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2012-10-12 08:59:22 AM
The #1 worst made me chuckle.
 
2012-10-12 09:06:23 AM
farm3.static.flickr.com
 
2012-10-12 10:05:03 AM
I DO hope that was sarcasm, subby. Daleks ae NOT robots, as any DW fan knows-there is a living creature at the heart of the casing, which as simply created as armor.
 
2012-10-12 10:06:25 AM
Elevate! Elevate!
 
2012-10-12 10:10:45 AM
Inseminate! Inseminate!

i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-12 10:11:33 AM
Erection of the Daleks?
 
2012-10-12 10:13:58 AM
i.imgur.com
i.imgur.com 
 
2012-10-12 10:18:51 AM
There's Dalek porn? Why wasn't I informed?
 
2012-10-12 10:22:36 AM

baltimoreblonde: I DO hope that was sarcasm, subby. Daleks ae NOT robots, as any DW fan knows-there is a living creature at the heart of the casing, which as simply created as armor.


Also, Daleks CAN go up stairs.

Subby is clearly not a DW fan.

Wellon Dowd: Inseminate! Inseminate!

[i.imgur.com image 620x974]


I want to do more than inseminate...
 
2012-10-12 10:23:03 AM
I guess I'm a bigger Who fan the the author, I thought Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks was pretty good. I haven't seen Asylum of the Daleks yet so IDK about that.
 
2012-10-12 10:23:27 AM

stevetherobot: There's Dalek porn? Why wasn't I informed?


Paging Ghastly, Ghastly to the Dalek thread.
 
2012-10-12 10:24:02 AM
images.wikia.com
 
2012-10-12 10:24:41 AM
It's amazing that, sarcastically or not, people seem to not know that Daleks have been able to traverse stairs for quite some time, if not the very beginning(offscreen). In Rememberance of the Daleks we SEE one float up stairs, and as far back as Dalek Invasion of Earth it's implied they can navigate stairs as they were able to get to different levels of buildings that ONLY had stairwells.
 
2012-10-12 10:26:09 AM
List fails without "Doomsday". The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.

/This is not war. This is pest control.
 
2012-10-12 10:27:45 AM

wippit: The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.


Problem is that's the only thing good about that mind-numbing episode.
 
2012-10-12 10:28:42 AM

wippit: List fails without "Doomsday". The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.

/This is not war. This is pest control.


That slashie is without a doubt the best line uttered by any Dalek in any episode of DW.
 
2012-10-12 10:29:00 AM
Speaking of, why wasn't I told?!

http://www.character-online.com/products/Character-Building/Doctor-Wh o /Dalek-Army-Builder-Pack/
 
2012-10-12 10:32:07 AM

t3knomanser: wippit: The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.

Problem is that's the only thing good about that mind-numbing episode.


This and that.
 
2012-10-12 10:33:37 AM
stevetherobot
There's Dalek porn?


They already look like the result of a pepper mill banging a vibrator, what with all the knobs around the body and the rotating upper half.
 
2012-10-12 10:36:40 AM

t3knomanser: wippit: The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.

Problem is that's the only thing good about that mind-numbing episode.


It got rid of Rose and briefly introduced Donna, which is a net positive.
 
2012-10-12 10:37:11 AM

t3knomanser: wippit: The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.

Problem is that's the only thing good about that mind-numbing episode.


You are better at dying!
 
2012-10-12 10:42:24 AM
I disagree with AOTD: the Daleks seemed to be menacing actually for once in the new series. Notice The Doctor doesn't defeat them as much as run away while they're confused. No "WE FELL THROUGH TIME & SPACE YET AGAIN ONLY TO REAPPEAR AS DEADLY AND FOPPISH AS EVER" RTD nonsense this time.
 
2012-10-12 10:55:25 AM
You know, even if a Dalek couldn't climb stairs, I'd still say they were pretty damn scary. They're nigh impervious to conventional Earth weaponry, and so far as we know, they're basically immortal, or at least have a natural lifespan far longer than humans.

Their weaponry seems mostly effective on humans, but possible they could take down buildings and such if they really wanted to. Even if they couldn't, though, you've got hundreds, or perhaps thousands of merciless killing machines on the ground, invulnerable to weapons fire, living for hundreds or perhaps even thousands of years.

