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(Atlanta Journal Constitution)   The EU wins Nobel Peace Prize. No word on which country will get to use the prize money to pay off debt   (ajc.com ) divider line
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2012-10-12 09:46:18 AM  
Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.
 
2012-10-12 09:50:21 AM  
Yeah, the EU is undergoing a financial crisis. Guess what, so had the United States. Both will emerge to see better days. And yes, the EU has been a huge driving force for peace, stability, and rights in Europe. Countries jump through GOOD hoops regarding rule of law and human rights to be admitted to the EU.
 
2012-10-12 10:10:08 AM  
Great. My boyfriend is a member of a group that just won the Nobel Peace Prize? Crap. His ego is never going to fit through a doorway again.
 
2012-10-12 10:12:05 AM  
Of course they awarded it to the EU this year. Nobel Prizes can't be awarded posthumously.
 
2012-10-12 10:43:33 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.


I'd just like that 24.8 TRILLION dollars the farkwits owe us for World War II.

Scandinavia AND FRANCE! YES, THE BROKE-ASS CAPITOL OF THE WORLD! paid us back; why the fark haven't the rest of them?
 
2012-10-12 10:44:10 AM  
Well I got my raincoat. I'm ready for the Category 5 shiathurricane of rage and conspiracy theories.
 
2012-10-12 10:46:06 AM  
Who gets to keep the medal when Greece, Spain and Italy take down the EU?
 
2012-10-12 10:48:29 AM  
at first i thought this was the stupidest thing i'd ever heard.

upon reflection, there hasn't been a european war (except of kosovo, which was more of a dickhead causing a local skirmish) in nearly 70 years. thats a big deal, historically.

that being said, i do hope Britain tells them all to fark off. Germany is taking over europe again, but this time with straight cash homey.
 
2012-10-12 10:48:30 AM  
I would say that the Nobel Peace Prize has jumped the shark, but it did that long ago.
 
2012-10-12 10:48:49 AM  
This is about as "roll your eyes" dumb as the Time Person of the Year 2006. (Hint: YOU) Way to make a choice there Nobel Peace Prize commitee.
 
2012-10-12 10:48:56 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.


Sure, but why not award the NPP to the people who were responsible for the Maastricht Treaty? Awarding the prize to a trade/monetary union is even sillier than awarding it to a President who hasn't had a chance to actually do anything yet. It's obviously, nakedly political.
 
2012-10-12 10:49:32 AM  
I've know a way to decide!

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2012-10-12 10:49:38 AM  

Jedekai: Scandinavia AND FRANCE! YES, THE BROKE-ASS CAPITOL OF THE WORLD! paid us back; why the fark haven't the rest of them?


I thought the UK did too.
 
2012-10-12 10:49:45 AM  
In what way does is the Nobel Peace Prize even relevant?
 
2012-10-12 10:50:27 AM  
The only obvious solution is for them all to go to war. Winner gets the money.
 
2012-10-12 10:50:54 AM  

L.D. Ablo: Who gets to keep the medal when Greece, Spain and Italy take down the EU?


The Eurozone is part of the EU, but it's not one in the same.

The Eurozone could go away, and the EU would still exist. Or more likely, some countries could leave the Eurozone and the other, stronger countries could then move even closer. And the EU and the Eurozone would still exist.
 
2012-10-12 10:51:34 AM  

Frank N Stein: In what way does is the Nobel Peace Prize even relevant?


I think they just pick anyone unlikely just for media attention and now and then award someone legitimate so they can keep the heat off.
 
2012-10-12 10:52:38 AM  
I'd say there was nobody less deserving but Al Gore, Yassar Arafat, and Barack Obama all spring to mind.

What's funny is how few people really understand why the EU is failing.
 
2012-10-12 10:53:34 AM  

Frank N Stein: In what way does is the Nobel Peace Prize even relevant?


The latest trend has been to give it to war criminals so now we know who the current evil bastards are
 
2012-10-12 10:53:47 AM  
Give it to the person most responsible for the creation of the EU. Making it a nebulous group award is just silly.

