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(Huffington Post)   Attention Women, GOP Senatorial candidate Rick Berg (R-eal Asshole) says if you're raped and get pregnant as a result, it's your responsibility to raise the child because abortion is never the answer   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2012-10-12 11:21:47 PM  

Shostie: I mean, you CAN'T give the kid to the rapist. That's just wrong!


end of goddamn thread!
 
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2012-10-12 11:22:59 PM  

bulldg4life: Zeppelininthesky: The sad part is some women are actually eating up this shiat with a spoon and will vote for them no matter what.

That's because the women are under the impression that every abortion is wrong except for theirs


yeah, like keep your socialist hands off mah medicare!
 
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2012-10-12 11:24:32 PM  

GOP

Get the government off the backs of big business

Get the government into the lives of all women.
 
2012-10-12 11:24:36 PM  

Relatively Obscure: Brick-House: I personally don't agree with this, but I fail to see how this gets the sick tag? And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.

Is it safe to assume that they weren't forced to do so?


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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD QUIT QUOTING TROLLS. SOME OF US HAVE THEM ON IGNORE, AND YOU COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE. ALL THEY WANT IS ATTENTION, NOT A THOUGHTFUL REBUTTAL. "OH WOW! I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT QUITE LIKE THAT BEFORE! GOOD POINT! THANKS FOR HELPING ME UNDERSTAND YOUR SIDE OF IT A LITTLE BETTER!" 

/CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
 
2012-10-12 11:26:08 PM  
It's a child, not a choice.
 
2012-10-12 11:26:20 PM  

Shostie: I mean, you CAN'T give the kid to the rapist. That's just wrong!


What if THIS is exactly what we do? Give the child to the rapist. You raped this woman. You deal with the consequence.

Same goes for dead beat dads.

We'd have to sacrifice probably one generation before rapists used condoms and men really farking thought about where they put their dicks.
 
2012-10-12 11:26:59 PM  

Brick-House: I personally don't agree with this, but I fail to see how this gets the sick tag? And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.


And none of the rapists.
 
2012-10-12 11:28:04 PM  

Mixolydian Master: Relatively Obscure: Brick-House: I personally don't agree with this, but I fail to see how this gets the sick tag? And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.

Is it safe to assume that they weren't forced to do so?

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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD QUIT QUOTING TROLLS. SOME OF US HAVE THEM ON IGNORE, AND YOU COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE. ALL THEY WANT IS ATTENTION, NOT A THOUGHTFUL REBUTTAL. "OH WOW! I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT QUITE LIKE THAT BEFORE! GOOD POINT! THANKS FOR HELPING ME UNDERSTAND YOUR SIDE OF IT A LITTLE BETTER!" 

/CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL


You know you can also ignore any posts that quote someone on your ignore list, last I checked, right?
 
2012-10-12 11:28:05 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Gyrfalcon: Have these guys not figured out that every time they open their mouths about rape they lose voters? God is not going to vote them into office all by himself.

It's North Dakota. He has an R next to his name. He could be named Hitler, he'll still win


I don't know about that, Heitkamp actually has a chance. In unrelated news (csb time), in a few weeks I get to play at a GOTV rally that she and Ryan Taylor (governatorial candidate) will be at.

Which reminds me, (more csb) I played the state Republican convention a few years ago - that was a, well, interesting gig. We were a funk and soul band and when we came on stage and started to play it was hard stares and farkin' crickets, man. And we were killing it - Earth Wind and Fire, Stevie Wonder, L.T.D., all of it. About 30 minutes of no response I told the horn players to take a break. We started playing country music and no shiat, the audience all started two-stepping. If this sounds like the Bob's Country Bunker scene from Blues Brothers, that would be the best way to describe it - the only thing missing was goddamned chicken wire. Talk about a mis-hire, even though I told them exactly what we were... Rates as one of my top weirdest farking gigs ever.

Afterward I got a call from one of the candidates (who was a musician) to go on the road with him. I told him I was flattered and I'd have to think about it. The current Tea Party moniker hadn't yet been coined, but after checking his website, it was apparent this guy was that to the nines. Lots of songs about 'Merica. Blah. I politely declined. These days it wouldn't be so polite.
 
2012-10-12 11:28:11 PM  
It's a choice not a child.
 
