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(WTKR)   The captains of a Navy sub and Aegis cruiser play a game of chicken to see who can end their careers faster. Both lose   (wtkr.com) divider line 21
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2012-10-14 05:55:03 AM
7 votes:
jtown,
I thought subs were required to give way to non-submersibles. The idea being that it's easier for a sub to see a surface vessel than for a surface vessel to see a sub. But I could be wrong.

I believe either the ship or the sub could be submersible.

/Just a matter of how many times.
2012-10-14 04:53:03 AM
4 votes:
So the submarine was not a light house?
2012-10-13 09:18:35 PM
4 votes:

Captain Steroid: [i126.photobucket.com image 850x559]


Hey, you had three dimensions to play in, Picard. It's a lot harder when you can only...oh, one was a sub? Never mind.
2012-10-14 07:16:51 AM
3 votes:

DrPainMD: Slartibartfaster: BronyMedic: Oh look, it's someone trying to be cute. I see you don't list your country of citizenship. Would you like to list it, so we can pull up the list of ship collisions that have occured from your merchant and military ships?

Ill play, Im dual New Zealand and Canada (use either or both)

// feel free to add in friendly fire rates, for the lulz

When I was in the (US) Navy, a Canadian destroyer hit my ship (an aircraft carrier). The bigger ship always has the right of way.


When I was in the USN, a ship in my home port hit Japan. Japan was determined to have the right of way, so Skippy was fired. (An OS on my ship had been on watch on that ship at the time. He said that when it ran aground the captain ran into CIS in a panic shouting, "WHAT DID WE HIT?!" and some smartass replied, "Japan, sir.")

On a more serious note, there are many competencies involved in running a navy, and I observed that the USN isn't the best at all of them. I don't believe any nation on Earth surpasses our competence at conducting combat operations at sea, but we've got rusty at some tasks of basic seamanship. It's farking embarrassing to watch an American ship moor, especially in the presence of foreign navies that manage the same task in a quarter the time. I wouldn't be surprised if there were lots of navies that were better than ours at the unglamorous task of not colliding with other ships.
2012-10-14 06:46:32 AM
2 votes:
You're supposed to use it as a hat!

media.entertainment.sky.com
2012-10-13 09:42:59 PM
2 votes:
Maybe they had no other choice. It was some kind of Last Resort...
2012-10-13 09:30:30 PM
2 votes:
Someone needs a refresher course.

i197.photobucket.com
2012-10-13 08:37:57 PM
2 votes:
i126.photobucket.com
2012-10-14 09:07:40 PM
1 votes:

LS1Bird: [www.starblazers.com image 800x303]

Obscure?


YA-MAA-TOOO

Nothing is obscure on FARK.
2012-10-14 02:37:58 PM
1 votes:
Did Dan Lenson have the conn?
2012-10-14 02:32:26 PM
1 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Glockenspiel Hero: Actually, it's amazing that this sort of thing doesn't happen more often. Doing military thing involves all sorts of dangerous, frequently bat-shiat crazy stuff, often done at night and in terrible conditions, with a bunch of barely literate trainees. Of *course* shiat gets broken

CSB time- back when I was in the Guard, we were training with an infantry unit that had M901 ITVs. These are M113 APCs with a big, heavy hammerhead TOW turret on top- they are top heavy and ungainly. A bunch of them were doing a night move to a new location- each of them was just following the blackout lights of the ITV in front of them. They got a bit off the trail and starting driving on a side slope that got steeper and steeper, until the lead vehicle flipped over and rolled sideways down the hill. #2 wasnt paying attention and followed right behind, flipping multiple times as well.

Amazing nobody died in that one- worst injury was a broken back and the guy made a full recovery. A friend of mine was S1 at the time and he spent ages filling out the paperwork.

That's a good one. I've almost died three different times in M113 APCs, but one of the coolest things I've ever seen was at Fort Hunter-Liggett as we were war-gaming. We were attacking, and our train came upon a minefield/tank ditch/barbed wire obstacle. As combat engineers, we were called out of the train to breach the obstacle (obstacles are designed to funnel you into a killing zone, so it's usually better to go through them than around them). The battlefield was smoked, so visibility was down to about 150 feet.

We had dismounted to assemble a bangalore torpedo (we weren't issued MICLICs) and the M60 tanks were maneuvering around us to provide cover. One M60 was reversing at about 15 MPH down a hill, and another was charging UP the hill at about 30 MPH. The gun tube of the advancing M60 struck the turret of the reversing one squarely, flipping the tank commander right out of his hatch and onto the advancing ...


During an arty shoot at Ft. Bragg, Alpha Btry, 1 Bn, 10th Marines, FOs were on top of a hill overlooking the impact area, There was an area of low, green ground cover off to one side, and the M151 jeep driver thought he would park well away from the FO hole.

He drove over, and just as his front tires hit the green stuff, ZIP, he was gone. The green stuff was the top of a tree growing against a 50 cliff, and suddenly he was in the upper branches, 30 feet off the ground. We called a wrecker, and hooked a cable to the pintle hook on the Mutt from the top of the cliff. 1 minute later it was back on solid ground, and the driver went to change his utility trousers... Only damage was scratched paint.

