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2012-10-12 02:22:57 PM
The lesson from all this is that only Republicans are allowed to smile, laugh, and interrupt during debates. Democrats must be silent and just bend over. Anything more is cheating.
 
2012-10-12 02:23:02 PM
Weekly Standard's Mark Hemingway
Washington Examiner's Philip Klein
BuzzFeed's Ben Smith
Former Eric Cantor staffer Brad Dayspring
Radio host Neal Boortz
Townhall.com's Guy Benson
MSNBC's S.E. Cupp
Washington Examiner's Paul Bedard
Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer
Republican strategist Ron Bonjean
Washington Times' Emily Miller
Washington Post's Jennifer Rubin


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2012-10-12 02:23:24 PM
I gotta give Ryan props for playing the debate drinking game on live tv.

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2012-10-12 02:23:50 PM

PreMortem: And by Twitter, subby means GOP water carriers.


"Movie critic Roger Ebert: "Joe! Stop smiling and laughing!""

I never knew...
 
2012-10-12 02:23:56 PM

roadmarks: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Weaver95: man, the Republicans are PISSED about Biden openly laughing at Ryan's lies.

He didn't lie!

If you don't think that the whole government death panel bullshiat Ryan spewed was a lie, please submit yourself to one somewhere because you are too stupid to live.


Would that be irony?

"Do you believe in death panels?"

"Yup, socialism watermelon taxes taxes taxes."

"Congratulations! You qualify. How about a hot shower?"
 
2012-10-12 02:24:31 PM

fruitloop: I gotta give Ryan props for playing the debate drinking game on live tv.

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I noticed the same thing. Ryan had about five glasses under the table.
 
2012-10-12 02:26:17 PM

roadmarks: Danger Mouse:

I'm gathering you saw very little of the Presidnetial debate...and even less of the VP debate.

Biden is a dick. He really didn't come across as a respectful thoughtful debater. I give Ryan props forkeeping his composure, not telling joe to STFU.


And I am soooo sure that you thought Romney was a dick too. Fact is, someone needed to tell Ryan to STFU and quit lying. Too bad the Pres didn't have the balls to do it to Romney with all his lies as well.


Riiiiiight.

Joe claims he's got all the answers, and they're doing everyting right. Sounds good, but what sinks Joe is the reality that surrounds him; the ecomomic failures of his administration.

So for all his interruprtions, laughing and dick licking smirks, Biden's and his boss are failures.Hoenslty, you'd think by listening to him the economy is roaring. Ummmm. I heard this 4 years ago.

I know, I know... you really want to beat up on the GOP because Obama shiat his pants on stage. I get it. But Joe went overbaord with the dick factor, and let's not forget who's been driving this bus for the past 4 years.
 
2012-10-12 02:27:11 PM

lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.


You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link
 
2012-10-12 02:27:38 PM

soy_bomb: fruitloop: I gotta give Ryan props for playing the debate drinking game on live tv.

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I noticed the same thing. Ryan had about five glasses under the table.


GOTTA HYDRATE

CARBS ARE THE ENEMY
 
2012-10-12 02:27:40 PM

Danger Mouse: Biden is a dick.


BWAHAHAHAHA! No.
 
2012-10-12 02:27:40 PM

Danger Mouse: the ecomomic failures of his administration.


Such as?
 
2012-10-12 02:28:31 PM
Ryan = ballchinian
Biden = brass knuckle clad uppercut
 
2012-10-12 02:29:01 PM

badaboom: Like the one where he said he voted against the war.


I thought he said he didn't vote to NOT pay for them.
 
2012-10-12 02:29:36 PM
Ah, one of the many threads today where Republican water carriers show what pant-shiatting pussies they really are when their little golden boy gets curb-stomped by an old man.

The butt-hurt is glorious.
 
2012-10-12 02:29:50 PM
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2012-10-12 02:30:15 PM

badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link


I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.
 
2012-10-12 02:30:33 PM

skykid: Not as pathetic as the Atlas Shrugged II ads that are now on the sidebar.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-10-12 02:31:00 PM

mediaho: Danger Mouse: the ecomomic failures of his administration.

Such as?


He's very glad you asked that question. Now listen as he tells you about a family that lost their kid in a car wreck...
 