Sure, you can escape into a high rise or something for a while, but how long are you going to last there?
 
2012-10-12 11:29:22 AM

jayhawk88: You know, even if a Dalek couldn't climb stairs, I'd still say they were pretty damn scary. They're nigh impervious to conventional Earth weaponry, and so far as we know, they're basically immortal, or at least have a natural lifespan far longer than humans.

Their weaponry seems mostly effective on humans, but possible they could take down buildings and such if they really wanted to. Even if they couldn't, though, you've got hundreds, or perhaps thousands of merciless killing machines on the ground, invulnerable to weapons fire, living for hundreds or perhaps even thousands of years.

Sure, you can escape into a high rise or something for a while, but how long are you going to last there?


Isn't there an episode where someone runs up the stairs so they just blow up the house? I seem to remember that.
 
2012-10-12 11:30:44 AM
I disagree with AOTD being on the list. There were only two good episodes so far in Season 7 and AOTD and TATM were the only ones (the other ones being mostly shiat).

Also, the author got details of "Parting of the Ways" wrong. There's no 'final transmission from the doctor'. That was Doomsday.

/also, the show hits the reset button on anything whenever it's convenient for the story, but I still enjoy it. If this were Star Trek, they'd have incurred the wrath of the fans for breaking their own rules.
 
2012-10-12 11:39:44 AM
I'm glad to see that actually bothered to look at pre-2005 Who for this list. But it's a shame that almost all of Evil of the Daleks is lost to us, because from reading the novelization it's as good of a story as Genesis of the Daleks.
 
2012-10-12 11:47:35 AM
Speaking of, I'll leave this here: Dalek Second Empire
 
2012-10-12 12:00:03 PM
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.
 
2012-10-12 12:04:16 PM

Lurk sober post drunk: serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.


I'd say finish the first season. I was hooked after the first episode. But there was no hype for me, it was just recommended by a friend. that's what sucks about hype, you're almost always disappointed.
 
2012-10-12 12:39:11 PM
Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.


I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.
 
2012-10-12 12:48:00 PM

The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.


i also watched the first episode some time ago, and found it lacking. I haven't been watching much netflix lately but this advice has been duly noted. Thanks!
 
2012-10-12 12:52:38 PM

Lurk sober post drunk: serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.


I found the majority of the first few seasons a bit of a slog at times. But that was all necessary to set me up for later, so it's still well worth doing if you've got the time and patience. It does get better though.
 
2012-10-12 01:03:01 PM

baltimoreblonde: wippit: List fails without "Doomsday". The interactions between the Daleks and the Cybermen are priceless.

/This is not war. This is pest control.

That slashie is without a doubt the best line uttered by any Dalek in any episode of DW.


This! Who knew Daleks had such a great sense of humor!

/Even he didn't.
 
2012-10-12 01:09:23 PM
Trash cans on wheels with disco lights are terrifying.

/dr who sucks
 
2012-10-12 02:24:25 PM

The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.


Aw, I like the Slitheen family. Even the name of their home planet is fun to say: Raxacoricofallapatorius.

I just found the first series to be quite fun and was sad to see Eccelston go.
 
2012-10-12 02:37:33 PM

Wollffeey: The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.

Aw, I like the Slitheen family. Even the name of their home planet is fun to say: Raxacoricofallapatorius.

I just found the first series to be quite fun and was sad to see Eccelston go.


I really liked him too. I still like him better than Smith, and just slightly less than Tennant. I'm rewatching the series now and I forgot how fun he was.
 
2012-10-12 03:18:45 PM

maxpower007: Wollffeey: The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.

Aw, I like the Slitheen family. Even the name of their home planet is fun to say: Raxacoricofallapatorius.

I just found the first series to be quite fun and was sad to see Eccelston go.

I really liked him too. I still like him better than Smith, and just slightly less than Tennant. I'm rewatching the series now and I forgot how fun he was.


Smith is my favourite, mostly for the earlier stuff when he was like a gerbil on cocaine. I loved his unique energy, and he has some great quirky low-sfx episodes like "The Lodger".

I've been giving the earlier episodes another look since I bought the new series on Zune Marketplace to watch on my xbox (much cheaper than DVDs of the seasons). I like most episodes, except for the Daleks in Manhattan/Love & Monsters/Fear Her (all Season 3 episodes). I don't like any episodes that really involve Rose's mom, Jackie, queen of the chavs. Because in a show with time travel and science fictiony stuff like alien worlds, who gives a shiat about a woman who looks like she probably smells of boiled cabbage and failure?
 
