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(Today)   Some people say that all the pinkwashing during Breast Cancer Awareness month ignores women who have no hope of being cured. Others say the entire deal is just a marketing ploy that lines the pockets of corporations. Tomato/To-MAH-to   (todayhealth.today.com) divider line 70
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2012-10-12 11:07:22 AM  
the entire deal is just a marketing ploy that lines the pockets of corporations

Pretty much
 
2012-10-12 11:08:28 AM  
People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?
 
2012-10-12 11:10:03 AM  
I will say that breast cancer is far and away the best branded of all the deadly diseases.
 
2012-10-12 11:11:08 AM  
Raising awareness. Because it feels good to be able to tell yourself that you're doing something productive. Even when you aren't.
 
2012-10-12 11:11:44 AM  

macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?


You don't think prostate cancer gets any attention? Sure, it doesn't get its own month, but I feel like it comes up pretty regularly, especially associated with sports.
 
2012-10-12 11:12:36 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Raising awareness. Because it feels good to be able to tell yourself that you're doing something productive. Even when you aren't.


Just like praying.

[prayingvswork.jpg]
 
2012-10-12 11:14:12 AM  
Safeway runs this crap all year long. Some months they make a party out of it.
 
2012-10-12 11:15:20 AM  
i55.tinypic.com 

The SGK people can go fark a toaster.



no idea what that means
 
2012-10-12 11:15:30 AM  

grinding_journalist: macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?

You don't think prostate cancer gets any attention? Sure, it doesn't get its own month, but I feel like it comes up pretty regularly, especially associated with sports.


The NFL doesn't rebrand everything in it's catalog a special color for prostate cancer month. It's a fairly obvious attempt to gain female viewers.
 
2012-10-12 11:15:38 AM  

macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?


because BREASTS
 
2012-10-12 11:15:47 AM  

grinding_journalist: macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?

You don't think prostate cancer gets any attention? Sure, it doesn't get its own month, but I feel like it comes up pretty regularly, especially associated with sports.


Kilted to Kick Cancer and PCAA would like you to know that boy bits get September, and your color is blue. :)
 
2012-10-12 11:16:30 AM  

macdaddy357: Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?


It's all about the boobies.

/Now excuse me while I go collect pink lids from Dannon yogurts.
 
2012-10-12 11:16:41 AM  
And the American Cancer Society is basically a scam in the first place, even before the Awareness movement was heavily co-opted by Monsanto, two of whose products are believed (by actual scientists) to be contributors to most of the breast cancer in the US.

Charity is a tricky thing.
 
2012-10-12 11:16:43 AM  
Raising awareness should not equate to throwing money at a problem. I mean besides age/genetics there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).
 
2012-10-12 11:17:08 AM  
Yeah if half money used to paint things pink and market them was used for cancer research, we may just end up with a cure.
 
2012-10-12 11:20:18 AM  

DirkTheDaring: The SGK people can go fark a toaster.



no idea what that means


How else do you think you get buttered toast?

/ oh god im so sorry
 
2012-10-12 11:20:42 AM  

LegacyDL: there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).


t1.gstatic.com
 
2012-10-12 11:21:42 AM  
If there were a cure for cancer ready to go right now there'd be people descretely trying to stop it from coming out . This is the woirld we live in
 
2012-10-12 11:24:04 AM  
We had this discussion begun yesterday in this thread. I'll just use the repeat to link to this web site that does a good job of opening the books on charities.
 
2012-10-12 11:25:24 AM  
one fired egg is better than none.
 
2012-10-12 11:25:29 AM  
Marketing ploy hands down and it demeans the women who suffer
 
2012-10-12 11:25:43 AM  

rooftop235: Yeah if half money used to paint things pink and market them was used for cancer research, we may just end up with a cure.


This. There are airlines painting entire jets with pink ribbons and shiat. It costs a lot of money to do that, and that money would be way better spent donating to a research university or Planned Parenthood.
 
2012-10-12 11:26:30 AM  
imageshack.us
 
2012-10-12 11:26:35 AM  
This story brought to you by the Susan G Komen "Race for the Cash"
 
2012-10-12 11:28:16 AM  
Wait. There's cancer for boobs? Why was I not made aware of this?!
 