2012-10-12 11:28:48 PM  
Yeah, the Dakotas seemed nice and Scandinavian in their political outlook but I think being nearly 100% white really twisted them up. Oh, except for the "mudrace timber n-ggers."
 
2012-10-12 11:28:54 PM  
I miss the good old days when the GOP was all about consensual man-on-man or openly fapping to Sarah Palin instead of the Rapeublicanism of the last year.

These guys' burning shame-obsession with sex combined with their coercive and repressive Puritanism is just bizarre and psychologically warped. Nobody talks about sex in politics as much as these people, and when they do, they are constantly talking about forcibly penetrating and controlling women's bodies.

This is farked up.
 
2012-10-12 11:29:33 PM  
That was the most terrifying and overlooked thing of the Vice Presidential debates. The next President will determine between 2-3 Supreme Court justices. This isn't just a lower taxes versus higher taxes sort of deal. The next President will be determining the thrust of the country for the next thirty years or so. If you want Scalia and his ilk determining what is constitutional, by all means vote for Romney, but if that terrifies you - as it does me - vote for Obama. Citizens United was just the beginning, unless this court is stopped.
 
2012-10-12 11:30:47 PM  
Remember, the GOP is protecting the rights of raped women to bear their children. After all, rape is the only way that conservative reproduce.
 
2012-10-12 11:31:13 PM  

bobbette: I miss the good old days when the GOP was all about consensual man-on-man or openly fapping to Sarah Palin instead of the Rapeublicanism of the last year.

These guys' burning shame-obsession with sex combined with their coercive and repressive Puritanism is just bizarre and psychologically warped. Nobody talks about sex in politics as much as these people, and when they do, they are constantly talking about forcibly penetrating and controlling women's bodies.

This is farked up.


Don't forget their weird obsession with the intimate details of gay anal sex. My gay college roomate did not talk about dicks in butts as much as the GOP
 
2012-10-12 11:32:32 PM  
does that chicken look tired to you?
that chicken looks tired.
they should stop farking it like its a winning position. it hurts the chicken and it hurts us all when such extreme examples are mainstream discourse in this country.
 
2012-10-12 11:34:14 PM  
I wish people would stop saying pro-life most of these people believe in the death penalty(also, if you say why not kill it in the womb and skip the middle man, they do not see the humour in that statement) they are anti-abortionist and pro-life is a spin doctor term

/anyone who doesn't believe in abortion needs to be adopting children from the foster system, put your money where your mouth is
 
2012-10-12 11:35:33 PM  

Brick-House: And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.


And you're OK that the government can force them to do this?

So, if I'm obsessed with some starlet (Taylor Swift?) and I rape and knock her up, she will be forced, by law, to carry it to term?

Can I sue for visitation?
 
2012-10-12 11:38:38 PM  
I've been doing a great deal of reading lately, mostly Wikipedia and SPLC, about the weird convoluted connections between the current GOP "Christians" and the Dominionists, including Rushdoony's massive influence on people like Falwell and Robertson and then down through the hierarchy. It's a very scary and purist world that they want to impose, but it actually makes no logical sense. Logically, you would want to distribute birth control in order to prevent abortions, but they actually even hate birth control more than they do abortions. Bottom line is that you can take your most exaggerated extremist stereotype of what you fear the most about the plans of the GOP's religious beliefs, and the reality is even worse than the worst libby lib's pipe dreams. They are vicious and relentless, and they will stop at nothing.
 
2012-10-12 11:38:45 PM  
If you're "pro-life" and ok with exceptions then you are a hypocrite and don't deserve to be trusted.
 
2012-10-12 11:40:11 PM  
GOPwinkle: "Hey media, watch me garner votes by pulling misogynistic bullshiat out of my ass!"
MSM: "Again? But that trick never works!"
GOPwinkle: "This time for sure!"
 
2012-10-12 11:43:07 PM  
As a Canadian, I have to say: I really don't get your republican party. We have many Christians (and other religions, ect)...they don't act like this.
 
2012-10-12 11:44:00 PM  

Without Fail: Brick-House: And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.

And you're OK that the government can force them to do this?

So, if I'm obsessed with some starlet (Taylor Swift?) and I rape and knock her up, she will be forced, by law, to carry it to term?