2012-10-12 03:28:02 PM

Lurk sober post drunk: serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.


Like someone said earlier, the second half does improve quite a bit. Try to at least make it through the World War 2 two-parter. If that doesn't pull you in, its probably not for you.

The problem with your friend is that he's seen seven years worth of episodes and is convinced its awesome. Its hard to convey that enthusiasm to someone whose never seen it before. Yeah I'll admit the first few episodes were kinda weak, but that's normal for any new tv series. Fortunately like Star Trek TNG, which also sucked hard at first, there were legions of fans who knew how good the show could be and stuck with it til the showrunners were finally able to get their shiat together.
 
2012-10-12 03:40:45 PM

Wellon Dowd: Inseminate! Inseminate!

[i.imgur.com image 620x974]


I volunteer.
/I'm pretty and can cook.
 
2012-10-12 03:50:23 PM
Terribly off topic, but those of you who're all caught up on the current series might want to watch this.

Doctor Who:PS

Unless you're an Amy and Rory hater It'll probably remind you that you need to do some dusting.
 
2012-10-12 03:59:16 PM

MadSkillz: maxpower007: Wollffeey: The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.

Aw, I like the Slitheen family. Even the name of their home planet is fun to say: Raxacoricofallapatorius.

I just found the first series to be quite fun and was sad to see Eccelston go.

I really liked him too. I still like him better than Smith, and just slightly less than Tennant. I'm rewatching the series now and I forgot how fun he was.

Smith is my favourite, mostly for the earlier stuff when he was like a gerbil on cocaine. I loved his unique energy, and he has some great quirky low-sfx episodes like "The Lodger".

I've been giving the earlier episodes another look since I bought the new series on Zune Marketplace to watch on my xbox (much cheaper than DVDs of the seasons). I like most episodes, except for the Daleks in Manhattan/Love & Monsters/Fear Her (all Season 3 episodes). I don't like any episodes that really involve Rose's mom, Jackie, queen of the chavs. Because in a show with time travel and science fictiony stuff like alien worlds, who gives a shiat about a woman who looks like she probably smells of boiled cabbage and failure?


Id on't know what it is about Smith I don't like, but there's something. I don't hate him, he's just my least favorite. I haven't seen the new season and haven't rewatched the Smith episodes yet so it may change. I wasn't crazy about Tennant at first either...also I really liked the first two episodes you listed, and pretty much agree on the fear her episode. I think it was a somewhat good idea, just not executed well enough. And concerning rose's mom, I agree but I think her character serves the purpose of making it seem like a real earth when she's in those episodes. It's kind of like she brings the show back down to earth(maybe a little overdramaticaly) in the episodes she appears in.

I think the only episodes I really find bad are The Impossible Planet/Satan's pit and 42. There might be a couple more but those are the ones that stick out.
 
2012-10-12 03:59:55 PM
Old enough to know better: Terribly off topic, but those of you who're all caught up on the current series might want to watch this.

Doctor Who:PS

Unless you're an Amy and Rory hater It'll probably remind you that you need to do some dusting.


Wow. Just......wow.

And yeah.....it's dusty in here.
 
2012-10-12 04:10:33 PM
maxpower007:

42 was actually the first episode of Nu-Who that I watched. I was in Vegas, staying in my hotel room because the night before I had like 6 vodka redbulls and was SO sick I just couldn't go out during the early afternoon. It wasn't terrible - it was merely okay, but it's what got me watching the show.

The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit is not great and raises more questions, like "is that really the devil", but it's watchable. There's only a few episodes that for me are absolutely unwatchable, including "Fear Her".

/you have to remember, this is a family show, so it's just 'fun' and you just have to go with it. Even Moffat's show, with its foreshadowing and supposed arcs, is more of the same bullshiat. He's never delivered on any of his season finales really, either.

//I still marvel at how British people keep track of the next word they're going to say to get those connecting "r"s in when words end with a vowel and then begin with a vowel.
 
2012-10-12 04:11:12 PM

Wollffeey: The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.

Aw, I like the Slitheen family. Even the name of their home planet is fun to say: Raxacoricofallapatorius.

