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(Billings Gazette)   SWAT team raids home seeking non-existent meth lab. Lousy homeowners upset that their daughter was burned by a flash grenade instead of grateful no one was killed   (billingsgazette.com) divider line 19
    More: Asinine, SWAT team, liver failure, grenades, Second-degree burn, homeowners, Jackie Fasching  
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2012-10-12 05:36:47 PM  
6 votes:

serial_crusher: protip: don't live nextdoor to a meth lab.


My neighbors just returned the "Are you cooking meth in your house?" survey card I sent out, but they all checked "undecided"
2012-10-12 07:01:35 PM  
4 votes:
FTFA: A SWAT member attached it to a boomstick, a metal pole that detonates the grenade, and stuck it through the bedroom window. St. John said the grenade normally stays on the boomstick so it goes off in a controlled manner at a higher level.


Family sounds like a bunch of primitive screw-heads who didn't listen up.
2012-10-12 10:47:19 PM  
2 votes:
Lots of cop hate in this thread.

Hey, I know in this case they made a mistake, but they're obviously very sorry, and I'll bet if you think about it, even the most jaded among you will admit that there are times when such militaristic measures - or even harsher action is completely warranted.

For instance, I know of a place right there in Billings that at this moment is brimming with every kind of drug and arms imaginable, where heavily armed, callous thugs that have no respect for the law or their fellow human beings come and go at will, day and night, and the neighbors don't dare breathe a word.

How would you feel if you had to deal with a situation like that?
2012-10-12 07:55:17 PM  
2 votes:
St. John said investigators did plenty of homework on the residence before deciding to launch the raid but didn't know children were inside.

and

However, the officer didn't realize that there was a delay on the grenade when he tried to detonate it.

Let's see here. Non-existent meth lab, didn't know children were present, officers didn't understand how the grenade worked. Yep. Certainly sounds like they did plenty of homework.
2012-10-13 12:06:30 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: Smallberries: WHO the HELL throws a flash bang into a METH LAB?



People who've never passed high school chemistry without copying answers off their neighbor.


In other words, cops.
2012-10-12 11:47:37 PM  
1 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: fark that guy he's a douchewagon

That was my second choice for a FARK monicker.

/chicken caesars are cruel


in case you haven't met him:

Link
2012-10-12 11:12:51 PM  
1 votes:

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: We cool? Fist bump?


*Bump*
2012-10-12 10:52:10 PM  
1 votes:

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Why was jigger's post and image removed? It was a photo FROM THE ARTICLE.



Oops,

I hope I didn't commit a BAD with that last post...

FORGIVE ME MODS!!!!
2012-10-12 10:00:01 PM  
1 votes:

Marine1: Meth makes you do some farked up shiat that you probably wouldn't do if you weren't speeding your ass off.

Example:

Throw grenades into a bedroom where children are sleeping, where there is no crime being committed.
2012-10-12 09:37:31 PM  
1 votes:

MilkIt: phrawgh: Bathia_Mapes: phrawgh: You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. While this incident is regrettable, something has to be done to bring these meth heads and dopers under control so they stop preying on our children. It may be cliche but 'if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about' applies. Apparently the police found evidence of other illegal activity anyway. Police have a hard job to do and we should support them rather than question their every move.

You do realize that if there had been a meth lab present in the home the flash grenade could have caused it to explode, right? The explosion would have very likely caused significant injury to both the family members in the home AND the police officers.

We have to win the war on drugs as the future of America and our children depend on it. As in any war there will always be innocent casualties. I do not care if there was a roach in the ash tray, the entire household should be incarcerated and receive outreach counseling from local religious organizations so these people have a chance at turning their lives around. For all we know the girl had one of those portable meth labs near her causing the burns. The police are in the middle of the investigation so they can't come out with all the facts and possibly mess up the case. Once all this blows over and the media attention dies down, I'm sure the police will be able to do what they need to do without the prying eyes and ridicule of the public and dopeheads.

The stupid...it burns sooooo much like a flash-bang in a little girl's bed.


FTFY
2012-10-12 09:30:27 PM  
1 votes:
Wow. Really??? 87 comments and no

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2012-10-12 09:10:22 PM  
1 votes:

phrawgh: You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. While this incident is regrettable, something has to be done to bring these meth heads and dopers under control so they stop preying on our children. It may be cliche but 'if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about' applies. Apparently the police found evidence of other illegal activity anyway. Police have a hard job to do and we should support them rather than question their every move.


4/10. "E" for "Effort" but really, you're trying to play devil's advocate when the Devil kicked a puppy.
2012-10-12 08:46:40 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: phrawgh: You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. While this incident is regrettable, something has to be done to bring these meth heads and dopers under control so they stop preying on our children. It may be cliche but 'if you are doing nothing wrong, you have nothing to worry about' applies. Apparently the police found evidence of other illegal activity anyway. Police have a hard job to do and we should support them rather than question their every move.

You do realize that if there had been a meth lab present in the home the flash grenade could have caused it to explode, right? The explosion would have very likely caused significant injury to both the family members in the home AND the police officers.


We have to win the war on drugs as the future of America and our children depend on it. As in any war there will always be innocent casualties. I do not care if there was a roach in the ash tray, the entire household should be incarcerated and receive outreach counseling from local religious organizations so these people have a chance at turning their lives around. For all we know the girl had one of those portable meth labs near her causing the burns. The police are in the middle of the investigation so they can't come out with all the facts and possibly mess up the case. Once all this blows over and the media attention dies down, I'm sure the police will be able to do what they need to do without the prying eyes and ridicule of the public and dopeheads.
2012-10-12 08:16:17 PM  
1 votes:
Look at the bright side; when they actually find a meth lab and use one of those boomsticks, they'll probably blow themselves to hell.
2012-10-12 08:03:43 PM  
1 votes:

Smallberries: WHO the HELL throws a flash bang into a METH LAB?



People who've never passed high school chemistry without copying answers off their neighbor.
2012-10-12 07:53:49 PM  
1 votes:
Waiting for CruiserTwelve to come and tell us why this is entirely reasonable police procedure and why the officers involved showed restraint and good judgement.
xcv
2012-10-12 07:52:08 PM  
1 votes:
Situations like this is exactly why SWAT teams and no-knock warrants exist: if law enforcement didn't bash down doors those no-good junkies might flush suspected meth labs down the toilet when the cops knocked.
2012-10-12 07:48:29 PM  
1 votes:
Remove the monetary incentive: remove the violence.

Money=violence.

That is all.

*)
2012-10-12 04:31:14 PM  
1 votes:
That's some fine police work there, Police Chief Rich St. John
 
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