2012-10-14 10:48:04 AM
1 votes:

DrPainMD: Slartibartfaster: BronyMedic: Oh look, it's someone trying to be cute. I see you don't list your country of citizenship. Would you like to list it, so we can pull up the list of ship collisions that have occured from your merchant and military ships?

Ill play, Im dual New Zealand and Canada (use either or both)

// feel free to add in friendly fire rates, for the lulz

When I was in the (US) Navy, a Canadian destroyer hit my ship (an aircraft carrier). The bigger ship US Military Vessel always has the right of way.


At least on my ship our Captain stuck to that one.

CSB time

one night I was on the helm(steering wheel) at about 2 AM. The Captain comes on the Bridge from Combat Central. He asks the OOD "Can you tell what those 2 lights ahead of us are?" The OOD says they are a contact we are tracking. He goes ."Uh Huh, OK Gator, can you tell me what those lights are?" The Navigator says the same thing." Captain goes. "You know what? Your both wrong. Thats farking land. He takes his pipe out of his mouth (smoking wasn't allowed indoors on ships by then but the Captain ignored this as only a Captain can) and launches a tirade about how the OOD was going to wreck his carreer and steal food from his childrens mouth etc all the while thumping him on the shoulder with his pipe scattering embers all around. After completely destroying the guy he says "now call back to Combat and get your bearings straight." The OOD happened to be the Division Off. for most of us on the Bridge so all of us are trying to not laugh. luckily a Navy bridge at night is blacked out
2012-10-14 10:11:22 AM
1 votes:

Alonjar: ShannonKW: It's farking embarrassing to watch an American ship moor, especially in the presence of foreign navies that manage the same task in a quarter the time.


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I wonder whats different about American navy ships which make them harder to moor.


Oh, for fark's sake that has got to be the stupidest excuse for it...

Yes, we have carriers, and few other navies have them. But those account for a bit over a dozen ships out of a navy of over 200, most ships of which have the standard 6 lines like everybody else.

I was on a carrier (Saratoga in case you care) and their llinehandling seemed quite professional, but that had a lot to do with the fact that carriers, unlike everyone else in the fleet, have a Deck Department big enough to do the needful at Sea & Anchor detail while everyone else sits with his pud in his hand. Non-carriers (the vast bulk of the fleet) have to draft everyone from cooks to wrench pullers to technicians into the effort to tie the ship up, AND THEY FUMBLE AT IT LIKE TEENAGED BOYS ON A BRA STRAP. I was there; I participated in it; it's pathetic. We'd get into port (on a goddamn frigate) at the same time as a Japanese destroyer, and they'd be going on liberty while we were still trying to get the goddamn ship parallel to the pier! Other ports were the same. It's obvious that USN has forgotten seamanship, and relies on tugs, pilots and dockworkers to hold our dick while we pee.

Don't try to tell me, pal. I was on a ship that cracked a brand-new support pier at White Beach, Okinawa (cloudless day, sea state 0, no other ship in sight) because Skippy had to drive in his boat like he was shoving his dick into his very first sexual conquest. He wasn't a fark-up either -- he was a shiat-hot class-A mutherfarker who knew his surface warfare front and back, but he drove his ship like granny at a farmer's market. Typical for the USN. They can shoot shiat down (and that's the important thing) but they can't handle their ships for shiat.

/rant
2012-10-14 09:56:55 AM
1 votes:
www.cockrockmag.com
2012-10-14 09:51:13 AM
1 votes:

Alonjar: ShannonKW: It's farking embarrassing to watch an American ship moor, especially in the presence of foreign navies that manage the same task in a quarter the time.


[upload.wikimedia.org image 745x600]
I wonder whats different about American navy ships which make them harder to moor.


Which one is American? The long one in the middle?
2012-10-14 09:08:15 AM
1 votes:
I almost ran over a submarine with an aircraft carrier... It surfaced 180 yards directly off my bow. Thankfully, I was going just fast enough to maintain steerage and was able to avoid a collision with an "all back full." I was the OOD, and the XO was on the bridge. We decided it was in both of our best interests that the old man never need know...

/CSB
2012-10-14 08:01:38 AM
1 votes:

BronyMedic: barkingfarking: usa, the dumbest military in the world.

Oh look, it's someone trying to be cute. I see you don't list your country of citizenship. Would you like to list it, so we can pull up the list of ship collisions that have occured from your merchant and military ships?


Switzerland
2012-10-14 07:37:00 AM
1 votes:
Haha man did you hear the one about the aircraft carrier and the lighthouse off Nova Scotia? WHOA that blew my mind. Army Intellignence. WHAT AN OXYMORON AM I RI(GHT?
2012-10-14 05:37:09 AM
1 votes:
That's one Crazy Ivan.
2012-10-14 05:05:10 AM
1 votes:

Summoner101: So the submarine was not a light house?


*leaves satisfied*
2012-10-13 10:13:49 PM
1 votes:
One ping...fark
 
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