since my friends and I have been building them since the 80's. We'd buy bikes with nice frames from the police auction, and most would be stripped of components, so we would just turn 'em into single speeds/front brake only because that's what we could afford.
 
2012-10-14 10:51:43 AM
Kinda cool, but once again there's a little of that self-congratulatory posturing we Americans are so good at. Let me know when they get as good as Asian cargo bikers --

www.icargobike.com

www.rideyourbike.com

www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl
 
2012-10-14 10:54:25 AM
imageshack.us

Peru in 2006. I had no idea these folks were hipsters....

imageshack.us

NAR version of "cargo" bike.
 
2012-10-14 11:02:47 AM
I think a bike trailer is a better idea
 
2012-10-14 11:09:01 AM
I love that guy on a cell and smoking at the same time he hauls a mountain of shiat.
 
2012-10-14 11:35:17 AM

ghare: I think a bike trailer is a better idea


Either way, it'll work. Depends on exactly what you want to do with it.

Hell, for most people a big scooter (like a 250cc) with capacity for a big rack would suit 95% of their daily needs.

Something like the old Honda "Big Ruckus".
 
2012-10-14 11:35:23 AM
I actually considered buying a fixie for when I ride with the bike with the dog on leash, since I'm constantly riding the brakes.. otherwise it may turn into a National Lampoon's dog gets dragged incident. I decided I'd rather wear the brakes and wheels and then buy a fixie.
 
2012-10-14 11:39:55 AM
Maybe SF's collection of young trust-funded shiatheads finally noticed that brakes are a good thing when you come to the bottoms of all those steep hills...
 
2012-10-14 11:48:58 AM
Here's my Xtracycle cargo bike with three coolers of beer...

farm9.staticflickr.com

And here it is with two full cornie kegs of homebrew...

farm9.staticflickr.com 

\I have a fixed gear as well
\\and a road bike
\\\and a mountain bike
\\\\and a commuter bike
\*5 I like bikes
 
2012-10-14 12:05:17 PM
Fair enough since those of us in Portland are not impressed with San Francisco

at

all
 
2012-10-14 12:15:33 PM
max_pooper 

+1 internet for the Brooks saddle.

/I like bikes as well
 
2012-10-14 12:19:27 PM

phaseolus: Kinda cool, but once again there's a little of that self-congratulatory posturing we Americans are so good at. Let me know when they get as good as Asian cargo bikers --

[www.icargobike.com image 500x375]

[www.rideyourbike.com image 450x301]

[www.bakfiets-en-meer.nl image 427x320]


Hey, that third guy is on a cell phone while peddling! He needs to be ticketed!

Nah, just busting chops. I'd be willing to bet none of those objects are very dense, unlike my merchandise which averages about 40 pounds per cubic foot.
 
2012-10-14 12:30:43 PM

Frederick: propasaurus: I'm looking for a good cargo bike.

If you lived by me....


Pretty sweet.
 
2012-10-14 12:50:27 PM

EfiniX: Fair enough since those of us in Portland are not impressed with San Francisco

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all


i180.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-14 12:50:29 PM

forgotmydamnusername: trust-funded shiatheads


Somehow I prefer trust-funded shiatheads who find ways to reduce pollution to exurb shiatheads whose SUVs have never never been used for sport or utility.

/some shiatheads are worse than others
//agree that the former shiatheads ought to follow the damn rules of the road
 
2012-10-14 01:21:18 PM

AliceBToklasLives: forgotmydamnusername: trust-funded shiatheads

Somehow I prefer trust-funded shiatheads who find ways to reduce pollution to exurb shiatheads whose SUVs have never never been used for sport or utility.

/some shiatheads are worse than others
//agree that the former shiatheads ought to follow the damn rules of the road


San Francisco strikes me as a singularly inappropriate place for the use of fixies. Yet for a while there, it was a fad, and there were these shops building them for big bucks. That phenomenon itself is worthy of contempt. People buying 5 mpg. urban assault vehicles for absolutely no reason that makes any sense is a separate peeve. Still, you run into these people with Nazi-like attitudes with regard to their use of bicycles. fark them. If I need to be 50 miles away in an hour, I'm taking my motorcycle. When I have to carry heavy objects, I'm driving my truck. Besides which, these days, my knees don't work especially well, and riding a bicycle everywhere seems to irritate them.
 