2012-10-12 02:32:05 PM

mediaho: Danger Mouse: the ecomomic failures of his administration.

Such as?


Other than the ones the Republicans stonewalled in their pathetic attempt to keep the President from accomplishing anything. There must be some, right Danger Mouse?
 
2012-10-12 02:33:18 PM
I'm going to keep laughing myself.

At the same group of people who insist that the moderator who let the candidates talk to each other and debate was terrible but the moderator that was obviously on Biden's side was great.

By the way, Biden did you no favors. The only people who liked what they saw last night were the people who are in a panic as the election turns against Obama.

Oh and the liar was Biden, particularly on Benghazi. First we had the moderator open the debate with an Obama administration talking point that nobody even believes except the far left then we had Biden running excuse number... I lost count... on "Why This Isn't Obama's Fault!"
 
2012-10-12 02:33:52 PM

Danger Mouse: roadmarks: Danger Mouse:

I'm gathering you saw very little of the Presidnetial debate...and even less of the VP debate.

Biden is a dick. He really didn't come across as a respectful thoughtful debater. I give Ryan props forkeeping his composure, not telling joe to STFU.


And I am soooo sure that you thought Romney was a dick too. Fact is, someone needed to tell Ryan to STFU and quit lying. Too bad the Pres didn't have the balls to do it to Romney with all his lies as well.

Riiiiiight.

Joe claims he's got all the answers, and they're doing everyting right. Sounds good, but what sinks Joe is the reality that surrounds him; the ecomomic failures of his administration.

So for all his interruprtions, laughing and dick licking smirks, Biden's and his boss are failures.Hoenslty, you'd think by listening to him the economy is roaring. Ummmm. I heard this 4 years ago.

I know, I know... you really want to beat up on the GOP because Obama shiat his pants on stage. I get it. But Joe went overbaord with the dick factor, and let's not forget who's been driving this bus for the past 4 years.


So..... again, Biden behaves like Romney, and you complained about Romney when.......????

Oh, that's right. It doesn't matter to you what the facts are any more than it does to the rest of your team.

Difference between you and me is that I can say that Obama had a really bad debate performance. Too bad you can't admit that your guys ever do anything wrong. Like Romney smirking, interrupting and laughing - that is, if it was particularly wrong. But let me guess again and you'll say that IOKIYAR.
 
2012-10-12 02:33:55 PM
LOL @ including Jennifer Rubin. She's the Armond White of political journalism basement blogging.
 
2012-10-12 02:34:38 PM

Weaver95: man, the Republicans are PISSED about Biden openly laughing at Ryan's lies.


Hell, Obama smiled at some of the things McCain said in 2008! How is this farking news now?!

/IOKIYAR
 
2012-10-12 02:34:59 PM

randomjsa: I'm going to keep laughing myself.

At the same group of people who insist that the moderator who let the candidates talk to each other and debate was terrible but the moderator that was obviously on Biden's side was great.

By the way, Biden did you no favors. The only people who liked what they saw last night were the people who are in a panic as the election turns against Obama.

Oh and the liar was Biden, particularly on Benghazi. First we had the moderator open the debate with an Obama administration talking point that nobody even believes except the far left then we had Biden running excuse number... I lost count... on "Why This Isn't Obama's Fault!"


Laughing... right. Keep telling yourself that, and much like all of the other lies you dumb shiats repeat, it will eventually become true in your own head.
 
2012-10-12 02:35:56 PM

kronicfeld: Remember when liberals, moderates, Democrats, centrists, etc all openly acknowledged that Barack Obama shiat the bed in the first debate, and that Romney outperformed him? Is it any surprise to anyone that Romney's fanboys refuse follow suit today?


Not really. Evasion is a way for them to refuse to acknowledge the obvious.
 
2012-10-12 02:36:42 PM

lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.



Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again. Want some more examples?

From the AP, a known Right wing organization I know:

BIDEN: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again. And by the way, at the time we were told exactly - we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. That was the assessment. And as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view."

RYAN: "There were requests for more security."

THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at the hearing a day earlier.

Oops that was a lie Mr. Vice President.

BIDEN: "We went out and rescued General Motors."

THE FACTS: Actually, the auto bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under President George W. Bush. The Obama administration continued and expanded it.

