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(Nebraska TV)   School allows parent accused of sexual assault to chaperone students on a class field trip...including his victim...who was told to by the principal to "deal with it"   (nebraska.tv) divider line 92
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2012-10-13 08:54:52 AM  
This is all the girl's fault. The principal was obviously testing the veracity of her concerns. Since she did nothing, it must have been some sort of false vendetta against the old volunteer.


/Nah, not really. I would vote for a 2x4 upside the principal's head for being such a jagwipe.
 
2012-10-13 08:56:37 AM  

namatad: And now the school will have to settle with the family, putting peoples hard earned tax dollars to work.
ASSHATS


I guess the school will have to "deal with it."
 
2012-10-13 09:11:17 AM  
When I was in grade school on field trips they would take a few big station wagons, fold the seats down, and pile a bunch of us in the back and we would take turns getting locked in the compartment behind the 3rd seat.
 
2012-10-13 09:13:50 AM  
The article is specific in that he is forbidden contact with any child at the age of 15 and under but he went on a field trip with children age 16 and 17 (junior and senior students) so technically he was okay as well as the teacher who asked him to chaperone was legally within their perameters. Legally yes but ethically/morally is another story. Whoever invited him should be punished and the principal should be terminated for his "suck it up" philosophy...such mean spirited feelings on his part to a student should result in his immediate replacement as principal...perhaps just demoting to the position of newby teacher would be adequate punishment as every day he would have to deal with people who were once under him and his rule to now being low man on the totem pole and them being able to harass him to their hearts content for past evils done them by him...that would be fun.
 
2012-10-13 09:18:30 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: When I was in grade school on field trips they would take a few big station wagons, fold the seats down, and pile a bunch of us in the back and we would take turns getting locked in the compartment behind the 3rd seat.


Bonus points if the parents driving were smoking.
 
2012-10-13 09:29:10 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: BarkingUnicorn: Much better report: Link

The guy is under a court order to stay away from all minors, especially the victim. WTF is he doing volunteering for the school?

Exactly. And FTA you posted: The district currently requires background checks on its employees and substitute teachers but not volunteers, McGowan said.


That amazes me, especially since I know for a fact that if you want to volunteer at any of the public schools in Eugene or Springfield you must pass a background check first.

And, IMHO, that's the way it should be. Sure it costs the school district to have these background checks run, but lawsuits resulting from sex offenders having contact with students costs far more.


Same thing at the school district where I teach: background checks, fingerprinting, etc. for employees, but all volunteers have to do is fill out a paper form (that's promptly filed away) and show up on time. I'm hoping that there's someone overseeing them to catch pedo-like behavior early, but I don't know.
 
2012-10-13 09:30:12 AM  

phojo1946: The article is specific in that he is forbidden contact with any child at the age of 15 and under but he went on a field trip with children age 16 and 17 (junior and senior students) so technically he was okay as well as the teacher who asked him to chaperone was legally within their perameters.


Before the field trip, he was in the school building with students from at least age 12, possibly younger. This is where the victim, an eighth grade student, saw him. Therefore he did indeed violate the restraining order and/or conditions of his bail. Also, fall-birthday students are 15 at the beginning of thier junior year. I was. So the odds are that at least one or two juniors on the field trip were 15.
 
2012-10-13 09:38:17 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-10-13 09:38:39 AM  

Paris1127: The principle sounds like a real Cretin...


Par for the course. Public school employees are government employees. I have learned not to expect a high level of preformce, professionalism and competence from civil servants.
 
2012-10-13 09:41:42 AM  
The ACLU lawyers riding your ass for a bad decision? Deal with it, Tim.
 
2012-10-13 09:44:23 AM  

Paris1127: Pricipal . Caught sayof school has stoped Molesting. " Deal With It" Is He arrested or not. CNN Says yes. Omaha World-Herald Looking for corn -OR- "hello, I am molest single to salute and wait for arrest"


That was beautiful. And one of the best uses of that meme.

This is not going to end well for that school, or that principal either.
 
2012-10-13 10:04:05 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Much better report: Link

The guy is under a court order to stay away from all minors, especially the victim. WTF is he doing volunteering for the school?


Looking for more victims.

He just violated his release terms. Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass "GO". Do not collect $200.00.
 
2012-10-13 10:20:57 AM  

hasty ambush: Paris1127: The principle sounds like a real Cretin...

Par for the course. Public school employees are government employees. I have learned not to expect a high level of preformce, professionalism and competence from civil servants.


No, the story took place in Crete, Nebraska, so... Oh never mind!

TheGreenMonkey: Paris1127: Pricipal . Caught sayof school has stoped Molesting. " Deal With It" Is He arrested or not. CNN Says yes. Omaha World-Herald Looking for corn -OR- "hello, I am molest single to salute and wait for arrest"

That was beautiful. And one of the best uses of that meme.


