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2012-10-12 03:04:04 PM
The dumbest f*cking morons are always the loudest.

"Empty vessels make the most noise", the Irish nuns in my elementary school used to say.

///Thank you Canuckia; first you give us Stan Rogers and now this ? ! You guys are alright.
 
2012-10-12 03:06:23 PM

indarwinsshadow: Let me say this for most of Canada. F*ck Terry Jones. F*ck him and his ideology. Stay the f*ck out of my country you racist piece of sh*t.

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Not a rant. The man is scum. He's just as bad as the nut bag Taliban.


Don't get me wrong...he's a pile of shiat...but what's he done that's racist?
 
2012-10-12 03:06:26 PM
Bring it on biatch! You have absolutely zero rights to enter our country.

/we've got plenty of great muslims living here ... we don't need your hate speech.
 
2012-10-12 03:07:46 PM
FTA : The German Evangelical Alliance said it released Jones from church leadership in 2008 due to his indefensible theological statements and his craving for attention.

Howsabout we stop giving him the attention he craves?
 
2012-10-12 03:08:00 PM

here to help: It must be nice having everything so simple.


You mean like saying that anyone who disagrees with you doesn't have a soul?
 
2012-10-12 03:10:36 PM

Resolute: Wait, this moron is going to "consider legal options"? Uhh, yeah, that'll go over well. Sovereign nations have the right to deny entry to non-citizens. But at least he and Fred Phelps can cry in their beers together over how Canada doesn't like to let bigots into her territory to preach hatred.


Yeah, I'm waiting to see just HOW much the "considering of legal options" is going to go over like a lead zeppelin (and NOT the awesome one with Robert Plant and Jimmy Page, either). :D

For starters, it seems that Terry Jones is blissfully unaware that (as The Onion so thoughtfully put it) Canada Is its Own Nation With Its Own Laws. Its equivalent of the Constitution--the Charter of Rights and Freedoms--explicitly states it can restrict the freedom of speech in cases where it's likely to cause massive public disorder (like, oh, Terry Jones' stunts have done in past).

In addition, Canada can refuse entry to people with convictions in their records, and can also refuse admittance if you're found to be a major promoter of hate speech--Terry Jones' church is actually listed as a hate group by the SPLC, which Canada can use to deny admittance (and there is court precedent for not only denying hatemongers entry but expelling them from the country).

I think Terry Jones is about to discover just how much Canada is its own nation and that going to a US court is likely to be ineffective (we know Canada isn't going to let him in, and good on them for that).

If Canada won't let you in, pretty much (just like in the US) the only avenue of appeal would be writing to Canada's equivalent of BICE (Citizenship and Immigration Canada) and attempting to have a document filed asking Canada to basically allow him to be admitted despite the arrests (which is a PITA to get); as it is, he's actually quite unlikely to get it, seeing as he has a history of promoting hate speech against MANY protected groups in Canada (not just minority religions, but hilarity WILL ensue when he finds out LGBT people are a protected class under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms--to the point that the Canadian equivalent of the Supreme Court ruled that provinces cannot legally bar gay marriage (yes, they've had their equivalent of Loving vs Virginia with same-sex marriage) and thus directing a lot of "gay honeymoon" tourism traffic towards Toronto and the Niagara region).

I would not be shocked if CIC ends up giving ol' Terry a Biden-esque smackdown, in fact :D
 
2012-10-12 03:12:01 PM

AliceBToklasLives: denied entry because they had a 2011 arrest record

Yep - Canada's been known to deny entry to folks with DIU records.


CSB time - During my early 20's, some friends and I decided to go to Windsor. We got randomly checked at the tunnel and for some reason 1 of my idiot friends thought he could hide some weed in his socks. They obviously found it and for that we had to strip and grab our ankles. Anyway, the point of the story is this - I had an open bottle of some tequila mixture and as we were set to leave, the cop said we could either dump it out and continue on into Windsor or keep it and head back to the MI. I asked if we could each take a shot and still go in. She agreed. The driver got to take some down as well. This was obviously before drinking and driving killed at a 100% success rate.
 
2012-10-12 03:12:24 PM
While I find all religions equally misinformed I find people like Terry Jones and the Westboro people to be 10 times worse than the rest of the world that just wants to live according to their beliefs.