I disagreed with Bush. But oops another lie Mr. Vice President.

BIDEN, when asked who would pay more taxes in Obama's second term: "People making a million dollars or more."

THE FACTS: Obama's proposed tax increase reaches farther down the income ladder than millionaires. He wants to roll back Bush-era tax cuts for individuals making more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000.

Oops.

BIDEN: "What we did is, we saved $716 billion and put it back, applied it to Medicare."

THE FACTS: Contrary to Biden's assertion, not all the money cut from Medicare is going back into the program in some other way. The administration is cutting $716 billion over 10 years in Medicare payments to providers and using some of the money to improve benefits under the program. But most of the money is being used to expand health care coverage outside of Medicare.

Oopsy.

BIDEN: "Romney said 'No, let Detroit go bankrupt.'"

THE FACTS: GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney has gotten endless grief through the campaign for the headline put on a November 2008 opinion essay he wrote for The New York Times. But his point was never that he wanted the auto industry to go down the tubes.

Romney opposed using government money to bail out Chrysler and General Motors, instead favoring privately financed bankruptcy restructuring. His prescription seemed improbable. Automakers were hemorrhaging cash and the banking system was in crisis, so private money wasn't available. Without the government money, it's likely both companies would have gone out of business. Romney did propose government-guaranteed private loans for both companies after bankruptcy.

Shall we keep going?
 
2012-10-12 02:36:56 PM
I don't really see the problem with this. Romney was smirking occassionally in the presidential debate. It has probably happened in the past debates as well. As long as they aren't throwing a laughing fit and interrupting their opponenent, I'm cool with it.
 
2012-10-12 02:37:17 PM

12349876: skykid: Not as pathetic as the Atlas Shrugged II ads that are now on the sidebar.

I saw a TV ad that had text "Will this film influence the election" "You Decide"

And they complain about the Seal Team Six movie.


Didn't the first one flop?

Why even bother making a second one?
 
2012-10-12 02:38:02 PM
From Twitter, as of right now:

Greg Erkins @gerkie

If Joe Biden was right and the security issue unknown in Libya, why is there a Secretary Clinton? Fire her! #VPDebate #VPdebate #nbcpolitics

BreitTwit @BreitTwit1

The most damaging thing Joe Biden did last night was remind people how sick they are of @BarackObama and his arrogant admin. #tcot #VPDebate

Connie Riggs @conniejeanriggs

@PaulRyanVP Wins Close #VPDebate -ReviewJournal http://bit.ly/TEopK0 #tcot #tlot #lnyhbt #sayfie #gop2012

brandy thomas @brandyann04

Math is for liberals and terrorists #VPDEBATE

/Had to wade through RTs
 
2012-10-12 02:38:32 PM

badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.


Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again and admit Paul Ryan also lied over and over again.


Nah, I was only claiming Paul Ryan is a liar. Let's stick with our agreement here, Paul Ryan is a liar. That guy's a douche, amirite?
 
2012-10-12 02:39:04 PM

12349876: skykid: Not as pathetic as the Atlas Shrugged II ads that are now on the sidebar.

I saw a TV ad that had text "Will this film influence the election" "You Decide".


Considering the first film drew the same amount of people that saw "An American Carol" I'm going to say no.
 
2012-10-12 02:39:42 PM

badaboom: BIDEN: "Romney said 'No, let Detroit go bankrupt.'"

THE FACTS: GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney has gotten endless grief through the campaign for the headline put on a November 2008 opinion essay he wrote for The New York Times. But his point was never that he wanted the auto industry to go down the tubes.


Are you farking kidding me? headline aside, the article said exactly that -- let the industry die and something better will emerge from the ashes like a glorious phoenix. Sure a lot of lives will be devastated in the meantime but who farking cares?
 
2012-10-12 02:39:54 PM
He deserved to be mocked and laughed at...

Biden actually gained a few points with me for that. It's about time someone started calling this shameless Gomer Pyle looking liar on his bullshiat.

5 trillion in tax cuts and a doubling of the defense budgets is "revenue neutral" because they're going to cut so loopholes "for the wealthy"? C'mon...
 
2012-10-12 02:40:46 PM

badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.


Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again. Want some more examples?