2012-10-12 11:28:42 AM  

Trucker: This story brought to you by the Susan G Komen "Race for the Cash"


Recycled, because it's relevant:

imageshack.us
 
2012-10-12 11:29:02 AM  

abhorrent1: LegacyDL: there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).

[t1.gstatic.com image 259x194]


-Early screening
-Avoid Smoking
-Exercise

I can go on and on
 
2012-10-12 11:30:30 AM  

SuperDuper28: If there were a cure for cancer ready to go right now there'd be people descretely trying to stop it from coming out . This is the woirld we live in


5/10 The misspellings almost got me.
 
2012-10-12 11:30:51 AM  

macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?


The cancer killing the internet is pretty well known already, it's just the one cancer everyone seems to want to spread. It's earliest warning sign is the phrase "follow us on Facebook".
 
2012-10-12 11:33:13 AM  
And the pink all over the NFL is just annoying.
 
2012-10-12 11:33:27 AM  

Shadowtag: macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?

The cancer killing the internet is pretty well known already, it's just the one cancer everyone seems to want to spread. It's earliest warning sign is the phrase "follow us on Facebook".


You can't comment anywhere anymore without a Facebook account. I still haven't caved.
 
2012-10-12 11:35:06 AM  

LabGrrl: grinding_journalist: macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?

You don't think prostate cancer gets any attention? Sure, it doesn't get its own month, but I feel like it comes up pretty regularly, especially associated with sports.

Kilted to Kick Cancer and PCAA would like you to know that boy bits get September, and your color is blue. :)


We also get Movember, it's an excuse to grow a stupid moustache.
 
2012-10-12 11:35:28 AM  

RandomAxe: Monsanto, two of whose products are believed (by actual scientists) to be contributors to most of the breast cancer in the US.


It's called vertical integration.
 
2012-10-12 11:37:52 AM  

LegacyDL: abhorrent1: LegacyDL: there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).

[t1.gstatic.com image 259x194]

-Early screening
-Avoid Smoking
-Exercise

I can go on and on


-Early screening: Helps catch it early. Doesn't help you avoid it.
-Avoid Smoking: Each year, an estimated 3,400 nonsmoking adults die of lung cancer
-Exercise: Reduces you risk. Doesn't eliminate it. 

I can go on and on
 
2012-10-12 11:38:04 AM  

NannyStatePark: Shadowtag: macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?

The cancer killing the internet is pretty well known already, it's just the one cancer everyone seems to want to spread. It's earliest warning sign is the phrase "follow us on Facebook".

You can't comment anywhere anymore without a Facebook account. I still haven't caved.


Good for you, neither have I. I can't even comment on my NHL teams' website - must be logged into YouFace.

Besides, I'd rather post in FARK where all my comments are loved and respected.
 
2012-10-12 11:40:07 AM  

macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?


It's not wasted; it pays the salaries of SGK. The absolute last thing they want to do it cure breast caner--they'd be out of a job.
 
2012-10-12 11:44:31 AM  

RandomAxe: And the American Cancer Society is basically a scam in the first place, even before the Awareness movement was heavily co-opted by Monsanto, two of whose products are believed (by actual scientists) to be contributors to most of the breast cancer in the US.

Charity is a tricky thing.


Alright. I'll bite. What scientists besides Seralini and that italian idiot?
 
2012-10-12 11:45:12 AM  

abhorrent1: LegacyDL: abhorrent1: LegacyDL: there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).

[t1.gstatic.com image 259x194]

-Early screening
-Avoid Smoking
-Exercise

I can go on and on

-Early screening: Helps catch it early. Doesn't help you avoid it.
-Avoid Smoking: Each year, an estimated 3,400 nonsmoking adults die of lung cancer
-Exercise: Reduces you risk. Doesn't eliminate it. 

I can go on and on


Let's be honest, the best way to not get diagnosed with cancer is to never get checked in the first place.

/hates pinktober
//likes research
 
2012-10-12 11:46:12 AM  
I will personally inspect any tata's that need to be reviewed.

/At no cost
//with my mouth
 
2012-10-12 11:47:28 AM  

Norax: Let's be honest, the best way to not get diagnosed with cancer is to never get checked in the first place.


Agreed. But I'm at the age were I get a UFIA every year. And it's nothing like I've seen on youporn.
 
2012-10-12 11:47:41 AM  

abhorrent1: LegacyDL: abhorrent1: LegacyDL: there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).