I predict next years winner will be condoms. May as well since they help people get together.
 
2012-10-12 10:54:29 AM  

indylaw: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.

Sure, but why not award the NPP to the people who were responsible for the Maastricht Treaty? Awarding the prize to a trade/monetary union is even sillier than awarding it to a President who hasn't had a chance to actually do anything yet. It's obviously, nakedly political.


so two years with one party rule wasn't a good chance? don't confuse ineffective with unable.
 
2012-10-12 10:55:15 AM  
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2012-10-12 10:55:15 AM  
Is this the same prize they gave to Obama and Yasser Arafat?
There are other controversial people who have been given it.

When you do that over and over again, you eradicate the idea of the thing.

sorry, but due to this
the prize you just got represents you as gyps and pikeys

...congratulations?
 
2012-10-12 10:55:35 AM  
I didn't start any wars this year. Why wasn't I in the running?
 
2012-10-12 10:57:42 AM  

SweetSaws: I didn't start any wars this year. Why wasn't I in the running?


i tolerate my in-laws. I deserve some kind of medal for that.
 
2012-10-12 10:58:00 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.


So not being in a war is deserving of a Peace award. Setting the bar kind of low, aren't you?
 
2012-10-12 10:58:33 AM  
Do they have to give out a prize every year? Because this seems to be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
 
2012-10-12 11:00:22 AM  

indylaw: Sure, but why not award the NPP to the people who were responsible for the Maastricht Treaty? Awarding the prize to a trade/monetary union is even sillier than awarding it to a President who hasn't had a chance to actually do anything yet. It's obviously, nakedly political.


Because it was the Treaty of Rome which set up the European Union, not the Maastricht treaty. As that was signed in 1958, it's a reasonable assumption that most of the original signatories are dead by now.

It's not the first time that the Peace prize has been awarded to a group rather than to a person (The Institute of International law won it in 1904, the Permanent International Peace bureau in 1910, the ICRC in 1917 & 1944, as well as others) and, for all its many and varied faults, the EU has been remarkably successful at promoting peace.
 
2012-10-12 11:00:25 AM  

randomjsa: I'd say there was nobody less deserving but Al Gore, Yassar Arafat, and Barack Obama all spring to mind.

What's funny is how few people really understand why the EU is failing.


Well, I would say their biggest problem is that they are trying to function off of the equivalent of the the US Articles of Confederation, and even our Founders over 200 years ago figured out what a bad idea that was.

But do you have any concept of the history of Europe? Looking at European history and then comparing it to the last 60 years of Europe make it very, very clear that the EU has been one of the greatest experiments in human history.

Europe is at peace. It's economy is larger than that of the US. It too has experienced the Great Recession, but it too will come out of it. Even with their current problems, their currency is worth more than the US currency. They have no real threats to their territory. Most of its people live in First World standards. If you ever actually visit it, the ideological concept of a socialist hellhole quickly becomes a pathetic joke.

It's not perfect just as the US is not perfect, but it is far better off than the vast majority of the world.
 
2012-10-12 11:01:27 AM  

Biness: in nearly 70 years. thats a big deal, historically.


Wow, that EU now has a time machine to prevent wars from happening before it was even started. Nobel prize in physics next
 
2012-10-12 11:02:25 AM  
They figured now might be the last chance.
 
2012-10-12 11:02:35 AM  
Europe -- 17 straight years without a genocide! Yippee!!
 
2012-10-12 11:02:45 AM  

LL316: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.

So not being in a war is deserving of a Peace award. Setting the bar kind of low, aren't you?


Hey, it's better than the alternative.
 
2012-10-12 11:04:29 AM  
Does anyone know what the flags at the European Commission headquarters in Brussels look like?
 
2012-10-12 11:05:02 AM  
This will be like the Madden curse. War will soon break out on the European continent again.

/economic strife is usually a precursor to war.
 
2012-10-12 11:05:19 AM  
It's a misunderstanding; they actually received the Nobel Pizza Prize.
 
2012-10-12 11:05:21 AM  

Pantubo: Europe -- 17 straight years without a genocide! Yippee!!