From the AP, a known Right wing organization I know:

BIDEN: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again. And by the way, at the time we were told exactly - we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. That was the assessment. And as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view."

RYAN: "There were requests for more security."

THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at the hearing a day earlier.

Oops that was a lie Mr. Vice President.

BIDEN: "We went out and rescued General Motors."

THE FACTS: Actually, the auto bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under President George W. Bush. The Obama administration continued and expanded it.

I disagreed with Bush. But oops another lie Mr. Vice President.

BIDEN, when asked who would pay more taxes in Obama's second term: "People making a million dollars or more."

THE FACTS: Obama's proposed tax increase reaches farther down the income ladder than milliona ...


You missed a few douchebox:

RYAN: "Look at just the $90 billion in stimulus the vice president was in charge of overseeing - this $90 billion in green pork to campaign contributors and special interest groups."

THE FACTS: Dismissing an entire package of energy stimulus grants and loans as "green pork" ignores the help that was given to people to make their homes more energy efficient, grants to public entities constructing high speed rail lines and tax credits to manufacturers to install equipment fostering cleaner energy.

To be sure, there were notable failed investments, such as $528 million to the politically connected and now-bankrupt solar power company Solyndra. But Ryan's claim made it sound like every penny went down the drain.

More broadly, economists are nearly universal in saying President Barack Obama's $800 billion-plus stimulus passed in early 2009 helped create both public-sector and private-sector jobs, even if they fell short of what sponsors had hoped. Douglas Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, estimated the stimulus saved or created more than 3 million jobs.

___ RYAN: "And then they put this new Obamacare board in charge of cutting Medicare each and every year in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors. This board, by the way, it's 15 people, the president's supposed to appoint them next year. And not one of them even has to have medical training."

THE FACTS: Ryan is referring to the Independent Payment Advisory Board, created under Obama's health care overhaul law. It has the power to force cuts in Medicare payments to service providers if costs rise above certain levels and Congress fails to act. But it doesn't look like the board will be cutting Medicare "each and every year," as Ryan asserts. Medicare costs are currently rising modestly and the government's own experts project the board's intervention will not be needed until 2018 or 2019 at the earliest - after Obama leaves office if re-elected to a second term.

RYAN: "We cannot allow Iran to gain a nuclear weapons capability. Now, let's take a look at where we've gone - come from. When Barack Obama was elected, they had enough fissile material - nuclear material - to make one bomb. Now they have enough for five. They're racing toward a nuclear weapon. They're four years closer toward a nuclear weapons capability."

THE FACTS: Ryan's claim is misleading. Iran isn't believed to have produced any of the highly enriched uranium needed to produce even one nuclear weapon, let alone five. That point isn't even disputed by Israel, whose Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored the world at the United Nations last month to create a "red line" at enrichment above 20 percent. Iran would have to enrich uranium at much higher levels to produce a weapon. There is intelligence suggesting that Iran has worked on weapon designs, but not that it has developed a delivery system for any potential nuclear warhead.

RYAN: "What troubles me more is how this administration has handled all of these issues. Look at what they're doing through Obamacare with respect to assaulting the religious liberties of this country. They're infringing upon our first freedom, the freedom of religion, by infringing on Catholic charities, Catholic churches, Catholic hospitals."

THE FACTS: The requirement under the health care law that most employers cover birth control free of charge to female employees does not apply to churches, houses of worship or other institutions directly involved in propagating a religious faith. It does apply to church-affiliated institutions such as hospitals and charities that serve the general public.

RYAN: "We should have spoken out right away when the green revolution was up and starting, when the mullahs in Iran were attacking their people. We should not have called Bashar Assad a reformer when he was turning his Russian-provided guns on his own people."

THE FACTS: Neither Obama nor anyone else in his administration ever considered the Syrian leader a "reformer." The oft-repeated charge stems from an interview Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton gave in March 2011 noting that "many of the members of Congress of both parties who have gone to Syria in recent months have said they believe he's a reformer." She did not endorse that view. The comment was widely perceived to be a knock at senators, such as John Kerry of Massachusetts, who maintained cordial relations with Assad in the months leading up to his crackdown on protesters.

RYAN: "This one tax would actually tax about 53 percent of small-business income."