Can I sue for visitation?


Taylor, I'm really happy for you, and Imma let you finish...
 
2012-10-12 11:44:16 PM  

Without Fail: Can I sue for visitation?


In many states, you actually can.

Britney Spear's Speculum: If you're "pro-life" and ok with exceptions then you are a hypocrite and don't deserve to be trusted.


I've never met a pro-life person yet outside of Catholic clergy who was anything remotely close to actually being pro-life. The second someone who claims to be pro-life starts going off about needing going out and using the military to kick someone's ass or cutting benefits to the needy they invalidate any claim they have to being pro-life.
 
2012-10-12 11:45:44 PM  
What is it about Todd Akin that just opened the floodgates of idiocy about rape?
 
2012-10-12 11:46:09 PM  

schubie: Yeah, the Dakotas seemed nice and Scandinavian in their political outlook but I think being nearly 100% white really twisted them up. Oh, except for the "mudrace timber n-ggers."


It has gotten more polarized in the last 10 years or so. I honestly think it's partially because right-wing Internet punditry has made the rounds in that time and found a lot of suckers.

Also Evangelical Christianity has gotten a LOT stronger up here. It used to be Lutheran churches (which are relatively liberal) totally dominated, but these days I'm seeing a lot of stricter sects and even a few mini-megachurches (as mega as you can get up here).

But try to engage anybody over 30 in political discussion and you'll get a lot of push back: "Whoa whoa whoa, take it easy! So I was f-ing my wife in her a--, right?" That kind of thing.

Truth is people up here do NOT want to engage. I started to get into it with a coworker today after he sat there and lied to my face about how Obama's taxes are killing business in the country. Right? I was emboldened by Mean Joe last night and told him to prove it - show me that's true and that it has a negative effect. And I was pissed, no backing down - you're lying. He stammered off and said he would. I haven't seen shiat. But everybody else was" get that shiat out of here" then went back to Facebooking. Goddamned jante law.
 
2012-10-12 11:50:15 PM  
So the term "Rape-ublicans" is still legitimate? I can't keep track anymore.
 
2012-10-12 11:51:40 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: AdolfOliverPanties: What the fark is wrong with these people?

Religion.


As bad as religion often is, in this case, it's pretty clear he is probably the kind of person who would be best utilized by being strangled to death with his own entrails for the mass entertainment of others all on his own.
 
2012-10-12 11:53:21 PM  
So despite the fact that it's a costly endeavor to raise a child, some Republicans are against killing it to save state money which will be spent on education, medical treatment, food stamps, and a variety of other costs? ZOMG they must be heartless bastards who hate people and want them to die!!! oh, wait, now the problem is that they want them to live. got it.

/votes Libertarian. We're the truly heartless bastards who don't care about anyone but ourselves.
 
2012-10-12 11:53:25 PM  

Without Fail: Brick-House: And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.

And you're OK that the government can force them to do this?

So, if I'm obsessed with some starlet (Taylor Swift?) and I rape and knock her up, she will be forced, by law, to carry it to term?

Can I sue for visitation?


Of course you can.
 
2012-10-12 11:54:35 PM  

Huggermugger: I've been doing a great deal of reading lately, mostly Wikipedia and SPLC, about the weird convoluted connections between the current GOP "Christians" and the Dominionists, including Rushdoony's massive influence on people like Falwell and Robertson and then down through the hierarchy. It's a very scary and purist world that they want to impose, but it actually makes no logical sense. Logically, you would want to distribute birth control in order to prevent abortions, but they actually even hate birth control more than they do abortions. Bottom line is that you can take your most exaggerated extremist stereotype of what you fear the most about the plans of the GOP's religious beliefs, and the reality is even worse than the worst libby lib's pipe dreams. They are vicious and relentless, and they will stop at nothing.


I keep hammering my pro-life friends with the contradictions in their positions. specifically, the catholics. you *cannot* pick and choose with catholic doctrine - you either believe in ALL of it, or you aren't in the silly hat club anymore. which means that if you want to be a pro-life catholic you also have to sign up for the catholic church's social justice beliefs as well. so no more Ayn Rand worship: the church actually means it when they say that Catholics have a duty to help the sick and poor. problem is...I know these people. I know for a fact that they LOVE Ayn Rand. they LOVE to f*ck over poor people and look out for themselves. they do NOT like it when I point out that they're violating their own religious beliefs and that, theologically speaking, they're technically heretics...or at least no longer members in good standing with the Church.
 