*Bows*
 
2012-10-13 10:26:24 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: Paterno High?


HA HA! No bites for Trolly McTrollerson!

/Lame troll is lame.
 
2012-10-13 10:41:20 AM  

angrycrank: untaken_name: No Such Agency: untaken_name:
Uh, the guy's awaiting trial....whatever happened to giving child molesters a fair trail before deciding they're guilty?

Due diligence that in this case costs neither party anything? Also, if helping prove my innocence on such a serious charge included not volunteering at the school where my alleged victim was attending for a while, I'd be all about that. Just saying.

Yeah, but I still think that child molesters like this one deserve the decency of a trial before they're inevitably found guilty, as this guy will undoubtedly be.

And? We put all kinds of restrictions on people who are innocent until proven guilty of the crimes they're accused of. That dude here in Montreal who allegedly likes to film himself killing and eating people before mailing their body parts around the country is innocent, but we don't let him run around the city. This guy was accused of sexual assault. He was ordered to stay away from minors. That's far less restrictive than being kept in jail until trial, but he couldn't even do that. No sympathy at all.


What is the duty for innocent people to continue respect the law when the law is making an actual error? Respect is earned by being right.
 
2012-10-13 10:44:48 AM  
The principal likes to sleep with kids, too.
www4.images.coolspotters.com
 
2012-10-13 10:49:05 AM  
Crete school district does have a nice Trust Fund. According to the website, they just received a $200 donation from the Class of '56 or so. That should be enough for the principal and anyone he hired to get a one-way bus ticket out of town,

Sounds like a great school. They probably let kids bring guns to school, girls can wear really short skirts, and the cafeteria serves beer after 12:30.
 
2012-10-13 10:57:27 AM  
Let's see, on one side you have a 52 year-old man, and on the other a high school full of students with access to gym equipment. I think they can "deal with it" just fine.
 
2012-10-13 11:05:53 AM  
The dude sure has a lot of pictures of teenage girls on his facebooks.
 
2012-10-13 11:15:59 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: Much better report: Link

The guy is under a court order to stay away from all minors, especially the victim. WTF is he doing volunteering for the school?


Thanks for that, the other article was horrible in its lack of facts.
 
2012-10-13 11:16:11 AM  
Why can't the girl find some guy closer to her own age to get molested by?
 
2012-10-13 11:16:57 AM  

untaken_name: Uh, the guy's awaiting trial....whatever happened to giving child molesters a fair trail before deciding they're guilty?


You are right he should have a fair trial. But he should have to stay far away from his alleged victim (&other kids) until its all over. Principal should be shot in the nads for not having the best interests of his students in mind. Fire him too
 
2012-10-13 11:43:09 AM  

Joe Peanut: The dude sure has a lot of pictures of teenage girls on his facebooks.


He's plenty creepy but, looking for him on facebook to learn more is creepy as well.
/I did not click your link.
 
2012-10-13 11:47:18 AM  

Evil Mackerel: Joe Peanut: The dude sure has a lot of pictures of teenage girls on his facebooks.

He's plenty creepy but, looking for him on facebook to learn more is creepy as well.
/I did not click your link.


I did and it's a 404 (on my end, anyway).
 
2012-10-13 12:20:45 PM  
Finally a case in which the ACLU is NOT standing up for the child molester.
 
2012-10-13 12:41:29 PM  

limboslam: Finally a case in which the ACLU is NOT standing up for the child molester.


GTFO.
 
2012-10-13 01:17:19 PM  
Student tells principal that another student has a bottle of aspirin/vitamins/pocket knife/drawing of a gun/rubber chicken and the solution is to SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING. Arrest the student, publicly humiliate him, and charge him as an adult with zero tolerance. National media coverage and a 5 minute interview with Anderson Cooper.

Student tells principal that her sexual abuser with a court order is volunteering at the school. Solution: Get over it.

You know, I'm all for schools not flipping their shiat at every little thing and blowing things way out of proportion, but seriously? The one time it would have been farking justified and the principal tells her to get over it!? Are you farking kidding me!? Fire that principal. Immediately. He is unfit to supervise a sedate monkey, let alone a school full of teenagers.
 
2012-10-13 01:18:48 PM  

DrBenway: Bathia_Mapes: BarkingUnicorn: Much better report: Link

The guy is under a court order to stay away from all minors, especially the victim. WTF is he doing volunteering for the school?

Exactly. And FTA you posted: The district currently requires background checks on its employees and substitute teachers but not volunteers, McGowan said.


That amazes me, especially since I know for a fact that if you want to volunteer at any of the public schools in Eugene or Springfield you must pass a background check first.