BIDEN: "Ninety-seven percent of the small businesses in America pay less - make less than $250,000."

THE FACTS: Both are correct, but incomplete, when sizing up the effect on small business of raising taxes for individuals making more than $200,000 and married couples making more than $250,000, as Obama wants to do. Republicans say that would hit small-business owners who report business income on their individual income tax; Democrats say the overwhelming majority of small businesses would not be affected.

According to a 2010 report by the Joint Committee on Taxation, the official scorekeeper for Congress, about 3 percent of people who report business income would face a tax increase under Obama's plan. That support's Biden's point.

The same report says those business owners account for about half of all business income. That supports Ryan.

RYAN: Notes that there have been four rounds of U.N. sanctions on Iran to deter its nuclear program, three during the Bush administration and one under Obama. "And the only reason we got it is because Russia watered it down and prevented the sanctions from hitting the central bank. Mitt Romney proposed these sanctions in 2007. In Congress, I've been fighting for these sanctions since 2009. The administration was blocking us every step of the way." He also noted the administration has granted 20 waivers to the sanctions.

THE FACTS: The argument that the administration was watering down or delaying sanctions is misleading. For sanctions to work, they need maximum global agreement and cooperation. Russia watered down U.N. sanctions not only under Obama but also under Bush. And it's highly unlikely that a Romney administration, particularly led by a candidate who says Russia is the biggest geostrategic threat to the U.S., would be able to get Russia completely on board with what the U.S. wants - either on Iran or Syria.

The more absolute U.S. sanctions that Ryan and others have pushed in Congress would have punished U.S. allies, including most countries in Europe as well as Japan and South Korea, along with good friends like India and Singapore - without the exemptions that were put in place.

The administration has indeed granted 20 waivers, to countries that made significant reductions in Iranian oil imports. And the sanctions are pinching; Iran has been convulsed over the past week with protests over the collapse of its currency, which most people say is a direct result of the sanctions that the U.S. and others have imposed.



HERPA DERPA DOO
 
2012-10-12 02:41:10 PM

randomjsa: I'm going to keep laughing myself.

At the same group of people who insist that the moderator who let the candidates talk to each other and debate was terrible but the moderator that was obviously on Biden's side was great.

By the way, Biden did you no favors. The only people who liked what they saw last night were the people who are in a panic as the election turns against Obama.

Oh and the liar was Biden, particularly on Benghazi. First we had the moderator open the debate with an Obama administration talking point that nobody even believes except the far left then we had Biden running excuse number... I lost count... on "Why This Isn't Obama's Fault!"


First, how was the dog that was sick yesterday? Good I hope (seriously).

Second, I've never commented on either moderator. Your boy had his ass handed to him and that would have happened regardless of whatever moderator you would have had. Biden brought his A game and Ryan was struggling the whole debate.
 
2012-10-12 02:41:40 PM

keylock71: He deserved to be mocked and laughed at...

Biden actually gained a few points with me for that. It's about time someone started calling this shameless Gomer Pyle looking liar on his bullshiat.

5 trillion in tax cuts and a doubling of the defense budgets is "revenue neutral" because they're going to cut so loopholes "for the wealthy"? C'mon...


Sweet mother of God this!

I can't even take this election seriously anymore if Romney and Ryan can get away with bullcrap like that.

It's about damn time someone calls them out on it, hopefully Obama does the same next week.
 
2012-10-12 02:42:04 PM

lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.


Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again and admit Paul Ryan also lied over and over again.

Nah, I was only claiming Paul Ryan is a liar. Let's stick with our agreement here, Paul Ryan is a liar. That guy's a douche, amirite?


Keep farking that chicken and building those strawmen. Never saw an incumbent run on the Liar Liar pants on fire campaign theme. Oh wait, I think I did in elementary school once. Usually sitting Presidents run on their record. If Liar Liar is all you got you guys are in way more trouble than you think.
 
2012-10-12 02:42:28 PM

CPennypacker: You missed a few douchebox:


Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. He agreed Paul Ryan was a liar. Sure he dropped a giant turd on that gift horse but still, that was an amazing concession for him to make.
 
2012-10-12 02:43:17 PM

badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.


Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again and admit Paul Ryan also lied over and over again.