And those countries were part of the EU? No. What is one of the driving forces for those countries to clean up their acts and turn people over to the Hague for war crimes committed during that time? Desire for EU membership and meeting EU requirements for joining.
 
2012-10-12 11:05:50 AM  
When do they announce the winner of the Nobel War Prize?
 
2012-10-12 11:08:29 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.


Ya, because France and Germany were certainly headed for war...

Jesus Christ, can you post something more stupid?
 
2012-10-12 11:11:35 AM  

WorldCitizen:

And those countries were part of the EU? No. What is one of the driving forces for those countries to clean up their acts and turn people over to the Hague for war crimes committed during that time? Desire for EU membership and meeting EU requirements for joining.


Dude, you're not doing it right. As an American Farker discussing anything vaguely European, your duty is to be ignorant, throw around baseless stereotypes, and claim until you're blue in the face that the US is better in every conceivable manner.

Buck up your act buddy!
 
2012-10-12 11:13:07 AM  
"Norwegian prize jury"

What's going on here? (Norway not EU member)
 
2012-10-12 11:13:38 AM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7378109/79966681#c79966681" target="_blank">DammitIForgotMyLogin</a>:</b> <i>Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.</i>

I'd have thought it was the threat of rampaging communist and nuclear war that pacified Europe... But that's me.

/nations only want peace when confronted with a war they think they can't win.
 
2012-10-12 11:14:03 AM  

Thunderpipes: Ya, because France and Germany were certainly headed for war...


Yeah, I mean it's not like there's a long history of Franco-German conflict or anything.

Jesus Christ, can you post something more stupid?

I could try, but you seem to have cornered that particular niche.
 
2012-10-12 11:16:48 AM  

Biness: indylaw: DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.

Sure, but why not award the NPP to the people who were responsible for the Maastricht Treaty? Awarding the prize to a trade/monetary union is even sillier than awarding it to a President who hasn't had a chance to actually do anything yet. It's obviously, nakedly political.

so two years with one party rule wasn't a good chance? don't confuse ineffective with unable.


What are you talking about? Obama received the peace prize after only 8 1/2 months in office.

Go be stupid somewhere else.
 
2012-10-12 11:17:56 AM  

DammitIForgotMyLogin: Before the trolls get here, it's worth reminding people that the EU was originally founded with the intent of preventing the European nations (particularly France and Germany) from starting their fourth major war in under a century. However much it might have screwed up anything else it's done since, it has been spectacularly successful at that goal.

If you don't think that qualifies as "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.", then let me be the first to call you an idiot.


This is true, but personally I would prefer to see an individual win it. You don't see the Nobel in medicine going to Pfizer and what not. We have so many people doing so much work to promote peace on their own. It casts the spotlight on their cause, gives them some money to use for their cause (or to buy a car, whatever, they deserved it).

This decision reeks of too much aquavit and pickled herring the night before the decision, and needing a quick decision so they could go puke.
 
2012-10-12 11:18:07 AM  
It's like a parody of itself at this point.

I expect next year's prize to be given to the former CEO of Solyndra.
 
2012-10-12 11:18:36 AM  

footshot: WorldCitizen:

And those countries were part of the EU? No. What is one of the driving forces for those countries to clean up their acts and turn people over to the Hague for war crimes committed during that time? Desire for EU membership and meeting EU requirements for joining.

Dude, you're not doing it right. As an American Farker discussing anything vaguely European, your duty is to be ignorant, throw around baseless stereotypes, and claim until you're blue in the face that the US is better in every conceivable manner.

Buck up your act buddy!



USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!USA!!

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2012-10-12 11:19:37 AM  
I was in Madrid the day of the riots. It was not a peaceful place that night.
 
2012-10-12 11:20:30 AM  

SevenizGud: It's like a parody of itself at this point.

I expect next year's prize to be given to the former CEO of Solyndra.


I think there might be another parody of itself going on here, but you probably wouldn't recognize it.
 
2012-10-12 11:21:08 AM  

WorldCitizen: They have no real threats to their territory.


Uh... you know how they got to be that way, right?
 
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