2012-10-14 01:32:25 PM
This is dangerous, slippery-slope, type stuff. If you aren't careful you might end up riding a moped with saddlebags.

/and that's just one step away from riding your moms saddlebags
 
2012-10-14 02:27:11 PM
Fixies are impractical and exist for no reason other than a misguided attempt at fashion. The cargo bikes look equally ridiculous, but are actually practical. I don't think I could make fun of someone for riding one, but I will do my best.
 
2012-10-14 03:52:19 PM
bakfiets.nl

www.workcycles.com
 
2012-10-14 04:26:11 PM
Let me know when they get as good as Asian cargo bikers --
Came for this, leaving happy
 
2012-10-14 04:49:51 PM

Tourney3p0: Fixies are impractical and exist for no reason other than a misguided attempt at fashion.


I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.
 
2012-10-14 05:13:11 PM

jaytkay: Tourney3p0: Fixies are impractical and exist for no reason other than a misguided attempt at fashion.

I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.


But a farking freewheel and brakes aren't.
 
2012-10-14 05:13:36 PM

jaytkay: Tourney3p0: Fixies are impractical and exist for no reason other than a misguided attempt at fashion.

I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.


Fixed gear or with a freewheel? I can't imagine commuting 12 miles without the ability to let my legs be lazy for a few seconds every now and then.
 
2012-10-14 05:17:57 PM

drewogatory: jaytkay: Tourney3p0: Fixies are impractical and exist for no reason other than a misguided attempt at fashion.

I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.

But a farking freewheel and brakes aren't.


I have brakes. There's no need for a freewheel.

Derigiberble: I can't imagine commuting 12 miles without the ability to let my legs be lazy for a few seconds every now and then.


I get to work faster because I don't daydream and start coasting down to 10 mph.

Steep downhills do suck on a fixie, thanks to the whirling pedals of death. But I don't have any hills on my commute.
 
2012-10-14 05:21:36 PM

jaytkay: drewogatory: jaytkay: Tourney3p0: Fixies are impractical and exist for no reason other than a misguided attempt at fashion.

I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.

But a farking freewheel and brakes aren't.

I have brakes. There's no need for a freewheel.

Derigiberble: I can't imagine commuting 12 miles without the ability to let my legs be lazy for a few seconds every now and then.

I get to work faster because I don't daydream and start coasting down to 10 mph.

Steep downhills do suck on a fixie, thanks to the whirling pedals of death. But I don't have any hills on my commute.


Well, you're an idiot then. Nothing like making your bike less functional just for fashion's sake. The shiat you have in your pockets weighs more than a freewheel.
 
2012-10-14 05:35:02 PM

drewogatory: Well, you're an idiot then. Nothing like making your bike less functional just for fashion's sake. The shiat you have in your pockets weighs more than a freewheel.


I'm not worried about fashion or weight. And I have geared bikes, too. The fixed is just different. It's fun to ride.

Also one bonus I enjoy about the fixie is the anger it brings forth from overly-emotional people who are upset and confused by non-conformity.
 
2012-10-14 05:48:19 PM
farm3.static.flickr.com

Yo dawg...
 
2012-10-14 06:16:30 PM
My bike is cooler than any "fixie" or cargo...
i149.photobucket.com
Grow a pair, hipsters.
 
2012-10-14 06:24:23 PM

SageC: My bike is cooler than any "fixie" or cargo...

Grow a pair, hipsters.


I would say you sound fat but since you posted a picture I will say you look fat.

Ps. Your goatee isn't fooling anyone into believing you only have one chin.
 
2012-10-14 06:30:00 PM

SageC: My bike is cooler than any "fixie" or cargo...
[i149.photobucket.com image 800x600]
Grow a pair, hipsters.


Yamaha? What is that, a piano on wheels?
 
2012-10-14 06:34:44 PM
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
 
2012-10-14 07:01:13 PM
Fixed gear!
s13.postimage.org

My dad gave me this old Miyata and I converted it to a fixie about 4 years ago. I used to ride it 2 or 3 times a week, but I haven't been on it in a while. I have 6 other bikes that vary in style, so sometimes certain ones go unused for a while. But even when I'm not riding them, they're all well cared for and all are stored indoors.

