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(Deadline)   Group plans "Million Muppet March" in Washington D.C. to protest Mitt Romney's threats to take funding away from PBS   (deadline.com) divider line 253
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2012-10-13 12:29:21 PM  
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Classic Obama rally?
 
2012-10-13 12:30:19 PM  
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Sunday morning talk show discussing Obama
 
2012-10-13 12:30:49 PM  
Looks like Obama is still hiding behind Big Bird - our fearless leader.
 
2012-10-13 12:31:12 PM  
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SEIU member interviewed about Obama
 
2012-10-13 12:31:57 PM  
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NYT columnist thinking about Obama policies
 
2012-10-13 12:32:36 PM  
OK. I'm done
 
2012-10-13 12:33:09 PM  

Whodat: To make the top 1 percent, a household must have AGI of $343,927 or more.


So you are basing your claim that Carroll Spinney is "very close" to being in the "top 1%" on annual household income?
 
2012-10-13 12:33:50 PM  

tomWright: Classic Obama rally?


tom, STAHP.
 
2012-10-13 12:35:11 PM  

tomWright: [images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 596x397]

Classic Obama rally?


Obama, Romney, who cares what anybody wants? Think about why Beeblebrox was the most successful Prez the Galaxy ever had, and it don't matter if your favorite wins, he's not really in charge anyway.
 
2012-10-13 12:36:26 PM  
tomWright:

Your trolling is bad and you should feel bad.
 
2012-10-13 12:36:27 PM  

tomWright: [images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 596x397]

Classic Obama rally?


Isn't that Paul Ryan, second from the right?

timeswampland.files.wordpress.com

Yeah, everyone else looks like a muppet.

/I must be the REAL muppet for seeing the muppet in others!
 
2012-10-13 12:36:46 PM  
How much money are they spending on this march, in comparison to how much PBS gets from the government per year?
 
2012-10-13 12:39:34 PM  
We already had OWS marches. Those were a bunch of muppets.
 
2012-10-13 12:39:55 PM  

Optimal_Illusion: tomWright: [images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 596x397]

Classic Obama rally?

Obama, Romney, who cares what anybody wants? Think about why Beeblebrox was the most successful Prez the Galaxy ever had, and it don't matter if your favorite wins, he's not really in charge anyway.


www.naderlibrary.com

/And they're prescription
 
2012-10-13 12:41:14 PM  
Knowing the Liberals/Democraps....in this Million Muppet March....they will make sure Bert is raping Ernie....Miss Piggy sodomizes Kermit....Gonzo gropes some old ladies....And Elmo is flashed by Fozzie...

This "Big Bird" stuff is getting stupid
 
2012-10-13 12:42:13 PM  

thamike: tomWright: [images1.wikia.nocookie.net image 596x397]

Classic Obama rally?

Isn't that Paul Ryan, second from the right?

[timeswampland.files.wordpress.com image 600x400]

Yeah, everyone else looks like a muppet.

/I must be the REAL muppet for seeing the muppet in others!


He does look kind of Muppet-ish, doesn't he?
 
2012-10-13 12:43:16 PM  
it's as legitimate as buying biden a trans-am, so..... no harm, no foul.
 
2012-10-13 12:44:05 PM  
Oh God. This is what the Obama camp is continuing to kvetch about? Trotting out Muppets isn't going to win the election. At this point, no one gives a shiat about PBS except for the few people who think this is a legitimate political issue.
 
2012-10-13 12:44:56 PM  
screw PBS. they should have kept their B**** mouths shut.
 
2012-10-13 12:45:50 PM  
I hate that this is what people are choosing to focus on. Too difficult to rebute any of those lies he told, amirite?
 
2012-10-13 12:47:22 PM  
Democrats need to get off the Muppets thing. It's not going to change a damn thing in the election, and it looks amateur to try to pump this up into a big issue. And 5-year-olds don't vote.

Yes, Romney's threat to cut the Corporation from Public Broadcasting (and the 0.01% of the federal budget that it represents) was ridiculous and unserious, unbefitting of someone supposedly serious about tackling the budget in a substantive way.

But Democrats need to attack Romney's budget ideas on the whole, and not lose the forest for this one tree.
 
