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2012-10-12 06:20:36 PM

slayer199: MadAzza: Manslaughter isn't murder.

Ah, but it is. Most of the time it's a murder 2 charge that's plea-bargained down to manslaughter. Bottom line is that someone was killed.


Doesn't the seven year stat represent time served, not time sentenced? There's a large difference. And I'd like a citation for "most of the time". Otherwise, I'm saying most of the time it's vehicular manslaughter, which had no intent. Or most of the time... It was aliens.

/really don't care about what happens to this waste of nutrition
 
2012-10-12 06:21:52 PM
Check it out:
A white woman gets 19 years for killing her adopted kid.

Gosh, 99 years for being an idiotic, child kicking rage-queen doesn't seem to be a fair sentence in contrast to the above story. Is it because she's a Mexican in Texas?
 
2012-10-12 06:22:17 PM
Good riddance. Shes a worthless POS. She should get 99 years just for the pathetic horrible gang tattoo on her neck.
 
2012-10-12 06:22:18 PM
I was kind of like, Whhaaaa? at the headline, then I remembered the whole story. This wasn't just "she lost it" which most of us can have at least a little sympathy for. This was torture--she had to go through certain steps to put the kid in this condition, steps that took her a little while to carry out. I guess at no point did she think to herself, "OMG, I just really hurt my kid, I need to stop" or "I'm not going to go get that superglue, she's just a baby" or-- fark I can't go on.

Your own child. You're broken, lady. I'm sorry for whatever happened to you to make you such a piece of shiat, but good-bye now.
 
2012-10-12 06:23:56 PM

cookiefleck: If this girl doesn't come out of this a vegetable, the psychiatric bills will be astronomical..


Sounds like she's making a recovery: "She was in a coma for a couple days but she shocked doctors with a relatively quick recovery and is now doing well and living with her grandmother and four siblings. It's still unclear what, if any, long-term health problems Jocelyn may have as a result of her mother's torture."
 
2012-10-12 06:24:29 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: SnarfVader: Wow. Just wow. That's a life sentence. Horrendous as the crime may be, I'm not sure the punishment fits. You can murder somebody and not get as much time.

culpability X responsibility X depravity = sentencing.

Do you want to know more?


interesting...

but why not throw her in for 20 years, her kid will be old enough to have been teen pregnant and beating her own 2 year old by then. Plus bad mom's ovaries will be rotten and she won't have a child to abuse.
 
2012-10-12 06:25:27 PM
Didn't this bush update her Facebook while simultaneously torturing her child?
 
2012-10-12 06:25:32 PM

Ambitwistor: Sounds like she's making a recovery:


A physical recovery, that is.
 
2012-10-12 06:25:53 PM

big pig peaches: hbk72777: SnarfVader: Wow. Just wow. That's a life sentence. Horrendous as the crime may be, I'm not sure the punishment fits. You can murder somebody and not get as much time.

You know, I've seen a lot of idiots post this all over the web. When someone is murdered, it's usually quick. This kid had to endure hell. A slow torturous death..This kid was too young to cry out for help. If you think that this doesn't deserve this long of a sentence, you're just as sick as the perpetrator.

This.

And just because some people don't get what they deserve, doesn't mean this piece of garbage didn't deserve what she got.

And I hope female prisoners are as tough on child killers as male prisoners.


I worked as a Corrections Officer in a Texas women's prison for eight months during 2010. The inmates did NOT, in most cases, ever reveal what landed them in prison but rumors get out. Oddly enough, the trend was to live only in the moment and not ask questions about another inmate's past. Inmates treated each other based on current behavior, not on what they'd done in the past. And yes, we did have quite a few inmates who were in for killing/abusing their children.
 
2012-10-12 06:26:30 PM

JonPace: The only issue I have with murder is the concept of "attempted murder". Why should somebody get a different sentence just because the killer was a bad aim or the person made a miraculous recoveru?


I agree.

"Your Honor, my client incorrectly estimated the amount of arsenic required to kill an adult...please give him a lesser sentence."
 
2012-10-12 06:27:11 PM
Er, bish. Although both could work.
 
2012-10-12 06:28:26 PM

special20: Check it out:
A white woman gets 19 years for killing her adopted kid.