2012-10-12 11:55:17 PM  

BoxOfBees:
/votes Libertarian. We're the truly heartless bastards who don't care about anyone but ourselves.


actually, that's not entirely true. the libertarians are, right now anyways, busy shooting themselves in both feet.
 
2012-10-12 11:58:50 PM  

Shostie: I mean, you CAN'T give the kid to the rapist. That's just wrong!


In 31 states, a convicted rapist can still sue for custody, giving them another way to inflict more damage and pain on their victim.
 
2012-10-12 11:59:45 PM  

WhyteRaven74: I've never met a pro-life person yet outside of Catholic clergy who was anything remotely close to actually being pro-life. The second someone who claims to be pro-life starts going off about needing going out and using the military to kick someone's ass or cutting benefits to the needy they invalidate any claim they have to being pro-life.


That too, however, in the arena of the "unborn" that jesus freaks seem to feel is so sacred that it's beyond human understanding, making exceptions for rape or life of mother is hypocritical. If they want to falsely believe a fetus is >>>>> a living breathing human, then it is up to the pro-choice people to call them on it and hold them to it.
 
2012-10-13 12:01:43 AM  

WizardofToast: What is it about Todd Akin that just opened the floodgates of idiocy about rape?


The "spastic tubes shutting down" thing has been a back-of-the-church "fact" for years now. Much like the speaking in tongues routine, they usually know better than to do it in public, at a job interview, or while being pulled over for a DWI checkpoint. Usually. And now that the general public has been tipped off to this gob-smacking sh*t-for-brains nonsense, it catches the media's eye, because they know it's not simply some old politician showing symptoms of a minor stroke, it's what they tell each other when they do really awful things.
 
2012-10-13 12:02:36 AM  

Huggermugger: the current GOP "Christians" and the Dominionists,


This wiki article is a good place to start, and there's a lot more about them on the net
 
2012-10-13 12:03:47 AM  

RobertBruce: And you'd rather there be two victims? Asshole.


cause we all know a zygote is the same exact thing as a fully developed human being after it is born.

praise jesus.
 
2012-10-13 12:04:13 AM  

Brick-House: I personally don't agree with this, but I fail to see how this gets the sick tag? And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.


Well, to insist that a woman allow the rapist's child to grow inside her for 9 months then go through delivery is a bit farking twisted. She had a bad enough time being raped, now she has to endure pregnancy for almost a year, and go through the excruciating pain of delivery. I can pretty much guarantee that if you raped this guy's wife, and got her pregnant, he'd have a different point of view... that is, if he actually loves her.
 
2012-10-13 12:04:20 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: jesus freaks


The real fun is bringing up to them what Jewish law said about abortion in Jesus' time, it was allowed for certain cases, and that Jesus apparently never had a problem with that law, seeing as there's no record, even in non-canonical works of him voicing any issue with the law.
 
2012-10-13 12:04:54 AM  

GAT_00: Question: how can you be "pro-life" while cutting the safety net and being pro-war? Both of those are against life.


It's perfect nutjob logic. Those unaborted rape babies, growing up without any kind of security granted, are unlikely to ever have a chance to contest that farkwits' positions. Basically they're future war fodder. Some retire retroactively, some are aborted retroactively. It's easy for those hypocrites. You can have both and still call it God's will.
 
2012-10-13 12:09:00 AM  
Rapeney / Rapeyn 2012
 
2012-10-13 12:11:43 AM  

Ryker's Peninsula: Rapeney / Rapeyn 2012


Ahh, the Rapeblican ticket
 
2012-10-13 12:14:31 AM  

Mixolydian Master: Relatively Obscure: Brick-House: I personally don't agree with this, but I fail to see how this gets the sick tag? And many women have had babies that resulted from rape, some raising them, some putting them up for adoption.

Is it safe to assume that they weren't forced to do so?