This fixie has a lot of sentimental value not only because the frame was a gift from my dad, but because I purchased those Mavic handlebars the very next day after Greg Lemond won the time trial on the penultimate day in the 1989 Tour de France. He had the same handlebars on his time trial bike, so I bought mine to commemorate the moment.

Those cargo trailers look cool. Christmas is just a couple of months away - I may put this on my "possible" list.

Also, if you know a bit about bikes, you can probably see that I have very short legs and a very long torso.
 
2012-10-14 07:37:40 PM

jaytkay:

I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.


Hey, if that's all you need then more power to you. If you paid extra for the luxury of severely limited functionality, you're an idiot. If not, go you.
 
2012-10-14 08:11:48 PM

Tourney3p0: jaytkay:

I commute on my fixed gear bike, 12 miles each way. If you live in flatland, gears are an unnecessary complication.

Hey, if that's all you need then more power to you. If you paid extra for the luxury of severely limited functionality, you're an idiot. If not, go you.


Fixed gears (all single speeds for that matter) are much cheaper to build and maintain. Chains and cassettes on multi geared bikes wear out much faster than chains and cogs on fixies, a huge or of magnitude faster. Of course that is all negated if you choose to be a moron and ride without any breaks and just skid stop all the time. Breaks pads are a hell of alot cheaper than tires.

My fixie has a front break. Its about four years old and probably has over three thousand miles on it with orginal chain and tires. In that time I have spent hundreds of dollars on chains and cassettes for my geared road and commuter bikes.
 
2012-10-14 08:21:24 PM

max_pooper:
Fixed gears (all single speeds for that matter) are much cheaper to build.


Hence my statement If you paid extra for the luxury of severely limited functionality, you're an idiot. Fixies definitely have their place. For example, I've heard rumors of at least 3 people who put thousands of miles of perfectly flat riding on their bikes. I don't think anyone is going to point and laugh at those guys if they're ever spotted in the wild.
 
2012-10-14 08:28:06 PM
Fixed gear for a city notorious for hills? No front breaks (most of your stopping power). Lame fisher Price colors?

Retarded.
 
2012-10-14 08:36:12 PM

AliceBToklasLives: forgotmydamnusername: trust-funded shiatheads

Somehow I prefer trust-funded shiatheads who find ways to reduce pollution to exurb shiatheads whose SUVs have never never been used for sport or utility.

/some shiatheads are worse than others
//agree that the former shiatheads ought to follow the damn rules of the road


Running over fixies IS a sport.
 
2012-10-14 09:59:40 PM

max_pooper: SageC: My bike is cooler than any "fixie" or cargo...

Grow a pair, hipsters.

I would say you sound fat but since you posted a picture I will say you look fat.

Ps. Your goatee isn't fooling anyone into believing you only have one chin.


You tend to gain weight when you grow a pair... whereas the average hipster who usually weighs less than his bike is often pushed over by the air stream as I ride by.
 
2012-10-14 10:06:16 PM

SageC: max_pooper: SageC: My bike is cooler than any "fixie" or cargo...

Grow a pair, hipsters.

I would say you sound fat but since you posted a picture I will say you look fat.

Ps. Your goatee isn't fooling anyone into believing you only have one chin.

You tend to gain weight when you grow a pair... whereas the average hipster who usually weighs less than his bike is often pushed over by the air stream as I ride by.


lh4.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-10-14 10:16:25 PM

SageC: max_pooper: SageC: My bike is cooler than any "fixie" or cargo...

Grow a pair, hipsters.

I would say you sound fat but since you posted a picture I will say you look fat.

Ps. Your goatee isn't fooling anyone into believing you only have one chin.

You tend to gain weight when you grow a pair... whereas the average hipster who usually weighs less than his bike is often pushed over by the air stream as I ride by.


Your "pair" is in your pudgy face? You may need to get that checked out.
 
2012-10-15 12:05:56 AM

Ontos: ghare: I think a bike trailer is a better idea

Either way, it'll work. Depends on exactly what you want to do with it.

Hell, for most people a big scooter (like a 250cc) with capacity for a big rack would suit 95% of their daily needs.

Something like the old Honda "Big Ruckus".


Honda still sells a funky looking little Ruckus. I've had my eye on for about a year. Some day when I'm no longer a 325LB sack of shiat I'd like to purchase one.
 
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