I just found the first series to be quite fun and was sad to see Eccelston go.


Meh, the episode where the last one was turned into egg just made me realize why Dr. Who had to be a British show. Don't get me wrong, I love the show, but the entire time I'm just thinking if this was the American Dr Who we'd have just shot the Slitheen in the back of the head and not had to deal with the rest of her crap.
 
2012-10-12 04:14:52 PM

Old enough to know better: Terribly off topic, but those of you who're all caught up on the current series might want to watch this.

Doctor Who:PS

Unless you're an Amy and Rory hater It'll probably remind you that you need to do some dusting.


Ah geez... friggin' dust...
 
2012-10-12 04:35:17 PM
Fail in Human Form
I love the show, but the entire time I'm just thinking if this was the American Dr Who we'd have just shot the Slitheen in the back of the head and not had to deal with the rest of her crap.

You must love "The Impossible Astronaut".

"Fellas...you think you can just shoot me?"
"THEY'RE AMERICANS!"
 
2012-10-12 04:50:16 PM

The Voice of Doom: Fail in Human Form
I love the show, but the entire time I'm just thinking if this was the American Dr Who we'd have just shot the Slitheen in the back of the head and not had to deal with the rest of her crap.

You must love "The Impossible Astronaut".

"Fellas...you think you can just shoot me?"
"THEY'RE AMERICANS!"


I laugh everytime I see that :-)
 
2012-10-12 05:42:55 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Trash cans on wheels with disco lights are terrifying.

/dr who sucks


i36.photobucket.com
 
2012-10-12 07:03:21 PM
Because of their popularity in both runs of the show, the Daleks have been trotted out repeatedly over the years.

I thought it was because the deal with the estate that owns the rights to the Daleks stipulates they have to be in at least one episode each season?
 
2012-10-12 07:07:05 PM

stevetherobot: There's Dalek porn? Why wasn't I informed?


www.ghostofaflea.com

/oblig
 
2012-10-12 08:08:19 PM
I liked that WWII where the British army Dalek offered the Doctor a cup of tea. Surreal.
 
2012-10-12 08:23:15 PM
I just watched the Loose Cannon reconstruction of THE DALEK'S MASTER PLAN, and am getting a kick out of this
article.
 
2012-10-12 09:04:18 PM

MadSkillz: maxpower007: Wollffeey: The Voice of Doom: Lurk sober post drunk
serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I didn't like the first few episodes either; I would probably skip the farting aliens and start with episode six.
Or in your case jump ahead to the two-parter "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances"; it's probably the best part of that season, so if you don't like that one...

It might also be worth jumping ahead to the Matt Smith seasons (e.g the first episode of season five and the first of season six) or give one of the Tenant episodes written by Steven Moffat a try to see if that style is more to your liking.

Aw, I like the Slitheen family. Even the name of their home planet is fun to say: Raxacoricofallapatorius.

I just found the first series to be quite fun and was sad to see Eccelston go.

I really liked him too. I still like him better than Smith, and just slightly less than Tennant. I'm rewatching the series now and I forgot how fun he was.

Smith is my favourite, mostly for the earlier stuff when he was like a gerbil on cocaine. I loved his unique energy, and he has some great quirky low-sfx episodes like "The Lodger".

I've been giving the earlier episodes another look since I bought the new series on Zune Marketplace to watch on my xbox (much cheaper than DVDs of the seasons). I like most episodes, except for the Daleks in Manhattan/Love & Monsters/Fear Her (all Season 3 episodes). I don't like any episodes that really involve Rose's mom, Jackie, queen of the chavs. Because in a show with time travel and science fictiony stuff like alien worlds, who gives a shiat about a woman who looks like she probably smells of boiled cabbage and failure?


I just watched the first two episodes of the new season and I think I remember what I don't like about Smith. It's not really him or his fault. He just lets everyone talk down on him, he doesn't have the authoritative presence that I expect the Doctor to have. I know that probably has more to do with the writing, but he doesn't seem as quick witted or have the dominance the doctor had for the first 4 seasons. Now I've never seen the original Doctor Whos so maybe he's not supposed to be that way. But Smith's Doctor, most of the time if I remember correctly, is like a doormat. But there are a lot of good episodes with Smith, but in my opinion it has more to do with the obviously increased budget and better supporting cast.
 