Nah, I was only claiming Paul Ryan is a liar. Let's stick with our agreement here, Paul Ryan is a liar. That guy's a douche, amirite?

Keep farking that chicken and building those strawmen. Never saw an incumbent run on the Liar Liar pants on fire campaign theme. Oh wait, I think I did in elementary school once. Usually sitting Presidents run on their record. If Liar Liar is all you got you guys are in way more trouble than you think.


I think the message is: "We're on the right track, now why the fark would we want the GOP to have the reigns on the economy again and probably fark it up again for us?"
 
2012-10-12 02:43:27 PM

randomjsa: I'm going to keep laughing myself.

At the same group of people who insist that the moderator who let the candidates talk to each other and debate was terrible but the moderator that was obviously on Biden's side was great.


Wow, did you eat the pot-laced cookies before you posted this? The fact of the matter is (and Biden called him out on this as well) is that while Ryan just evaded and dodged direct answers, Biden answered.

By the way, Biden did you no favors. The only people who liked what they saw last night were the people who are in a panic as the election turns against Obama.

Oh and the liar was Biden, particularly on Benghazi. First we had the moderator open the debate with an Obama administration talking point that nobody even believes except the far left then we had Biden running excuse number... I lost count... on "Why This Isn't Obama's Fault!"


So you didn't see the CNN graphs when Biden responded now did you?
 
2012-10-12 02:45:04 PM

CPennypacker: You missed a few douchebox:


No point. When someone is arguing that Romney saying Detroit should go bankrupt is false because he actually argued for it to go bankrupt, they're not worth the farking effort.
 
2012-10-12 02:45:38 PM

badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.


Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again and admit Paul Ryan also lied over and over again.

Nah, I was only claiming Paul Ryan is a liar. Let's stick with our agreement here, Paul Ryan is a liar. That guy's a douche, amirite?

Keep farking that chicken and building those strawmen. Never saw an incumbent run on the Liar Liar pants on fire campaign theme. Oh wait, I think I did in elementary school once. Usually sitting Presidents run on their record. If Liar Liar is all you got you guys are in way more trouble than you think.



Three posts in a row now, confirming you agree Paul Ryan is a liar. Dude, we get it, you think he's a liar. You don't need to hammer it home so many times.

lennavan: Paul Ryan is a liar.
badaboom: I agree. Also, Biden lied once.
lennavan: Hey, we agree, Ryan is a liar!
badaboom: Agreed. But Biden lied a bunch of times!
lennavan: I get it, you think Paul Ryan is a liar. Dude, we agree.
badaboom: Sure he's a liar but I don't think calling Paul Ryan is a winning strategy.

Hey, I get you want to talk about other things. Now while you agree Paul Ryan is a liar, you do not feel it is a winning strategy. Maybe you have a good point maybe not. That's tangential to my point that we agreed upon, Paul Ryan is a liar.
 
2012-10-12 02:45:42 PM
I'm enjoying the massive butthurt by the right today. So good; it's the whole "BUT HE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO HIT ME BACK~!" meme writ large.
 
2012-10-12 02:46:40 PM

roadmarks:
So..... again, Biden behaves like Romney, and you complained about Romney when.......????

Oh, that's right. It doesn't matter to you what the facts are any more than it does to the rest of your team.

Difference between you and me is that I can say that Obama had a really bad debate performance. Too bad you can't admit that your guys ever do anything wrong. Like Romney smirking, interrupting and laughing - that is, if it was particularly wrong. But let me guess again and you'll say that IOKIYAR.


The dfference is that Obama shiat his pants on stage. Ryan didn't.

Romeny was no where near the antics Biden was pulling.

Honestly if that's how you see it, I trust we wont be able to agree on anything.
 
2012-10-12 02:47:14 PM
It's a sad commentary on our country that an @sshole like Paul Ryan, aka Lyin' Ryan, aka Stonewall Paul, can tell lies for 90-minutes, but the "big story" is that the guy across from him laughed and shook his head.
 
2012-10-12 02:47:19 PM

mediaho: badaboom: BIDEN: "Romney said 'No, let Detroit go bankrupt.'"

THE FACTS: GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney has gotten endless grief through the campaign for the headline put on a November 2008 opinion essay he wrote for The New York Times. But his point was never that he wanted the auto industry to go down the tubes.