And, IMHO, that's the way it should be. Sure it costs the school district to have these background checks run, but lawsuits resulting from sex offenders having contact with students costs far more.

A hell of a lot less than mandatory drug tests for students, I'd reckon. And a lot more sensible.


The last school I worked for required employees and volunteers to pay for their own FBI/BCI background check.
 
2012-10-13 01:20:21 PM  
Life begins at legitimate rape.

Because Socialism.
 
2012-10-13 01:44:50 PM  
Deal with it.
 
2012-10-13 01:45:17 PM  
The natural response in large organizations is to protect the guilty and accuse the accuser. I've experienced this personally. Maybe it's human nature, maybe it's something to do with the power structure of large organizations, I don't know for sure, but I am sure that is the pattern of behavior most common. True understanding, empathy, concern, these ideas do not play a part in the decision process. The question more often is "How can we make this all go away so I don't have to deal with it." The answer is simple, tell someone under you to deal with it.
 
2012-10-13 01:47:34 PM  
OMFG the principal should be fired and barred from ever holding a teaching job or principal's position or serving on a school board.

He can flip burgers for a living whiling thinking of how much of a dumbass he is.

if the guy had been cleared of the charges fine but he had not yet gone to trial. No way in hell he should have even been considered to be allowed as a school volunteer.
 
2012-10-13 01:49:08 PM  

gadian: Paris1127: Pricipal . Caught sayof school has stoped Molesting. " Deal With It" Is He arrested or not. CNN Says yes. Omaha World-Herald Looking for corn -OR- "hello, I am molest single to salute and wait for arrest"

Meow?


I was wondering the same...

/been here too long...
 
2012-10-13 01:57:01 PM  
Principal deserves to be biatch-slapped. By Superman.
 
2012-10-13 03:40:33 PM  
Cretins
 
2012-10-13 03:55:48 PM  
The link to their webpage with contact info.

http://www.creteschools.com/vnews/display.v/SEC/High%20School

Here is the link to the Nebraska Educational certificate investigations department. (The people who research proper conduct for teachers and educators.)

http://www.education.ne.gov/CC/index.html


i1299.photobucket.com


/said douchenozzle
 
2012-10-13 05:10:18 PM  

mooseyfate: Student tells principal that another student has a bottle of aspirin/vitamins/pocket knife/drawing of a gun/rubber chicken and the solution is to SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING. Arrest the student, publicly humiliate him, and charge him as an adult with zero tolerance. National media coverage and a 5 minute interview with Anderson Cooper.

Student tells principal that her sexual abuser with a court order is volunteering at the school. Solution: Get over it.

You know, I'm all for schools not flipping their shiat at every little thing and blowing things way out of proportion, but seriously? The one time it would have been farking justified and the principal tells her to get over it!? Are you farking kidding me!? Fire that principal. Immediately. He is unfit to supervise a sedate monkey, let alone a school full of teenagers.


This sedate monkey you speak of, does it have a number? This is relevant to my interests....

Seriously, the principal needs a good shoeing. I wouldn't normally advocate violence, but something tells me that he wouldn't get the point any other way. Not even at the end of a pitchfork.
 
2012-10-13 05:13:13 PM  

OregonVet: Bathia_Mapes: And, IMHO, that's the way it should be. Sure it costs the school district to have these background checks run, but lawsuits resulting from sex offenders having contact with students costs far more.

Our district requires a background check and fingerprinting done at the police station. It costs the volunteer $20 and takes about fifteen minutes. If we go to the zoo, for example, non-vetted parents may accompany their child's group and assist the volunteer, but cannot go off alone with students. There is no way in hell anyone would be told "deal with it".


That's a good plan.
 
2012-10-13 05:18:02 PM  

ambercat: By 'deal with it' I'll just assume he meant hitting the offender in the nuts with a hammer, or getting a large male relative to do it for her. Because that's the only that makes sense here. Unless he was implying the whole 'shovel and a lot of land' scenario?


According to the article that BarkingUnicorn linked to this guy had been ordered by the court to not have any contact with the girl or any of the students who were under the age of 15. So this guy violated a court order by his very presence at the school.


From BarkingUnicorn's article: The court ordered Eggebraaten to stay away from the girl and all kids under the age of 15. At least one staff member knew of the court order, McGowan said.
 
2012-10-13 06:01:06 PM  
I'm given to understand that during a legitimate molestation, the body has ways of shutting that whole thing down.
 
2012-10-13 06:59:24 PM  
as an aside...

Eggebraaten... is that like eggs and brats? eggs and sausage?

how do you like your eggebraaten?

/fried
 
2012-10-14 12:10:34 PM  

the_chief: Life begins at legitimate rape.

Because Socialism.


If this story involved legitimate rape the school would have had ways to shut that whole thing down.
 
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