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FOR THE LOVE OF GOD QUIT QUOTING TROLLS. SOME OF US HAVE THEM ON IGNORE, AND YOU COMPLETELY DEFEAT THE PURPOSE. ALL THEY WANT IS ATTENTION, NOT A THOUGHTFUL REBUTTAL. "OH WOW! I NEVER THOUGHT OF IT QUITE LIKE THAT BEFORE! GOOD POINT! THANKS FOR HELPING ME UNDERSTAND YOUR SIDE OF IT A LITTLE BETTER!" 

/CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL



Settle down, Beavis.

I don't know who all of the people you decided were trolls are. I don't even keep serious track of the people I've thought are trolls. So, there's a good chance I might inadvertently do that to you again. It may be safer to ignore me. Or, you could check " Ignore posts from unignored users that mention users on your ignore list (Exact match of bolded names)"
 
2012-10-13 12:15:55 AM  
The GOP is pro-life because they figure if a woman spends nine months lugging around an unwanted parasite that someone else imposed upon them, they'll be more likely to vote Republican.

They're pro-war because the only real use for lower-class kids is cannon fodder.
 
2012-10-13 12:16:22 AM  

dahmers love zombie: So if a fertilized egg is intentionally kept from implanting, the woman who does it should be facing 20 to life. Why won't the "pro-life" crowd admit that?


That's pretty much what "personhood laws" are about.
 
2012-10-13 12:19:32 AM  
It's at least a consistent position, but man, I just don't get it.

Should all miscarriages be investigated as homicides? Should all women be requird to submit a recent pregnancy test before being served alcohol or allowed to buy tobacco? I mean, if abortion becomes illegal and abortion providers are given criminal sentences, is a woman who intentionally takes enough medication/alochol/whatever to force her body to miscarry, is she a murderer? What if she just goes out for a night of drinking without knowing she's pregnant?

The logical follow through on life begins at conception implies that all women should be confied to bed after their first period and not allowed to interact with the outside world because it may harm their unborn child. It's insane.

I honestly feel the status-quo is about right. Surely, at some point, a fetus transitions into a human. But that point is at like 22-24 weeks (though I'm not a biologist/medical ethics person/whatever and can be talked into varying degrees of this).

But if life begins at 0.01 seconds... man. Margaret Atwood was right.
 
2012-10-13 12:19:32 AM  

Charlie Freak: Lost Thought 00: Gyrfalcon: Have these guys not figured out that every time they open their mouths about rape they lose voters? God is not going to vote them into office all by himself.

It's North Dakota. He has an R next to his name. He could be named Hitler, he'll still win

I don't know about that, Heitkamp actually has a chance. In unrelated news (csb time), in a few weeks I get to play at a GOTV rally that she and Ryan Taylor (governatorial candidate) will be at.

Which reminds me, (more csb) I played the state Republican convention a few years ago - that was a, well, interesting gig. We were a funk and soul band and when we came on stage and started to play it was hard stares and farkin' crickets, man. And we were killing it - Earth Wind and Fire, Stevie Wonder, L.T.D., all of it. About 30 minutes of no response I told the horn players to take a break. We started playing country music and no shiat, the audience all started two-stepping. If this sounds like the Bob's Country Bunker scene from Blues Brothers, that would be the best way to describe it - the only thing missing was goddamned chicken wire. Talk about a mis-hire, even though I told them exactly what we were... Rates as one of my top weirdest farking gigs ever.

Afterward I got a call from one of the candidates (who was a musician) to go on the road with him. I told him I was flattered and I'd have to think about it. The current Tea Party moniker hadn't yet been coined, but after checking his website, it was apparent this guy was that to the nines. Lots of songs about 'Merica. Blah. I politely declined. These days it wouldn't be so polite.


That is a CSB. Who the fark doesn't love Earth, Wind, & Fire, anyway?
 
2012-10-13 12:21:14 AM  

mavrickatubc: As a Canadian, I have to say: I really don't get your republican party. We have many Christians (and other religions, ect)...they don't act like this.


As an American, I have to say we have many loud "Christians", actual Christians are a smaller minority, IMHO. Hope that clears things up...
 
2012-10-13 12:24:35 AM  
Women, I'm sorry. I'd just like to inform you that if I'm on your jury when you end these people... You'll go free. It's all good. Do what you need to do. I completely understand.
 
2012-10-13 12:28:19 AM  
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