Gosh, 99 years for being an idiotic, child kicking rage-queen doesn't seem to be a fair sentence in contrast to the above story. Is it because she's a Mexican in Texas?


0/10 just because you're an idiot
 
2012-10-12 06:33:40 PM
i.i.com.com

Yes, she looks sad - but this is right after she found out she got 99 years. She didn't find out until later that Friday is pizza day.
 
2012-10-12 06:35:18 PM

INeedAName: I hate to say it, but part of me wonders if the mom wasnt also found guilty of looking like an illegal while in Texas. The woman desrves prison, a lot if it. But 99 years is absolutely insane.


It is! She should be executed at the first possible oppurtunity!
 
2012-10-12 06:36:18 PM
Police say Escalona attacked two-year-old Jocelyn Cedillo because of potty training problems.

I use to work with a special needs/emotionally disturbed kid whose mom use to abuse when he had toileting issues. Needless to say this is unfortunately going to screw the daughter up for the rest of her life.


/obvious comment is obvious
 
2012-10-12 06:37:17 PM

cookiefleck: This is a local story.. Basically, the mom could've pleaded to get less time, but she wanted to "tell her side" and in doing so continued to lie through her teeth. So, she got 99 years.


She wanted the case to go to trial because she didn't accept the plea offered, a 45 year sentence. Case went to trial, found guilty and Judge gave her 99 year sentence.
 
2012-10-12 06:37:32 PM

JonPace: 0/10 just because you're an idiot


*your

/pet peeve
 
2012-10-12 06:39:30 PM
And yet a certain pedo only received 30-60.
 
GBB
2012-10-12 06:43:39 PM
She got 99 problems, and now her kid ain't one.
 
2012-10-12 06:44:14 PM

wantingout: ahhh, thats the cool thing about poor people who can't afford lawyers. They make LOTS of money for the shareholders in the for-profit prisons.


THIS
 
2012-10-12 06:44:41 PM
She's kind of hot, I wouldn't mind gluing her hands to a wall and pleasuring her with this sex toy.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-10-12 06:46:54 PM
JonPace: The only issue I have with murder is the concept of "attempted murder". Why should somebody get a different sentence just because the killer was a bad aim or the person made a miraculous recoveru?

I agree.

"Your Honor, my client incorrectly estimated the amount of arsenic required to kill an adult...please give him a lesser sentence."


Attempted murder, what is that? Do they give out a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?
 
2012-10-12 06:48:45 PM

MadAzza: slayer199: MadAzza: Manslaughter isn't murder.

Ah, but it is. Most of the time it's a murder 2 charge that's plea-bargained down to manslaughter. Bottom line is that someone was killed.

Murder, as a legal term and as you note in your plea-bargain example, is not manslaughter. Manslaughter isn't "murder lite."

Well, maybe it kind of is, but only in a colloquial sense, not a legal one.


The colloquial sense is the point -- a person CAN purposefully kill another person and end up serving only 7 years.

Also, why then can't this woman bargain it based on being temporarily insane or something.

Of course life sentence is fitting for what she did, but there are people more dangerous than her

sandi_fish: Why does it seem that people found guilty of this type of thing have 5 kids or more (at least multiple kids)? If kids piss you off this much don't freakin have them.


This always has amazed me -- the "slutty" and "party" girls who apparently were all worldly when in high school were also always the ones getting knocked up. And it wasn't like they didn't know about how it happens, or that they couldn't access contraceptives. My guess is it all stems from low self-esteem -- having babies makes them feel like they've got purpose (for the nicer girls) or makes them feel a sense of power (for the evil ones like this chick).
 
2012-10-12 06:48:59 PM
Like the skin on her daughters hands, I'm sure that this sentence will be reduced on apeel.
 
2012-10-12 06:50:36 PM

Why Would I Read the Article: JonPace: The only issue I have with murder is the concept of "attempted murder". Why should somebody get a different sentence just because the killer was a bad aim or the person made a miraculous recoveru?

I agree.

"Your Honor, my client incorrectly estimated the amount of arsenic required to kill an adult...please give him a lesser sentence."


Attempted murder, what is that? Do they give out a Nobel Prize for attempted chemistry?



Nobel prize? No.

Darwin Awards? Yes.
 
2012-10-12 06:51:43 PM
My two cents regarding the length of punishment.