Jones and Phelps need to DIAF. (Pat Robertson too)
 
2012-10-12 03:12:49 PM
I was denied entry into Canada because they found some loose assault rifle rounds under the seat of my truck. Then they turned the truck inside out looking for the rifle and they couldn't find it so they sent me back to the US border station with a letter that said "Permission to Leave Canada". They also got pissed when I demanded my rounds back, which they gave me in a border patrol evidence bag. I hate you Canada, go die in a fire.
 
2012-10-12 03:14:07 PM

Son of Thunder: here to help: It must be nice having everything so simple.

You mean like saying that anyone who disagrees with you doesn't have a soul?


Isn't that what pretty much the entire country says during an election year? (In between election years as well)
 
2012-10-12 03:15:19 PM

here to help: Typical Conservative. Someone points out serious issues and you say "Leave". Someone calls you on your arrogance and you dismiss them as irrelevant.

It must be nice having everything so simple. Just remember you and your fellow Harperbots only have a couple years left. Then the tide will change.


What the hell are you talking about?
 
2012-10-12 03:15:26 PM

Son of Thunder: here to help: It must be nice having everything so simple.

You mean like saying that anyone who disagrees with you doesn't have a soul?


There are a lot of people I disagree with and still respect their opinion. I'm not the one who shut down the discussion with glib statements that had no substance. I consider myself a fiscal conservative and a social liberal (notice no capitalization as the parties who bear those monikers don't necessarily represent the true spirit of those words). What burns me up is for some retarded reason we can't have politicians who embrace both ideals and the people who back the ones we do have are turning more and more to the US way of turning national policy into a bloodsport.
 
2012-10-12 03:17:43 PM

Handsome B. Wonderful: What the hell are you talking about?


I'm saying if he keeps up the heavy handed bullsh*t he'll get voted out. I don't think I was being cryptic with that statement.
 
2012-10-12 03:18:14 PM

superfudge73: I was denied entry into Canada because they found some loose assault rifle rounds under the seat of my truck. Then they turned the truck inside out looking for the rifle and they couldn't find it so they sent me back to the US border station with a letter that said "Permission to Leave Canada". They also got pissed when I demanded my rounds back, which they gave me in a border patrol evidence bag. I hate you Canada, go die in a fire.


Ammunition has to be transported in a secure container separate from the weapon (which also needs to be secured).
 
2012-10-12 03:19:00 PM
The German Evangelical Alliance said it released Jones from church leadership in 2008 due to his indefensible theological statements and his craving for attention.

Wow, you must have taken attention whoring to the nth degree if you get kicked the attention whores of Christianity, the Evangelicals.
 
2012-10-12 03:20:36 PM

SquiggsIN: While I find all religions equally misinformed I find people like Terry Jones and the Westboro people to be 10 times worse than the rest of the world that just wants to live according to their beliefs.

Jones and Phelps need to DIAF. (Pat Robertson too)


A pox on you! Phelps and his clan, being a warren of skilled lawyers, have a deep understanding of the law, its protections and limitations. They would never be caught bemoaning Canada enforcing valid and sovereign immigration law. Besides them not being legally ignorant like Terry Jones, it might cut into their tort-based revenue stream.

Beyond that, yes the derp factor of allowing selected, bronze-age passages to completely run your life is a beyond-the-pale failure at life.
 
2012-10-12 03:21:25 PM
ThrobblefootSpectre Canada has the right to deny entry to whoever they want. So does the U.S.

We don't really deny entry to anyone, we just make them walk from Mexico
 
2012-10-12 03:22:23 PM
well played Canada but now you see we get to make you keep Justin Bieber.
 
2012-10-12 03:28:17 PM

here to help: Handsome B. Wonderful: What the hell are you talking about?

I'm saying if he keeps up the heavy handed bullsh*t he'll get voted out. I don't think I was being cryptic with that statement.


Huh ... I was under the impression that Harper has done pretty well during these worldwide tough times. I'm not a fan of his but I really haven't heard of any real rage against the Conservative party in years.

Add to this the implosion of the Liberals and the fact that the NDP, Green or any of the other parties are not really candidates to ever get elected into office, it seems to me Harper's party is in pretty good shape.