2012-10-13 12:48:34 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: bonefish: Oh the puppeteer for Big Bird makes 314k a year? If you have a problem with it, go be a puppeteer for 40 years as a giant bird.

I don't have a problem with what anyone can earn so long as they are doing it....

1.) Legally
2.) Not with my tax dollars

I'm not against having public workers. We need them for certain things. But we need to be vigilant that we are paying them a fair wage and we need to be certain that we need them. Individual people can spend their money on whatever they want. The government should be very efficient and only pay for things it needs (and only at a fair wage).

I have seen little evidence than the American people benefit from having public funding go towards paying a puppeteer. I also suspect that 314k is well above the median pay for a puppeteer, but I'm unconvinced that, even if we as a society need public funding to hire puppeteers, benefit from having high paid puppeteers over moderately paid ones.


My two year old who learned the entire alphabet before 1 year of age and counted to 20 by 18 months begs to differ but, feel free to cut, cut away and the people who are really really good at what they do for children. He should've been watching Sponge Bob all this time. I'm sure a Nicktoon kid would get that headstart. The stuff that happens on PBS kids wouldn't happen for profit. You're right, investing in the future is bullshiat anyway.
 
2012-10-13 12:53:18 PM  

vpb: It certainly symbolizes what he thinks about education and spending money to help the non-wealthy.


The cartoon is bull....women wouldn't be allowed unless they were bringing coffee.
 
2012-10-13 12:58:34 PM  
dailyhabitz.com 

Guy Smiley - personality = Mitt Romney
 
2012-10-13 01:01:19 PM  
'Amusing', subby?

I think you meant 'asinine'...
 
2012-10-13 01:01:41 PM  
I completely understand why Obama supporters would want to focus on Big Bird instead of Benghazi.

/Thanks Joe!
 
2012-10-13 01:05:22 PM  

soy_bomb: I completely understand why Obama supporters would want to focus on Big Bird instead of Benghazi.


Because we don't get a hard-on when we find out that Americans were murdered?
 
2012-10-13 01:11:06 PM  

thurstonxhowell: soy_bomb: I completely understand why Obama supporters would want to focus on Big Bird instead of Benghazi.

Because we don't get a hard-on when we find out that Americans were murdered?


Or don't get all happy when young Soldiers die in the name of oil
 
2012-10-13 01:22:40 PM  
Romney might kill Sesame Street, but Obama already killed NASA.
 
2012-10-13 01:23:45 PM  
No kids, so I don't really have a dog in this race, but if Sesame Workshop didn't get their annual $7 million dollar subsidy, they would just shut down? They couldn't find a sponsor(s) interested in marketing to an impressionable demo that never changes the channel?

I guess that's why networks like Nickelodeon and Disney are so unprofitable.
 
2012-10-13 01:23:59 PM  

bonefish: Fark_Guy_Rob: bonefish: Oh the puppeteer for Big Bird makes 314k a year? If you have a problem with it, go be a puppeteer for 40 years as a giant bird.

I don't have a problem with what anyone can earn so long as they are doing it....

1.) Legally
2.) Not with my tax dollars

I'm not against having public workers. We need them for certain things. But we need to be vigilant that we are paying them a fair wage and we need to be certain that we need them. Individual people can spend their money on whatever they want. The government should be very efficient and only pay for things it needs (and only at a fair wage).

I have seen little evidence than the American people benefit from having public funding go towards paying a puppeteer. I also suspect that 314k is well above the median pay for a puppeteer, but I'm unconvinced that, even if we as a society need public funding to hire puppeteers, benefit from having high paid puppeteers over moderately paid ones.

My two year old who learned the entire alphabet before 1 year of age and counted to 20 by 18 months begs to differ but, feel free to cut, cut away and the people who are really really good at what they do for children. He should've been watching Sponge Bob all this time. I'm sure a Nicktoon kid would get that headstart. The stuff that happens on PBS kids wouldn't happen for profit. You're right, investing in the future is bullshiat anyway.


I'm not against investing in the future.
I'm also not against public education.

But I do see a whole industry of educational everything imaginable for children, including TV shows, that manage to exist without government funding. I also believe it raises questions of equality, to be perfectly honest. I believe public services should be available to anyone - if you are arguing that educational TV shows need to exist to educate our children, that implicitly means the government needs to provide televisions OR you are supporting a system that puts poor children at a significant disadvantage.