Are you farking kidding me? headline aside, the article said exactly that -- let the industry die and something better will emerge from the ashes like a glorious phoenix. Sure a lot of lives will be devastated in the meantime but who farking cares?


First, thanks for lying. Second you don't understand bankruptcy well do you? Hmm, I wonder how Chrysler is still around. Didn't they go Bankrupt? United? US Airways?
 
2012-10-12 02:48:08 PM

Danger Mouse: Romeny was no where near the antics Biden was pulling.


Romney didn't keep interrupting and talking over the moderator as he tried to steer the conversation to another topic? 

/Count me as another one enjoying the right-wing butthurt over this
 
2012-10-12 02:48:26 PM

Danger Mouse: roadmarks:
So..... again, Biden behaves like Romney, and you complained about Romney when.......????

Oh, that's right. It doesn't matter to you what the facts are any more than it does to the rest of your team.

Difference between you and me is that I can say that Obama had a really bad debate performance. Too bad you can't admit that your guys ever do anything wrong. Like Romney smirking, interrupting and laughing - that is, if it was particularly wrong. But let me guess again and you'll say that IOKIYAR.

The dfference is that Obama shiat his pants on stage. Ryan didn't.

Romeny was no where near the antics Biden was pulling.

Honestly if that's how you see it, I trust we wont be able to agree on anything.


You know, for someone who keeps saying the VP debate doesn't count you have been sticking around for quite a while.
 
2012-10-12 02:48:49 PM

CPennypacker: badaboom: lennavan: badaboom: lennavan: Paul Ryan flat out lies over and over again.
Biden laughs and smiles when he does it.

So naturally the story is "What's up with Biden?" This is why you suck, media.

You must have missed all of Biden's flat out lies

Like the one where he said he voted against the war. Too bad there is something called written history and documentation

But you guys keep farking that liar liar chicken. It is hilarious.

Link

I claim Paul Ryan lied over and over again. Your great defense is "Joe Biden also told a single lie?" I guess you admit Paul Ryan lies. I think that's the most admission I will possibly get out of you, so we'll ignore how Biden didn't really lie in your link.

I'm glad you were able to admit Paul Ryan is a liar.

Cheers.


Wow, that has to be the King of all Strawmen arguments. Ok, I hereby claim Joe Biden lied over and over again. Want some more examples?

From the AP, a known Right wing organization I know:

BIDEN: "Well, we weren't told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security again. And by the way, at the time we were told exactly - we said exactly what the intelligence community told us that they knew. That was the assessment. And as the intelligence community changed their view, we made it clear they changed their view."

RYAN: "There were requests for more security."

THE FACTS: Ryan is right, judging by testimony from Obama administration officials at the hearing a day earlier.

Oops that was a lie Mr. Vice President.

BIDEN: "We went out and rescued General Motors."

THE FACTS: Actually, the auto bailout of General Motors and Chrysler began under President George W. Bush. The Obama administration continued and expanded it.

I disagreed with Bush. But oops another lie Mr. Vice President.

BIDEN, when asked who would pay more taxes in Obama's second term: "People making a million dollars or more."

THE FACTS: Obama's proposed tax increase reaches farther down the income ladder tha ...


Quoting the ASSOCIATED PRESS is Derp? Wow, you guys are losing your minds.
 
2012-10-12 02:49:14 PM

keylock71: He deserved to be mocked and laughed at...

Biden actually gained a few points with me for that. It's about time someone started calling this shameless Gomer Pyle looking liar on his bullshiat.

5 trillion in tax cuts and a doubling of the defense budgets is "revenue neutral" because they're going to cut so loopholes "for the wealthy"? C'mon...


I'd like to add some fail points for Ryan.

1) holy shiat he was repetitive and not just for emphasis, he was repeating stuff when he couldn't think of anything else to say at several points during the debate.

2) As to "Biden was too hard on him". So what? Do Conservatives think Ryan doesn't have the skills to stick up for himself? Clearly.

3) Ryan failed so hard on Afghanistan if it would have been a boxing match it would have needed a standing 8 count. When Biden said "you want Americans to fight instead of Afghans" (paraphrase) it was an upper-cut. Nothing Romney said during the POTUS debate was even close that type of devastation.
 
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