[t1.gstatic.com image 259x194]

-Early screening
-Avoid Smoking
-Exercise

I can go on and on

-Early screening: Helps catch it early. Doesn't help you avoid it.
-Avoid Smoking: Each year, an estimated 3,400 nonsmoking adults die of lung cancer
-Exercise: Reduces you risk. Doesn't eliminate it. 

I can go on and on


Going back to my earlier point, ideally we would want a cure for cancer however seeing as how that's not available at the moment changes can be made to reduce cancer risks and these things can be done without throwing piles of money at organizations.

Oh and that link you gave stated the leading cause of lung cancer in nonsmokers according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is exposure to radon gas, which is followed by workplace environment (asbestos) and pollution. If the effort was made these things can be avoided.
 
2012-10-12 11:49:54 AM  

DemoKnite: And the pink all over the NFL is just annoying.


And a total scam...
 
2012-10-12 11:56:26 AM  
Back in the 90's before all the pinkwashing nonsense was created, one professors said that if they took all the money the breast cancer marketing machine was making at that time and applied it to any number of world problems like hunger, cholera, malaria, Guinea worm, or even some of the more treatable cancers, the world would be a a much better place now. I tend to agree with him.

Breast cancer fund marketing was a scam even back then. It's grown to ridiculous proportions now.
 
2012-10-12 11:57:14 AM  

LegacyDL: Oh and that link you gave stated the leading cause of lung cancer in nonsmokers according to the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is exposure to radon gas, which is followed by workplace environment (asbestos) and pollution. If the effort was made these things can be avoided.


I agree. My point is, sure, you can reduce your risk. There is nothing you can do to avoid it though. Unless you're willing to live in a bubble, no one can think of everything. How many people do you know that have tested their home for radon? I know zero. (I ordered a kit once, never used it). And with the reports constantly flip-flopping on what causes or reduces cancer, people eventually just start to tune it out.
 
2012-10-12 11:58:45 AM  
TL;DR

EVERYONE SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
 
2012-10-12 12:01:29 PM  

LegacyDL: abhorrent1: LegacyDL: there are plenty of ways to avoid being diagnosed with cancer (living healthy for starters).

[t1.gstatic.com image 259x194]

-Early screening
-Avoid Smoking
-Exercise

I can go on and on


Do tell! and early screening, avoiding smoking and exercise is a way to avoid being diagnosed exactly how?
 
2012-10-12 12:09:16 PM  
I believe the rate limiting step here is the number of scientists working on it, not the amount of money available for research. If you actually want to do something for breast cancer, do science.
 
2012-10-12 12:11:11 PM  

LabGrrl: grinding_journalist: macdaddy357: People are aware of breast cancer. Every dollar spent on "raising awareness" instead of research is wasted. Also, why don't other forms of cancer get any attention?

You don't think prostate cancer gets any attention? Sure, it doesn't get its own month, but I feel like it comes up pretty regularly, especially associated with sports.

Kilted to Kick Cancer and PCAA would like you to know that boy bits get September, and your color is blue. :)



I have prostate cancer which had already spread to my bones at the time of diagnosis. While I take medication and participate in clinical trials, I know that unless something is discovered right now, I am going to die.

From where I stand it doesn't feel like prostate cancer gets much attention. It recently showed up in the news, but only because of disagreements as to the efficacy of tests aimed at early detection.

While I agree that most everyone is already "aware" of different forms of cancer, cancer awareness programs generally promote the importance of screening and early detection. That's important. Had I been tested just a few months earlier I might have a completely different prognosis.

At the same time, I understand how the lady in the article feels. There are quite a few treatments and plenty of research money being spent on dealing with early state prostate cancer. There are few successful therapies and fewer clinical trial efforts aimed at curing or significantly extending the lives of people with late stage prostate cancer. Most therapies and trials are good for a few months, but many others are merely palliative.

Obviously early stage cancer gets more attention. Every cancer patient goes through early stage. Not everyone goes through later stages, due to successful treatment early on. Still, it's hard to accept the fact that, once you reach a certain point, well......
 
2012-10-12 12:11:35 PM  
Are Trans Ams more valuable if they still have the factory cans of bondo and primer still in the trunk?
 
2012-10-12 12:25:50 PM  

dabbletech: I know that unless something is discovered right now, I am going to die.


Technically, that's true for all of us.

/sorry, and good luck
 
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