She is broken, the courts know that. The prosecutor was asking for 45 years, she got 99..probably because she was stupid enough to open her mouth in court and show no remorse, but to only blame everybody else for her behavior.

She has 4 or 5 kids now, she's only 23! The article says she'll be eligible for parole in 30 years or so.

The courts know they can't legally have her sterilized...but.. putting her behind bars until she is too old to breed is the next best thing. In order to do guarantee she would not get out before menopause kicks in and her ovaries shut down, they had to give her 99 years.
 
2012-10-12 06:53:40 PM

SearchN: And yet a certain pedo only received 30-60.


Which, for him, is a life sentence.

As a mother, I have no problem with either sentence.

/she'll get her sentence reduced anyway, but hopefully will still be in prison for an obnoxiously long time
 
2012-10-12 06:55:05 PM
There is no way that this story can have a happy outcome. 99 years is either too much or too little depending on your point of view but she's proven that she can never be trusted around other humans ever again IMHO. Lock her up forever or put her to death for the good of society and be done with it, fine by me. It's better than letting her out after 5-10 years and hoping she's all better.
 
2012-10-12 06:56:25 PM

special20: JonPace: 0/10 just because you're an idiot

*your

/pet peeve


Wait, I remember this one... It's called a.... I forgot my Fark memes..... Chotzky? Rotsky?
 
2012-10-12 06:56:37 PM
www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2012-10-12 06:57:59 PM

CruJones: special20: JonPace: 0/10 just because you're an idiot

*your

/pet peeve

Wait, I remember this one... It's called a.... I forgot my Fark memes..... Chotzky? Rotsky?


rotsky'd in the boobies
 
2012-10-12 06:59:39 PM

Tigger: SnarfVader: Wow. Just wow. That's a life sentence. Horrendous as the crime may be, I'm not sure the punishment fits. You can murder somebody and not get as much time.

She put a child into a coma. How the fark is that NOT a life sentence?


I dont advocate the death penalty for most cases but If you beat a 2 yr old into a coma, and then glue them to a wall, I'd advocate a quick bullet to your brain.

Much like a rabid dog.
 
2012-10-12 07:04:35 PM
I know that beating a 2 year old is pretty abhorrent, but 99 years? What does that solve exactly? What is it with people wanting the justice system to act as way to get vicarious revenge on people who upset them? Wouldn't it better for this person was given the years of therapy they need so they can reenter society?

Is that too compassionate and thoughtful? Is that not the world you want to live in? A world where we've shed the false good/evil dichotomy and thoughtfully respond to troubled people with kindness and compassion? Am I off the mark here for not thirsting for blood every time I hear of a sick person doing something wrong?
 
2012-10-12 07:05:55 PM

Amos Quito: Like the skin on her daughters hands, I'm sure that this sentence will be reduced on apeel.


She did this to more than one kid?

Also: *snert*
 
2012-10-12 07:06:00 PM

KellyKellyKelly: SearchN: And yet a certain pedo only received 30-60.

Which, for him, is a life sentence.

As a mother, I have no problem with either sentence.

/she'll get her sentence reduced anyway, but hopefully will still be in prison for an obnoxiously long time


Yea I know, it probably is. I would still have liked to see the maximum sentence applied though. Both of them are worthless. I rarely wish ill will on people, but these 2 deserve it.

/Not a father with no plans on being one any time soon.
 
2012-10-12 07:08:07 PM
Since forced sterilization isn't legal, the judge did the next best thing and made sure she wouldn't still be of child-bearing age by the time she gets out.
Hey, with good behavior she could be out in 40 years. Then again how likely is her behavior ever going to change?
 
2012-10-12 07:09:40 PM
*imokaywiththiscartoon.jpg*
 
2012-10-12 07:11:27 PM

Amos Quito: Like the skin on her daughters hands, I'm sure that this sentence will be reduced on apeel.


Seriously?
 
2012-10-12 07:14:09 PM
Rot in Hell, C*NT.
 
2012-10-12 07:14:10 PM
You having jail problems I feel bad for you hon...you got 99 years and deserve each one.
 
2012-10-12 07:15:20 PM
In case anyone ever gets superglued (cyanoacrylate), acetone will dissolve that bond.
 