2012-10-12 09:41:30 PM
farm8.staticflickr.com
 
2012-10-12 09:57:14 PM

DjangoStonereaver: I just watched the Loose Cannon reconstruction of THE DALEK'S MASTER PLAN, and am getting a kick out of this article.


Now THAT is a Doctor Who fan. Forget the 2005 series, if you can't watch sideshow reconstructions of episodes from 1965, you might as well give up and go watch Start Trek Voyager again.

/Loose Cannon rules
//Keep Circulating the Tapes
 
2012-10-12 10:56:08 PM
Glad to see Genesis of the Daleks is good #1. Easily one of the best stories of the whole dang series.
 
2012-10-13 01:48:29 AM

Blackbrain: DjangoStonereaver: I just watched the Loose Cannon reconstruction of THE DALEK'S MASTER PLAN, and am getting a kick out of this article.

Now THAT is a Doctor Who fan. Forget the 2005 series, if you can't watch sideshow reconstructions of episodes from 1965, you might as well give up and go watch Start Trek Voyager again.

/Loose Cannon rules
//Keep Circulating the Tapes


Damn straight.

And honestly, I've drifted away from Nu-Who. While the new series has its addictive moments, it comes off as being written by people who really don't seem to remember what the Doctor really is. In the original series, he's a simple traveller/middler who gets involved for the sheer hell of it because he grew up in a very turgid and boring place.

In the new series, he's some kind of intergalactic superstar/injured dove who seeks the attention of various humans. He's no longer the adventurous loner, he's now some pathetic immortal who will never be happy. What? There were symptoms of this in the original series, but the new series takes them to lengths that are very unDoctorish. And I feel this is to showcase characters that really aren't as interesting because, deep down, the writers of this show are bored with the Doctor. They don't explore any facets, he's always the same: time traveling alien immortal who changes his face every so often, but nothing else. Moffat does some things differently (and addresses some of these issues), but at its heart I get the feeling I'm not watching Doctor Who, but some fan fiction that stars the Doctor but only on the most superficial level. It's a show about some lucky person 'just like you' who got the luck to travel in space and time and...oh, yes, there's the Doctor, but we already know about him. It just comes off as cheap and hollow when, in reality, they could do some more amazing things with the Doctor but don't feel like exercising that right.
 
2012-10-13 02:07:10 AM
If you want old style Doctor Who, look no farther than the Big Finish audio adventures. All the surviving actors are doing them now, and they're actually pretty damn good.
 
2012-10-13 02:09:00 AM

Guntram Shatterhand: Blackbrain: DjangoStonereaver: I just watched the Loose Cannon reconstruction of THE DALEK'S MASTER PLAN, and am getting a kick out of this article.

Now THAT is a Doctor Who fan. Forget the 2005 series, if you can't watch sideshow reconstructions of episodes from 1965, you might as well give up and go watch Start Trek Voyager again.

/Loose Cannon rules
//Keep Circulating the Tapes

Damn straight.

And honestly, I've drifted away from Nu-Who. While the new series has its addictive moments, it comes off as being written by people who really don't seem to remember what the Doctor really is. In the original series, he's a simple traveller/middler who gets involved for the sheer hell of it because he grew up in a very turgid and boring place.

In the new series, he's some kind of intergalactic superstar/injured dove who seeks the attention of various humans. He's no longer the adventurous loner, he's now some pathetic immortal who will never be happy. What? There were symptoms of this in the original series, but the new series takes them to lengths that are very unDoctorish. And I feel this is to showcase characters that really aren't as interesting because, deep down, the writers of this show are bored with the Doctor. They don't explore any facets, he's always the same: time traveling alien immortal who changes his face every so often, but nothing else. Moffat does some things differently (and addresses some of these issues), but at its heart I get the feeling I'm not watching Doctor Who, but some fan fiction that stars the Doctor but only on the most superficial level. It's a show about some lucky person 'just like you' who got the luck to travel in space and time and...oh, yes, there's the Doctor, but we already know about him. It just comes off as cheap and hollow when, in reality, they could do some more amazing things with the Doctor but don't feel like exercising that right.


I haven't seen the old Doctor Whos but was Gallifrey destroyed before the entire series started or in between the old and new series, or some other time?
 