Sure there are a few years to go. The Liberals are rebuilding and could gain momentum. And, of course, Harper and Co. could make some big mistakes and change everything. But if there was an election tomorrow I think it would be a cake walk for Harper.

/trying to be completely non-partisan there ... because I don't really love or hate any of them. (my perfect party would take policies from each of the current parties)
 
2012-10-12 03:29:30 PM

factoryconnection:
A pox on you! Phelps and his clan, being a warren of skilled lawyers, have a deep understanding of the law, its protections and limitations. .


I thought it was a "hyena of lawyers" - like a "murder of crows".
 
2012-10-12 03:30:35 PM

factoryconnection: A pox on you! Phelps and his clan, being a warren of skilled lawyers, have a deep understanding of the law, its protections and limitations. They would never be caught bemoaning Canada enforcing valid and sovereign immigration law. Besides them not being legally ignorant like Terry Jones, it might cut into their tort-based revenue stream.

Beyond that, yes the derp factor of allowing selected, bronze-age passages to completely run your life is a beyond-the-pale failure at life.


I don't recall if they bemoaned it ... but they've already been rejected entry to Canada:

Link
 
2012-10-12 03:39:49 PM

Farking Canuck: superfudge73: I was denied entry into Canada because they found some loose assault rifle rounds under the seat of my truck. Then they turned the truck inside out looking for the rifle and they couldn't find it so they sent me back to the US border station with a letter that said "Permission to Leave Canada". They also got pissed when I demanded my rounds back, which they gave me in a border patrol evidence bag. I hate you Canada, go die in a fire.

Ammunition has to be transported in a secure container separate from the weapon (which also needs to be secured).


It's a few rounds, what's the worst that can happen, eh?

Besides, a few loose rifle rounds aren't nearly as deadly as poutine farts set aflame. That'll clear out the Montreal Stock Exchange.
 
2012-10-12 03:40:58 PM

demaL-demaL-yeH: I thought it was a "hyena of lawyers" - like a "murder of crows".


I picked warren among the many different names for groups of animals because it sounded the worst but now I remember that it means a rabbit den. Coincidentally enough, a group of Hyenas is a "clan." "Cackle" is also acceptable.

Farking Canuck: I don't recall if they bemoaned it ... but they've already been rejected entry to Canada:


I was being snarky, but that is a good find. They promised to sneak in instead of whining; I told you they were smarter than Terry Jones!
 
2012-10-12 03:47:44 PM

here to help: I'm sure The Sun sympathized with this d-bag. Canada is swinging hard right and not the friendly Canucker kind of right... the ultra derpy hateful kind.

The feds announced recently they were cutting off all funding for non Christian prison chaplains. The chick who is supposed to be overseeing women's issues voted to re-open the debate on when life begins. A new mosque in PEI has been getting threats. Our prison industrial complex is kicking into high gear. The Conservative government is breaking, bending and rewriting election rules in their favor. Environmental laws are being eroded to benefit big oil. Etc, etc...

And the citizens are lapping it up. If you read the comments on certain newspaper websites and letters to the editor in print publications the blatant racism, cop fellating and attacks on the underprivileged would make a freeper blush.

It's getting scary in Canuckerland.


Hey, some of us are aware of this and are actively resisting.
 
2012-10-12 03:48:09 PM
I'm just curious.

This guy is Anti-Muslim, so when people either here or around the world act as bad or worse than him, why are they not Anti-Christian, or Anti-Jewish? Why if I may be so bold as to ask a question I know the answer to... Is what he does so wrong and what any dozen or more people I can think of off the top of their head seemingly fine and not worthy of outrage?
 
2012-10-12 03:58:55 PM

randomjsa: I'm just curious.

This guy is Anti-Muslim, so when people either here or around the world act as bad or worse than him, why are they not Anti-Christian, or Anti-Jewish? Why if I may be so bold as to ask a question I know the answer to... Is what he does so wrong and what any dozen or more people I can think of off the top of their head seemingly fine and not worthy of outrage?


- he promotes hate of an entire, massive group based on the actions of a tiny percentage of that group
- he takes actions that, while being protected speech, gets others killed (note that he does not put himself in harm's way ... just others)
- he is an attention whore of the highest order

Yes, extremist on the other side of the fence can be called anti-christian.
 