Why should your child get to learn his or her ABCs from Big Bird - just because you can afford a TV?
Admittedly, this is less of a problem now than it was in the 70s.

Having said all that, I'd be more likely to support public funding for purely educational programming.
 
2012-10-13 01:28:48 PM  

legion_of_doo: Romney might kill Sesame Street, but Obama already killed NASA.


Considering the economy is still in the tank because of Georgie Boy, this is not a totally bad idea.

Space will still be there, but we need to take care of other matters, first
 
2012-10-13 01:39:57 PM  
So how many here donate to PBS?
I give $50 a year.
WGBH in Boston (or any other major market) won't be affected by a loss of Gov. $ but some PBS station in East Jesus might.
As I Understand It, The Fed $ Mostly go to pay for underfunded stations. I'd like to think the slack-jawed yokels can count and know the ABCs.

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2012-10-13 01:49:22 PM  

Obama4Life: Nemo's Brother: Obama's performance was so bad that this is all they have now.

Your nose is so far up Romney's butt, you can smell what he had for breakfast


Are you a troll or the next advent of Linux_Yes?
 
2012-10-13 01:53:39 PM  
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2012-10-13 01:54:32 PM  
To be fair, he is removing Sesame Street's indecency
 
2012-10-13 01:56:40 PM  
So happy to see this. It helps me forget about our unprotected, sodomized and murdered ambassador in Benghazi.
 
2012-10-13 01:57:02 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: notmtwain: This story has no legs.

I feel some manipulation going here of an invisible hand of the market place.


Do they just hop right on, or does it take a few drinks first?

/also, yes, shortest 'march' ever if were just muppets
//perhaps more of a 'shuffle'
 
2012-10-13 01:57:29 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: If people really love crap that is on PBS then it doesn't need government funding. People will support it or they'll sell ads or do whatever else.


The whole point of PBS not running ads is so it doesn't end up like TLC. It's not as if we need another channel full of tawdry "reality" shows.
 
2012-10-13 01:57:34 PM  

BullBearMS: Well, yes. It's certainly not important to protest against the decade old endless war in Afghanistan or bullshiat like this:

Lawyers for the Obama administration are arguing that the United States will be irreparably harmed if it has to abide by a judge's ruling that it can no longer hold terrorism suspects indefinitely without trial in military custody.


Please tell me you don't think Romney would end that.

Education is important. I mean, FFS, I never want to witness something like I witnessed in college, ever again. I know I've told the story on Fark before, but here it goes.

One day, I actually listened to a girl getting a basic U.S. Geography lesson in my dorm. She had no concept of where the Mississippi River was.

Ok, that's dumb, but no big deal, right?

This girl was in Air Force ROTC. If all went well, she was on the fast track to becoming an officer.

The guy? If he ever comes back to the United States, he'll have problems. He's vocal about how he feels about Jews, and one of his Weenerss when the USS Cole got hit by a suicide bomber in Yemen, he pointed at the screen and said, excitedly, "Hey, that's my old apartment building!" He wasn't kidding.

Education isn't just something nice that those evil socialists want to do; it's a matter of national security. Part of that is educational programming. PBS still has it. The former NASA Channel has Honey Boo-Boo. The private sector only does as much educational programming as the government forces them to do. There's a lot of homes out there where kids might not have access to a computer, tablet, smart phone, MP3 player, books, regular meals (nutritious or otherwise) or even at times heat, but their parent(s) almost certainly have a TV.

In the area I live in, we have a decent PBS station, with some kind-hearted donors. If the Feds cut CPB funds as part of their vendetta against NPR (don't kid yourselves, that's 99% what this is about) that station will go dark. I learned a lot of basics from Sesame Street, Electric Company (the one with Morgan Freeman), 3-2-1 Contact, Reading Rainbow, Readit, and so on.

Once we get past this, maybe we could get around to listening to the Pentagon, who has pointed out they need healthy, intelligent young men and women more than they need tanks right now.
 
2012-10-13 02:00:11 PM  
Are people still pretending that Sesame Street gets federal funding? It makes hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Ken Burns documentaries and "learn to make shiatty paintings" shows might be in danger from federal cuts, but Big Bird will be just fine.
 
