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2012-10-13 06:23:27 PM  
3 votes:
Now, before the show starts tomorrow, I want all the new zombie fans to understand something: This show is not going to get any more "zombie kill-a-thon" than it already is (which is "not at all") because Kirkman knows how to write a decent zombie story, and doesn't fall back on survival porn like Brooks, or gore-porn like so many other zombie filmmakers. The Walking Dead, like any good zombie story, is about the living people and how they relate to each other during the end of the world; It's not about zombie kills, making the perfect survival plan, stocking up on guns, or "winning" against the zombies. There is no "winning" -- They're the environmental condition, not the enemy. They're the backdrop, not the antagonist.

Kirkman gets this. If he has ANY control over the show, he will continue to deliver this sort of decent story, and he will avoid turning the show into a cheap zombie survival kill-a-thon.

If you're the impatient type that needs zombies to be the enemy and the story to be about waging war against them in the ultimate libertarian fantasy, then you're better off waiting for World War Z, the movie, to be released, or watching the Syfy "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" movies, because The Walking Dead will likely never deliver on that front.

So I don't want to see you guys hanging out in Walking Dead forums complaining about the lack of action, or that there's too much talking, or that the show is "slow" or seems like a drama and not like a "real" horror show full of gory action. Good zombie fiction IS drama (horror-drama,but still..).

Now, commence with the whining and defending your position that the show sucks because there's not enough people calling zombies "zed" and forming plans to fight them and take back the world.
2012-10-13 10:29:34 PM  
2 votes:
I'm waiting for the babby to die during the 3rd trimester and then turn and eat its way out of her womb.
2012-10-13 05:46:02 PM  
2 votes:

bextraordinary: This Farkette would prefer more zombie attacks, actually. And one less Carl.


Most zombie movies are not about the zombies, it's about the survivors. That being said, too much Carl...not enough T-Dog or Maggie.
2012-10-13 03:30:43 PM  
2 votes:

usernameguy: Mentat: [imageshack.us image 300x800]

I don't think T-Dog has spoken that many words in the entire series.


That's because T-Dog is a man of action, not words.
2012-10-14 06:42:39 PM  
1 votes:
"Daryl definitely needs more screen-time though. I demand more crossbow-wielding, zombie-killing, boondock saint action."

Yes. Just... yes.
2012-10-14 02:37:12 PM  
1 votes:

that bosnian sniper: I still don't get the Lori hate. She thought Rick was dead, hooked up with Shane because people -- and I know this may come as a shock to some -- get horny, Shane took it more seriously than she intended, and when she found out Rick was still alive, broke things off. Shane, who was already a borderline personality, kind of a douchebag and mildly misogynistic (that got set up with the show's first scene with him), took it the wrong way and went further off the deep end for it. When Lori finally clued into that, she implored Rick to do something about it. And, when Rick did something about it, it got dirty and blood ended up on Carl's hands and the reality and consequences of the situation hit her.


The first scene from the pilot episode strongly implied that Lori was bangin' Shane well before the zombie outbreak occurred.
2012-10-14 12:20:51 PM  
1 votes:
I still don't get the Lori hate. She thought Rick was dead, hooked up with Shane because people -- and I know this may come as a shock to some -- get horny, Shane took it more seriously than she intended, and when she found out Rick was still alive, broke things off. Shane, who was already a borderline personality, kind of a douchebag and mildly misogynistic (that got set up with the show's first scene with him), took it the wrong way and went further off the deep end for it. When Lori finally clued into that, she implored Rick to do something about it. And, when Rick did something about it, it got dirty and blood ended up on Carl's hands and the reality and consequences of the situation hit her.

Meanwhile, Sophia got turned and the reality that may very well happen to Carl hit her, and she got overprotective. And Carl, being a kid on the cusp of adolescence wanted to be a grown-up and took to slipping the leash and doing dumb shiat. Believe it or not, that happens when you hit adolescence. The hyper-manipulative, political, reality TV she-biatch from hell she ain't.

Even if Andrea's the hottest female on the show (though Maggie certainly gives her a run for the money). Daryl definitely needs more screen-time though. I demand more crossbow-wielding, zombie-killing, boondock saint action.
2012-10-14 01:24:16 AM  
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Now, before the show starts tomorrow, I want all the new zombie fans to understand something: This show is not going to get any more "zombie kill-a-thon" than it already is (which is "not at all") because Kirkman knows how to write a decent zombie story, and doesn't fall back on survival porn like Brooks, or gore-porn like so many other zombie filmmakers. The Walking Dead, like any good zombie story, is about the living people and how they relate to each other during the end of the world; It's not about zombie kills, making the perfect survival plan, stocking up on guns, or "winning" against the zombies. There is no "winning" -- They're the environmental condition, not the enemy. They're the backdrop, not the antagonist.

Kirkman gets this. If he has ANY control over the show, he will continue to deliver this sort of decent story, and he will avoid turning the show into a cheap zombie survival kill-a-thon.