2012-10-12 03:59:18 PM

here to help: PsiChick: sex0r: Doc_Gerbil: Them canucks can let in whoever the hell they want.
I hope he keeps after it though, I am farking sick of seeing him in Dearborn.

So can the U.S., which is why anyone pro-illegal immigration should go die in a fire.

...There are people who are pro-illegal immigration? I was under the impression people just advocated being reasonably fair when some poor shmuck either tries to escape a third-world hellhole or is dragged along as a small child.

It's like people who call Pro-Choice folks Pro-Abortion. Aside from probably a few really twisted f*cks NOBODY is "Pro"-Abortion. But playing with words gets douchebags more votes so spin spin spin.


Nail, head, etc.
 
2012-10-12 04:05:11 PM

randomjsa: I'm just curious.

This guy is Anti-Muslim, so when people either here or around the world act as bad or worse than him, why are they not Anti-Christian, or Anti-Jewish? Why if I may be so bold as to ask a question I know the answer to... Is what he does so wrong and what any dozen or more people I can think of off the top of their head seemingly fine and not worthy of outrage?


You've never heard of this little thing called anti-Semitism? Really? It was big in Germany once. I hear the term is still in use, actually. You know. Like when ignorant people hate on Jewish people for being Jewish and sane people call them out on it.

/I'm not exactly sure of your point, because your English is god-awful, but whatever it is, I'm sure it's stupid.
 
2012-10-12 04:44:04 PM

Farking Canuck: here to help: Handsome B. Wonderful: What the hell are you talking about?

I'm saying if he keeps up the heavy handed bullsh*t he'll get voted out. I don't think I was being cryptic with that statement.

Huh ... I was under the impression that Harper has done pretty well during these worldwide tough times. I'm not a fan of his but I really haven't heard of any real rage against the Conservative party in years.

Add to this the implosion of the Liberals and the fact that the NDP, Green or any of the other parties are not really candidates to ever get elected into office, it seems to me Harper's party is in pretty good shape.

Sure there are a few years to go. The Liberals are rebuilding and could gain momentum. And, of course, Harper and Co. could make some big mistakes and change everything. But if there was an election tomorrow I think it would be a cake walk for Harper.

/trying to be completely non-partisan there ... because I don't really love or hate any of them. (my perfect party would take policies from each of the current parties)


We did need him for the economic meltdown and as I said earlier I actually did want him in power but with a minority government. The Liberals would have screwed it up with their arrogance and bumbling and the NDP have absolutely no fiscal policy.

The problem is with a majority he can slip in all the really nasty stuff like the oppressive crime bill, wipe out environmental protections, sell off our natural resources to foreign interests (why the hell he thinks that's a good idea is beyond me... it makes more economic sense to let Canadian firms handle that stuff), fill the CRTC with representatives from the media mega moguls, purchase overprice and outdated military hardware from the US and elsewhere, let the fringe members of his party stick their foot in the door on the abortion debate, push agendas that harm minorities and the poor, blah blah blah...

This is all sh*t that's currently going on. He is extremely good at making the public not notice these things and yes he did help prevent the worst of the worst from happening when the world economy tanked. However the biggest reason we did so well is because of banking regulations that were in place well before he took office and the strength of Canadian banks in general. He probably wants to scrap all that stuff too but knows the economy is the main thing keeping his party in the public's favor.

Anyway... enough ranting. I just wish we could have a party or multiple parties who embody Canadian values and compassion, maintain our global reputation AND keep a close eye on the purse strings. Sadly that seems to be becoming less and less likely.
 
2012-10-12 04:58:20 PM
If his crusade is to end that heresy known as Canadian bacon, count me in.

Anything else, not so much.
 
2012-10-12 05:00:48 PM

chuckufarlie: If his crusade is to end that heresy known as Canadian bacon, count me in.

Anything else, not so much.


You know, up here we just call it "low-quality ham."
 
2012-10-12 05:18:16 PM

Farking Canuck: here to help: Handsome B. Wonderful: What the hell are you talking about?

I'm saying if he keeps up the heavy handed bullsh*t he'll get voted out. I don't think I was being cryptic with that statement.