2012-10-13 02:00:38 PM  
why does Fark replace 'time' with 'his Weeners'?
 
2012-10-13 02:02:39 PM  

Whodat: If PBS can't live of the licensing of the Sesame Street characters etc. they have horrible business sense. BTW, Caroll Spinney makes about $314000 a year. Big Bird is very close to being a "1%er".


How many times do we have to go through this? PBS does not own Sesame Street. PBS does not produce Sesame Street. PBS does not get the licensing revenue from Sesame Street. Sesame Street is produced by Sesame Workshop, which in fact does make nice money from the licensing. PBS stations pay Sesame Workshop for the right to air Sesame Street. They're separate entities.
 
2012-10-13 02:04:06 PM  
Hrmm. This reminds me of once upon a time when some asshat politician tried to cut PBS funding.

The proper dem response would be to bring this up and claim Rmoney is no better than Tricky Dick. 'Course today's retarded GOP would refer to Mr. Rogers as a pink commie liberal socialist death panel sekrit mooslin. No way in hell they'll suffer what's really good for the children and actual (not to mention non-secular) family values .
 
2012-10-13 02:04:21 PM  

BATMANATEE: Are people still pretending that Sesame Street gets federal funding? It makes hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Ken Burns documentaries and "learn to make shiatty paintings" shows might be in danger from federal cuts, but Big Bird will be just fine.


The whole issue is that, when that one mean old NPR poo-poo head said not-nice things about Tea Partiers, vendetta was declared. The only way to ensure that NPR never gets one red cent of tax dollars from the Federal government was to defund the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

Sesame Street will be fine. The OTA PBS stations? Not so much. I know the one here will go dark, and they play educational programming nearly all day. Like I said above, there are kids around here who might not even have decent food or heat at home, but they're likely to have a TV, so that source of education outside of their ignorant-ass parents pea brains will be lost.

I honestly credit Sesame Street with helping me learn to read at a pretty decent level by the time I was 4.
 
2012-10-13 02:07:53 PM  
Compete in the open market like everyone else or go off the air.

It's that simple.
 
2012-10-13 02:09:35 PM  
I grew up on PBS television before I started Kindergarten and I really don't recall much benefit if any at all I got from the channel. This is what we're talking about right? Education for kids before they're in school? It was a lot of borderline psychedelic entertainment that had letters and numbers interwoven in it and pushed off as "educational." I got far more educational value playing "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego" for a week than the entire 3 years I watched PBS programming before I started school. The only show I ever learned anything on was Bill Nye the Science Guy but that was a while after I got started with school and had some basic science understanding in the first place

Where I got my head start was my mom was a 4th grade teacher who had one of those Apple II computers with a lot of educational software. That was where I learned how to read and learned addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division

Its a bloated argument for a TV station that is almost self sufficient already
 
2012-10-13 02:12:27 PM  
Does PBS really need govt funding? They rake in millions in licensing fees, donations, etc and pay out crazy high salaries....can't imagine what the govt gives adds much to the bottom line.
 
2012-10-13 02:35:21 PM  

rrife: Does PBS really need govt funding? They rake in millions in licensing fees, donations, etc and pay out crazy high salaries....can't imagine what the govt gives adds much to the bottom line.


How many times do we have to go through this? PBS does not own Sesame Street. PBS does not produce Sesame Street. PBS does not get the licensing revenue from Sesame Street. Sesame Street is produced by Sesame Workshop, which in fact does make nice money from the licensing. PBS stations pay Sesame Workshop for the right to air Sesame Street. They're separate entities.
 
2012-10-13 02:42:33 PM  

theMightyRegeya: BullBearMS: Well, yes. It's certainly not important to protest against the decade old endless war in Afghanistan or bullshiat like this:

Lawyers for the Obama administration are arguing that the United States will be irreparably harmed if it has to abide by a judge's ruling that it can no longer hold terrorism suspects indefinitely without trial in military custody.

Please tell me you don't think Romney would end that.


Romney didn't promise to put an end to the practice of throwing people into military prisons like Gitmo forever without a trial.

Obama did.

Repeatedly.
 
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