2012-10-13 02:45:28 AM

maxpower007: I haven't seen the old Doctor Whos but was Gallifrey destroyed before the entire series started or in between the old and new series, or some other time?


In between. In the original series they visited Gallifrey many times. The original run was cancelled in 1989, Fox made a really crappy Doctor Who movie in 1996 and then the series was revived in 2005 apparently taking place right after he regenerated (from the time war I assume). They've never been really specific about what happened and when. If you want to see the 8th Doctor you have to watch the movie though, as bad as it is (the actor playing the Doctor was actually pretty good though).
 
2012-10-13 03:04:10 AM

Lurk sober post drunk: serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.


I've been rewatching the first season of the new series sporadically. Those episodes have not aged well. Most of them look really cheap now and the incidental music is godawful. The show does get better with the second season, I think there was a lot more money to work with.
 
2012-10-13 03:58:04 AM

Smashed Hat: Lurk sober post drunk: serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I've been rewatching the first season of the new series sporadically. Those episodes have not aged well. Most of them look really cheap now and the incidental music is godawful. The show does get better with the second season, I think there was a lot more money to work with.


I agree. Not sure with what. But I'll agree. Just to be agreeable. I do that sometimes. Agree with people. Just to make them mad. To watch their skin boil. Then walk away like nothing happened. Who?
 
2012-10-13 04:27:29 AM

Mitch Mitchell:

I agree. Not sure with what. But I'll agree. Just to be agreeable. I do that sometimes. Agree with people. Just to make them mad. To watch their skin boil. Then walk away like nothing happened. Who?


I'm agreeable now. Agreeing is cool.
 
2012-10-13 11:43:45 AM

Smashed Hat: Lurk sober post drunk: serious question for dr who fans:
i'm four episodes into the 2005 reboot. so far...i'm not really into it. is that enough to get a feel for it, or should i stick with it a bit longer? i was excited about it because of the ridiculous hype, but...i dunno.

I've been rewatching the first season of the new series sporadically. Those episodes have not aged well. Most of them look really cheap now and the incidental music is godawful. The show does get better with the second season, I think there was a lot more money to work with.


I try not to get caught up on graphics of shows. I had an ex girlfriend who refused to watch certain movies and tv shows just because the graphics looked cheap. I always ignored that aspect and used my imagination. I know some of the graphics look pretty cheap, like when Mickey gets his hands caught on that garbage can. The graphics might not hold up but most of those episodes, IMO, are pretty good. And that's more important to me than graphics/special effects.
 
2012-10-13 12:20:46 PM
i.imgur.com

Looks like a stripper. Even has the thousand-yard, dead-inside stare of the soulless.
 
2012-10-13 05:29:33 PM

Old enough to know better: If you want old style Doctor Who, look no farther than the Big Finish audio adventures. All the surviving actors are doing them now, and they're actually pretty damn good.


I love the ones with the 8th Doctor. He's rather droll and sarcastic.
 
2012-10-13 07:40:38 PM

Skyfrog: Fox made a really crappy Doctor Who movie in 1996 and then the series was revived in 2005 apparently taking place right after he regenerated (from the time war I assume). They've never been really specific about what happened and when. If you want to see the 8th Doctor you have to watch the movie though, as bad as it is (the actor playing the Doctor was actually pretty good though).



The movie did have some artistic innovations that remained when the series restarted in 2005. The general look and scale of the TARDIS' interior and its high ceilings represented a substantial change from 1963-1989 and set the tone for both the 2005 and 2010 interiors. The opening credit sequence abandoned the electronic renderings of the theme song in favour of a full orchestration, and presented the actors' names instead of the Doctor's face; indeed, even the names' animation is comparable (twisting as they fly forward, then pausing to be read, then twisting as they fly below the "camera")
 
2012-10-13 10:30:51 PM
Moffat's writing is awesome. Matt Smith is definitely my favorite Doctor. Though, I'm a little disappointed in this new season. Hopefully now that they have completed the whole Rory/Amy arc, they can move on to some new stuff. I didn't like the latest episode at all, but it is what it is.
 
2012-10-14 01:43:58 PM

ArcadianRefugee: [i.imgur.com image 618x446]

Looks like a stripper. Even has the thousand-yard, dead-inside stare of the soulless.


I'm good with that:

i1.mirror.co.uk

She can cook, too.
 
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