Huh ... I was under the impression that Harper has done pretty well during these worldwide tough times. I'm not a fan of his but I really haven't heard of any real rage against the Conservative party in years.

Add to this the implosion of the Liberals and the fact that the NDP, Green or any of the other parties are not really candidates to ever get elected into office, it seems to me Harper's party is in pretty good shape.

Sure there are a few years to go. The Liberals are rebuilding and could gain momentum. And, of course, Harper and Co. could make some big mistakes and change everything. But if there was an election tomorrow I think it would be a cake walk for Harper.

/trying to be completely non-partisan there ... because I don't really love or hate any of them. (my perfect party would take policies from each of the current parties)


You need to listen more closely, there is massive hate against the federal Conservatives country wide save for Alberta.
 
2012-10-12 05:21:12 PM
Keep your religious-right hatred in the United States.
 
2012-10-12 05:21:35 PM

atomicmask: [Canada] is to [sic] busy letting in the violent sociopaths that BELONG to said religion


Citation needed. Difficulty: actual violent sociopaths, not just Scary Mooselimbs.
 
2012-10-12 05:31:14 PM

correct horse battery staple: For those of you who are curious, here's the 2012 report of all of the information that the Canada Border Services Agency has access to and what it's allowed to do with it.


Wow, that page was obviously written to sound like they're saying a lot, but really not saying anything. Basically all it says is "we look at a lot of computers systems", but not at all clear what that means to the average person.
 
2012-10-12 05:37:01 PM

Farking Canuck: superfudge73: I was denied entry into Canada because they found some loose assault rifle rounds under the seat of my truck. Then they turned the truck inside out looking for the rifle and they couldn't find it so they sent me back to the US border station with a letter that said "Permission to Leave Canada". They also got pissed when I demanded my rounds back, which they gave me in a border patrol evidence bag. I hate you Canada, go die in a fire.

Ammunition has to be transported in a secure container separate from the weapon (which also needs to be secured).


I think the issue was that it wasn't declared. Secondly the type of ammo may have been outright prohibited.
 
2012-10-12 05:43:47 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Citation needed. Difficulty: actual violent sociopaths, not just Scary Mooselimbs.


The Toronto 18

Although they were terrorists in a sort of bumbling Bob and Doug McKenzie way, eh.
Then there were the Sikhs who blew up an Air India plane in the 80's.
 
2012-10-12 05:45:30 PM

I_C_Weener: I am constantly amazed that people have not seen the greatest John Candy movie ever made.
 
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That's because it was a Michael Moore movie.


//probably his best too
 
2012-10-12 06:11:55 PM
Well, this settles it. fark the U.S.A. I'm moving to Canada.
 
2012-10-12 06:12:35 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Difficulty: actual violent sociopaths, not just Scary Mooselimbs.


Actually a problem here.

blogs.discovery.com

WHAT ARE YOU PLOTTING, EH?!
 
2012-10-12 06:17:10 PM

randomjsa: I'm just curious.

This guy is Anti-Muslim, so when people either here or around the world act as bad or worse than him, why are they not Anti-Christian, or Anti-Jewish? Why if I may be so bold as to ask a question I know the answer to... Is what he does so wrong and what any dozen or more people I can think of off the top of their head seemingly fine and not worthy of outrage?


The equation is much different. Crazy people are factored in. They riot over any perceived slight. Someone like Terry thousands of miles from them talks hard and stokes fires others have to put out and some end up losing their lives in the process. That includes Canadian and US troops.
 
2012-10-12 06:38:54 PM

here to help: Anyway... enough ranting. I just wish we could have a party or multiple parties who embody Canadian values and compassion, maintain our global reputation AND keep a close eye on the purse strings. Sadly that seems to be becoming less and less likely.


I think we are both looking for the same party.

I wasn't commenting on who should or shouldn't be there ... just whether or not there is anyone who could beat the Conservatives federally in an election.
 
2012-10-12 06:47:52 PM

Burke Turkey: You need to listen more closely, there is massive hate against the federal Conservatives country wide save for Alberta.


I am in the quite (small 'l') liberal GTA and I don't hear anyone talking about federal politics. And, in that game, no news is very, very good news for the incumbents.
 
2012-10-12 06:49:09 PM

luthia: Glenford: plushpuppy: we don't have freedom of speech in Canada or freedom of the press

Ahem.

FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS.
2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:

(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.

God all you people do is yell about rights and freedoms, give it a rest.

I had the good fortune to see some of Mits nomination or whatever while I was in the Orlando airport. I had just gotten off a 3 month hitch at sea, and was wanting for home. I was looking at everyone glued to the televisions, some nodding and some shaking their heads.

All I could think was, even Harper wouldn't be caught dead saying things like this on national television. He would be laughed out of the country.


Section 1 of the Charter, the so-called limitations clause, establishes that the guarantee of freedom of expression and other rights under the Charter are not absolute and can be limited under certain situations:

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society. (emphasis added)

This section is double-edged. First it implies that a limitation on freedom of speech prescribed in law can be permitted, if it can be justified as being a reasonable limit in a free and democratic society. Conversely, it implies that a restriction can be invalidated, if it cannot be shown to be a reasonable limit in a free and democratic society
Canada has had a string of high-profile court cases in which writers and publishers have been prosecuted for their writings, in both magazines and web postings.

/We do have freedom of the press but it doesn't work the same way as the USA. One cannot write hate literature and we have had publication bans in newspapers(last one I remember was the Bernardo trial).
 
2012-10-12 07:34:14 PM

here to help: I'm sure The Sun sympathized with this d-bag. Canada is swinging hard right and not the friendly Canucker kind of right... the ultra derpy hateful kind.


That's one of the unfortunate side effects of being America Jr., eventually we get all the old hand-me-downs.

Anyway, fark Terry Jones and his retarded shiat... and fark hearing anything more about him ever again.
 
2012-10-12 07:44:29 PM

fonebone77: indarwinsshadow: ///That's Newfoundland. I agree. Not cool, but again, it's Newfoundland. They live by their own rules. Indigenous tribes? You mean like First Nations? Um, we treat them a hell of a lot better than you treat your "natives". It's not an area you want to pick a fight about....And Quebec. No one knows. The current theory is they had a meeting and decided on frontal lobotomies for everyone. It's just a guess at this point though.

Ill take that fight. How exactly do we treat our "natives" here? Keep in mind that we a 170 odd years removed from the trail of tears. Most tribes still get everything promised to them in their treaties. That includes the tribes that broke the treaty and sided with the South in the Civil War. Are some of the reservations pits? Yup. That is hardly the fault of the rest of America. Things have actually improved quite a bit for most tribes in the last 20 years as well. Casino, and natural resources money has been on the increase considerably.

Having said that. Let Terry Jones fly into your country on a private jet and then accidentally shoot him down or something. Our faux outrage will be shortlived.


Oh, don't be so sure of all that. Here in oklahoma, we are still trying to break treaties, over water concerns, tobacco issues, what they can do with land that is suppose to be native land. Hell, the fact that native services to abused women are not even close to funded made national news when the anti-abuse for women law became a partisain issue. Imminate domain still can and does take land away from natives, except instead of kicking out grandma, they reclaim native business for the porpose of "improving" the area. So, not really on the "we don't do that anymore"
 
2012-10-12 07:50:42 PM

Diogenes: "This is a real blow to freedom of speech," said Jones...

I forget where the Constitution says the Canadians are bound by that.


I forget where "crossing the border" became the same as "speech"

although Americans do have some interesting definitions of speech, ie campaign donations.
 
2012-10-12 07:54:23 PM
You know, I'm surprised that nobody appears to have brought this up yet (that I spotted, anyway.) Terry Jones wasn't turned away over free speech issues. He has a recent conviction (meaning more recently than seven years, although I can't remember which side of the border cares about that, maybe both.) That's all it takes. One conviction. This is also true of US Customs. A Canadian with a conviction will be turned back.

/ I commuted to a US college campus for a year and a half a while back. That campus went out of their way to make sure students were well warned not to mess around with drugs or booze, as the campus would not refund tuition to fark-ups who get themselves banned from crossing over possession, DUI, or smuggling.
 
2012-10-12 08:02:57 PM
If there is a loving and benevolent God, can Terry Jones DIAF?
 
2012-10-12 08:03:05 PM
Aaaawwww, the poor preacher of hate and evil can't go to another country and preach his horseshiat. Let me play the world's smallest violin.
 
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