If you're the impatient type that needs zombies to be the enemy and the story to be about waging war against them in the ultimate libertarian fantasy, then you're better off waiting for World War Z, the movie, to be released, or watching the Syfy "2012 Zombie Apocalypse" movies, because The Walking Dead will likely never deliver on that front.

So I don't want to see you guys hanging out in Walking Dead forums complaining about the lack of action, or that there's too much talking, or that the show is "slow" or seems like a drama and not like a "real" horror show full of gory action. Good zombie fiction IS drama (horror-drama,but still..).

Now, commence with the whining and defending your position that the show sucks because there's not enough people calling zombies "zed" and forming plans to fight them and take back the world.


I don't have a problem with your take on zombies. Hell, I don't have a problem with Carl (because he's Rick's real focus). The real problem I have with the story is Lori's selfishness and Carl not acting like a kid his age (seriously, how many kids that age are going to wander around alone if they know there are killers around).

The only thing I want to see is some character growth. Survivors learning from their mistakes, change in their interactions with others (based on their experiences), etc. Rick, Glenn, Andrea, Daryl, Hershel, and Maggie all grew as characters. Lori and Carl really didn't (and I don't call him capping Shane character growth). They need to let T-Dog do a bit more than be the token black guy.

I'm still excited for the season.
2012-10-13 10:45:19 PM  
1 votes:

clkeagle: The Sophia thing should have lasted two episodes at the most. They drew it on and on... and then tried to do the same thing with Carl. Season Two looked like it was suffering from one of the following two nasty illnesses:

1. They had another subplot for the season that had to be scrapped, so they were stuck stretching the kiddie drama out more than they originally planned.
2. The season arc was secretly written by Jane Espenson.

I'll give Season 3 a chance though, at least to see if they will fix the story/pacing problems.


Didn't AMC massively reduce the shows funding thus making the second season like the first impossible?
2012-10-13 09:05:15 PM  
1 votes:

Vacation Bible School: Darryl, Glen and Maggie need to leave the rest of the group and make their own show. They could travel across the country looking for the last Twinkie.


Throw in some T-Dog.

Has anyone noticed that the characters given the most dialog are the ones you start to hate?

Why do the writers hate their characters so much????
2012-10-13 07:37:04 PM  
1 votes:
The fark discussion threads were more entertaining than the show itself last season. My favorite being T-Dog with a rocket launcher jumping over buildings, while Lori poisoned the food supply with her stupid pills.
2012-10-13 06:19:11 PM  
1 votes:
As long as Herschel has his konami/unlimited ammo code on it doesn't matter where Carl is.

Show and thread needs more Maggie
2012-10-13 05:13:33 PM  
1 votes:
Rick : "Well, Carl, I have just suddenly realized child protective services no longer exists. Slipped my mind. Anyhow, you goddamned little shiat, you freaked the fark out of us enough times so now I am going to tan your hide so hard no even the walkers would want to tear a chunk off it."

Lori : "Rick! How could you! He's just a..."

Rick : "Also, there are no divorce courts or divorce lawyers, Slutty McShanebanger!"

Lori : "..."

Carl : "OWOWOWOWOWOWOW!"

Rick : "And now you stay in that dog crate, young man!"
2012-10-13 03:47:59 PM  
1 votes:
Maybe at the prison they can lock him in a cell. That should keep him under control.
2012-10-13 03:27:34 PM  
1 votes:
I think it started when the dood responsible for the show was fired, and the team of writers that followed were first lightly tapped on the head, then accidentally brain-pithed.

Which sucks, cause I loved the first season. The second season lost me after:

*Yelling at Jesus in the Church
*Security alarms still working at the Church
*We just lost one child in the woods, so, hey Carl, let's go back into the woods
*Farm. Farm, farm, farm farm omg farm faaaaaaaaaarm
*Lori: "Nerr!" Rest of cast: "Nerrrrr!" Repeat.
*And the overall continued slew of decisions that nobody, nobody in their right minds would make, no matter what zombie / disco / nuclear / hobonacht apocalypse had happened.

The only saving grace is Lindelhof isn't on board. Not even a badass woman with armless zombies could bring it back.
2012-10-13 03:21:04 PM  
1 votes:
By all rights, this ought to be the greatest show ever. It's got something for everyone. For guys, it's got gory zombie attacks. For the ladies it's got long stretches where people sit around and talk aimlessly about their feelings without resolving anything. It should have universal appeal.

And yet, somehow, it fails utterly. Although this chick is really hot, so it's got that going for it.

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2012-10-13 02:50:44 PM  
1 votes:
I watched every episode commercial-free over a three day bender to catch up. I spent two days afterwards freaking out at every odd noise. I don't recommend it.
2012-10-13 02:09:08 PM  
1 votes:
I'd hit it

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2012-10-13 01:57:12 PM  
1 votes:
Those eyes always look vacant and devoid of emotions. Can't stand her.
 
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