2012-10-12 07:15:27 PM

Linkster: Amos Quito: Like the skin on her daughters hands, I'm sure that this sentence will be reduced on apeel.

Seriously?


Well, Amos is a compassionate conservative.
 
2012-10-12 07:19:00 PM

SearchN: And yet a certain pedo only received 30-60.


Even sandusky didn't put them into a coma.
 
2012-10-12 07:19:34 PM

SnarfVader: Wow. Just wow. That's a life sentence. Horrendous as the crime may be, I'm not sure the punishment fits. You can murder somebody and not get as much time.


She beat a 2 year old into a coma, what exactly is an appropriate punishment, in your learned legal opinion, for a woman that would beat a 2 year old toddler into a coma?

rocinante721: My child just started to walk, so I'm slowly getting more sympathetic to batpoop-nuts parents


Let me tell you, If you're so farking stupid that you can't grasp the very basics of the physiology of potty training, turn your kid over to the state now. A kid can't be potty trained until the appropriate part of the spinal sheathe mylenates. It doesn't matter how much you beat them, how much you scream at them, or how much your ignorance screws them up for the rest of their lives, it's not going to happen until the neurology catches up. Please, for the sake of your child, put it into foster care now. I've potty trained 2 children and many, many adults and I have never gotten angry, only a sick ignorant fark would act so selfishly.
 
2012-10-12 07:20:22 PM

pedobearapproved: Ego edo infantia cattus: SnarfVader: Wow. Just wow. That's a life sentence. Horrendous as the crime may be, I'm not sure the punishment fits. You can murder somebody and not get as much time.

culpability X responsibility X depravity = sentencing.

Do you want to know more?

interesting...

but why not throw her in for 20 years, her kid will be old enough to have been teen pregnant and beating her own 2 year old by then. Plus bad mom's ovaries will be rotten and she won't have a child to abuse.


There are multiple reasons for the amount of time a person faces when sentenced in a criminal case, one of which is simply to remove them from society. It doesn't really matter that she wouldn't be able to hurt her child after 20 years. (supposedly) Shes proven that she is capable of horrific violence against a helpless innocent, and as far as the law is concerned, that is enough of a reason to detain her for quite some time.
 
2012-10-12 07:21:09 PM

Linkster: Amos Quito: Like the skin on her daughters hands, I'm sure that this sentence will be reduced on apeel.

Seriously?



Serious as a road rash.
 
2012-10-12 07:22:57 PM

Bender The Offender: SnarfVader: Wow. Just wow. That's a life sentence. Horrendous as the crime may be, I'm not sure the punishment fits. You can murder somebody and not get as much time.

She beat a 2 year old into a coma, what exactly is an appropriate punishment, in your learned legal opinion, for a woman that would beat a 2 year old toddler into a coma?

rocinante721: My child just started to walk, so I'm slowly getting more sympathetic to batpoop-nuts parents

Let me tell you, If you're so farking stupid that you can't grasp the very basics of the physiology of potty training, turn your kid over to the state now. A kid can't be potty trained until the appropriate part of the spinal sheathe mylenates. It doesn't matter how much you beat them, how much you scream at them, or how much your ignorance screws them up for the rest of their lives, it's not going to happen until the neurology catches up. Please, for the sake of your child, put it into foster care now. I've potty trained 2 children and many, many adults and I have never gotten angry, only a sick ignorant fark would act so selfishly.


All of this and so much more.
 
2012-10-12 07:25:52 PM

FraggleStickCar: I know that beating a 2 year old is pretty abhorrent, but 99 years? What does that solve exactly? What is it with people wanting the justice system to act as way to get vicarious revenge on people who upset them? Wouldn't it better for this person was given the years of therapy they need so they can reenter society?

Is that too compassionate and thoughtful? Is that not the world you want to live in? A world where we've shed the false good/evil dichotomy and thoughtfully respond to troubled people with kindness and compassion? Am I off the mark here for not thirsting for blood every time I hear of a sick person doing something wrong?


Well, here's your answer.
 
2012-10-12 07:28:09 PM
Two words: Parental License.

*)
 
2012-10-12 07:30:54 PM

rudemix: You having jail problems I feel bad for you hon...you got 99 years and deserve each one.


www.sohh.com


I was worried yall had forgot about me...
 
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